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Grading the Bulls draft, the Bulls in 2014, and some other doodads (or Why I'm In Love With A Yugoslavian).

 

I am completely relieved that the Bulls did not draft Marshon Brooks. Marshon's offensive numbers are derived from volume shooting. A lot of volume shooting. All his efficiency numbers are pretty unpretty. And he has no range to speak of. Do you really want to put a perceived black hole with no range next to Derrick Rose? I don't even know if he plays defense, but I've read that he's pretty apathetic on that end of the court. A nonchalant defensive player on a Tom Thibodeau team? HAH.

 

What we need next to Derrick Rose was not in the draft, at least not in the latter half of the draft. The only type of guard that would have been a positive for out team is either a Norris Cole or Charles Jenkins type. The former as a better back up for D.Rose than C.J. Watson and a stabilizer for the second unit and the latter as a Ben Gordon/Jamal Crawford/Jason Terry lightening in a bottle, offensive type. 

 

Even with all of that, I have no problem with Butler. He actually makes a lot of sense. As it stands, our roster has no option at the 3 outside of Luol, at least not one that plays enough D to warrant time in Thibs rotation. Korver doesn't really count because we used him at the 2 much more than the 3 last season. Thats why Luol played nearly 42 minutes a game. And he can't do that again. We saw why when Lebron went nuts on us in the ECF. It also doesn't bode well for future health and we know enough about Luol's past that it should concern us some. And I believe he intends to play full minutes for England's national team. That's a whole lot of basketball. Butler is the best pick for us from this draft in the 30 spot because he will get more minutes than any other option. And his attitude/versatility on defense is what's going to get him in Thibs rotation. [Grade - A-]

 

And by the by, the Mirotic pick was genius. Absolutely loved it. We weren't going to able to commit to three more rookie contracts. Picking Mirotic gave us some financial wiggle room for the present in order to land a more immediate impact at the 2 and a tantalizing talent for the future. Everything I've read about Mirotic says that based on talent, he was a top 10 pick. Even more importantly, his skills seem to fit perfectly between D.Rose and Noah. If you want more detailed analysis, go to espn, draftexpress, or any number of other websites but basically, Mirotic has range out to 3, can handle, plays solid if not spectacular defense, and is 6'10". He's biggest negative is strength, which can be remedied relatively easily, and rebounding, which is offset by being surrounded by Luol Deng, Taj Gibson/Omer Asik, Carlos Boozer, and Joakim Noah who are all above average to elite rebounders for their position (for those who do not realize, Carlos is an elite level defensive rebounder based on advanced and standard metrics). [Grade - A]

 

Our vacancy at the two is best filled via either option A, the trade or option B, the market. Ideally, I would love to trade for OJ Mayo or sign Aaron Afflalo. However, Afflalo is a RFA (and it seems Denver is going to match any offer for him). Therefore, I believe that trading for OJ is going to be the best way to get the most out of our off guard position. He fits perfectly. He can handle some, doesn't need to penetrate for his offense, has range out to the 3, is athletic enough to be a good (not great) defender, and, quite importanlty, he's young. When we become close to shedding Boozer's albatross our starting five could quite conceivably be Rose, Mayo, Deng, Mirotic, and Noah. Rose would be ~25, Mayo ~26, Deng ~29, Mirotic ~23, and Noah ~29.  And this on top of whatever we would have on our bench like Asik and/or Gibson (more on this later). That sounds f'in good to me. Now all of this depends on what the new CBA will be and if Mirotic is as good as they say he is (i.e. draftexpress.com), but it's very, very promising. This along with that Charlotte pick finally free as a bird... I would be simply f'in overwhelmed by the possibilities. 

 

::I mentioned the 'Asik and/or Gibson' comment because well, we're going to have to trade one of them, if we want to get OJ Mayo, plus some future first rounders (however, in my scenario keeping that Charlotte pick would be very beneficial because thats probably when we're going to see it after all those lottery protections on it run out). So the trade would look something like this: Gibson or Asik, future unprotected 1st (not Charlotte's), Ronnie Brewer, and future second for OJ Mayo and whatever is needed to make the money work OR 2 future first rounders (including Charlotte's pick), Brewer, Jimmy Butler (persuade Memphis that he can be a solid backup/damage control for Rudy Gay), and a future second for OJ Mayo and whatever is needed for money purposes. Obviously that second choice is going to be a hard sell. That's why I believe it will be most likely Asik or Gibson in our future. Gibson would be more useful for the present because of his value as Boozer's defensive Mr. Hyde but Asik is better for our future because he's young and well, he's big. There's a reason why most NBA draft flops tend to be big (i.e. Olowakandi, Darko, Bowie, Oden?, etc.). NBA teams realize the value of size, the rarity of that size, and the need to take risks in order to acquire them. Asik has proven that he can anchor any defense. In essence,with Noah and Asik, we won't need to look for another player at arguably the hardest position to fill for the next 5-7 years. But then again, I'd be fine with Gibson too. Flip a coin.::

 

All in all, this has been the third happiest I've ever been with a Bulls draft (1. MJ 2. D.Rose) relative to where we were picking, the value we received from those picks, and the potential it brings for the future.

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I think the Pippen draft pretty well trumps this one, bro.

Somehow spinning Pippen and Grant out of the 8 and 10 spot? That’s an NBA HoFer and an All-Star from two middling lottery picks. Most teams would KILL for that kind of draft, regardless of position. The only reason this isn’t the best draft in the history of the Bulls is because MJ exists. I’m putting the Rose draft behind those two, for now. Win us a couple championships, and it’ll be the #2 draft on my list.

by Doshi on Jun 25, 2011 9:07 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

The Bulls need Miotec to pay dividends now!

Not four years from now when D. Wade has retired and Mirotec comes to the USA.

By giving up the #28 pick, the Bulls allowed Pat Riley to strengthen Miami’s area of weakness – the point guard position.

The Bulls were strong at Center and Point guard (Miami’s weakest positions) and still didn’t defeat them in the ECF. Now Miami will only have one position of weakness!

Mirotec better turn into Dwight Howard this off season or GAR/PAX going to be fielding plenty of questions of how Pat Riley pimped them once again. Matter of fact, I’m writing about it now.

by Roscoe63 on Jun 25, 2011 6:34 PM CDT reply actions  

i decided to simply rec u and NOT read roscoe's post's comments

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by marionette on Jun 26, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's not the Bulls responsibility to block what Miami does.

That’s just fan talk. And you’re being silly in thinking that Miami, picking at the end of the first round, was just going to solidify a PG position with… who, Cole? Another small guard who probably isn’t as good as Chalmers?

How does one practice consistency? Take lots of Benefiber?
by WearShades on May 31, 2011 6:37 AM PDT

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jun 25, 2011 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't give the Bulls more than a B+.

They might have done as well as they could under the circumstances, but I reserve "A"s for lottery picks or draft steals of historic proportions. Outside of the lottery picks in this draft, I think Denver may have made a draft steal of historic proportions with Kenneth Faried. Of course, it’s way to early to tell. Drafts should really be graded five years later.

Look, for example, at the 2006 draft. LeMarcus Aldridge looks good at number 2 and if the Bulls had it to do over again they wouldn’t have traded for Tyrus Thomas. (I think Thomas still has more potential than Aldridge if he could ever get his head straight. Maybe he’ll be another Zach Randolph and turn it around — but not for the Bulls.) A couple of years ago everyone would have said Roy was a great pick at number 6, but now we know why teams get nervous about players with knee problems. But the real steal of the draft was Rajon Rondo at number 21. Who would have thunk it? Lots of other players are still in the league, but many others are not. And Toronto fans may wish number one pick Bargnani was not. He scores enough to keep his starting job while doing nothing else for his team.

What really sticks out about any draft graded five years later is that very few players turn into genuine stars. Even getting a steady role player is far from certain. That’s especially true after the lottery picks are over. Yes, there are exceptions, but that’s mostly a matter of luck.

by Tim S. on Jun 26, 2011 7:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Paul Millsap at number 47 was another steal in 2006.

Thought I should mention it before someone else did. Actually, I think Faried could be another Millsap, or better. But then I thought the same about number 20 pick Renaldo Balkman, and he’s had trouble finding playing time. So you never know.

by Tim S. on Jun 26, 2011 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

its not luck

certain teams have repeated success later in the draft while other teams continually come up with nothing. The Bulls, Spurs, and Jazz have been routinely good with late round picks while teams like the Lakers have been continually inept. Its a matter of how much you are willing to invest and how good your scouting department is.

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 26, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not all luck, but

even the best teams have missed out on some great players, and drafted some busts.

by Tim S. on Jun 26, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Captain obvious strikes again

BaB...where JBJ whines and lots of people argue with him

by BigforkBullsFan on Jun 26, 2011 5:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

They say good luck is opportunity plus preparation

You need that opportunity, which is out of a team’s hands.

by tuluse on Jun 26, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

sure, you can't totally decide your fate, buts its not completely out of anyone's hands

the late round picks are the ones you have the most control over because once you get into the 2nd round, unless you have an extraordinary draft, people generally sell low on 2nd round picks.

Since 1999 the Spurs picked at pick 26 or later – Ginobili, Parker, Scola, Barbosa, Udrih, Mahinmi, Splitter, Dragic, George Hill, Blair and John Salmons. That is 10 NBA players in 10 years at pick 26 or later. That is great scouting, not luck.

The Bulls seem to be trying to follow the Spurs model. Using late round picks to pick up quality international players and experienced college players.

by Basketball Smurf on Jun 26, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

derrick williams

irving, valanciunas, burks, kawhi leonard, faried and mirotic were the guys i think we’ll look back on as keys from this draft, especially (in the case of leonard and faried) where they were picked. (i should add biyombo could make a big mark too, but he was pick SOOOO high.)

roscoe thinks norris cole belongs in that group, apparently. as always, time will tell.

♫ i've entered a snake of pits with knives in the back of me ♫ can't call you or on you no more when they're attacking me ♫

by marionette on Jun 26, 2011 5:15 PM CDT reply actions  

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