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This is so great

The Playoffs: That magical time of year when I become a fan of every team that Lebron James isn't playing for.

by Juiceboxjerry on May 7, 2011 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

we're lucky we get to see him 100 times this year

instead of just 16 or 17.

This life long, extremley passionate Bulls fan has chosen to cheer alone.
- sloantojordantorose

by JockstrapNoah on May 7, 2011 5:22 PM CDT reply actions

He'd be the greatest WR of all time, OF ALL TIME

eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.

by Sir Buckets on May 7, 2011 11:48 PM CDT reply actions

I was thinking RB because of the way he can get through any defense.

by chitownsports25 on May 7, 2011 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions

Barry Sanders: 5’8
Walter Payton: 5’10
AP: 6’1
D Rose: 6’3

Randy Moss: 6’4
Jerry Rice: 6’2
TO: 6’3
D Rose: 6’3 (fits right in)

There is without a doubt in my mind with Derrick’s height, speed and leaping ability that he could have been one of the best wide receivers of all time. I have my doubts that he would be able to last as a running back, Thomas Jones is 4 inches shorter and 30 pounds heavier.

The real question: Who would win in a race, Devin Hester or Derrick Rose?

Bears. Bulls. White Sox.

by The Voiss on May 8, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions

Rose is fast

But I have to take Hester

"You control the rebounds, You control the game"- Hanamichi Sakuragi

by T.Moore on May 8, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions

No way

As freakishly athletic as Rose is, he’s just another guy when you compare him to NFL wideouts. And in terms of straight-line speed, there’s no doubt in my mind that Hester’s faster than Rose and it’s not even that close.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on May 8, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah, you are probably right

It just seems like Derrick Rose moves so fast because a basketball court is much smaller then a football field and probably just gives off the perspective of moving super fast.

Bears. Bulls. White Sox.

by The Voiss on May 8, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions

You don't think Rose can run a 4.3? haha, come on dude.

MJ ran a 4.2 or 4.3,

Same with Lebron

Rose has 4.3 speed instant acceleration

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by Trey23 on May 10, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions

Got a link to those speed claims?

by tuluse on May 11, 2011 3:14 AM CDT up reply actions

Eddie George was awesome.

If Rose changed to a RB in football, he’d easily put on a lot more weight. His sport keeps him thinner than normal.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on May 8, 2011 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions

It's hard to tell.

The real follow-up question: What’s the race’s distance? Because the only hard data we have on their respective speeds are the results of pre-draft timed runs.

At his pro day in 2006, Hester ran the 40-yd dash in 4.27 seconds. At the 2008 NBA combine, Rose did the 3/4 court sprint in 3.05 seconds.

That’s not really even a good indicator, though, because if you extrapolate Rose’s sprint time, which is based on 70.5 feet, out to the 120 feet Hester was timed at, Rose clocks in at 5.19 seconds, which, simply, is too slow of a time. Rose just isn’t that slow.

Conversely, if you use Hester’s pace in his 40 and scale the distance down to 3/4 of a basketball court, Hester theoretically would’ve run it in 2.5 seconds, which I’m not sure is possible. The fastest 3/4 court sprint on record is 2.91 seconds by some dude named Cookie Belcher in 2001.

The differences in pace for the runners in the respective races are the starting burst and how long they can keep running fast. Hester has good burst but also has the stamina to keep running fast for a longer distance. I’m sure Rose wouldn’t be 5.19 slow, but while we know he can be fast off the jump, would he have the straight-line stamina for 40 yards to compete with Hester?

by joshlos on May 9, 2011 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Following up on this excellent post:

The ESPN Sports Science segment on Rose (link) states that, extrapolating from court data, they estimate that Rose could break the world-record end-to-end time of 3.9 seconds by over .1 seconds, putting his time somewhere between 3.8 seconds and 3.7 seconds. Running the math, if he maintained that speed through a 40 yard dash (which would only be 26 more feet than a basketball court, end-to-end), his 40 time would be somewhere in the 4.7 range.

Now, this isn’t exactly correct, as he’d be at top speed for that last 26 feet, whereas the 3.7ish end-to-end time would have built in his slower start. Without knowing how fast he gets up to top speed, and whether he can maintain it over 40 yards, there’s really no way of extrapolating how fast he’d run the 40 from basketball.

(For those who don’t care about dubious websites, I did find a couple that say Rose’s 40 time is 4.18 — here, here and here — but they don’t cite any sources, and they seem unverified.)

by arjoseph on May 10, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions

Seriously, Rose is 4.4 at maximum

With some practice, no doubt he is equal to the fastest players in the NFL

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by Trey23 on May 10, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions

seriously

why cant he get through any defense? why cant he shyt on jerry rice’s career? WHY? WHY?

The NBA Playoffs - always the best reminder why Joakim Noah is my fav Bull

by Belize on May 9, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Hate to say this,

But that’s Jerry Rice, and it’s locked up. No one will even come close to touching his records in receptions, receiving yards, touchdowns, most yards in a single season (which he did in the strike shortened season), most touchdowns in a single season (Randy Moss broke it with 22 in 16 games, compared to Jerry Rice’s 21 touchdowns in 12 games). I love me some Derrick Rose, but Jerry Rice was a transcendent receiver that would’ve been amazing in any era of football.

Bears. Bulls. White Sox.

by The Voiss on May 8, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions