2011 Eastern Conference Finals: Bosh outduels Boozer as Heat take 2-1 series lead
| Pace | Eff | eFG | FT/FG | OREB% | TOr | |
| Chicago | 82.0 | 103.7 | 44.8% | 20.8 | 32.5 | 13.4 |
| Miami | 117.1 | 53.0% | 37.3 | 15.2 | 12.2 |
I worried before the series that there'd be a game where the Heat have an offensively dominant game, and here's to hoping this will be the only time it happens from here on out.
Sometimes, they just look to have too many weapons, too much versatility in their best players, an unmatched ability to draw FTs, and a supporting cast that...at least won't kill them. The Heat played a very tight 8-man rotation, with only Mike Miller bringing nothing, and that's a lot smaller total of useless players than they're used to. Udonis Haslem didn't have the same impact as in game two but hit some huge jumpers in the 4th, and Joel Anthony had 5 blocks. Mike Bibby and Mario Chalmers contributed 6 points each, which isn't great shakes, but those 12 points were only one less than Bogans/Korver/Brewer/Watson combined for on the evening.
And then back to the Heat's Big 3, a designation that even Carlos Boozer would have to agree with after seeing what Chris Bosh did to him, Noah, and (the trash-talking?) Taj Gibson. Bosh had his second great game of the series, finishing 13-18 from the floor, and it wasn't all jumpers, either. LeBron James seemingly sandbagged the game waiting for the 4th quarter, heading into that final period with only 8 attempts but doing nearly everything else. Honestly, it's just weird to see a player that talented so easily contained outside by a switching big-man. But whether it was out of a strange sense of complacency or a fear of being too aggressive, James's passing ability was certainly effective against an aggressive (to the point of over-helping, and biting on too many fakes) Bulls defense. Dwyane Wade actually had a relatively poor night, finishing more lying on the floor than at the rim, but Bosh's outburst more than compensated to make for a big night overall from Miami's stars.
And with that in mind, for once a Thibs post-game where he emphasized defense-only could seem apt. But the offense was poor as well, and it affects the other end as Thibs rolled the dice with more offensive (in a way) personnel.
Both teams looked really sloppy early (long layoff, in South Beach no less, likely didn't help) but the Bulls were able to get some 2nd quarter scoring from Carlos Boozer (26 points overall), and after two fortuitous Luol Deng 3-pointers in the third quarter still were only down 3 heading into the fourth. But riding with Boozer and inserting Kyle Korver in to close out the game once again proved to hurt the defense more than it helped the point total. Korver only hit one three-pointer and that was off a broken play on a handoff from Boozer, and it seemed that while Booz had his best offensive game in a while (though he seemingly still left many points on the floor, maddeningly missing inside gimmes and and-one chances), he was giving nearly everything back on the other end.
It's an ongoing issue, because while the Bulls certainly have better defensive lineups (though Omer Asik was forced out of the game with a leg strain), Rose hasn't been great enough to not require more offensive help around him. Another unspectacular game for Rose, able to convert a few fantastic inside attempts, but in this game unable to really buoy his point total from the line (only 3-3). As it has been in a relatively difficult series for Rose, the Heat were both aggressively doubling him off pick/rolls, and were able to alter his attempts at the rim. And while the Bulls had another game where they were able to dominate the glass, those extra attempts weren't manifesting into more offense: neither through leading to tip-ins (Noah didn't have a single field goal), 3 pointers, or helping the team get into the penalty faster (Boozer the only one passing Rose's 3 FTs). It mostly led to more bricks.
So with Rose needing the help and Boozer playing well, Booz was in after 4 minutes into the final quarter after sitting then in the previous two games. His offense wasn't doing enough to make up for the negative effects on the defense, and the Bulls once again saw a late close game starting to slip away from them, with LeBron having awaken from his self-induced slumber to add scoring to his 'talents', and Derrick Rose not being able to keep up.
And then Korver was put in midway through the period, Thibs showing the hope that a shooter as good as Korver will find his shot eventually (and at this point, it could just be the Heat are athletic enough to more easily stay with him). The stint was a disastrous -9 in 1:30, before Korver was pulled with the Bulls down 13 points. It has to be a bit crushing to Korver to realize that his shooting would've been the only realistic way for the Bulls to make up such a deficit, but Thibs still went with Ronnie Brewer instead for the rest of the game.
But if Korver isn't making shots his value is limited, and it shows the similar factor with a lot of this roster. As Steve Kerr remarked during the game, Thibodeau has choices whether to go more offense or more defense, but there's a drawback to each. The Heat don't have that roster flexibility, but that also have two-way stars (Bosh is no great defender but is more capable than, say, Boozer) able to play a lot of minutes, and a supporting group that had a nice outing at home.
In game three it was all too much, and it may have showed on the Bulls a bit as between Taj trash-talking Bosh, Bogans getting into it with Wade, and Noah's fine-able spat with a fan, they seemed to struggle with their composure in the game. But it's still a long series to go, so let's hope that the Bulls will be more ready for the hostile environment, and that this was the Heat's best shot.
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I think Korver is out of place in those late game lineups.
when the score is close and each possession matters so much, you need defense. I think Korver should play more with the bench and boozer. We saw last night how when rose was out, the offense ran through korver, who set up some touches for boozer inside and also led to korver’s only 3-point attempt of the night. I thought this worked really well with watson and gibson (or was it asik?) on the floor to provide D.
by Uncle Stanley McGoober on May 23, 2011 9:07 AM CDT reply actions
I just think that Boozer and Korver should never be on the floor together
They really hurt the defense when they are.
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
why in the fuck are bogans and gibson talking shit to wade and bosh?
Don’t piss these guys off, they’re better players than you. Just let your defense do the talking. Stay focused. This is what thibs told Luol in the first pacers game when he got a tech. FOCUS!
by #1humblebot on May 23, 2011 9:21 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 6 recs
i thought Bogans obviously lost his cool
which was not something I was really expecting. Taj shit talking to Bosh was accompanied by a ref bailing out The Ostrich in the lane. It seems like whenever Bosh, James or Wade get withing 4 ft from the basket they just start flailing and so far Bosh and Wade have been getting the calls.
by Basketball Smurf on May 23, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Meh, the crap they talk doesn't matter.
Taj and Wade are allstars, they don’t just play well when people insult them. They play well the majority of the time.
As long as they aren’t T’d up who cares.
Agree
Trash talking happens all the time
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
I liked it
I like Bogans D – i thought he did a great job keeping wade out of the game
I like seeing Taj talk some trash as bosh sizes him up -
its a part of the game and for me it shows are guys arent intimidated
yup it got me pumped up knowing that our guys are not going to back down
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
seems like everytime asik leaves the game in the 4th qt with an injury we fall apart.
Damn it sheek, stay on the floor!
by #1humblebot on May 23, 2011 9:24 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I thought we would see Thomas after that
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
2 very winnable games, but Rose just hasn't been very good in this series.
And it’s kind of pathetic that he’s getting evened out by Mike Bibby. Maybe it’s fatigue after his first long extended season but Derrick just isn’t looking effective at all.
He quits on the possession after he gets doubled too.
He just stands and watches his teammates fuck the game away.
He hasn't been the Derrick we watched all year.
Although I think the Heat deserve a lot of credit for that. He just hasn’t looked comfortable at all out there. Even in the first game when he had 28, it was mostly mid-range stuff with only one bucket at the rim. Maybe he just needs to settle for those jumpers over Bibby more if he isn’t getting to the line much on drives anyways?
"After Game 1, they made me and Joe’s life a living hell." - Jamal Crawford
The Heats defense has been really good.
When Rose passes the ball he needs to start cutting to the basket for a pass or get the ball back and cut to score quickly.
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
There isn't another player on the floor that gets more attention than Derrick does
The Heat are daring the Bulls teammates to beat them and they can’t.
Main difference in the last 2 games were that the bigs aren’t getting the job done. They should be dominating the glass with all the attention Rose gets from the 3 point line.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on May 23, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Noah did a good job distributing the ball...
just not taking it to the rim himself.
Lebbeus clarehanna!
The passing is nice part of his game
But his job is to own the paint.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on May 23, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
^^^ exactly
He is our best rebounder and a beast on the offensive boards. His passing ability is a nice option to have, but the Bulls should not take him out of the painted area to utilize it. In my opinion, we would be better off having Luol come out to get the ball from Derrick. That takes Lebron out of the paint, and leaves Jo down there to do what he does best.
by darksmokepuncher on May 23, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
also
it goes without saying that our best option to help Derrick out would be another guard, but our options there are limited.
by darksmokepuncher on May 23, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought he was fouled on that.
#10 You will be missed.
by Bricks and Ivy on May 23, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
true
The Bulls post players played really soft all game/series. Boozer had what 27 or something and they were mostly jumpers. Just very soft.
#10 You will be missed.
by Bricks and Ivy on May 23, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
He disappeared in game 3, the same way LeBron disappeared in game 1.
I was surprised to find out he had so many points.
Lebbeus clarehanna!
Rose has stopped
taking an inordinate amount of threes. Did someone tell him to stop chucking? Has this messed up his game a little?
He confidence has really been shaken for whatever reason.
In his shot at least. He doesn’t wanna shoot it like he used to.
At least the game threads any way.
I don't always block shots, but when I do....I block yours.
Kyle Korver is open as soon as he gets out of his car at the UC. -
Stacey King
yeah, Mike Bibby is "evening out" Rose.
Lets not get overly dramatic.
by Basketball Smurf on May 23, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Bibby is doing a passable job at defending Rose (with help, of course) and nailing shots. Rose hasn't shot well, isn't playing defense, and is being taken out of the game by Miami's offense.
by Ozzie Montana on May 23, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Way over-simplification of Rose's play
Bibby had 6 points. That’s what you considered nailing shots?
Comparing Rose offensive output to what Bibby bring is laughable.
Rose hasn’t shot well, but both defenses have been doing a great job of keeping stars out of the paint and well under their normal scoring numbers
Rose isn’t playing defense? again, cause Bibby had 6 points? Please. I guess you completely forget about the times in the game where they Rose guard Wade. If anything, it’s Bosh and LeBron that have been doing the most damage offensively against the Bulls, and last I checked, Rose doesn’t guard either of those guys.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on May 23, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bibby is playing like Bogans
6 points they win
'Don't believe in you who believe in me and don't believe in me who believes in you, but believe in you who believe in yourself'
To me
any 3 he hits breaks the game open
'Don't believe in you who believe in me and don't believe in me who believes in you, but believe in you who believe in yourself'
Well yeah but this one was big because the Bulls worked so hard to tie the game
and they blew a 4 on two break to have LeBron find a wide open Bibby for 3. The Heat never trailed in the game again.
He's getting the shots he wants sometimes
but when you get to the lane as much as he did and only go to the line three times, that’s a lot to deal with
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Miami did what it was supposed to do in game 3, win at home.
We didn’t play well, but nothing has changed. We used up one of our three chances to win on their court, that’s all.
Now, can Miami do what it’s supposed to do in game 4?
Lebbeus clarehanna!
by Osaka on May 23, 2011 9:42 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Agreed.
This one game does not affect what happens in the next.
I am just happy we don’t have to wait another three days!
7 for 7.
by Dionysus2.0 on May 23, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's safe to say game 4 is on Derrick Rose now.
He needs to get to the line and do it from the start of the game. not the second quarter or when ever he feels like it. It would be nice if Thibs would post him or get him closer to the basket.
It's thinking like this
and you get Rose shooting 8-27.
His teammates have to step up to.
You do realize that Brewer, Bogans, and Korver combined for 11 points right?
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on May 23, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
er, too
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on May 23, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
You're saying Rose needs to be attacking from first quarter
But it’s against Thibs gameplan since the beginning of the season.
Clearly they are coached to distribute until later in the game where they call more Rose ISO plays.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on May 23, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah well posting Boozer in the first 5 possessions of the game isn't working.
Rose needs to get to the line I don’t know what else to say. He needs to get Miami in foul trouble early like they did in game 1. Rose got to the line 3 times last night? I also think the calls might go towards the Bulls in game 4. Just a hunch if ya know what I mean.
It doesn't really matter what the recipe has been for the majority of the year,
against this Miami Heat team Derrick Rose needs to be a dominant scorer for the Bulls to win. Thats just how it is. The only other way for the Bulls to win is for everyone else to be really, really good, but thats never gonna happen. Rose needs to will this team to victory tomorrow night, however daunting that task may be.
Maybe the Bulls need Rose to put up 27 shots in one of these games
I’ve been saying for awhile the Heat have been begging Boozer to score 30 with the way they are guarding him, and when he almost does, it didn’t seem very impactful. I don’t know – the Bulls have to find a way to get Rose going. Maybe its time for a 7 3pt attempt performance or something. Rose is playing bad, but he still the only thing I trust on the offensive end. Bogans/Korver have been terrible. Deng can’t seem to find any sort of rhythm against Lebron. Noah doesn’t look mentally ready. Boozer is Boozer – even when he has a good game. Asik can’t make a layup. Watson is a 1 on 1 player. Only Taj has been consistent on both ends.
by Basketball Smurf on May 23, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree with all of this
Remember when we all used to be confident in close games, even if the Bulls were down? It was because of Rose. The only problem is that I haven’t felt this way during the Miami series (well, games 2 and 3), and I think it’s because Rose has been fairly passive. I remember when a 6 point deficit was not worrisome, but in the past two games it has seemed lime a 20 point deficit.
The priority for the Bulls should be getting Rose back to form, by any means necessary.
"If the Bulls are healthy it could get ugly." - Joakim Noah
by bryield on May 23, 2011 10:26 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Sounds like your coaching advice is to use more of an one-dimensional offense
(Rose) against one of the fastest and 2nd best defense in the league. Isn’t the one-man army moniker considered the Bulls greatest weakness? Forget about forcing the heat to defend by moving the ball around like they did in game 1. Not tomention, role players hiting shots.
some of our fans want to Joe for those guys...
wanna trade?
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Hell yes.
never forget...
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anything is possible...
by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been saying that
sinc ethe start of the series
'Don't believe in you who believe in me and don't believe in me who believes in you, but believe in you who believe in yourself'
Agreed
And I alsot think the Bulls need to play a little Pacers-style basketball. Some of you won’t like to hear me say that, but if the refs are going to let both teams beat each other up in the paint, then make the fouls count. Bosh will know that KT was guarding him when he wakes up the next morning and with jello legs and welts on his arms. And for those that think Bogans and Taj lost their cool, I would disagree. In this type of environment, you either pick up your intensity, or you go home. And our guys don’t want to end their season just yet. I can appreciate that.
LeBron is an Asshole
Spot-on regarding Boozer & Noah
I was screaming at the TV that Boozer was missing a lot of and-one opportunities; for some reason he couldn’t convert them. And I usually love the intensity Noah brings to the game, but right now he’s getting psyched out instead of psyched up. It’s easy to say, but he needs to control that so his intensity only has a positive impact on the game; not take himself out.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany." - Ron Burgundy
I said it while watching the game...
Picking up that first foul five seconds into the game really threw off his intensity and rhythm the rest of the night…
7 for 7.
by Dionysus2.0 on May 23, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Your points about Boozer are true
But he was the least of our issues last night. He can just keep playing like that.
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anything is possible...
by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Bulls deserved to lose, but the officials were bad too
The Bulls can’t win this series if they are going to be called for nearly every touch foul / leaning pick / hand check / borderline reach while the Heat are allowed to muscle them without getting whistled. The touch fouls called on Noah and Gibson (especially while the Bulls are on offense) cost us key possessions, screw up our substitution patterns and prevent any kind of offensive rhythm. Meanwhile the refs didn’t call any reach-ins against the Heat and especially LeBron, who appeared to be abusing Rose (at least in my admittedly biased eyes).
I will never doubt the Chairman again.
by nateroth on May 23, 2011 9:57 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
sports are fixed
i dont like to think that – and i wont blame officials for a win or loss – but some of those calls were strange
what was that first call against luol deng to start the game? i couldnt hear what happened…
I thought the Miami inbounder threw the ball off the refs hand?
The ref then called it off the Bulls? Really weird.
that was a really bad call
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- fundamentallysound
by J Theory on May 23, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
he claimed since he was out of bounds
and the ball hit his hand, the ball was never inbounded. I’ve never seen that happen before so I don’t know if it was the correct call. Pretty awful way to begin a game though, especially since Noah picked up his first foul 5 seconds later.
by Basketball Smurf on May 23, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Only the nba
has shitty reffing every game, and you get suprised when they call a good game. i.e Game 1
'Don't believe in you who believe in me and don't believe in me who believes in you, but believe in you who believe in yourself'
That's what I really don't like about basketball
In baseball, an umpire can only do so much, because there’s only about 4-5 calls a game that you could actually mess up. In basketball, there’s so many ways you could screw a game up.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
so, winning the game makes the reffing good, eh?
WTH. it’s that thinking that makes this world a very effed-up place. when things go your way, it’s good. when thing go out of your way, it’s bad. LOL. as i can see, calls were called uneven for all the playoff teams, and does not favor any team.
If you can actually read i didnt say that.
I said that they suck. And the only time i remembered decent reffing was game 1, few free throws, a few bad calls but nothing earth shattering it was pretty fair and they let them play no touch foul BS and both teams were called evenly and we just happened to win that game “heat fan”. I never blamed the refs the bulls had chances throughout games 2 and 3 and blew them, im just saying compare the reffing from game 1 to 2/3 its pretty crappy. Besides everyone knows that the NBA refs consistently SUCK no matter what team is playing. Pretty much all I and maybe some people want is decent, consistent, fair reffing, look at every other sport and each of them has at least decent reffing in a consistent basis few bad calls that may have an effect to the game but not as much as the NBA cause they dont suck as much as they do. when its always a shock that they call a fair game (like in game 1) you know they suck.
So now you can STFU and GTFO
'Don't believe in you who believe in me and don't believe in me who believes in you, but believe in you who believe in yourself'
This clearly affected Noah and Rose
Neither could buy a call in the game. Noah was whistled for 5 fouls in 29 minutes, and there wasn’t a moderately hard foul in the bunch. The tone was set from the first Heat possession, as Deng grabbed a steal on the inbounds play, the ref whistled the play dead for some absurd / unclear reason, and Noah was called for a touch foul on the do-over. He was called for an illegal screen on Bibby based on a flop which had no bearing on the play, and his over-the-back call was only deemed a foul because LeBron was the other guy with a play on the ball.
There’s not a whole lot Rose can do when Anthony, Haslem, and LeBron are allowed to be that physical on help defense. Rose seemed to change his focus to avoiding turnovers rather than attacking as he realized that he wasn’t getting to the line when he got bodied up, shoved, or had a hand draped around him. Rose and Deng combined for 32 fga, including 13 at the rim and 18 inside 10 feet, yet they only shot a combined 3 fts. In contrast, LeBron and Wade combined for 30 fga, including 11 at the rim and 14 inside 10 feet, and they shot a combined 15 fts. The Bulls this season committed fewer fouls than the Heat.
The ft disparity wasn’t due to a difference in the style of defense — the Bulls don’t foul more than the Heat. It also wasn’t due to a difference in the style of offense — LeBron and Wade settled for jumpers most of the game and weren’t in the lane more often than Rose and Deng. In fact, the Bulls as a team had 46 fga inside 10 feet compared to just 28 for the Heat. The officials called the game differently for one team versus the other, and that was the most upsetting part. The Heat don’t need help to compete, and this could’ve been an exciting, tight game otherwise.
by from the window to luol on May 23, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 13 recs
this is why I don't bother to even acknowledge the refs much
seems like a lot of work to come up with evidence of a disparity in calls, and even then you can’t call it bias more than incompetence, yet you go into the process having a bias in the first place (i.e. the Bulls were hosed and Noah didn’t commit a foul all night)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 23, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
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by chapuforyou on May 23, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Im still going
“called it cause its lebron” theory…but maybe you’re right
'Don't believe in you who believe in me and don't believe in me who believes in you, but believe in you who believe in yourself'
I thought he didn't foul him
But with the way LeBron acted like he got fouled, it would be a fouled. I highly doubt LeBron would actually be pushed that much from behind by someone that is tall and lengthy with nowhere near as much muscle, nor even throwing his body in.
It was a smart basketball play by LeBron to get the foul, and one of the reasons why my friend who loves hockey can’t stand basketball, because it was a definite touch foul.
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
the man is 6-8 260
And he fell like a lightweight
'Don't believe in you who believe in me and don't believe in me who believes in you, but believe in you who believe in yourself'
Maybe this is what Rose and company need to start doing.
never forget...
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anything is possible...
by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Not just the refs....comes down to style of play
Miami can succeed in a physical game where they are allowed to rough up Rose away from the basket without sending him to the line.
On offense the Heat can just isolate, pound the ball and hit contested jump shots at the end of the shot clock. The Bulls can’t play that type of game and beat Miami. It may be “playoff basketball” but it’s not what this team has been doing all year.
Add in touch fouls (some of the calls when the Bulls were going for offensive rebounds, for example) and it becomes too big of an obstacle to overcome against such evenly matched teams.
I will never doubt the Chairman again.
by nateroth on May 23, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have to give you credit for rationalizing blaming the refs so well, and not just being a typical OMG THE REFS SCREWED US poster.
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by MichaelClutchtree on May 23, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, I wasn't that pissed at the refs before, but you've really made me reconsider
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by Juiceboxjerry on May 24, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd hate to say I told you so, about boozers 20/10, but
shit fuck- we lost.
Thibs got his team a chemistry set for Christmas
by livesinnoahsbasement on May 23, 2011 10:02 AM CDT reply actions
yup, that was an important prediction, thanks for the reminder
and also to those who said Rose would score 35 because…I dunno, you wanted him to.
I just try and delete predictions now, so no worries everyone.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 23, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
for real
monday would have been so much better had the Bulls won last night
i have a friend on FB who is a heat fan -im afrain to look at my wall… he will write “bulls suck”….ive spoke so much shit on facebook after game 1….. but since then…the bulls do suck……
Heat fans are just as cocky and stupid as the Heat players.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
everyone gets cocky when their team wins.
everybody feels good when something good happens. i can’t really blame people for being cocky after a game. all you can do is hope for your team to silence-up those cocks the next game.
Am I the only one getting pissed about this
but would it KILL our bigs to use a pump-fake now and then??
Seriously! It should be such an easy thing to do. And it works!
(Oh, and DON’T jump on Wade, LeDouche and the rest’s PF’s!)
MN: 7
Don't think it would be that effective.
He’s not a threat from deep. If the defender is disciplined he just stays down with a hand up and let’s him fire away.
More effective for bigs, since they’re closer to the basket and therefore more of a threat to score.
Our bigs should all work on their foot-work and post moves, too btw.
MN: 7
also effective because Joel Anthony is trying to block everything that goes up.
by darksmokepuncher on May 23, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I can think of a couple where Omer/Noah/Taj should have done a pump fake.
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Omer can't use pump fakes because he doesn't have much touch around the hoop
And I doubt he can hold onto the ball for more than 5 seconds.
by Ozzie Montana on May 23, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Loul Deng does a pump fake everytime before he dribbles.
#10 You will be missed.
by Bricks and Ivy on May 23, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
It's the least convincing pump-fake of all time.
Contrast it with Nowitski’s, which the TNT guys broke down the other night. It was interesting. They talked about how he does everything just like his shot, including how he’s looking at the rim. Slo-mo confirmed.
Luol just kind of waves his arms up and down a couple times and comes barreling towards the lane, god bless him.
by Brooklyn Bulls on May 23, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
You don't have to get guys in the air for it to be effective.
Luol does a good job at getting them off balance and drives to the bucket. Dirk’s is probably more effective because he’s more of a threat to shoot.
#10 You will be missed.
by Bricks and Ivy on May 23, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps the Bulls should try going small for some stretches
to spread the floor for Rose. Go Rose, Bogans, Korver, Deng and Noah. On offense have Noah set a pick for Rose with Deng and Bogans in the corners and Korver near the top past the 3 pt line ready to shoot. If they collapse his the open guy for a 3. If they trap, give it to Noah and let him make the play. Right now it almost looks like the Heat are playing a zone – box and 1, daring the Bulls to shoot from outside and trapping Rose whenever he gets near the basket. With Deng at the 4 the increased 3 pt shooting and slashing could be beneficial.
Defensively, if they don’t go small too, put Korver on Anthony or Haslem and tell all 5 guys to crash the defensive boards.
by Basketball Smurf on May 23, 2011 10:54 AM CDT reply actions
nope
put Korver on Anthony or Haslem
I assumed in his scenario Deng would be on Lebron as usual.
I dunno...
One of our biggest competitive advantages has been our offensive rebounding which is caused by having two great rebounders on the court at all times. Why would you want to neutralize one of our only advantages?
by Luol's Dong on May 23, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
that is a good point
i wouldn’t trot it out all the time, but 4 minutes in the 2nd and 3rd just to open up the game for Rose a bit. I feel like once Rose gets a rhythm, than he is usually solid from there on out. Plus, it would give Miami a bit more to think about. I just think the Bulls have to do something to open up the floor a bit more. They are being suffocated by Miami’s D in the halfcourt.
by Basketball Smurf on May 23, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought Heat weakness was against big front lines.
On offense, LeBron and Wade would own a small bulls lineup.
I wonder if Thibs is going to continue employing the same strategy of containing Wade/LeBron and letting Bosh go wild.
Crazy at it sounds, I think at this point stopping Bosh is more important than stopping Wade. Bosh is merely a safety valve on most of Miami’s sets, their bailout guy when the defense collapses. Take away him and force James and Wade to take stupid shots (which they have dutifully obliged with).
Is he any good of a passer?
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by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
it's hard to say
i was just looking at the shot charts from games 1 and 3. in game 1 bosh only attempted 6 shots outside the paint and made 2. in game 3 he shot 12 outside the paint and made 7. the former sucks since he got all those inside, but i don’t see him replicating a 7/12 game on jumpers again. he was just on fire last night. it was a much different game for him than game 1… so while it seems like he killed us twice it was two different ways, one of which i find probably won’t be a repeatable performance.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
I think Gibson may need to start. The Heat is exploiting Boozer's defense
or lack of mobility. They are a quick team that negates both Boozer and Korvers lack of atheticism. Maybe more time for Brewer also.
Someone needs to make a video of these three straight Wade possesions:
Dribbles ball out of bounds (not good)
Dunk rejected by the rim (bad)
Dunk rejected by Boozer (unheard of)
Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Cha-pu
Here's that one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPE_xC-IJFw
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by chapuforyou on May 23, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
A few things here.
1. TNT is in Heat ass licking mode.
2. The Bulls had Noah on Bibby in the post on the break and passed it to LeBron instead.
3. Derrick Rose passing up a chance to get fouled by passing to Bogans in the corner. Why?
regarding #1
didn’t you just post this?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 23, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Miami can't win can't be allowed to win a title this year
It will be talked about the whole year maybe even during the maybe lockout
'Don't believe in you who believe in me and don't believe in me who believes in you, but believe in you who believe in yourself'
Who wants an NBA if the Heat win a title?
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by chapuforyou on May 23, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
If its any other year...
people wont be as pissed, but this year with all that happened its going to piss most NBA fans off and its going to fuck up the game for a decade…Not to mention dumbass bandwagon heat fans
'Don't believe in you who believe in me and don't believe in me who believes in you, but believe in you who believe in yourself'
I know I said this
But they REALLY don’t deserve a sports team. Worst fans than Philly
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by T.Moore on May 23, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
paul wall meets Ken Jeong?
The NBA Playoffs - always the best reminder why Joakim Noah is my fav Bull
I saw him at the game last night.
Miami fans are amusing.
I'm not sure if you're serious...If you are, the reasons are simple:
1) Dutton’s xBABIP has to be input by hand, so it takes a long time to calculate.
2) I do this for free.
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what is the opposite of a rec?
Thibs got his team a chemistry set for Christmas
by livesinnoahsbasement on May 23, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
Stern can’t allow it… can he?
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by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
if game 3 is close...thibs should play rose,brewer,gibson.deng& osik for the entire 4thqt.
by #1humblebot on May 23, 2011 12:03 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
dunno if anyone brought it up
but Brewer X rose X deng X gibson and booz lineup looked pretty good
The NBA Playoffs - always the best reminder why Joakim Noah is my fav Bull
Agreed...
And I think whichever big is most appropriate can be subbed for Boozer if he sucks..
7 for 7.
by Dionysus2.0 on May 23, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
what's ur secret?
i tried kicking squirrels. didnt work
The NBA Playoffs - always the best reminder why Joakim Noah is my fav Bull
Just got to get your mind off it as hard as it is.
I think the Bulls will win game 4. I keep telling myself that. Also i might not even watch it live I’m thinking of recording it and then finding out the final score and then watching it to protect my sanity and this blog.
by SoulEater7 on May 23, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
icant do the replay
some asshole is gonna ring my phone if we lose and ill..just fukin lose it
BREAK STUFF!!!
The NBA Playoffs - always the best reminder why Joakim Noah is my fav Bull
I will have to listen on the radio
I haven’t done that since the Hinrich/Gordon era. Doesn’t do me any justice.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's pretty clear what Rose needs to work on in the off-season this summer
He needs to take an acting class and add that flopping element to his game that every superstar seems to have. Though I hate it, this is how the NBA is played and good players take advantage of it. He needs to flail his arms every time he drives to the rim or takes a shot. He needs to learn that corkscrew that Paul does every time there is a tiny bit of contact.
Though it won’t actually make a difference for a few years since the officials are clearly biased to the point of ruining the game. They think certain players are better (irrelevant if they actually are or not) and, whether subconscious or intentional, they call the game accordingly – I.E. they make sure the players/teams they think are better get the calls that ensure they, more often than not, have better games. Lebron getting away with 1000’s of travels per season for nearly his entire career is proof of that.
how about 3-point shooting first?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 23, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
And practice falling to the floor and yelling really loudly,
come up limping then walking normally to the free throw line.
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
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boozer sucks. the rose,deng,taj,asik & brew lineup is like boston with perkins
Undefeated in short spurts. We need to close with this group on the floor.
by #1humblebot on May 23, 2011 12:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
is it really a good game by boozer when he blows all those and1s and gets sodomized as usual on defense?
God, I hate that guy.
by #1humblebot on May 23, 2011 12:38 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
i dont know who yells more
boozer or bosh?
act like youve scored a bucket before
I know that Boozer's 39 minutes
was due, in part, to Noah and Omer’s early foul trouble, but that’s still too many minutes in comparison with Taj’s 12.
With Noah not playing well, Omer’s limited ability on offense, and Boozer’s dreadful defense, I don’t like the Bulls chances if Taj isn’t given more impactful minutes.
I’m not saying that Taj is a cure-all to what has ailed the Bulls over the last 2 games, but he is one of the team’s better 2 way players.
Bosh is a good player, but does anyone think he scores 34 points if Taj is on him more often?
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It was interesting to me, all the shit-talking going on on this blog after Game 1.
Interesting because I’m not in Chicago, and the over-confidence just grew and grew, got more abrasive and more ad hominem-like. I understand it’s part of sports fandom, but it really is weird to me.
What I didn’t expect is that it would carry over to the team itself. Rose is the “leader” of this team, and he’s always been outwardly humble and respectful. But Boozer calling Miami the Big Two (I don’t think anyone needs to agree that they’re a “Big Three”, but to refer to them as a Big Two is an obvious dig at Bosh), and now Bogans and Gibson talking shit in-game (even though talking is a part of the NBA, these guys doing it now seems different), it does almost seem like this team’s confidence in itself has become arrogance.
That bothers me.
(the usual disclaimer: I’m not a mind-reader so any of this arm-chair mind-reading is not my attempt to state an undeniable fact)
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
not sure it actually impacted their play negatively
the Bulls did win game one by being ‘bullies’, of a sort, dominating inside and in waves of contributors.
Maybe they’ve been doing the same, it just looks worse as Miami has figured out a way to neutralize it a bit. I don’t remember the Bulls doing as much shit-talking, but they do sure like to celebrate and yell, and it just looks better when you’re up 10 instead of down 10.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 23, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
that's probably true.
And I should be worried most about how they played, not the perception or likeability of the team. If their assholes and arrogant and winning games, as my “favorite team,” I should probably be okay with that. But still, I liked, for now, the “underdog” them, and the team did seem to thrive off of it.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
*waits for someone to point out that Boozer had a double double and he's still awesome*
The NBA Playoffs - always the best reminder why Joakim Noah is my fav Bull
boozer is soft as a baby's stool.
That is all.
by #1humblebot on May 23, 2011 1:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You know what that makes me think of?
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by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I just realized that JOHN SALMONS was our closer that game
How far we’ve come. Unfortunately, he’s exactly the type of shooting guard we need right now.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If the Bulls lose 3 straight then Thibs will get exposed as a horrible coach.
Things is, he’s an excellent coach. In the past few seasons I don’t recall the Celtics losing 3 games in a row in the playoffs. 2 losses straight, yeah, but not 3.
We're wining game 4.
Then we will win the series.
by SoulEater7 on May 23, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I like the sound of that.
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Sorry Bulls fans
The simple fact is that the Bulls don’t have enough offense to stay with the Heat. They should have tried to pick up another scorer before the trade deadline. They have an advantage on the boards but I don’t think it will be enough. Wade hasn’t even played well in this series. Game 4 is huge but I feel good about the Heat’s chances! Go Heat!!!!!
by ModernWarfareCamper on May 23, 2011 2:13 PM CDT reply actions
BOOOOOOO!!!
'Don't believe in you who believe in me and don't believe in me who believes in you, but believe in you who believe in yourself'
The Bulls did try to though
I think sometimes the solution to a problem is so simple it gets over looked. Lose the pick&roll and give Asik/Taj more minutes than Noah or Booz.
Both of them seem to shut down all scoring. (on both sides heh) Still I think we might as well go full throttle on defense. No easy baskets which our starters allow inside.
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You live a sad sad life my friend.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Man RogerPark Khris is the only rational one on this blog
Rose can play better but I dont blame him for these losses. I blame the shooters or lack there of. Miami knows they dont have to worry about bogans, brewer or even deng to a certain extent killing from beyond the arc, and when korver is struggling like he is, it is really difficult for Rose to get a step on any of these guys because they are not worried about anybody but him.
I don't think it's blaming him as much as it is saying that he needs to do more
while at the same time acknowledging that asking him to do so isn’t very fair. We all see how much MIA is doing to limit his scoring opportunities; but his team isn’t good enough to bail him out so he has to play out of his mind.
We're just seeing what everyone already knew
The Bulls are offensively limited. This has been obvious all season, but the incredible D covered it up. We really only have 1 guy who can create his own shot. Everyone else is basically dependent upon great team play or getting out in transition (or tip ins) to make shots. I cannot recall a team that had such minimal offensive production from its starting SG competing for the NBA title. Our starting 2 had 4 points. Even if you extrapolate that out to 48 minutes of play or combine Bogans’ and Korver’s stats, it’s still pitiful. Despite his 26 points, Boozer isn’t a guy you can just dump the ball into and set him on automatic. In the first quarter, his offensive miscues led to transition opportunities for MIA. The Bulls simply do not have a reliable second option.
I look at this series and am disappointed but not really surprised. It’s not like I can look at the players and say “it’s so-and-so’s fault” or “guy x is killing us.” We need help. We need one more player who can create and score with some regularity AND get it done on the other end.
The Heat have 3 players who can get their own shots and play some defense. The Bulls have Rose and to some extent Deng— everyone else is looking like a 1-way player right now. You could look at Boozer’s stat line and think “wow, he had a monster game,” but then you actually watch the game and see the 10+ points he left on the floor as well as all of the Heat points scored because of his defensive limitations. Anything guys like Asik and Brewer give you on offense is gravy.
The Bulls are a good team and can still win this series, but if they don’t, their offensive limitations are the reason why.
by Stay Chisel on May 23, 2011 2:23 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Agree w/ you. It seems Heat's speed on defense is bothering Bulls offense also.
I thought our big lineup will give us the edge. Boozer and Korver are too slow on rotations. Noah is tentative on offense.
Not sure what to make of the Noah-fan situation, but anyway...
…I have to agree that refs played their part (as usual), and it seems like last year vs Cleveland all over again. We play good until refs take over and then we lose focus and stop executing and that’s that. Noah HAS to show up in the remaining games (unless he is suspended, which I would find a bit too much) and play the way he knows how to play and that’s giving us 35-40 minutes of fire, a double double and scores of blocks, steals, etc. Rose hasn’t been impressive either, so it’s no surprise we are down 2-0, but still have to harp on the refs, they deserve it, and I wish they would stope with the home cooking and call the games fair and square. I really thought after last season the ref BS would end. I guess it never ends.
I think Joakim was just frustrated and trying to do too much
Just calm down, play your position, don’t play out of your role and don’t try to take on too much. Joakim looked slightly panicky out there (and we are down 2-1, but its all the same).
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
I would be happy if it was like game 1
(other than the victory) They reffed well and and let the players play and aside from the 6 men on the court thing it was the best all year and called it right down the middle without superstar BS. Game 2 the reffed poorly on the 2nd quarter (when it seemed that the bulls had momentum) but they still had a chance. And all of game 3 was lots of “BS and WTF moments” While i can’t blame the refs for us losing since we had a chance in all of those games, but they made themselves known and clearly in game 3 it wasn’t called down the middle. Its just frustrating
'Don't believe in you who believe in me and don't believe in me who believes in you, but believe in you who believe in yourself'
Sometimes the best solution to a hard problem is the easiest one,
After the last 2 games we’re all worried and concerned. We’re all realizing our shortcomings and realizing the Heat’s greatness. Rose looks powerless, Thibs looks like he’s getting out coached by Riley, Noah is digressing, we got the best we may ever see Boozer while he’s under contract and it meant absolutely squat. It seems like we have no answers to stop anything. But here’s the one fact we have to remember….
The series is 2-1.. Not 3-0, not 2-0….2-1
The Heat have done their job and now it’s time for us to do ours. Nothing has changed, we need to get a win here and go home. Miami got beat by 20 and managed to get game 2. We got beat by 11 and we now have to do the same. We also have team that hasn’t lost 3 in a row all season. We win tomorrow, and we have a chance to go home and take the lead in this series. That’s the reality and that’s what we have to focus on.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
If we do win tomorrow I will be glad
and pissed at the same time because of those BS 4 day layoffs
'Don't believe in you who believe in me and don't believe in me who believes in you, but believe in you who believe in yourself'
Listen, I like the optimism but
the reason that I (and i assume others) am worried is because the Heat simply look like they have the Bulls all figured out, while the Bulls have no idea how to go at the Heat. The record thus far don’t matter at this point in my evaluation this series. The Heat appear to be the better team at this point and it sucks. If DRose can figure out the Heat and get off, that all changes, but I don’t see any reason to expect him to.
I hear ya
But until Miami wins tomorrow, I think this Bulls teams deserves the befit of the doubt. Yeah last night was a reality check, but no more of a reality check than Game 1 for the Heat. Difference is that they adjusted. Now it’s Thibs turn because the only adjustment in game 3 was to waste a whole qtr getting Carlos Boozer the ball. See how that worked out.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
If I were Thibs, I would tell Rose to rest up nicely cause he's gonna shoot 30+ times
Wed night. No more PnR’s, MIA’s defense is too quick and recovers to well. Every damn time Rose sees one man on him, no matter if its Bibby or James, it’s time top spread the fuck out and give him as much room as possible.
On the other end, no more sending help at Lebron. I’ve been against it since Thibs started that shit in Game 2 and it’s clearly not been working. He’s too good of a passer and will find the open man every damn time. Turn him into a scorer, it will help eliminate Bosh and force the Heat into more of an isolation team.
I haven't forgot Game 1,
but what he did in game 1 is tough for him to replicate, as he’s not a knockdown three point and deep 2 shooter. Also, Miami’s defense seems to have figured him out. Hopefully he can make an "adjustment,‘’ I just dont think its that likely. I’d LOVE to be wrong.
He was one of the best deep 2 shooters in the league last year, wasn't he?
Obviously that hasn’t carried over too well this season, but he still can explode from there.
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
I dont have the numbers in front of me and I forget what site I got them from,
but when I looked at them late in the season, he was worse from that area than he was last year. He still can make them, though, and it’s better than the alternative, which is passing.
I forgot I had hoopdata saved in my bookmarks.
According to hoopdata, Rose shot 44% on 6.9 attempts from 16-23 feet out. This year he’s 38% on 4.5 attempts. But he has increased his shot attempts from everywhere else except 10-15 feet.
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
I don't give a shit what Boozer's stat line looked like
He played horrible. Like Matt mentioned, off the top of my head, I think I remember Booz missing 5 layups (some and 1’s). His defense was pathetic as usual and allowed the Heat do do whatever they wanted to inside. Unlike Miami (with Bosh leading the game in scoring), I don’t think we have a chance in ny game this series with Boozer being our leading scorer. I’d much rather Taj have half the stat line Booze had with Taj’s impact on defense. Now you throw in Kyle’s desperation D, it’s like playing with one hand tied behund your back (Most of that has to do with Miami’s offense). We were able to get away with it against lesser teams of the league but not against these guys.
The only way we win this series (or even a game at this point) is to ride our best defensive lineups out there and frustrate the hell outta the Heat. Play Booz and Korver out for short stretches (doubt Thibs ever does it with Booz at this point) and ride Noah, Brewer, Deng and Gibson more. The longer you give Miami confidense, the more dangerous they get.
Also, I’m not one to throw the refs under the bus constantly like most here do, but that was one of the poorest officiated game I’ve seen all year. I’m still wondering what happened on that in bounds steal Deng took. You take Noah out of the game early on some questionable calls and now we’re hoping for Asik to help carry this team for a long stretch. Noah is and will always be the heart and soul of this team.
As for the trash talking, I’m into it. Bulls aren’t getting frustrated with the Heat. I think the ego of the team has grown into thinking this team is clearly better than Miami. It may not get into Miami’s head (I really don’t know or care) but the Bulls clearly hate this Heat team as much as we all do and instead of us screaming at the TV, they’re able to scream it at the Heat’s players.
I don’t think this is homerism really, but I’m so damn confident we take game 4. I give Miami tons of credit on defense so far but I can’t see this team playing so poorly for game 4. Asik’s injury is a huge question mark but maybe this plays Thomas finally (Which I really think could be a great thing this series).
Cliff notes version: Boozer, Korver and Bogans are killing us. Bulls win game 4. Shit talk all fucking day, just back it up. New refs please. More xanax needed
by Option27 on May 23, 2011 3:00 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Ya, Boozer looked great, but should have been better
True of Rose a bit too, but mostly Boozer. He had some easy chipshots missed early. If he is going to be effective, he has to hit plenty of shots to negate his poor defense.
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
The missed layups on those could been and 1s were demoralizing.
Defensively he always sucks anyways.
If he could just give us decent production on 20-25 minutes a game I’d be pleased and live with it. Yesterday the foul trouble led to him being in what felt like most of the game.
"After Game 1, they made me and Joe’s life a living hell." - Jamal Crawford
This is a tough loss to stomach
The refs were terrible in the first half, but the Bulls stayed close and in the end could not pull away. I am starting to worry about Thibs here. I realize the focus in on defense and I agree it should be, but at least make smart offensive choices. There are some very simple things he could be doing to alleviate pressure off Derrick Rose and to open things up for others. First, stop setting isolated high screens for Rose. All this does is force the ball out of your best players hands. I would love to see a pass into the high post to Boozer and then Noah (or someone else) setting a flare screen for Rose. This would get Rose open on the wing with room and possibly isolated against a big man defener. Rose can drive and kick or drive and finish at that point. If the D starts overplaying, Noah simply slips the screen for the easy high low layup. Bottom line, run Rose off the ball with screens, but enough of the high screen roll. Furthermore, if Wade is guarding Korver, run him around as many screens as possible. The more Wade has to run through screens, the better. I just don’t get Thibs insistance to take the ball out of his best player’s hand by bringing the double team to him. And if you are going to do this, keep Noah as the one setting screens since he is the better passer (6ast, mostly on those 4 on 3 situations created by the high screen). I am not saying Rose should not be the PG, but run him off ball more and stop bringing the double team to him.
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
Im not buying this BS that the Bulls don't have the offense to beat the Heat.
Look at what they done in the regular season. I mean come on 62 win team doesn’t only win on defense. What I do believe is that we are choking big time. I still have faith that they can pull through. Maybe im just a naive Bulls fan.
They do have good offense.
Sometimes they just have bad shooting nights.
We don't have bad offense, but...
Can we keep up with a full throttle Heat team? That’s the issue. If Rose’s jumper isn’t falling or we aren’t hitting 3’s, this is a blelow average offense.
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
Well you can say the same about OKC.
On Saturday when they were missing their usual shots they were down by nearly 20+ and by the time their shots finally started going in it was too late.
The Phoenix Suns won over 60 games with only offense...Just sayin
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
We had some type of balance during the regular season.
Now it is gone. I know the playoffs are a different level, but the Bulls are just choking. Its a mental lapse that they need to overcome.
by PrinceTarmac on May 23, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
D'Antoni for assistant coach!
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by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
You realize...
The playoffs are completely different during the regular season. And not just because of the cliche; there are no back to back in the playoffs and in this series there were three games in between games for each coach to make adjustments and install their game plans.
With the relatively quick turnarounds the rest of the series, the Bulls coaching advantage should help the team to overcome what Miami is doing well. I know its not popular around here, but the Heat played a better defensive game than the Bulls last night.
7 for 7.
I think we pick and roll really well with Asik
he sets really good screens. he can hold back 3 players with one shoulder.
Thibs got his team a chemistry set for Christmas
by livesinnoahsbasement on May 23, 2011 3:09 PM CDT reply actions
I'm gonna say this
The winner of tomorrows game wins the series. If the Heat win, the Bulls won’t be coming back from down 3-1, and if the Bulls win, it’s a 3 game series with 2 games in Chicago. No way we lose at the UC twice in 1 series.
never forget...
1.7%
anything is possible...
by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 3:33 PM CDT reply actions
either incorrect, or a 'prediction'
I hate both!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 23, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
What if it's correct?
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1.7%
anything is possible...
by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
a correct prediction? it'll be a gif party, so who gives a fuck what you said
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 23, 2011 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll post the perenial
“I was right” GIF.
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anything is possible...
by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, it could be tough coming back from 3-1, but you'd think it would take 7 OT's for the Heat to win tmrw.
As much as I hate the Heat and think they are overrated and hyped, they are still better than the Pacers and Hawks, so it’s not gonna be simple to just ok, let’s win tomorrow and we win the series. Yes the defense is nice from the team, but you have to make baskets and keep plugging away, that’s how they’ve done it all season! They don’t need to score 110pts to win, but executing in the 4th quarter would be nice, and they need to keep their cool and focus. If you start worrying about what Bosh, of all people, is saying or doing, then you are definitely not in the game and that could be dangerous, if it isn’t already.
I don't care about the expectations we had at the start of this season
But losing to the Heat in the playoffs was probably the most depressing thing anyone could have come up with.
never forget...
1.7%
anything is possible...
by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Amen
I didn’t expect to be as good as the Bulls have been, nor did I expect the Lakers, Celtics, Spurs and Magic to drop like they did.
Having said that, I could not think of a worse possible outcome to the season if we lose to the Heat in a best of 7. I’m with Bill Simmons on this one, the Heat winning goes against everything I’ve ever learned about basketball, including every basketball coach I had.
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
Yeah I really thought the Bulls could take them this year, it's not over but getting trampled like this
I didn’t think it would happen.
Well, just saw that Joakim was fined 50k.
Not bad, considering ol’ Skippy Bayless thought or suggested it would be more than what Kobe got. I think it’s fair though, and Joakim is an honest guy and he apologized right away. He isn’t full of himself, which I respect a lot.
I know Wilbon kept saying...
all year that when the Heat get stuck playing a real defense, that this whole iso thing isn’t going to work anymore. That they’d have to run a “real offense” with real offensive sets. Well, they’re playing the best defense in the league, and I think the iso is working out pretty snazilly.
Oh well.
Sorrrrrry, Noah fans
I called this 2 years ago when the Bulls decided to trade Gray and keep this punk.
He moves when he pic.
He jumps around, never holding down the important inside position.
He has no body and is unable to hold the inside.
I watched the game last night.
I saw at LEAST 4 rebounds where Noah was under the basket and SHOULD have gotten the rebound, but somehow was insistant on getting downcourt fast. This cost the Bulls.
He simply cannot be you championship sized center.
This makes for season game wins, but NEVER will a champion have a week center like Noah.
He can pump his chest and rant like an angry ape all he wants…he cannot hold up in playoff games.
The Bulls made a decision…keep the fast runnaround Noah and give up the power inside Gray.
Enjoy the regular season fake out wins, but get over championship dreams
Good Luck with this.
by ppellico on May 23, 2011 5:55 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
I gotta simply rec this cause it's by far the funniest/stupid thing I read on here in a long long time.
by Option27 on May 23, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
dude ur name makes me lol lmao and smh all at the same time
The NBA Playoffs - always the best reminder why Joakim Noah is my fav Bull
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 23, 2011 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I definitely laughed, lol
and I’m still grinning
by Stacey_Is_King on May 23, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, so you're like that dude who warned us all that Thabo was going to haunt our dreams and shit.
The dreams of Aaron Gray starting with the Bulls died with Red.
by Ozzie Montana on May 23, 2011 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Pep talk time!
Although I’ll be the first to admit the level of my depression yesterday and today was quite high, I’ve finally talked myself off the ledge haha…
You guys, this is our team. Regardless of what people say – they won 62 games. I don’t care that it was regular season and playoffs are different..blah, blah blah. It’s not really about that. It’s about the fact that this team works hard and they have it in them. This is the #1 ranked NBA team this year – that’s not so easy to accomplish. It’s in them, I know it’s there, they just have to bring it. People are talking all this crap about Drose and Noah and the whole team in general..ok really people? Rose is 22 years old, has ALL eyes on him as the MVP, his first legit trip to the ECF, on top of the WHOLE town depending on him for a win…what 22 year old wouldn’t stumble?? Cut him some slack, he will come through.
I am amazed to see how quickly everyone wrote the bulls off after just 2 losses to an extremely talented basketball team (it’s not like this was the Bucks or anything). After Game 1, people were saying “bulls will sweep, bulls in 4” and now it is “Bulls are done” Really guys?? After 2 losses? Have faith in your team! Since no one from the media has faith, as fans, we at least owe that to the Bulls. Isn’t this what separates REAL fans from bandwagon fans? We gotto support them through wins and loses. People are acting like Miami has already won 4 games. Until the bulls officially lose the ECF, they are not done!
We don’t want the Bulls giving up, do we? So why would we give up on this team? Just look back and see what we have accomplished thus far. This team is GOOD..let’s just relax and hope they show up to be the team that we have watched all season.
GO BULLS!
Im a die hard Bulls fan and gonna ride it out till the end.
Win or lose im still proud of this team this year. Go Bulls!
by PrinceTarmac on May 23, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
::thumbs down:: ::fart sound::
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 23, 2011 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Tomorrow is a must win..
and so is the next one, and the next one. And we’re good.
Thibs got his team a chemistry set for Christmas
by livesinnoahsbasement on May 23, 2011 6:20 PM CDT reply actions
I can't stand this feeling much longer
I don’t think I could handle a loss tomorrow. It would shatter me.
I just feel like there’s no way we lose. Just won’t happen. Just can’t!
by Option27 on May 23, 2011 6:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
My gut tells me DRose is gonna bust out in a big way but my brain tells me he won't.
I just hate this anticipation and not knowing what will happen. In football you get nervous for a game and three hours later its over. Now stretch that feeling over a two week period, possibly longer. This sucks.
HOLD STRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The NBA Playoffs - always the best reminder why Joakim Noah is my fav Bull
Exactly my thoughts
Last night to me was kinda “Meh, we’ll get them on Tuesday.” Mainly because I THOUGHT that we would lose yesterday and win tomorrow. If we don’t win tomorrow, there’s gonna be issues. The team we watched all year won’t go down like this, but the team we’ve watched in the playoffs (minus maybe 4 games) would.
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anything is possible...
by wrigleyrocker12 on May 23, 2011 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'm trying to disconnect myself a little here
I took that game 2 loss extremely hard. Since then I’m trying to keep things in perspective a little and not get too high or low. I just love our team so much, and hate those fuckers so much that it’s leading to these wild emotional swings. I’m trying to stay away from basketball altogether on off days
The Playoffs: That magical time of year when I become a fan of every team that Lebron James isn't playing for.
by Juiceboxjerry on May 24, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Bulls looked MUCH worse against Indy, Atlanta
The last game, we did well against Bron-Bron and Wade. We only lost by 10, and we shot well from 3, and rebounded well, and really, Bosh isnt going to keep shooting that well, and neither is Haslem. Also, somewhere I saw the insertion of Korver late cost us a 9 point swing.
So: We play our D lineup, we shoot more threes (Deng, please shoot ;-) ) , and we body up Bosh some more to disrupt his shooting, and we should be fine. Remember, we blew them out in game 1- its still in us.
we gotta come out and punch these heats in the mouth!
MAKE THEM CRY DAMNIT!!!!
by #1humblebot on May 23, 2011 7:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Anyone ever notice
A team where one of their players makes a ridiculous posterizing dunk on someone usually lose that series or the following series?
"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw
"I'm undefeated too I'm 100-0 by beating up innocent little boys in my hood like Floyd" - Random dude
"Attention Boxing Fans: Mayweather will fight Pacquiao this coming November.. its confirmed.. Bobby should train hard to beat Floyd."
what in the hell are you talking about?
17'$ h4pp3n1n9!?!?!?
by lexmarklover on May 23, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
That's just odd.
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
Probably shouldn't be re-watching this game but
I’m only in the 2nd quarter but there are already a lot of bad calls that have gone against the Bulls.
Rose was fouled at least 2 times in the 1st quarter alone (maybe a 3rd time) & all would have been shooting fouls.
Deng did not foul Lebron on that 3 point attempt (in the 1st qtr).
Thought it was a good call live but on that Boozer charge in the 2nd qtr that Haslem drew, Haslem’s foot was all the way in the circle, should have been a block. Boozer should have taken the wide open he had tho. Btw, the ref that’s makes the call isn’t even looking at where Haslem was. Just watched Boozer “charge” into him and automatically signals it that way.
Fuck Jason Phillips.
The more I think about it, I think the NBA wants us to come back to win the series
Keep the Heat hungry. Next game is a must-win for the NBA, so I think we’ll get some calls. 3-2 going back to miami would be serious drama.
i watched that boozer charge like 5 times when it happened
such ridiculous bullshit
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Sorry for replying to myself but
wanted to sort of comment on all those that replied.
cubbybear – I don’t know. That sounds all well and good but I’ll believe it if I see it. This is the 2nd game in a row were the Heat benefited from some suspect calls.
Option – Especially since it’s the most recent one. Game 2, in the first few minutes of the 2nd qtr, was honestly the worst I’ve seen in quite some time. And it was all one ref. Basically helped the Heat get back into the game.
Jaina – Yea it was a BS call (because it was wrong). I’m not mad that it was called because it honestly looked like a charge. But the circle was created to avoid these things like that happening. One ref should have seen it.
It’s just so frustrating to watch as a fan. I know people like to say the players have to “play through” it but I’m sure it’s really tough. It seemed to have gotten to Noah in game 3 and in the 4th Boozer looked really frustrated in the 4th when Steve Javie was explaining another foul call that had been called against the Bulls.
Fuck Jason Phillips.
Noah is argueably the Bulls 2nd best player. He MUST play like it.
Where is that dominant player from before his injury? Bulls need THAT guy to show up.
News flash: Luol Deng is good...We now return you to your regularly scheduled hating...
that was his ceiling and hes never hitting it again
shouldve pawned him off in the summer.
hes sure as hell not netting dwight
The quest for seven is on.
He’s 26 years old and hasn’t suffered any kind of career threatening injury.
That may have been his peak, but it was a pretty damn good one. I see no reason he can’t play like that ever again, even if he never gets any better than that. If he’s an efficient double-double machine with very good defense, we’ll beat the Heats.
I’m not really concerned with Dwight right now, but the only way we’d get him is if he insisted that Chicago is THE place he wants to play. Because of his size and “upside” Bynum would no doubt be Orlando’s first choice as the center they’d want to get back in a Howard trade, even if Noah was playing well.
News flash: Luol Deng is good...We now return you to your regularly scheduled hating...
Just wanted to clean some things up
@T.Moore: what makes heat fans worse than Philly fans and why don’t we deserve a team. I want to understand the logic that all heat fans are bandwagon fans. Just how many hear fans do you personally know to make that judgment? The heat is a really young franchise, like 23 years young. It takes a while to build a strong loyal fan base. I am 36 and grew up going to games at the old Miami arena watching such obscure name like John Sunvold, Roy Sparrow, Pat Cummings, Rony Seikly, Grant Long, and my all time favorite Allan Ogg trying to compete against the C’s. Then came Pat Reily and the Alonzo Mourning and Tim Hardaway era with all those battles against the Knicks, winning division championships only to be bounced usually by the Knicks and the one year we got past them MJ and Scottie killed us. In short, the bandwagon stereotype is bullshit to real fans like me.
@chicity773: I watch a show on NBA tv occasionally and it’s about officiating and why certain calls are made or not made. The boozer charge was legit. Apparently, there is an imaginary box that extends to about the freethrow line. If you receive an entry pass inside of that box, it doesn’t matter if the defensive player is inside the restricted area. This is only on an entry pass caught inside of this imaginary box. This is why it was called a charge instead of a blocking foul. Look it up if you don’t believe me. Its a rule that I was unfamiliar with to. The show also covers stuff like a gather step and it may look like a player took 3 or 3 1/2 steps on a catch when driving to the basket. I’m got gonna say the refs are totally competent or non bias, but they are far more competent and non bias than we are as fans. These people are paid to have more knowledge of the rules of the game then we are and it would be far fetched to say that they have an alligence to one team over another.
@ all bulls fans: I think you have a really nice team. Boozer wanted to come to Miami and we were not interested because of his defensive liabilities. Rose is tremendous and reminds me a lot of Allen Iverson. I hope for your sake he has more success than Iverson did. He needs more quality shots. Volume shooters never make good leaders. Love Taj Gibson and I want him on my team. What ever happens with the rest of this series (heat in 6) one team or the other will run into a buzz saw in the Mavs. Dirk is playing at a ridiculous level, their bench is incredible and Kid is playing like he’s 28, not 38. We just might be playing for second place.
first...lessonedlearned in life
Never try toargue with a mass madness.
It takes hold like a fire through dry woods and fields.
Just get the hell out of the way.
So it goes with blind fans.
Don’t go there with Thebo…he was a fav of mine and still wish he were a Bull.
I spent thousands of dollars every year sitting at row 5 section 110.
I KNOW Bulls basketball.
Noah is a punk and always will be a punk.
He cusses worse than any other player after every failed attempt or what he perceves was a foul on him.
This is a sign of a punk and an immature manchild.
So give him all your love.
But don’t think there are a few bball thinkers out here that know better.
Look at the last 7 championship NBA teams.
Show me one where the inside wasn’t large and overpowering.
Um…there isn’t one.
Basketball has 2 seasons.
The regular one where you play mostly your conference and a softer game.
THEN come the playoffs. A brutal and hard faught INSIDE game.
Cry babies go home.
PS... I HATE Miami!
Miami winning to me is allowing the horrible KING to show his self love and manipulation of the league was OK.
NOT acceptable.
I want the Bulls to win, since I spent all my life at the old stadium and now the United Center.
My flag is STLL at hal;f Mast from the passing of VanLier.
Bob Love and Sloan were GODS to me….
But I do NOT like Noah or what he stands for.
He needs to go.
Miami also has NO center....
This is a hope for the Bulls.

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