Bulls take down Celtics with usual formula: Rose lights up, Defense shuts down
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 7, 2011 11:34 PM CDT
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Print| Celtics vs Bulls boxscore | Pace | Eff | eFG | FT/FG | OREB% | TOr |
| Boston | 85.0 | 95.3 | 39.7% | 31.5 | 18.6 | 12.9 |
| Chicago | 114.1 | 53.2% | 17.9 | 25.0 | 14.1 |
With the Bulls having now all but locked up the #1 seed, it's likely they'll never see the Celtics again this season, especially after seeing how inept their offense looked against the Bulls tonight. We know the C's have had problems since their injuries and trade-deadline moves (and the loss of Kendrick Perkins has sorta overshadowed the bigger problem, which is Jeff Green stinks), but they better hope things are getting better for them, as the Bulls were able to completely shut them down in the 2nd half.
It was an interesting run in that half: the Bulls had started out hot but a couple lax moments in transition forced a Thibs timeout, and he subbed in Kurt Thomas and Ronnie Brewer for Noah and Bogans. That group stayed in for most of the rest of the game, which could be telling in a few ways as we start to learn Thibodeau's possible playoff rotations:
- It could mean the 'bench mob' may be on a show-me basis. It's been a curiosity to figure how a team with a true 10-deep roster would adjust to the usual shorter rotations of the playoffs. In the first half the bench unit had a rare stint where they let a lead slip away (Boston's bench is pretty deep it's own right), and it was not seen again in the 2nd half until the game had already been decided.
- Could mean Kurt Thomas may be the go-to playoff backup center over Omer Asik. Thomas only had 2 points and 5 rebounds in his 19 minutes, but his impact on the defense was obvious in that 2nd half, and his ability to demoralize Big Baby Davis was a nice touch too. We've seen Thibodeau go to Thomas first if subs are needed early, as he likes to see Asik in with the entire bench unit, but if Thomas is playing well he'll stay in. I do worry there will be a time where even when he's not playing well he'll stay in, and that's now 2 straight games of under 6 minutes played for Asik.
- Could mean Joakim Noah is still hurt. This is apparent regardless of any possible eye at the playoff rotations, as Noah was getting pulled earlier than normal in his stints and didn't play the entire 4th quarter. Both KC Johnson and Kelly Dwyer tweeted from press row that they could see Noah working on that ankle during the game.
And to that last point, with Noah still looking slowed, and therefore no real progress on the Noah+Boozer front, the Bulls still absolutely dominated a fellow top-tier Eastern Conference team.
Along with a lack of Boozer+Noah dividends, another worrisome aspect over the recent stretch had been slow starts. That did not happen in tonight's game, mostly due to Derrick Rose. He had 10 first quarter points and started off his highlight-laden performance with this crossover on Rajon Rondo, and later in the first half threw in this impossibly-angled floater.
Listing other contributors starts with Luol Deng, overcoming early foul trouble to outscore his long-time rival Paul Pierce (seriously!) 23-15, Keith Bogans had two 3-pointers in his initial stint to help the hot start, Carlos Boozer had a brief spurt of dominance in the 2nd half against the C's backup bigs...but this offense was nearly all Derrick Rose tonight. He finished with 30 points on 16 shots, insanely efficient, and he still could (scarily) have been even better considering some of the 3-pointers he attempted. 8 assists, 5 rebounds, 2 steals, and the halftime highlight package from Mike Fratello focused on him setting a screen.
And yet, even considering all his brilliance (and placed alongside Rondo's opposite-of-brilliance, made to look even that much better), Rose still saw the Celtics hanging in close for much of the 3rd quarter. It was a game that felt better watching that the score indicated. But the Bulls have more than one star, and it was the defense that put the game out of reach. The Celtics couldn't run at all, matched their best playmakers (Pierce and the KG fadeaway) well, and looked completely stifled at points while they stared at a Davis 20 footer.
And some of that was indeed the Celtics just looking bad. Is it something that the Bulls can expect that often in the playoffs when going against these higher-level opponents? Not likely to that magnitude (and I know we all like to make fun of Rajon Rondo, but...actually that's it, we like to make fun of Rondo, and he was terrible), but the Bulls have some things to work on themselves that can get them even better.
And looking great right now isn't the goal, anyway. The #1 seed was, and attaining it so early not only gives them the final week of the season but also a gimme first round to better figure out Noah+Boozer, playoff rotations, and finding Rose some consistent offensive help. Make this domination of the Celtics seem like ain't no thing.
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It was nice to see Boozer score some in the 4th.
I feel like since he’s come back, he’s disappeared in the fourth.
i love being number one
say hows the view down there?!!!
"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"
by sin on Apr 7, 2011 11:41 PM CDT reply actions 12 recs
^and speaking of that play
i was kinda scared we didnt have a guy who wouldnt be afraid to rough up the more physical teams in the playoffs or that we could use to throw a hard foul at a team if things got testy but damn watching kurt lay them out tonight was awesome.
hell bogans was doing it too.
"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"
Totally agree
That was the thing that impressed me the most. We were just physical as fuck. It was so great to see
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 7, 2011 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
I saw a comment on ESPN of all places that the Bulls manhandled the Celtics and to me that was huge in getting the victory. Seems like Thomas learned well from his early years of going up against guys like Rodman.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 8, 2011 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions
That's the reason those guys are on the team.
And of they wack a guy and get ejected does it really set us back? Think about it.
"Shit just got real" - anorexorcist.
There was an interview with Bogans a couple weeks ago...
Where he basically chuckled at being asked what he thinks about the Blogosphere being so critical of him. He basically said, look, I’m not trying to be an offensive star — I’m in the starting lineup to do a very specific job.
Almost hate saying it, but in that sense he is growing on me. He knows his place, he hits the occasional 3, he plays lights-out defense on some of the league’s best, and tonight — well, he really impressed me. He was playing rough. He and Big Sexy let it be known that there are Bulls with horns and they’ll use them (while keeping our key starters from getting unnecessary fouls).
ASIK AND DESTROY
by JStymie on Apr 8, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 10 recs
Even Rick Mahorn had his place on teams.lol
Tired of you Deng haters...sigh. Here to show Deng and the Bulls some love!
by ChiTownBallz on Apr 8, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
im on
team keef
"4 inches, baby!" --ripped off from Kush
1/27/11 - The day the nerdosphere and their stats jumped the shark, trying to use them to disprove the obvious.
by anorexorcist on Apr 8, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree we were the aggressors against an aggressive team.
Tired of you Deng haters...sigh. Here to show Deng and the Bulls some love!
by ChiTownBallz on Apr 8, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
That's like the one reason why I like having Bogans on the team.
He’s a dude you do NOT want to mess with.
What you just said is pretty much all he's ever done, his entire career.
He’s a low down, dirty player. He doesn’t have a mean streak, his life is one.
And damn do I love him for it. Yes, even when he’s being a punk and standing over Glen Davis like a school yard bully.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
I thought he was waiting for him to get up so he could punch him.
Like an old school fighting mentality to never hit a fighter on his knees. Get up son so I can pop your fat ass.
According to Freidell, Big Sexy told Big Baby that he had a better knickname.
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
by The Voiss on Apr 8, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Good stuff.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
Coolest thing ever
Big Kirk walked away, and the TNT cams caught him mouthing “..dumb mother fucker”
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
by DocPepper on Apr 8, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now that the spurs have won the west
Will they sit their older players & should bulls go all out for #1 overall record or rest our starters down the stretch once we clinch.
by #1humblebot on Apr 7, 2011 11:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I think with the Bulls coach....
There is no question the starters will continue to play regular minutes for the Bulls. The #1 overall seed is within reach. And with that, the 30th pick in the draft.
Until we get a tagline, yfbb=your friendly Bogans blogger.
I think they'll go for it
Not so sure they should, though. Not sure what the magic number is for the Lakers, but don’t forget we have to stay ahead of them too
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 7, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
The Lakers are back 3 games in the loss column.
I think we’ll stay ahead of them.
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
We're ahead of everyone but SanAn.
Clinched 1st seed in the East. MN(SAS): 5 MN(Bos): 0 MN(LAL): 0 MN(Mia): 0 MN(Orl): 0
I think it will be a mix.
I doubt if anybody sits out a whole game (except maybe Noah, for his ankle), but maybe they don’t play as long in them, and the second unit gets more burn. I’d especially like to see that with Deng — dude needs some time off.
This is a thing...
The Bulls just beat their nearest rival in the East by double digits…Jermaine O’neal said before the game it was not about the victory, it was about the statement…well, I ask, what statement was made?
This team is heading to the finals.
Until we get a tagline, yfbb=your friendly Bogans blogger.
can you imagine what a finals crowd might be filled with?
how many of the old guys would come back for that to cheer this team on
i can imagine mj in the house along with scottie
and then the president making an appearance too.
"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"
so Bulls fan-y
first thought is about M.Jeff
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 7, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry i see the #23 in the corner everytime i come to this site
"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"
by sin on Apr 7, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I swear you're dan bernstein, sometimes.
by obnoxious american on Apr 8, 2011 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions
If he starts giving cooking tips, I'm looking for a new blog
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 8, 2011 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Or telling us that we're fat while ordering gobs of McDonald's.
"What do you think, I just dunked my whole career?" Jordan asked Henderson after making a 3.
"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
"That’s what Cleveland said," replied Jordan
I'd rather the ghosts of Norm and Red come back and haunt Rondo.
Jordan can take his shitty ass suits and hide in the box while Pip chills with that weird white dude.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 7, 2011 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
hey he brings his wife to reward the team sometimes
"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"
yeah, I've been wondering where Bill Murray's been at...
Cheer with Confidence, BaBers
by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 7, 2011 11:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
or he's posing as a zombie...
Cheer with Confidence, BaBers
by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 8, 2011 1:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The only way I could be any happier right now is if Lebron's mom got arrested
Wait a minute…
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 7, 2011 11:46 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
as a lifelong fan of the Wu, I love your sig
as an adult, I still get called Wu-Tang by my friends.
Cheer with Confidence, BaBers
by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 8, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking about this during the game.
if the Heat and Celts play in the playoffs, the Boston crowd really should jump on that. I think it’d be hilarious.
Cheer with Confidence, BaBers
by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 7, 2011 11:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
but delonte might lose it
"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"
by sin on Apr 7, 2011 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
that would be too disrespectful
call him a prick, a bitch for skipping town, but to attack his mother is just crossing the line.
by Slick Ric on Apr 8, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
delonte did it
he attacked it good
"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"
by sin on Apr 8, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
Heyyyyyyyyyoooooooooo
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 8, 2011 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions
To be fair to the Celtics,
LeBron’s mom has already tried to rush the court once already.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 8, 2011 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions
She prob used her one call in jail on Lebron
thats the only ring he will ever get in Miami.
Did you guys hear about the new Lebron James Iphone?
You have to keep it on vibrate because it has no rings.
by Rudey on Apr 8, 2011 2:54 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
That story was actually kind of sad and made me lose respect for LBJ yet again.
The only comment I’ve seen from LBJ about it is “I can’t let distractions bother me right now. It’s a situation that’s being handled.”
I mean, under just about any other situation, I get what he’s saying — but damn, that’s your mom, dude.
ASIK AND DESTROY
He said a lot more than that...
The Chicago Bulls....have a young star, Derrick Rose, who must learn to live with the tearing down of his MVP candidacy as rapidly as he constructed it. - Woj
Yep he took 6 questions about her before telling them to move on.
He said it was a private matter. Difficult to handle. I can’t fault him for the way he handled it.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 8, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
haven't been able to post lately cuz of work craziness, but...
D-Rose is the MAN!!!!!!! seriously, if you can’t just watch and see that pretty much every night he’s the best player on the floor, then why watch. go become a beancounter if you like to see numbers move on a spreadsheet.
Lebron MIGHT be the best player in the league (i’ve still always preferred Wade), but this season, THIS SEASON, Rose is doing more for his team.
…Ronda…
Cheer with Confidence, BaBers
by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 7, 2011 11:49 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I'd just like to point out that I've made it to the big time.
https://twitter.com/#!/paulgp
My Favorite @BullsBlogger comment on SBN: “NBA Wired: @CBoozTheBull – GIMME THAT SANDWICH. GRAB THAT DRY CLEANING. NICE HUSTLE CAB DRIVER!”
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 7, 2011 11:49 PM CDT reply actions 10 recs
You deserve it for that!
I only post cotton candy. Because it's delicious.
espnchijon jon greenberg
Garnett on Rose: “They’re not chanting MVP for nothing.”
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 7, 2011 11:54 PM CDT reply actions 9 recs
The Bulls beat guy for ESPN Chicago interviewed him yesterday and he was giving tons of props.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 8, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Garnett respects teams and player that work hard and take nothing for granted.
And you got to hand it to the bulls, they are a workman’s team, they’ve adopted Thibs mentality to perfection. Old fashioned, hard nosed basketball based on tough physical defense, ball movement, and a team mentality.
Basically, they’re the Celtics, in Red jerseys, and significantly younger.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
by Sizzlack on Apr 8, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know you mean it as a compliment, but I still wish you wouldn't say things like that.
Basically, they’re the Celtics, in Red jerseys, and significantly younger.
Pat Riley is the devil.
no worries, this sizzlack is wack
thibs and the defense are the sole similarities
scalabrineholiinger runs everything. fuck scalabrinehollinger!
Props to management for not freaking out and making a trade at the deadline
Taj is a monster. Not to mention Lu, Ronnie, Big Sexy. We’re just getting some great play all around. I love watching these guys play
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 7, 2011 11:55 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
props for not listening to me and going after melo
(although noah’s nagging injuries are starting to trouble me but deng’s been too awesome)
"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"
::I have seen the PROMISED Land::
He took his what to where?!
He certainly has been.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 8, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Yo quick Q
i just bought tickets to game 4 of the 1st round.. i mean if everything goes as planned we will play indiana.. so its at conseco .. but yea do you guys have an idea when gane 4 will be? i was thinking april 20 sumin
Cutler and Rose are bringing back Chicago sports.
He said game 4 of the first round...
Which would be played in Indiana…Game 7 of the first round would be played in Chicago.
Until we get a tagline, yfbb=your friendly Bogans blogger.
I am betting he bought Game 4 of the First Round from the Bulls
Which is the 4th playoff games.
Unless he bought tickets from the Pacers, he has tickets to Game 7 at the United Center.
You may be right...
But that was not what was stated…In any event, I am pissed that I have to buy tickets from Stub Hub instead of buying season tickets in July when offered.
Until we get a tagline, yfbb=your friendly Bogans blogger.
I read between the lines
I am a season-ticket holder, so I figured that’s what he meant. I could be wrong though. Maybe he did buy from the Pacers. If you want to go see the Bulls in the first round, probably cheaper to buy from the Pacers and go to Conseco.
Actually,..
That is a good tip…I should look into game four or six tickets…because I totally got shut out of good seats for the playoffs in Chicago…
Until we get a tagline, yfbb=your friendly Bogans blogger.
No doubt...
I am totally gonna look into this option….
Until we get a tagline, yfbb=your friendly Bogans blogger.
damn right
i was at the Bulls sweep of Miami in ‘07. started a "let’s go bulls!" chant in the stairs with other Bulls fans while exiting the arena. surreal.
Cheer with Confidence, BaBers
by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 8, 2011 1:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I got game 4 tickets.. in indiana .. hoping for a sweep...
it was ALOT cheaper
Cutler and Rose are bringing back Chicago sports.
by Faizamaze on Apr 8, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
the more bulls fans the merrier!
i wanna hear MVP chants
Cutler and Rose are bringing back Chicago sports.
Wow
That is pretty cheap. Sounds like good seats too. Anything in the 200 level is going to be well over $200/seat in Chicago.
its a little different 200 level is like 300 level... its weird you gotta check out the seating chart
Cutler and Rose are bringing back Chicago sports.
but i tried to get it from pacers.com, they have this thing where you cant get tickets for the first 72 hours uness you are an indiana resident
Cutler and Rose are bringing back Chicago sports.
exactly.. i hate these ticket brokers in chicago..
they ruin it for us
Cutler and Rose are bringing back Chicago sports.
Wow
I just tried to buy 2 best available in Indiana. 2 seats courtside near the free throw line, 4th row. Only $245 a seat.
If I could go to those games, I would seriously consider pulling the trigger on those.
Stubhub will refund you for any games not played
by JSB on Apr 8, 2011 1:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
My question is about the two guard..
I like Bogans but I would like him as a bench player next season if they were to bring him back. Anyone know if the Bulls will be able to get a scoring 2 guard like JR Smith? Rose is going to need some help. They can’t expect him to play like this each season.
I was just about to say something about that
What do you guys think of Leandro Barbosa?
by macjack09 on Apr 8, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like him, he also seems like a great 'locker room' guy.
i watched a doco on him , he looks like a hard worker and all round nice guy.
Lu-Deng Clan Aint Nuttin ta Fuck Wit !
I've been watching him for awhile
And I’ve been impressed with him. I don’t know how he would be as a starter, and he is only sub par on defense, I think the later can be solved by Thibs.
i don't see the fit with him
Don’ think he could start for us, so why bother
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 8, 2011 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions
i just don't think he's a starting caliber player on a good team
Sure, I guess he could be a nice third guard, but is it really worth it when we appear to have a pretty nice thing going as is?
The next move almost has to be for a starting sg. Unless it’s some sort of crazy trade for Dwight Howard
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 8, 2011 2:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I dream about a Howard trade.
Having Rose and Howard together…man that would be something. It’s hard to think we could get him though without giving up everyone else on the team and it being a Kobe trade situation as we had before.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 8, 2011 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
While we are on the topic...
Does anyone know if there is going to be a season next season?
Until we get a tagline, yfbb=your friendly Bogans blogger.
chad ford or one of the espn guys i forget exactly who
tweeted the other day that hes been getting emphatic ‘yes’ from all the gm’s hes talking to when he asks if theres a good chance of the entire season being lost
and i think it was on the nba today podcast during last week sometime that someone mentioned that it sounds like the negotiations are a lot further apart than the nfl ones are and look at how that one is already going
"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"
They were super negative leading up to last CBA and it ended up getting done...
but then again Stern is having a hard time negotiating with referees…
Fire those refs, they suck anyway
…
But I wonder if the Bulls win if that doesn’t piss on Sterns argument. Everybody knows JR makes money
by JustAnotherFan on Apr 8, 2011 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Signing Darko Milicic for $20 million
and Joe Johnson for $126 million, etc, pisses on Stern’s argument.
by kozzer on Apr 8, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
God, if professional veteran refs suck, what do you expect from replacement refs?
We might as well let the players call their own fouls.
Kobe, Wade, Lebron...
pretty much are already calling their own fouls.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 8, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
heres whats going to happen
we sweep the lakers.
phil quits.
kobe goes on rage spree. demands trade
we work out deal that sends boozer to lakers for kobe
start omer and noah so no one can ever score on us
"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"
afflalo (unlikely?) or wilson chandler?
or chandler is an SF?
chandler would be PERRRRRRRRFECT
but hes a RFA and with the new cba coming and all that i doubt we get him
"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"
Chandler's not a SG though
imo
Afflalo/Mayo > Lee > Smith/Richardson > Carter
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
why cant he be one?
hes played sg for denver and ny both.
and i was 100% convinced of him being able to play sg after last sunday and the job he did on kobe defensively.
he can guard 2’s and hes good enough that he can hit the open 3. plus hes pretty athletic and can put the ball on the floor and create somewhat
"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"
yeah, he can guard the good SGs
and make shots and create. that’s good enough for me. screw conventional thought. he and Deng as wing defenders would be fucking awesome. maybe a better fit than Iguodala given the lower paycheck and better shooting. not saying he’s better than Iggy, but we might be able to realistically get and afford him.
by M 80 on Apr 8, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"maybe a better fit than Iguodala given the lower paycheck and better shooting."
Agreed — and he’d likely be cheaper, too.
Afflalo definitely.
He’s incredible, but either of those players and the Bulls have the best team in the east by 7 games.
by JockstrapNoah on Apr 8, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
JR Smith????
Tell me you’re not serious???
by 3ptace on Apr 8, 2011 11:01 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
In retrospect...
I wish Deng would have kicked Bogans instead of the way it happened.
Not that I hate Bogans, but the missed opportunity at a Mortal Kombat / LUOL KANG joke is saddening.
ASIK AND DESTROY
you didnt miss much
we just played an inferior team.
make sure you watch the finals though!
"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"
luolz
"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"
by sin on Apr 8, 2011 12:54 AM CDT reply actions 19 recs
Crazy thought...
Where does Luol rank among NBA small forwards?
Just a couple years ago I think most people would’ve put him behind LeBron, Durant, Granger, Carmelo, Pierce, Marion, Kirilenko, Gerald Wallace, and somewhere in the group with Artest, C Butler, Tayshaun, Gay, Richard Jefferson, Turkoglu.
Now… arguably 3rd? Likely top 5?
by YaoPau on Apr 8, 2011 4:31 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
lebron, durant, pierce, wallace.
i wouldnt mind putting deng 5th. its really a damn shame luol started off so slowly, because this year could have been his first all star berth. good news is if he is healthy next year and the bulls go for 60 again he stands a good chance of making the team.
"if Jonny [Flynn] loved playin competeant basketball az much az he loves de movie Salt
he might be ok."
- MAYNHOLUP
all star
you mean fan voted all star, you mean the place where idiotic fans vote for eye candy and reputation as opposed to whos actually playing the best…that all star?
I cant see luol ever making an all-star team, and thats not to say he doesnt deserve it, its just that his game is so vanilla. Guys like granger and rudy gay will get far more votes (including those guys you listed above) before deng does, cuz its just popularity.
Though deng should get 1st defensive team honors. I love gerald wallace and his defense, but i think this year dengs certainly been the better overall defender. Plz, lets take lebron off the list this year, (but i fear hes gonna get the kobe treatment and constantly be left on because hes “capable” of playing good defense, as opposed to actually doing it)
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
There's always the chance that the coaches vote him in.
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
by Dash2112 on Apr 8, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i know Carmelo hasn't had a banner year
but I still put him in front of Deng. I think Deng is on Pierce and Wallace’s level this season though.
by Basketball Smurf on Apr 8, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
How can you not include Melo there?
Although, I’m not sure Deng isn’t better than Wallace either, so if we change that to:
Lebron, Durant, Pierce, Melo, Deng.
I’d have no problem with that top 5.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
"How can you not include Melo there?"
He’s super overrated and not all that great?
by jpx7 on Apr 8, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ahead of pierce now
but maybe behind gay, who made a big leap before his injury.
i guess i’m the oddball opinion in that i don’t see a big difference in deng’s game (i always appreciated it tremendously). stepping out to three wasn’t difficult to envision, though i do recall some frustrating(!) arguments here on the topic. most of his stats are actually down, i think because this team doesn’t transition like past bulls teams did.
one real subtle thing is his drive and dish game though. since the defense was always there, that play making improvement makes comparisons to his hero grant hill more legit.
still can’t believe portland was able to acquire wallace so easily. his rebs and toughness make him the perfect complement to aldridge.
for most people, deng will never compare to the glamour scoring threes in the league. it’s like apples and… spinach.
scalabrine runs everything. fuck scalabrine!
TBJ has him at 8
and thats too low. Paul Pierce clearly shouldn’t be 4 there.
by JockstrapNoah on Apr 8, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Well I'm a homer, so I'll disagree obviously.
But there are a lot of stats to back it up. Like how his efficiency among all SFs in basketball is second only to Lebron James. Or how he ranks in the top 5 in nearly every category at his position…
But, god forbid we use logic and reasoning to decide these things right?
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
lol, Rose on the high bank shot.
“Luck,” Rose said. “A lot of luck. No, I didn’t call it. I was just thankful it went in, because Thibs would be highly upset if I didn’t make it.”
I wonder what the locker room sessions are like after the bad games where those shots don’t fall. Thibs reminds me of an old boss I had who held what she called “Come to Jesus” meetings when she was pissed.
ASIK AND DESTROY
Luck is when Rondo makes a jumper;
Rose’s floaters are pure skill.
Luck is when Rondo can make a layup
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Apr 8, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Ya, that was bad...
He missed like what, 5 lay ups… more?
He’s usually a pretty good finisher at the rim though, so I’m going to call that (hope, pray?) an anomaly.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
You have a good team so this isn't directed at you...
But Fuck Rondo.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 8, 2011 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Thibs' asks:
IS IT GOOD FOR THE COMPANY?
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by Right_Field_Sucks on Apr 8, 2011 3:22 AM CDT up reply actions
ABC - Always Be Closing
Not just the last five minutes of a close game, but even the last 10 seconds when the game is on the line.
You can't close the leads you're given?
You can’t close shit?! You are shit! Hit the bricks, pal, and beat it, because you are going out.
And your name is you're wanting.
You can’t play in the man’s game? You can’t close them? Then go home and tell your wife your troubles.
(There are just too many appropriate quotes in that speech. Classic fucking movie.)
Kurt Thomas had a strong stretch from 4:00 3rd on.
Where he dominated physically.
5:00 3rd: Bogans and Allen get into it.
3:22 3rd: 60 – 56 Bulls
3:19 3rd: Thomas checks in.
3:02 3rd: HARD foul on Davis. 58 – 61.
2:49 3rd: Turns ball over.
2:39 3rd: Draws offensive foul on Kristic. Totally falls and holds onto Kristic.
1:17 3rd: Commits defensive shoving foul on BigBaby D.
:52 3rd: Collides with BBD as he was fast breaking with the ball down the lane.
:35 3rd: Grabs the defensive rebound from a missed BBD shot.
10:18 4th: Blocks BBD shot.
9:56 4th: Draws Vet Foul on BBD. Stands over BBD and says some gnarly shit.
9:56 4th: Draws Tech for taunting.
9:40 4th: Two man game with Rose sets up beautiful pass from Rose to Deng.
8:36 4th: 80 – 65 Bulls.
8:15 4th: Forced miss from KG.
7:05 4th: Hard foul on O’Neal for 3rd foul.
6:10/5:48: Two defensive rebounds.
5:25 4th: 85 – 68 Bulls. KT did his thing to the tune of +13.
by JockstrapNoah on Apr 8, 2011 1:08 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
and finally!
4:45 4th: Blocks BBD
3:12 4th: Assist to Gibson
:40 4th: Checks Out. KT plays 15 straight minutes of Buls putting it away.
by JockstrapNoah on Apr 8, 2011 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions
The gnarly shit he said
According to Freidell was “I have a better knickname then you.” I’ll see if I can find the tweet.
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
by The Voiss on Apr 8, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
HA my bad!
I was thinking of some long term nickname KT had that I didn’t know about but might have been appropriate, like, “Enforcer” or “Intimidator” or “Big Hurt”.
Either way, KT reached BradMillerian levels of appreciation last night from me. Way more than after that huge scoring game he had when Noah was out. I can’t wait to see what stupid shit he does in the playoffs.
by JockstrapNoah on Apr 8, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
actually, Stacy said recently on a radio interview that he's called him that for a long time and that it kinda just slipped out during a game this year and just stuck after that.
Cheer with Confidence, BaBers
by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 8, 2011 1:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I read or heard in an interview with him
That Kurt at first didn’t like it much but grew to like it after awhile…and seeing how others reacted to it.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 8, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't he also called..
OG?
At least that’s what Boozer seems to scream at him from time to time.
yes
because booz refuses to call another man big sexy hahahaha
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Airport WiFi ftw!!
Road to the Number 1 Seed Assassination Missions:
Suns: Mission Accomplished... I guess. Still 3 up in the loss column... I guess. Can't believe we got bullied by the corpse of Vince Carter.
Celtics: Mission Accomplished. See you in a month!
Cavaliers: Mission better damn well be accomplished!
Congratulations to the Chicago Bulls! Central Division Champions and #1 Seed in the East!:
This will be my last Assassination Missions sig for a month. After the Celtics game I leave to China and will not return until May 9th. I'm sure you all care, of course.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Apr 8, 2011 1:35 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
have a safe trip!!
"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"
by sin on Apr 8, 2011 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Safe travels man!
i know you said the trip is really important, so I hope everything works out for you
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 8, 2011 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I know I'm a little behind on this...
But why are you going to China?
"Nothing can happen till you swing the bat." -Haruko Haruhara
by windycitywarrior on Apr 8, 2011 2:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Going to pick up his new wife.
The Chicago Bulls....have a young star, Derrick Rose, who must learn to live with the tearing down of his MVP candidacy as rapidly as he constructed it. - Woj
by chicity773 on Apr 8, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
2 for 1 deals all over the place in that country.
Cheer with Confidence, BaBers
by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 8, 2011 1:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That's just so wrong it's hilarious.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 8, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Good luck doing whatever you're planning to do if you still have wifi!
I only post cotton candy. Because it's delicious.
Enjoy your trip.
The Chicago Bulls....have a young star, Derrick Rose, who must learn to live with the tearing down of his MVP candidacy as rapidly as he constructed it. - Woj
Have a safe journey.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
Bon Voyage!
We’ll hold the fort for ya. Come back safe.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 8, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Man.This was a great night.Great win.
But I wanna ask you guys about one thing that was not great in my opinion.
I’m talking about UC crowd .Maybe it was mentioned in the game treads ?I’m almost always dissapointed with the noise level at UC .It’s like a funeral home . Maybe during playoffs games it’s somewhat loud,maybe.
WTF was that?It was so quiet, almost embarasing.
I mean it’s a huge game,nationally televised , it’s GOTTA be loud as fuck!
You can hear not only Boozers yelling (which is ok) but everyone else on and off the floor.You can hear creak of the shoes.
We laugh a lot here about Miamis’ crowd , but hell ,even their arena sounds much more louder then UC at times , I’m sorry but this is true.
I’m jealouse when I watch OKC arena or Golden State and couple others.
Why UC can’t be like that?Is it because of high ticket prices and rich and fat crowd being snobby and only getting loud about 100 points mark? Maybe it’s acoustics ? I mean how quiet can 20 000 people can be?
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
I hear ya
I was a little miffed about that too, but what can you do? The building is packed, people obviously love Rose, the ratings are great. It’s definitely weird, though
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 8, 2011 2:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Definitely the prices, but also the luxury boxes.
Not just the face value prices, but also the prices for scalped or brokered tickets. Lots of buyers are apparently used to golf or tennis or opera or symphony, rather than more noisy venues. Or they are just too old to make noise.
Also the luxury boxes, which add nothing to the noise and move the upper levels far away from the court. I had season tickets in the mezzanine of the old stadium, which was the loudest in the NBA even at the peak of the Jordan era when prices were high. When we got “comparable” seats in the new 200 level, I was literally twice as far from the players.
The food’s better in the new stadium, though. And it doesn’t stink.
I was at the game against Houston with Derrick hitting 3 at the last second to send to OT
200 level.And I hear 2 ladies talking behind me:
Is Rose from Chicago?)
-I think so.
I;m turning my head to see who are those people who are sitting on $300 seats and not sure if ROSE IS FROM CHICAGO.
It felt so wrong.I wanted to ask them HOW did you get tickets to this game,and WHY you are even here.There are so many my fellow Bulls fans who would be so happy to be at UC and know Everything about their favorite team but can’t afford it or whatever.
I t sonds socialistic but I would replace more than a half of the crowd by true fans :
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Shit.What is that?
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
If you surround certain words with "-" it'll put a strike through it "*" makes it bold, examples:
strike bold there are probably other ones like that, the only two I know
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
It has something to do with tension too, imo
we love the team but we don’t celebrate until the game is over. Always expecting a Phoenix (last one) /Atlanta (first one ) /sacramento (last year) kind of game
by JustAnotherFan on Apr 8, 2011 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Very true.
That’s sort of been my thinking too. And honestly, when I’m at games, that’s exactly how I feel. I’m not one to really celebrate too much until the game is no longer in doubt. Why I am going to get insanely loud for 2 points scored in the 1st quarter? Unless it’s a spectacular play, I just clap.
The Chicago Bulls....have a young star, Derrick Rose, who must learn to live with the tearing down of his MVP candidacy as rapidly as he constructed it. - Woj
I think it might partially just be the acoustics of the building
I was there in person for the San Antonio game and it was definitely loud and intense. Obviously I can’t attest to how it came across on TV, but I wouldn’t be surprised if how large the UC is makes it more difficult for the TV mics to pick up on the real noise level.
MJ always said after leaving the old barn
That the UC was much quieter and hard to adapt to at first. The acoustics of the old Chicago Stadium at least were much better than the UC is.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 8, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
The UC is a cavern. I don't know what it is but sound just doesn't translate on TV. In person it's a lot of fun (when they play big games).
Plus the game really wasn’t in question for the entire 4th quarter.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 8, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it's more than that.
When I cheer loudly there I get some looks from people around like “:dude,it’s first quorter calm down”Also many get loud only after few beers :)
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
it's probably me
I don’t like to be distracted when I’m tweeting
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 8, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
The UC isn't the problem.
It gets real loud during Blackhawks games, and close games for the Bulls it can get very loud. Bulls fans are just pretty quiet.
by Grinder in Training on Apr 8, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Bulls should do that "lights out" thing for the playoffs
like the Knicks and Lakers. If anything, the spitters will have an easier time getting away with it.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have always loved the look of the inside of MSG and Laker games even going back to the Forum
really puts focus on the court, players are under the “lights”, seems like a boxing venue, makes it feel like an event. I love arenas where they dim the lights over the crowd. looks great on tv, especially from a wide-angle shot.
Cheer with Confidence, BaBers
by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 8, 2011 1:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah, even if not as sold out, the crowd here in Miami can get loud.
I think it’s more the length of noise. Boston’s crowd seems to keep it loud after a good play. UC crowd cheers for a second and then just simmers down. I’ve had that gripe all year. time for the UCers to get fully behind this team and make coming into that building an intimidating experience.
Cheer with Confidence, BaBers
by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 8, 2011 1:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
boston's crowds are pretty great.
even though i mean obviously i am not rooting along with them… they are a good crowd. when i was at the dec 3 game i actually really wanted scal to hit a shot so the place would explode, lol.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
A warning to anyone considering living on the west coast:
There will be days when all you want to do is watch the Bulls crush the Celtics #fuckrondo and near-clinch the East. For god’s sake remember how hard it will be to make it home from work in time for a 5:00 tip. Also remember you will need to set your TIVO before you leave the house in the morning.
Because trying to watch weird, quad-camera angle TNT Overdrive online for 5 seconds at a time on your computer with no sound and an impending work deadline is about as fun as a flea bath.
What I did see was a blast, including Rose’s HORSE layup and Deng’s steal and dunk where you just had to commend how smart a play it was out loud. Which did not go over well in my meeting.
Popping a beer in Big Sexy’s honor and getting ready for tomorrow. Thanks for the updates.
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by Right_Field_Sucks on Apr 8, 2011 3:43 AM CDT reply actions
Def agree about the TNT Overdrive camera angles.
Their resolution was awesome compared to the normal feed on p2p sits but made me queasy trying to watch the game from the floor or backboard or whatever they had. I liked that they were available, but at least they should offer the normal game feed angle from the upper sidelines. I turned that off after a few minutes and only used it to see Pippen’s ceremony.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 8, 2011 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't get to watch the game live so I caught the recap,
but damn, I love Rose. I mean the whole team is just great, everyone plays their roles well and they genuinely like each other. Watching them impose their will on the Celtics was something else. I think in the playoffs if we match up with the Celtics it won’t always be like this game. They’ll come out to play, and it’ll be tough. But I feel confident that the Bulls can play with anyone.
Like Rose said, they’ll take on all challengers. The one regular season game I want them to really destroy their opponents is the Knicks game though. Not just because of the whole beating every team at least once, but because I remember that foul that Amare gave Rose, should have been a flagrant. But I just want to see that team demoralized the way the Hawks looked after Rose tore them a new one.
by BlackStar on Apr 8, 2011 3:49 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
interesting stat i just researched:
if the bulls win 60 this year, they will be only the 3rd team in history to win at least 60 games with only 2 guys playing +2000 minutes. the 96-97 bulls and the 05-06 mavs also did this. both those teams had guys who were within 100 minutes of 2000 (rodman for the bulls and dampier and josh howard for the mavs). i would expect boozer to approach 1900 minutes but ultimately fall short.
"if Jonny [Flynn] loved playin competeant basketball az much az he loves de movie Salt
he might be ok."
- MAYNHOLUP
LOL the Mavs during those years.
They dominate the regular season only to choke in the playoffs. In 2007 they won 67 games, and then lost right away in the first round of the playoffs to a team full of reserves (except B-Diddy) who only won 42 games that year. I guess it was surprising that the Warriors only won 42. The way they played you could have swore they won 62! Hopefully when we enter the playoffs we don’t take any team for granted and our amazing defense continues to bear tremendous fruit.
they played that way 'cuz
they weren’t “a team full of reserves”.
jrich had an avg of 23 ppg the year before. besides davis, they had stephan jackson and monta ellis too. one reason for the low win total, and the late season surge, was the mid-season trade of mike dunleavy and troy murphy for sjax and al harrington.
it was an amazing series. i almost started to feel for the mavs, who i hated.
scalabrine runs everything. fuck scalabrine!
amazing indeed. I was up late every night to watch those
that was the last time I was making it a point to watch games not involving the Bulls. it was must-see-tv. and I watched all of the ‘06 playoffs b/c of all my Heat-loving buddies. I didn’t cheer for the Heat, but I was happy for my friends b/c their team won. and I felt proud that year that the Bulls probably gave them their toughest series that year… in the first round.
Cheer with Confidence, BaBers
by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 8, 2011 1:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL the Mavs made the Finals in 2006 and took a 2-0 lead over Miami.
Then Wade decided to impersonate Michael Jordan for the next 4 games.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 8, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but the refs played a big role in that series.
Wade was getting every call he wanted.
It's two different years
Screwed: Finals vs the Heat
Choke: Next year, first round bounce by GSW
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Doc approves
"I thought they were far more physical, tougher, more prepared, which is on me," said Rivers. "I thought Thibs did a better job. I thought Boozer did a better job, I thought Derrick Rose did a better job. Heck, I enjoyed watching them play. I thought everything they did was better. Their offense was better than our defense. Their defense was better than our offense. Every loose ball they got to, every tough play. I thought we reacted all night. We were never the instigator.
by JustAnotherFan on Apr 8, 2011 7:34 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
You have to hand it to him, even if he's a douche:
The man says what he feels.
by arjoseph on Apr 8, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, KG's not that bad.
Until he steps between the lines, which is sort of how it should be. I’d much rather watch him play the game the right way and then go a little overboard with the mental hi-jinx rather than watch LeBron’s immense skill misapplied. He played decent last night in the first half, he was sort of invisible in the 2nd.
by JockstrapNoah on Apr 8, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Totally agreed.
There’s plenty of time left in his career, but LeBron’s starting to feel like a Webber-esque disappointment. We’ll see.
Yeah
Boozer’s O game wasn’t falling the way it normally does, and while he still took the occasional D play off, you could see him working hard defensively….he was like a brick wall for them trying to post him up.
Sure his team D is horrid, esp when he stops moving, but when he’s motivated and guarding a guy trying to post him up, if he keeps playing like he did yesterday defensively I’m more than happy.
That was a real surprise from our O only PF. He should play more like that….
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
Boozer is too slow on everything.
Let’s hope he gets it together for the playoffs. His defense has to improve and he’s gotta stop playing so soft, I mean, didn’t Sloan teach him anything in Utah?
I thought Boozer's defense was pretty good last night
Id say he’s way less of a liability against a team like Boston that relies more on post-ups and less on dribble penetration than most teams.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Apr 8, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
When they're relying on post ups and not movement/penetration.
Then that’s when they’re at their worst. As you saw last night.
Boozer should be a liability agaisnt them, because they should have him switching and being cause out of position. But last night, they fell into an Achilles heel we’ve sadly seen far too much of with their inconsistent play lately. Basically, Rondo wasn’t aggressive, wasn’t attacking and when the off ball screens came out empty (Bulls did a fantastic job sticking to Ray’s hip and switch the screens all night, even if they did get away with a bit of tugging and pulling… it aint a foul until they blow the whistle) then the team was forced into bad shots (which almost always was Rondo or Baby.)
Spurs game last week the exact opposite, Rondo was checked in, driving, getting to the rim, shot confidently, and look like a different player. When that happens it changes everything on the team, it forces switches more often, creates mis matches, and better shots for everyone else. Last night you didn’t see a Celtics team doing what they were suppose to, you saw one who had to look into a mirror, who for the first time, maybe ever, faced a defense that did to them what they have been doing to everyone else for years.
They did not respond well… I have to hope it was a wake up call for them. But we shall see…
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
Well, the Bulls went under literally every single screen with Rondo
I don’t see how being more aggressive is gonna change that.
That said, I think Allen and Pierce were clearly off and expecting them to play that badly again is silly.
Pat Riley is the devil.
You say that like going under screens is a new thing.
And Rondo’s still managed to have some amazing games. Because rather than sit back and wait around those screens, he makes something happen.
And yes, expecting Pierce and Allen to have those games again would be silly. Or Garnett, who couldn’t buy a shot in the second half.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
When Boozer got that block at the rim I knew something was off
Lo and behold on the replay, it’s clear that Rose tipped the ball out first. In fairness though it’s the team defense that matters anyway, and I’m glad that Boozer challenged the shot without fouling. A lot of times in the past he’d stunt towards a man but give up there and not even get a hand up. His defensive effort was much improved from last night, very encouraging to see.
There are the guys who get you the need baskets," says Bulls reserve forward Brian Scalabrine, referring to the vital hoops that stop runs and close out games. "I have a different word for killers. I call them mother-------. And right now, Derrick Rose is the baddest mother------ in the league by far. He is the reason we win.
It was definitely a backside tip by D. Rose...
But at the same time, looking at the replay, had the ball not been tipped to begin with, Boozer’s blocking hand would’ve been in the perfect spot to get a big chunk of the ball. So no harm in him getting some false credit — like you said, he definitely made an encouraging effort.
ASIK AND DESTROY
by JStymie on Apr 8, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Boozer proved that Jeff Green can't guard him too.
Not with his generally wicked post moves, but just by backing him down with two dribbles to the chest and laying the ball in with the foul.
Boozer is at the least, a very large man.
by JockstrapNoah on Apr 8, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I loved that play.
Normally, you’d back the guy one more step, but Booz felt the mismatch, wanted to avoid the double, and exploded toward the basket so unexpectedly that Green didn’t even have a chance. Great aggression by Booz.
yeah i was laughing my ass off there
at green trying to guard booz.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
He's been down offensively lately.
But its comforting that this team doesn’t need his offense to be incredible like the Jazz teams did. He just needs to be the alternate option and rebound. The Bulls need his rebounding (12 last night) and if he’s bringing that, I’ll be happy with whatever offense he delivers.
by JockstrapNoah on Apr 8, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, i mean part of it is we gotta exploit the matchups we're given
green on booz? hell yeah, take it. but garnett on him? not so much. even if we force a situation like that, it’s not going to end up too well. as soon as i saw green guarding him on that play i knew he was going to destroy him.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Still demands respect
He won’t put 30 but if you leave him a softie like Green it’s money
by JustAnotherFan on Apr 8, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
this bulls team doesn't push pace like those jazz teams did
boozer is capable of getting out really well, but thibs doesn’t want anybody releasing early.
scalabrineholiinger runs everything. fuck scalabrinehollinger!
Boozer did a much better job hedging screens than I expected
Or have seen out of him until now.
I was just watching a breakdown of how Pau Gasol does a bad job at this before the game, so I was tuned into that aspect, and Boozer was coming out and making sure there was no room to penetrate.
he missed like 2 or 3 layups
pretty hilarious..
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
funny cuz two of them were cherry pickings
im pretty sure theres a couple dozen dleague guards who couldve made those layups
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
for real
they cherry-picked on like three scores in a row. I was nodding in disappointment. desperate act by a desperate team.
Cheer with Confidence, BaBers
by BULLieving in Miami on Apr 8, 2011 2:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd love to see a youtube video comparing Rose and Rondo
and have it just be a series of Rose hitting impossible lay-ups spliced with Rondo missing wide open fast break ones.
I don't think there's nearly enough love for Luol's game last night.
Paul Pierce didn’t do anything, and he scored 23 points on 50% 2p and 3p shooting. He could have gotten to the line more, and he was fouled a few times on shots that weren’t called (which means his 2p % and FTA should be higher). He got called for some bad fouls. Still, seemed like Lu was a big reason the Bulls won last night. Derrick was Derrick, Luol stepped up, and we got 15 points and good D from Keithnie Brover.
by jsl413 on Apr 8, 2011 10:23 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
LMAO @ Keithnie Brover
Tired of you Deng haters...sigh. Here to show Deng and the Bulls some love!
by ChiTownBallz on Apr 8, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
For real
Did Paul Pierce score in the 2nd half? How many touches did he even get?
Deng has been playing excellent ball down the stretch.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Luol beasted last night for sure.
He deserves tons of props for it.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 8, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
The comments over at Celticsblog are priceless
Especially the ones regarding Deng, the consensus is that he owns Pierce, and their admin even compared his performance last night to Pip.
by tuff-gong on Apr 8, 2011 10:59 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I think it's definitely neat to see the respect from them.
Because they know more than anyone what team we are trying to be. And I have to say, for the most part they seem like pretty classy fans.
And, you know, fuck Rondo (which they don’t seem to mind!).
ASIK AND DESTROY
Celtics fans? Classy?
On the blog It’s better.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
by NBA Observer on Apr 8, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
In respects to some of the blog posts, sure.
I know the overall atmosphere (big baseball fan, see the Red Sox fan glory), but considering there some Bulls fans trolling them yesterday (let’s be honest), they still gave the Bulls credit where credit is due. A lot of people wouldn’t.
ASIK AND DESTROY
Thanks?
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
You do have some good tempered, objective fans there.
Might be different during the playoffs but I visited it last night and thought you had a well reasoned bunch.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 8, 2011 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm just glad Deng is finally getting respect from Bulls fans.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
no shit. honestly, this general change of heart has been the best part of this season for me.
"if Jonny [Flynn] loved playin competeant basketball az much az he loves de movie Salt
he might be ok."
- MAYNHOLUP
Lol,
it’s crazy how easy it was last night for Rose to defend Rondo. I’m off of work and school today and NBATV is replaying the game. Rose guards Rondo the same way guys guarded him when he was a rook, but Rondo’s a freaking vet!
Guys talk about coaches needing to get the best out of their players; Rivers gets nothing but passing and hustle out of Rondo. He doesn’t need to be the scorer DRose is, but if he was just the threat that Devin Harris is the Celtics would still be very scary.
well in Doc River's defense
he can’t teach Rondo how to shoot. If Rondo isn’t going to work hard enough were he can at least confidently shoot a 15 footer or make a free throw their is only so much Rivers can do.
by Basketball Smurf on Apr 8, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess,
and being that I’m not as knowledgeable of the Celtics as I am of the Bulls, I may be wrong with my assessment, but Rivers should get on Rondo for being a shitty offensive player. Maybe he does and Rondo’s simply not willing to work, but maybe not.
Wow, I never thought I'd say this, but two of the biggest reasons I'm growing more confident about a playoff run are:
1. Kurt Thomas and his badass ways
2. Keith Bogans and his badass ways
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Apr 8, 2011 11:20 AM CDT reply actions
y'all tried to ruin this beautiful recap
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 8, 2011 11:31 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
So, if Shaq's back for the playoffs, will it have any impact against anybody?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Apr 8, 2011 11:33 AM CDT reply actions
LOL, I just went to the Celtic's Blog and read their comments, here is what I have to conclude:
1) Most of them still think Rondo is better than Rose
2) They said that Rondo will beat Rose in the playoffs because Rondo has more experiences
3) Celtics are RESTING for the playoffs
4) Shaq is the key for the C’s to beat the Bulls in the playoff
5) Beating Bulls is easy, all the opponent have to do is stop him from going to the right
Derrick can go right, left, u-turn, make you come out of your Nikes, dunk it, and kiss his moms while hitting his head on the backboard.
Thibs got his team a chemistry set for Christmas
by livesinnoahsbasement on Apr 8, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would've ask them this question:
“OK guys answer with all honesty you can find deep inside your green souls,if Pax calls tomorrow to Ainge and offer Rose for Rondo straight up will you make a trade?You don’t have to give the honest answer to me – answer it to you self.Give it 10 seconds…Ok you see now?
Welcome to reality and Rose fanclub.:)
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
*yourself
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
Only the true homers say that.
And they’re delusional.
Look, I’ll admit it, and I actually did well before last night.
Rondo for years has been in the “Best PG in Basketball” conversation. He still is, but sliding down that risk due to his inconsistencies lately. Rose right now, is no longer is “Best PG in Basketball” conversations but no in “Best player in Basketball” conversations.
It’s not a question anymore, whether or not we’ll see a different Rondo in the playoffs. I hope so, and I would be optimistic we will. You have to admit at least, the Rondo you saw last night is not the same guy you’ve seen in the playoffs before. A guy who nearly average a triple double for two entire playoff series in 09. You’re not going to tell me you really think Rondo wont be better than he was last night…
But is her better than Rose? No, that’s just stupid.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
So Hollinger barbs are off-limits but Gloria James comments are cool. Hmmm
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 8, 2011 12:15 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
ha, 'Derrick Rose face'
didn’t say Hollinger barbs are off limits, just off topic.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 8, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
that was really awkward to watch
I didn’t have the volume up and honestly thought my cable box had frozen.
by darksmokepuncher on Apr 8, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Went to the C's blog again and found this
We don’t play D.
We take all jump shots.
We don’t run our sets on offense. We stand around and watch.
Rondo doesn’t try.
We play at 60% energy level.
And we’re still in the game until the 4thq. How was that not a 30+ point game?
The Bulls are actually pretty easy to beat. Stop the Rose penetration to the right…. and that my friends will happen in the playoffs. How many Dwight Howard elbows will it take to stop that?
Rose is good … but good ain’t good enough in the playoffs when the other team takes away what your good at…. then what? That’s the difference between good and champion.
Bulls enjoy your reg season glory and hope and pray the C’s continue to play like this.
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
Dwight Howard plays for a different team.
If the Bulls get past the Magic, no lingering fear of Howard elbows will find its way into the Celtic series. But is it true that Howard would be able to punish Rose on drives to the basket ? Well we’ve all seen that before.
I’m anxious to see what Kurt Thomas has in store for the hot headed Dwight Howard.
by JockstrapNoah on Apr 8, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
He would be suspended
for about 2 games
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
Whatever. They'll keep making excuses.
They’d better wish their magical switch will work, ’cause DRose shows no mercy!
Also
didnt mention that the refs kept them in the game. The score is closer than it should be lol.
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
by T.Moore on Apr 8, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ugh, don't start that stuff.
As always, the refs were lousy for both sides, and we could all come up with plenty of examples.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
I think both fans were riled up...
Because it was a “tale of two halves.” The foul discrepancy was pretty blatant towards the Celtics in the first half (11-4 going into half time I think? With pretty equal play on both sides), but in reality I think it evened out in the second half.
ASIK AND DESTROY
It's an impossible argument.
The only thing you can conclude is that NBA officials are bad on both sides.
I mean, example, is the foul on Pierce in the first half that led to the T… I wasn’t aware they changed the rules to say a defender has to concede the basket to an offensive player at all times. Apparently going straight up and contesting is now illegal. Who knew?
And yes, you will come back with examples of lousy calls against the Bull to, and I have no doubt there were plenty. Again, NBA officials just suck, period. But they suck for everyone, so move on.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
I dont mean to be a douche.
But they were horrible in the 1st half, and they evened up a bit in the second half. The thing that pissed me off though is that play when Bogans and Ray were tied up and the ref decided to get right in the middle of it DURING the play and he was in the way. At least blow the whistle so you can separate them without interfering a play.
but i agree they always suck. Still pissed about the suns game.
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
I think you're saying the same thing. ;)
That’s what I’m saying, it sucked on both sides. There were enough individual calls for either side to disagree with, but there were enough on both sides that it evened out. Just not a superbly officiated games.
Basketball is so dynamic that no ref will ever be perfect, so there’s no point getting worked up about it. The only thing that stands out is selective calls (like players counting out the 10 second FT violation for Howard — he is right in saying plenty of other players break that rule and never get called; even though he deserved his technical).
ASIK AND DESTROY
hmmm...
Yes there were some bad calls for Boston but for much of the game it was very uneven. I’ll give you there was bad calls on both sides, but to tell us don’t start that stuff…move on…impossible argument? sometimes games do favor one side rather than the other. This is a Bull’s fan blog and I’m not gonna ever apologize for pointing out something I see. If you think the argument is wrong…either post or move on yourself.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 8, 2011 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I still don't understand how Deng didn't that call when he got Pierce in the air
I think the actual rule is bs, but they always call that. Get defender in air, lean into him and shoot = 2 FTs.
They're so used to the refs fellating them that they no longer notice...
21 fouls on us to 11 on them…
Clinched 1st seed in the East. MN(SAS): 5 MN(Bos): 0 MN(LAL): 0 MN(Mia): 0 MN(Orl): 0
I went to the Celtics blog
and stayed there because this blog sucks.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 8, 2011 12:22 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
cmon man u know u love us
with teh bulls winning you dont have anything to bitch about, so us loyal followers supply the crap for you to bitch at…keeping the status quo…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
maybe, but I really don't get why it's that hilarious to troll other blogs for their lowest denominators, too
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 8, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah I'm sure people could pick out a lot of dumb stuff that is said
here. Just because someone on the Celtics blog posted it, doesn’t mean that all Celtics fans agree with that point of view.
by Basketball Smurf on Apr 8, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
cuz just sayin "fuck rondo" aint enough?
If life's is dream, why sleep at all? - BK
by Belize on Apr 8, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
since when?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 8, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I want to see
what my posting counterpart types at other blogs
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but now ur back here, because that blog blows
You always were second best! And in this business, Bub, second best don't *cut* it!
Anybody have a torrent link for
the Pacers/Bulls game on March 18th? Can’t find it anywhere.
Rivers: WTF!
Rondo: I dunno coach, rose is just playing out this world right now..i just cant explain it
rivers: Well, you should you fuckin alien
If life's is dream, why sleep at all? - BK
Rivers: So they all think you really suck right now, what’s up?
Rondo: Eh, just wanna keep people in suspense, we weren’t winning the 1 seed anyway.
Rivers: Bout what I figured, now let’s go call a press conference and tell people we had this meeting to “figure things out”
Rondo: Sounds good.
Sorry… had to do it.
"Phil is obviously a good coach. You don't win that many games without being a damn good coach, ... Remember one thing: He's been very fortunate. He picks his spots. That's all I can say." - Red Auerbach
04 + 07 = 11
Rivers: When did you start sucking, Rajon?
Rondo: Wait . . . start?
Rivers: [pause] Good point.
by arjoseph on Apr 8, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought of something more dramatic like
Rondo: coach…. I was raped
Doc: I know, son, I know
by JustAnotherFan on Apr 8, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I really do not like speaking positively about players getting hurt --
But have you guys seen what is happening with the rest of our schedule after the Cavs?
Orlando will be missing Howard and Richardson due to their suspensions.
The Knicks have a possibility to be missing ‘Melo due to an ankle injury (expected now to be out through Sunday’s game).
Deron Williams is apparently having wrist surgery today, and we play the Nets on Wednesday.
ASIK AND DESTROY
good for them
now they have excuses to games they would lose anyway
by JustAnotherFan on Apr 8, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lmfao
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
by Jaina on Apr 8, 2011 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
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