2011 Playoffs Bulls - Hawks notes: Hinrich may miss series, We only wish Boozer would
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 29, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
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I'm kidding about the Boozer part of the headline, of course: The Bulls may not need a full-tilt Booz (whatever that is, anymore) against the Hawks, but they'll need him eventually. Boozer did not practice today, but no indications that he'd miss Monday's game.
And yes, as stated: I'm already looking ahead, because the Hawks just don't seem to pose that much of a threat. And to make matters worse for their chances, it appears that Kirk Hinrich may miss the entire series due to the hamstring strain he suffered in the Hawks first-round clincher. Backup PG Jeff Teague only played 9 minutes in that round, so we'll be seeing a lot more of him on Derrick Rose, and maybe some (ha) Jamal Crawford (hahaha). The Bulls strategy of playing 4-on-5 may allow Joe Johnson to take some time on Rose as well, but to me that seems like a guard too big.
Some links for ya:
- Great post by Zach Lowe at SI where he goes through some major questions heading into the series. Most of the unanswerable ones are on the Hawks side of the ledger.
- Bulls By the Horns notes how the Atlanta offense fits perfectly into what the Bulls can stop.
- Recent interviews with the 2-headed possible Executive of the Year, Gar Forman and John Paxson.
- And speaking of awards, did Rose officially win the MVP?
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Wow, how nuts would it be if Rose won MVP, Thibs won COY and GarPax won execs of the year?
Of course, none of that would matter without a championship.
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by ColonelFatheart on Apr 29, 2011 7:33 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
you do realize exec is voted by peers
and almsot the entire league hates riley
The quest for seven is on.
I sincerely think Garpax deserves it.
Think about it. last year the Heat were what, the 7th seed? And the Bulls were the 8th. This year the bulls are the #1 and the Heat are #2. Seems to me our off-season lead to the biggest improvement, even if Riley had a sexier off-season, he didn’t have as good of one.
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by dantheman3k on Apr 29, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Heat were the 5th seed last year.
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
hence 5th to 2nd vs. 8th to 1st
as far as I’m concerned, we DID have the better off-season and thus we’re better deserving of the executive of the year award.
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by dantheman3k on Apr 29, 2011 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm also with us over Riley.
How hard was it for him to broker that deal anyway? If anyone on the Heat should get credit for the team they created, it’s Wade not Riley. He was the one who got Bosh and LeBron to come to his home, agree to end their contracts at the same time, and come to the Heat and limit their contracts so they could play together. Riley was involved sure…but Wade had the idea and started it rolling. I don’t know when this award is given but if it’s after the Finals you can bet the difference will be where the Bulls and Heat finish.That is, if the NBA hasn’t already decided on the Heat because of the attention the Big Three get.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 30, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I kind of get what you're saying with Wade, BUT
Riley engineered their roster so that they only had Mario Chalmers and Joel Anthony (maybe even just Chalmers, I forget if Anthony technically signed as a free agent), so they had the cap space to sign all three.
I don’t know who I would vote for if I had a vote (was an NBA front-office exec, ha), probably a pirate’s favorite executive, Garrrrrr, just based on improvement.
I think around the time all the rumors were swirling about VDN getting fired
Someone wrote a piece saying that other executives thought Gar was a liar and jerk. Don’t remember who wrote it, but if the award is just a popularity contest that might not bode well for Gar either.
GarPax did a nice a job
and scores major points for Thibs/Ronnie/Korver/Kurt, but the Booz stands out as a terrible signing. Booz isn’t going anywhere either, his deal is among the worst in basketball.
How can you call Boozer a "terrible" signing? Come on now
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 29, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Then what is it?
One year in and he’s missed a quarter of the games while sucking in the playoffs and the fan base is wondering aloud if his backup would be a better starter? He’s the 25th highest player in the league.
Then the problem is with the fanbase.
The fact is, Boozer has been very good when he’s been healthy. He’s been a terrific rebounder, scorer, passer, and teammate. Basically everything we signed him for. He’s had some injury issues, and wasn’t very productive in our first playoff series (likely because of the injuries), and everyone wants to act like he’s done. Sorry, I’m not buying it. He does some very valuable things for this team, and I don’t think people will fully realize it until he’s gone, unfortunately.
(Btw, he just had a 17 pt 14 rebound performance in Game three, and everyone still wants to act like he can’t play. If Noah had that same line, everyone would be kissing his ass.)
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Oh, come on!
He’s been loafing on D all year and even when he was scoring he was clearly the weak link on defense. His PER is the lowest it’s been in years(minus his 37 game season two years back). His ORTG is at a career low and the eye test confirms his shitiness. 8.7 PER in the playoffs with his typical shit defense, almost cost the team several games in that series, let Hansbrough treat him like a bitch.
(Mazel Tov, he had a nice game, for 15 million he should be getting 20/10., especially with his horrid defense.)
by dakoose on Apr 30, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
We didn't get him to play defense
We knew that would be an issue. And he get’s a shit ton of defensive rebounds. I consider that a defensive play. I seem to remember us having issues with that in the past.
Also, his defense can’t be too bad if he’s a starter on the number one defense in the league (or do we only get to use that argument for D Rose?)
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Now I know you're pulling my leg.
A shit ton of rebounds? He’s a solid rebounder, but he’s not THAT much better than Taj. Better D-Rebounder, yeah, but a worse O-rebounder. Also takes terrible shots often and does nothing for large stretches of the game.
Anyone with two eyes and a brain can see how awful Boozer is on D, you can’t even make that argument. Meanwhile, with Rose you see the improvement and that he doesn’t get abused like Booz does.
by dakoose on Apr 30, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We need defensive rebounding more than offensive rebounding
We have Joakim to grab offensive boards.
And I didn’t say Boozer was good at D, I said he was passable. The fact that he plays on such a great defense should absolutely give him a little leeway with the fanbase.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
No it shouldn't,
because you see how much the D improves when Booz sits. Taj comes in and the D clamps down. We also have Jo to grab defensive rebounds, ya know?
Taj is also playing against shittier competition
(I know Taj is a better defender, but there are reasons the offense is THAT much better)
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
FYI,
the ORTG when Taj is on the floor is 106, with Booz its 105. The offense is not playing that much better with Taj. Boozer is a better scorer than Taj, but Taj is as effective of a player, overall. It shows when Taj subs in for Booz. Better shot blocker, individual and team defender, better/equal offensive rebounder/junk scorer.
Those are only the playoff ORtgs and also includes the minutes
that Gibson and Boozer were both on the court together. During the regular season the team’s ORtg with Boozer on the court was 110.62 compared to 107.4 with Gibson on the court. And Boozer’s greater ability to create shots allowed the Bulls to start both Bogans and Kurt Thomas for long stretches of the season. Boozer has obvious liabilities, but he also can do things that no one else on the roster can’t. And those things cost significant money of the free agent market.
I was looking at regular season ORTG.
Booz’s ORTG per B-R.com is 105, Taj’s is 106.
Lets not forget also that Taj can actually hit the miracle 3s
Boozer hasn’t hit a miracle 3 all year.
by JockstrapNoah on Apr 30, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
That's personal ORTG, and doesn't
have anything to do with what you’re saying.
FYI, the ORTG when Taj is on the floor is 106, with Booz its 105.
by Stacey_Is_King on Apr 30, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
So what do that stats mentioned here mean,
that Taj would score more per 100 than Booz but the team scores more per 100 when Booz is out there?
Individual ORtg is kinda screwy
It doesn’t do a very good job of accounting for different roles and the fact that some players shoot a higher volume than others. For instance, Bogans has a 113 ORtg.
Pat Riley is the devil.
It's not screw just because it doesn't do something
it’s not designed to do. It’s actually fairly brilliant. There’s not a better individual summary stat than ORtg. It’s not meant to be a player ranking systems, which is great because player ranking systems are honestly stupid.
Boozer pisses me off, especially on defense
BUT, juicebox is right. We didnt get him for that purpose. We are still a #1 defense with Boozer, and thats without him needed to be a stud on defense. He helps us on offense, much like Noah is our stud on defense. Boozer when healthy has been dominant on the boards and scoring to the point people were saying he could have potentially been an all star with those missed games under his belt. Its the overall scheme of things, the last 2 or 3 games doesnt define an 82 game season, nor does it set a blueprint for future playoff series. Im trying not to get too pissed at him as long as we win, and I fully expect him to average 15-15 this series.
GO BULLS AND BLACKHAWKS!
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 30, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Just so you know,
since February(including the playoffs) Boozer has averaged 14.4/9 on ~47 percent FG shooting. Thats a 35 game stretch of poor ball from the 15 million dollar man.
I'm just going to agree with both of you.
Boozer is an enigma. When he is healthy, he’s a 20/10 player with poor/mediocre defense. When he is hurt/out of sync with the players on the floor, he is awful. We knew he wasn’t a great defensive player. He was signed for his range on jumpers and rebounding. He has had a down year in the first year of his contract and you are already crucifying him? Sounds a little over board. Give him another year.
Turco was good, but Crawford has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on May 1, 2011 2:47 AM CDT up reply actions
He actually had 16 rebounds JBJ.
I digress, Boozer is only 29 this is not a Big Ben scenario where we signed him at 32. Booz has plenty left in the tank. I think he didn’t let it be known how bad his injuries were based on his questionable injury history. Perhaps because of what happened in the beginning of the season and his desire to shake the injury tag.
"Shit just got real" - anorexorcist.
Do you think these injuries will stop?
His career is full of shit like this, it’s not as if he’s going to become an 82 game/year player.
I'm with you in that it isn't a terrible signing.
But I wouldn’t say it’s been successful so far either. Boozer was signed to produce 20/10 and he knew it with the money he made. I agree it wasn’t for defense and no one should be surprised with what he has done there or upset because of it. He’s been in the league long enough he should know by now how to play without getting into foul trouble in the playoffs yet can’t seem to stop it in the first series, which has limited his contributions greatly in the majority of the games. Injury issues are not his fault as we knew he was injury prone…so I’m not talking about him being out.
We need him to provide more offense to advance now. We need a solid secondary scorer (If Deng isn’t providing that, then third). A low post threat takes pressure off Rose and I would hope we expected that from him being a forward.
I’m not giving up on him. This is his first playoff series with us, the first year after we signed him isn’t over yet. I’ll be rooting for him of course along with the rest of the team. But it is time he stepped up his game. I sure hope that turf toe heals because we do need him.
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by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 30, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
hyperbole much?
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
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by DocPepper on Apr 29, 2011 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
joe johnson, rudy gay, darko
ring a bell?
Boozer singing: My toes, my knees, my shoulder, my beard.
Well, Rudy Gay was a lot beter this season before the injury
His contract might turn out not to be so bad in the end
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Apr 30, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Darko?
He’s making 4 million? I’d swap Booz for JJ in a second. Same for Rudy Gay,
JJ is one dimensional, and pretty much garbage at this point (with that contract)
I wouldn’t even consider that trade. Boozer adds a whole different dimension to our team on the offensive end when he’s on the floor. Not to mention the rebounding.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Joe is a fine defender and a very good shooter,
his numbers suffer because he’s asked to isolate all the damn time. He’s a great fit alongside Rose. Meanwhile, you can slide in Taj at the 4 and whatever you lose on offense by going from Booz to Taj you gain in the Bogans to JJ upgrade as well as Taj’s infinitely superior defense.
"Very good shooter"?
Do you have numbers to back that up? Because i don’t think he’s been a good shooter in a while. In fact, I think him and Rose would be a pretty terrible fit. It would be an offense built around two isolation perimeter players. Yuck.
Also, what makes you think that Taj can play an entire season of quality ball? I’ve seen nothing to suggest that. He’s been merely good for most of the season. Admittedly he’s played great defense lately, but I don’t think that’s enough to say we can go ahead with him as a starter for the full season. At least not if you’re serious about winning a title
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Just like a team can win a championship with a poor 2 guard at starter,
it can win one with merely a solid 4, especially if that 4 does the right things on the defensive end and knows what his job is on offense. I’m of the belief that like has been the case with Lu, a slide down the pecking order would do JJ a lot of good. He should not be the centerpiece of an offense, but put him next to a stud PG who can create and get him open shots and you have urself a guy who’s numbers look a whole lot better than when he was asked to take all the tough shots.
This Boozer hate sounds an awful lot like the
Deng hate form earlier this year.
by silentpete on Apr 30, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's three of your top scorers being wing players
Sounds like a second round ass kicking to me
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Let's get Big Baby
HE’s A KNOCK DOWN SHOOTER from 15 feet!!! (sarcasm)
"You control the rebounds, You control the game"- Hanamichi Sakuragi
I guess you're referring to when I said I'd like to have Big Baby on the Bulls.
I still think he’d be a solid role player for this team.
He'll be ok i guess
but i dont want him here cause Taj is better imo
"You control the rebounds, You control the game"- Hanamichi Sakuragi
There's probably not enough minutes
here if Booz and Taj are around.
Yeah, I just checked hoopshype and saw that JJ's deal
is far bigger than what I thought. I thought it was in Booz/Gay territory.
I'd rather have Boozer than sign the league's worst All-Star to a 6 year max contract jut as he enters the age where the wheels normally fall off for SG's
and right after a year where he saw a precipitous drop in his stats …
It’s just that people are scared of the unknown. What I have seen of him is exactly what we need and I can’t believe he isn’t being at least gotten some burn after all we’ve seen. -SoulEater7
You wouldn't rather have JJ than Boozer right now?
I’d swap deals in a heartbeat.
I have to amend that.
I thought they were on similar deals, but I checked it out on hoopshype and OMG. JJ is a better fit, but his deal is significantly worse than Booz.
your hate is irrational
Did Kyle Korver just dunked? And what? Bogans made 15 points?! No, no... This can't be real
by JustAnotherFan on Apr 30, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Among the worst?
That’s a stretch and a half.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 30, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
OK......so go look at the 25 highest paid players in the league.
I clump his terrible salary with those of Rashard Lewis(2), Arenas(2), Redd(0), Kirilenko(0), Yao(0), Vince(0), Brand(2), KMart(0) and JRich(0). The number in parenthesis is years left on the deal. Those guys are nearly all coming off the books after this year; Lewis, Arenas and Brand are done in 2. Booz has 4 fucking years left and if those years are anything like this one, his deal is terrible.
Just cause he's highly paid, and missing some time, doesn't make it an awful deal
You sound to me like a guy that’s been stung by some bad free agent signings in the past, and are way too quick to jump to conclusions. Are you a Cubs fan by chance? That would explain a lot. We won 62 games with Boozer this year. He is not a disaster by any stretch
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
We won 62 games with Bogans,
maybe he should stick around for next year. Honestly, Booz has been extremely disapointing this season, and I’d be happy if they traded him in the offseason. I think this team would be fine if Taj started and we got an upgrade at the 2. WHats a better starting lineup: Rose/Johnson/Deng/Taj/Noah or Rose/Bogans/Deng/Boozer/Noah?
Keep in mind that Boozer is NOT a reliable post scorer.
by dakoose on Apr 30, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I prefer the second lineup much more
And the Bogans comparison is dumb, because he’s not even close to the player Boozer is, and he doesn’t get the minutes Boozer does. In fact, Bogans starting on this 62 win team is further proof of Boozer’s value imo.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You haven't really told me how Boozer is a good player.
You’ve pointed out that the Bulls have been a good team with him playing, but I don’t care about that. He was brought here to shoulder the load on offense and be a post presence. He’s 0-2 there. Add in shit defense and a crazy affinity for injuries and you have a bust.
(Shhh, we can only pay attention to what's happened in the past 36 hours)
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Well, Noah's not out and Booz cant seem to play well with Noah,
so that doesn’t really matter.
How is he 0-2? That's just blatantly wrong.
They didn’t bring him in here to “shoulder the load on offense”, that’s Rose’s job, and everyone knew it. They brought him in to be one of the secondary options, score from the post, and rebound the ball. When healthy, he’s done all those things. Has the whole World gone crazy??? Am I the only one that gives a shit about the rules?!?!?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
(Btw, that was a quote from a movie at the end, just in case you didn't know and thought I was being an idiot)
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Whatever, when this contract is said and done you'll see how much of a dissapointment Boozer was.
I didn’t mean be the dominant scorer on the team, thats obviously Rose’s job. But Boozer is supposed to be an excellent scorer for this team; he put up 15/9 after the ASB on 45% shooting and only had one 20/10 month this season. And don’t pretend to not have noticed how much better the team looks when he’s not out there.
Last 35 games for Booz(including playoffs)
14.4/9 on ~47%FG. Thats with the poor defense, of course.
Look, I'm not saying he's been an amazing pickup
It’s just not nearly as disastrous as you’re making it out to be. He’s been pretty much as advertised, and I’ll even go as far as saying he’s been flat out awesome at times this year. Sure, this poor stretch is coming at an inopportune time (again, injuries are probably the culprit. let’s not forget the ankle from the Charlotte game), but that also doesn’t mean he’s finished. I’m expecting him to bounce back as soon as the Atlanta series.
(Btw, I’m not the super optimistic type, so I’m not trying to be a ray of sunshine here. I just think you’re way overboard on this one, and I sincerely think Boozer will be fine. If he continues to suck a couple games into a series against Miami/Boston, I’ll probably be right there freaking out with you. i just haven’t seen anything yet to make me believe that will be the case)
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Dakoose, you're 100% right
Boozer has been a bad signing. What people need to understand is what he was brought here for, not what he does well and rationalizing it. Boozer was brought here to be a post presence that could help spread the floor for Rose be demanding a double team and to be a reliable 20/10 player. He’s done none of that.
What Juice and others are doing is giving Boozer the same excuse some give for Bogans. “He’s on a 62 win team so what’s the big deal?” Well here’s the problem with that thinking.. DERRICK ROSE IS HAVING A MVP SEASON. That’s the problem. That’s what has made this all OK, that’s what has made Thibs COY, that’s what has made it acceptable that our starting SG is putting up 4ppg. It starts there and ends there because if Rose has a marginal improvement this year and Boozer played like this, he would be considered a bust.
Forget his past and forget the small stretch that he played well, Boozer’s problem is that he’s playing like he’s done. The fact that he’s 29 and is playing worse ball than Elton Brand, Tim Duncan, or hell even Joel Anthony, is alarming. If he’s not putting in 20 and 10, the deal was a bust because his defense is atrocious and I know damn well Taj can give me 14 and 9 with above average defense.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
by Dils on Apr 30, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
And these guys think its OK to play bad D
because thats his rep. Bullshit! It’s only somewhat acceptable to be a zero on defense if you’re a fucking stud on offense. Furthermore, he’s always hurt so he better be awesome when he’s healthy. He needs to get his shit together and figure out how he can up his performance or he’ll be coming off of the bench next year.
"only one 20/10 month:
Sure but he also had a 19/11 month.
Way to twist the facts.
Doesn't change a damn thing.
Boozer has had 2 months of quality offensive ball. The rest of the time he either sucked or was injured.
I’ll say something I should have said above. We knew Booz wasn’t a standout defender, but I doubt any of us knew we were in store for this shitfest. He’s an awful defender. Rose was bad the last two years, but Boozer’s D has taken it to a whole different level. He completely blows on that end. So at best he’s only very good on one end of the floor, and most of the year he’s been bad/gone on that end.
Look I totally agree that Boozer's first year has been disappointing
However, I don’t think it’s age related and I think there is a good chance he bounces back. He has also been useful this year in terms of getting the #1 seed.
Also, while his deal is big, you basically have to overpay for FA. That’s just how it works. The only free agent that truly available this year, that I would have taken over Boozer is Stoudamire. The gap between them isn’t really that big.
I still think we'd be better off with Joe Johnson at the 2,
but his contract is idiotic.
This year and next year
But then he will be an old guard who relies on athleticism, while Boozer will be an old forward who relies on strength.
Guess who historically is better?
Strength?
Oh that’s why he was being beat by Tyler Hansborough? Boozer isn’t Antonio McDyess and can just get away with being a brute. He’s a finesse player, dare I say Boshlike. So Boozer has very little room for error at this point in his career.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
In what way do you mean beat by?
Because he ended the series shooting 33%, and I don’t recall him ever posting up on Boozer.
Boozer was getting good looks, he just wasn’t finishing, likely because of his injury.
He took Booz to the hoop many times.
Go find footage for Booz defending anyone in the post. He gives up ground more readily than Taj or Jo despite being stronger and having a more sturdy base.
Strength?
Boozer is a marshmallow. He has popcorn muscle, a la Joey Porter via Brandon Marshall.
I doubt you’ve ever watched Joe Johnson. Not only does he not rely on athleticism, he doesn’t have that much and never has. He’s a skilled, smooth SG with less athleticism than you’d think by looking at him. Thats why he plays in the post a lot.
That is a stupid argument.
Boozer outrebounds guys bigger then him on a fairly regular basis. That means he is strong. Period.
I watched JJ in the playoffs last year. I’m not impressed.
Rebounds = Strength?
Funny, when I think of Chris Paul, strength is not the first word that comes to mind. But he gets a lot of rebounds.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
No
Marcus Camby is tall for his position. CP3 is a point guard and most of his come from following the ball and picking up long bords. Boozer is short for his position and has to box out bigger players. He is strong.
GarPax should get executive of the year for just
not drafting Beasley. I know that was a while ago at this point, but it still needs to be celebrated. I’m pretty confident in GarPax’s ability to have fucked that up, and they didn’t.
by JockstrapNoah on Apr 30, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I admit, I'm more excited about Miami/Boston than about Chicago/Atlanta.
It will be hard for the Chicago players to take Atlanta seriously. That’s probably the biggest danger of this series. I still think the Bulls will win, but if they don’t play hard in game one the Hawks could steal home court advantage, and maybe win another in Atlanta. I still can’t conceive of the Bulls losing the series, but I want them to focus and win easily in four so Boozer can rest his toe while Miami and Boston beat each other up in seven.
by Tim S. on Apr 29, 2011 7:33 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
pax probably sent kirk a text and promised him a contract if he sat out the series
The quest for seven is on.
CJ Watson just tweeted that the Bulls have won this series in 4 games
so it must be official. CJ Watson, the Walter Cronkite of the NBA.
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thibs must be the green ranger
The quest for seven is on.
by sin on Apr 29, 2011 7:53 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
thibs WAS the green ranger
now he’s the red one!
Boozer singing: My toes, my knees, my shoulder, my beard.
by JLbuLL on Apr 30, 2011 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Some of the websites reporting Rose MVP:
abasketballjones.com
chicitysports.com
So basically, he’s lost the MVP. Surprised Rasual Butler hasn’t tweeted that yet.
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Twitter is blowing up like the AP reported it
and all these BS websites are writing lame stories
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Whats ur deal?
It wasn’t even funny the first time.
Looks like Sam's not happy, which probably means the org's not happy, which probably means CJ will be on the T Wolves next year:
SamSmithHoops Sam Smith
I see Bulls players now tweeting Rose is MVP…so much for keeping a secret in this era. Most embarrassing is I saw tweets. Ashamed of self.
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To be fair to CJ,
Twitter hasn’t been around very long and is a game changer. Seems at least half of the NBA uses it now. It will be hard to keep it a secret each year now.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 29, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh come on, he's not an idiot. He had to know what he was doing
Plus he’s somehow got like 4000,000 followers
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 29, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Btw, I really don't give a shit that it was leaked. Everyone knew Rose won anyway
My problem is that this is some unnecessary drama while we’re in the middle of the Playoffs. The fact that CJ leaked it, can’t be sitting well with players and management
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 29, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt it's that big a deal.
But then you see all kinds of reasons for players to get in the dog house.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 29, 2011 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
the only people who would be upset are the people who would leak it to ESPN tomorrow morning anyway
they’re just upset they got beaten to the punch. sorry, Sam Smith.
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by dantheman3k on Apr 29, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
why would any player care? its good news about a teammate.
he isn’t tweeting the secret chemistry enhancing jokes of pargo, or anything.
by NoVertical on Apr 30, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't mean he didn't know what he was doing.
I’m saying it’s gonna be hard to keep something a secret with so many players in the NBA on twitter. Yes it was stupid.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 29, 2011 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
why was it stupid? the media has some god-given right to break news??
by NoVertical on Apr 30, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Michael Eisner is gonna fuck CJ Watson up
or is he no longer the CEO of Disney?
it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs
by BigforkBullsFan on Apr 30, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha, i don't know what eisner is up to these days...
But i do remember his short lived cable show had like 10,000 people watching nationally, total. So C.J’s 400,000 twitter followers speak volumes: THE PEOPLE HAVE CHOSEN SIDES.
oops, *400,000
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 29, 2011 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I kinda agree with Sam
It’s certainly not a huge deal, but it’s just kinda dumb for a teammate to do. If it wasn’t, why didn’t Ronnie or Kyle or Booze, or any other Twittering Bulls do it?
As for Sam, he’s probably just pissed because he doesn’t get to break it
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 29, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
People are thinking too much now
"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw
I don't think you can call it dumb because his teammates didn't do it
we have no clue why they didn’t.
by Stacey_Is_King on Apr 29, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Really? So CJ is the only guy that felt the need to do it?
And then Sam Smith (a writer employed by the Bulls), feels the need to come out and criticize CJ publicly. Sorry, but he did something wrong. Probably not a big deal at all, but I guarantee he wasn’t supposed to do it.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 29, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Whaaaat?
"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw
All I'm trying to say is that CJ fucked up
Obviously it’s debatable how badly he fucked up. Most people here apparently don’t think it’s a big deal, and I pretty much agree.
I was just trying to point out that it was kind of a dumb move for a bit player like him to make. Some of these guys do dumb shit with their Twitter accounts. Now Rose is gonna have to dodge media questions all the way until Tuesday because CJ let the cat out of the bag a little early.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions
what if the bulls were all like together
and they were playing poker right, and the wager was whoever lost the biggest would have to break the news. mainly cuz the rest of the players wanted to do it themselves, but they didnt want to be the ones who got in trouble. SO cj lost the poker match, (and jannero didnt cuz thats why hes in the nba, to play poker and take other BETTER nba players money), and had to tweet while the rest of the guys snickered and went “HEY ROSE WE MADE IT OFFICIAL FOR YA<LETS CELEBRATE NOW” (obviously this is boozer, hence the all caps)
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Apr 30, 2011 2:35 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sam is worried that is the end of journalism
Did Kyle Korver just dunked? And what? Bogans made 15 points?! No, no... This can't be real
by JustAnotherFan on Apr 30, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The end of journalism is whatever he's doing at Bulls.com
(No offense to Sam, cause I actually like him. But come on now, he might as well start wearing Rose jerseys on press row)
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
omg
who the fuck cares.
and Hansbrough was eating... he was eating chocolate chip cookies with a fork.
by SoulEater7 on Apr 29, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
who is trying to keep it secret? why?
stupid
by Basketball Smurf on Apr 29, 2011 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
The league, I would assume
They like to keep shit like this under wraps, and announce it at their preferred time. Which I’m sure is not right now if the only person that’s talking is CJ Watson
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
lol didn't Kevin Love break the McHale firing over twitter last year?
it’s not like this was bad news… nor was it really any “secret”
at least he didn’t tell Derrick what Sam got him for his birthday.
Guilty Simpson should be our starting SG
by Rose Colored Goggles on May 1, 2011 2:01 AM CDT up reply actions
seriously saddened by the hinrich news..
i know we all want an easy series, but it’s kirk. :(
Boozer singing: My toes, my knees, my shoulder, my beard.
by JLbuLL on Apr 29, 2011 8:53 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
I was kinda sad at first too, but I'm over it now
They weren’t gonna win with him, and at least this way we don’t have to deal with Hinrich fucking with Rose. He would’ve just been an extremely annoying traffic cone. Better that Rose gets to conserve more energy.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 29, 2011 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope so.
I just hope it doesn’t give Atlanta a reason to thug it up more on Rose with no one decent to defend him.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 29, 2011 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sad.
I wanna sweep.
and Hansbrough was eating... he was eating chocolate chip cookies with a fork.
by SoulEater7 on Apr 29, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
heartless!!!
Boozer singing: My toes, my knees, my shoulder, my beard.
Yep and I like beating them at full strength, their best shot.
Course that’s easy to say when it’s Atlanta and especially Kirk being hurt. Hope this isn’t major …but it sounds so.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 29, 2011 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude gets too much love
While BG is vilified its ridiculous. Really hard to care much at all.
"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw
by Camry on Apr 29, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Kirk was traded
BG went for more money. Big difference.
Boozer singing: My toes, my knees, my shoulder, my beard.
yep
kirk got overpaid while he was here. BG is overpaid as a Piston. Big difference
by Basketball Smurf on Apr 29, 2011 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
he really did.
but i can’t blame the org for thinking he was the future of the franchise during that period.
See the most important parts are the ones that are unseen
See the wings don't make you fly and the crown don't make you king
no kirk fault
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by JLbuLL on Apr 29, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
ha!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 30, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Nah
BG wasn’t offered a contract… Kirk was traded.
Kirk is a Hero of worship. BG is a villain thats just how it was played for some odd reason.
People ate up whatever the organization said pretty much and so BGs"prerogative" was money according to Swirsky.
Some just dislike BG irrationally I gave up a long time ago trying to pinpoint why.
"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw
by Camry on Apr 30, 2011 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, but then he came to his senses and tried to accept it
and the organization was all like “Nah, screw you”
It’s just that people are scared of the unknown. What I have seen of him is exactly what we need and I can’t believe he isn’t being at least gotten some burn after all we’ve seen. -SoulEater7
He did one year
But the next year he asked for the same deal and the org was like “nope, you done goofed”
I really like both players still
I keep trying deals in the trade machine to bring them back.
i love ben gordon
way too much too care about his contract negotiations. he was a great bull
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Apr 30, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
yep. too much love. too much hate as well.
"if Jonny [Flynn] loved playin competeant basketball az much az he loves de movie Salt
he might be ok."
- MAYNHOLUP
it doesnt matter.
"if Jonny [Flynn] loved playin competeant basketball az much az he loves de movie Salt
he might be ok."
- MAYNHOLUP
YEAHHHH BOOOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!
See the most important parts are the ones that are unseen
See the wings don't make you fly and the crown don't make you king
Pizza Lunchable! YEAH!
Thibs got his team a chemistry set for Christmas
by livesinnoahsbasement on Apr 29, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
It's Pizza Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-YLI894wH0
It’s just that people are scared of the unknown. What I have seen of him is exactly what we need and I can’t believe he isn’t being at least gotten some burn after all we’ve seen. -SoulEater7
Why is the pizza boy wearing Dwight Howard's number?
and Hansbrough was eating... he was eating chocolate chip cookies with a fork.
bogus. damn se7 you've turned on the hate more than usual lately. lol
but i would agree with you that i’d rather see dwight with that bulls #12 jersey on
See the most important parts are the ones that are unseen
See the wings don't make you fly and the crown don't make you king
this image is from that game
the first game i watched after dynasty bulls disbanded, it was the start of my bulls-fandom (since technically when i watched the dynasty bulls, i was too young to actually comprehend fandom)
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Sucks for Kirk
"Are you drowning them or makin' love to them?"
by Bullsarenumber1 on Apr 29, 2011 9:25 PM CDT reply actions
dare i say it jeff teague....difference maker?
working with nick van exel link
J.UST E.NJOY T.HIS S.HIT
he did play really well in that one blowout game
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 29, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok, what is teauge's defensive reputation, how tall is he, and most importantly
DID HE GET THE MEMO!
by #1humblebot on Apr 29, 2011 11:21 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
who cares? derrick will just blow by him.
unless he’s 6’7" or above and has a wingspan of 7 feet he wont give rose much trouble
See the most important parts are the ones that are unseen
See the wings don't make you fly and the crown don't make you king
No one gets the memo
You always were second best! And in this business, Bub, second best don't *cut* it!
I swear this was never a problem, until GarPax unleashed Vinny into the organization
You always were second best! And in this business, Bub, second best don't *cut* it!
by Yibs on Apr 30, 2011 12:01 AM CDT reply actions 22 recs
lol, it's an epidemic!
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
rec and a half. that's excellent.
i wonde if the hawks coaching staff calls him kurt
1 + 5 + 9 + 13 = 7
by sloantojordantorose on Apr 30, 2011 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions
wizards called him elmer
and yes i know what ur thinking….
GLUE
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
did u mean to link a picuture of gasol or am i missing something?
You always were second best! And in this business, Bub, second best don't *cut* it!
gah what the hell
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Apr 30, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
They called him "Kirk Hinrich" in that article.
I thought his name was “Kurt”. Oh wait….
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 30, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I seriously get confused now
Every time I type his name I have to think twice about which one is the real one
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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 30, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
watching the last hawks-magic game
it seemed like one of the announcers had settled for “Kurr”
last letter TBD
by darksmokepuncher on Apr 30, 2011 6:22 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Vinny name hypnosis smash!
It’s just that people are scared of the unknown. What I have seen of him is exactly what we need and I can’t believe he isn’t being at least gotten some burn after all we’ve seen. -SoulEater7
LOLOLOLOLOL
Took me a second to realize it was “Kurt” and not “Kirk”.
Well done.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 30, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL
And it’s still like that
Derrick Rose will be suspended by the NBA because he has broken too many ankles.
ROFL
I just had to check it out. I can’t believe they haven’t fixed it yet.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 30, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
A day later, it has been fixed...
You always were second best! And in this business, Bub, second best don't *cut* it!
man... wow
Z-Bo is playing great. I couldn’t believe the shots he made on that game. He beat some good defense.
Did Kyle Korver just dunked? And what? Bogans made 15 points?! No, no... This can't be real
by JustAnotherFan on Apr 30, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Alright. Sorry to be the wet rag. But it seems like NOBODY
is giving the Hawks a chance. They just beat Orlando. We struggled with Indiana. Boozer, now hobbled, will be trying to guard Josh Smith; and if you thought Jeff Foster dirty, wait until you see Zaza. Possibly the filthiest, floppiest player in basketball.
I do think we win. But I think people are dissing the Hawks, and it may bite us in the ass.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Yeah I'm not that confident either
Jamal and JJ can give us a lot of trouble. I think we pull this out but not so sure it will be a walk in the park
Did Kyle Korver just dunked? And what? Bogans made 15 points?! No, no... This can't be real
by JustAnotherFan on Apr 30, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I think well be fine
But you are right. IT sounds like an automatic sweep on these boards. Reminds me of after game 6 of the Blackhawks/Canucks series, 670 the score made a song ripping on Luongo and thats all they did all day is rip apart how terrible he is and how terrible of a collapse they had, and how easy it is for the Blackhawks to win game 7 with that momentum and carry it the rest of the way to the stanley cup… then they lost. ITS THE PLAYOFFS PEOPLE, let alone the second round. Proven teams, a will to win, watch out Bulls.
That being said, Bulls win in 6.
GO BULLS AND BLACKHAWKS!
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Apr 30, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you here.
It is a danger to get overconfident, but the only way the media has an effect is if the players start listening to that stuff.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 30, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
The Hawks sucked
Orlando just sucked worse.
"You control the rebounds, You control the game"- Hanamichi Sakuragi
by T.Moore on Apr 30, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
We should win yes but also if we take them lightly as the media has of course we can lose.
Gotta focus and I hope it doesn’t take a loss to happen. Indy should remind us we need to bring our A game against anyone.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 30, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
filthiest? floppiest?
nocioni is still in the league right?
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Apr 30, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
it's alright as long as
the team doesn’t underestimate them. We can do that for the team. :)
Boozer singing: My toes, my knees, my shoulder, my beard.
Probably for the best:
KCJHoop K.C Johnson
Carlos Boozer sitting out practice again. He’s riding a stationary bike.
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the bike symbolizes his defense
he appears to be peddling, but he really isnt going anywhere
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Apr 30, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
josh smith hating kirk
http://www.nba.com/playoffs/2011/eastseries4/index.html?ls=st&g=6&t=v
its at the 1:44 mark
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
that's just Smith playing around
ribbing the good old Kraptain good naturedly
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
Anything negative about Kirk was immediately squashed when this happened.
Hinrich was all ’FUCK RONDO!" before any of us uttered it.
I remember when they showed Kirk about to whoop some alien ass in his tribute video at the UC. It was the only non-basketball play, and it was simply awesome.
"Freeze it!... now roll it!" -Stacey King, greatest analyst ever.
by WalmartSecurity on Apr 30, 2011 1:33 PM CDT reply actions 9 recs
Looking back at the video of that incident
it’s weird how Rondo turned such an innocuous play into, well, his best Carmelo-backpedaling impression
-Jeeves The I in Team
Look at his bitch ass
making it appear he’s walking towards Hinrich after he backpedaled about 15 feet back faster than Bolt could run forward
"Word of advice, don’t join, Bears fans are crazy."--- D-Jackfan10
this is awesome
also: our lineup is so different from just two years ago.
1 + 5 + 9 + 13 = 7
by sloantojordantorose on Apr 30, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
If you want a good way to spend a saturday morning
buy game 6 on Itunes. Its so worth it.
by JockstrapNoah on Apr 30, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
How can you forget this?
Derrick Rose will be suspended by the NBA because he has broken too many ankles.
Bradass!!!
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
That's what they called for that?
Seriously?
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 30, 2011 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
It was just a foul, not a flagrant.
Even after the league hq reviewed it, which was total bullshit. Bulls still should have won that series.
This life long, extremley passionate Bulls fan has chosen to cheer alone.
- sloantojordantorose
by JockstrapNoah on Apr 30, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Tell me something I don't know.
The sheer number of horsecrap calls in that series was mind-boggling. The only way those calls happened is if the NBA told the refs they wanted the Celtics to win.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
If you are grouchy, irritable, or just plain mean, there will be a $10 charge for putting up with you.
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 30, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, you can also look at it this way.
The refs helped produce Game 6, the most entertaining game ever. Its so good I’m going to have to watch it again tomorrow. I wrote a long review of the game before this season started to serve as a bridge between the Captain Kirk era and the Thibs era, but I never got it good enough to post. Maybe I’ll try to re-edit it and post it tomorrow. As WalmartSecurity eluded to above, it was Kirk’s finest moment, a window into DRose’s promise, and overall a perfect capture of all the flaws and great aspects of all of those Bulls. And that team didn’t have Pargo, which helped tremendously.
This life long, extremley passionate Bulls fan has chosen to cheer alone.
- sloantojordantorose
by JockstrapNoah on Apr 30, 2011 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I look forward to reading that.
I couldn’t watch that game … at all. I was flying from Philadelphia to San Francisco, and the game started after my flight left Philly but before I arrived in SF.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 30, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
oh you havent watched that game yet?ever?
if you still havent, take some time to watch it. :)
Boozer singing: My toes, my knees, my shoulder, my beard.
Haven't seen it yet.
I got in to my uncle’s at Napa, and he told me the Bulls had won in triple overtime.
I had no idea what kind of a game it was like. Granted, I was still in awe about Game 4 of that series, but, from what I heard, Game 6 was even better.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
State high point count: 3/50
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by Vermont Cubs Fan on Apr 30, 2011 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
that one still makes me angry
seriously, after that shit, I fully endorse anyone going out to explicitly trying to injure rondo. Fuck that guy in every nonsexual way possible
by SidM on Apr 30, 2011 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
1-800-382-57060 1-800-FUCK RONDO!
thats right it takes 12 numbers
"You control the rebounds, You control the game"- Hanamichi Sakuragi
and we lost that effin game because brad missed the FT
(he’s still dizzy lol) flagarant and we wouldve won that game and series maybe
Boozer singing: My toes, my knees, my shoulder, my beard.
Leave it up to Vinny to give a back massage in that situation.
"If the Bulls are healthy it could get ugly." - Joakim Noah
by bryield on Apr 30, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Alex Kennedy
AlexKennedyNBA
I’m hearing that Derrick Rose will be named the NBA’s 2010-11 MVP. An official announcement could come as early as this week.
Alex Kennedy broke the CJ Watson signing right ?
I think he has an in with CJ Watson.
by JockstrapNoah on Apr 30, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Boozer hilarity >>>> his shitty play
I don’t care about Boozer’s ineffectiveness, Rose can overcome.
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
Ack, no Bulls games this weekend to wash away another Sox loss...
My prediction: Bulls in FOUR. Yep, sweep.
Our manager wears 13, we were supposedly cursed, and we wear black. Let's play.
T. Moore, I still miss tyrannasaurus and for good reason.
I would love seeing him playing on this team instead of Boozer. Give him the same minutes and he would provide at least as much as Boozer’s 14/9 offense and a lot more. Of course it would be hard to match Carlos’s incredible help defense. Tyrus, Omer, Taj, Brewer would cause nightmares for the opposition, defensively. I think under Thib’s direction, Tyrus could have flourished and the Bulls pressure would have been relentless for all 48 minutes almost every night.
After watching Boozer’s ineptitude, sadly, not from a lack of trying, I’ve grown to love Taj and am always happy when he replaces the lost one. Not to beat a dead horse but per 82 games:
TT’s Simple rating this year was +3.8, Gibson’s +0.3, Boozer’s +0.2.
Net On/Off court +/- Boozer -48 Taj -78 Tyrus +286
stats per 36 minutes
Thomas .471 fg% fta 5.7 ft% .787 reb 9.4 steals 1.3 blocks 2.8 t/o 2.7 points 17.5
Gibson .466 fg% fta 3.1 ft% .676 reb 9.5 steals 0.8 blocks 2.2 t/o 1.5 points 11.8
Boozer .510 fg% fta 4.7 ft% .701 reb 10.8 steals 0.9 blocks 0.3 t/o 2.9 points 19.8
Can we assume that Tyrus’s numbers would have been higher playing for the Bulls than for the hapless Charlotte pussy cats? Either 24 year old TT or 25 year old TG would be a better option than the overpaid aging, plodding Carlos and I do believe if memory serves me, they would come much cheaper as well.
As a reminder Tyrus shot .625 from the field and .833 from the line during last year’s playoffs against Howard’s Magic. Boozer failed miserably on both ends against the dynamic defense of Tyler Hansbrough and I don’t blame it all on the owie on his big toe as much as his recurring brain cramps and almost complete lack of lift. This lack of speed enables the refs to observe all of his flaws in slow motion and they have cut him no slack.
Back to the present, I would be shocked if the Atlanta Iso’s can extend the series to 5 games. In their last meeting the Bulls were up 47 points in the 3rd quarter and with Kurt out of action they don’t have a prayer as long as D Rose stays healthy. How can they win 4 games when the Bulls have lost only 3 of their last 31?
After this cakewalk is completed, I fear the Magic may prevail with their 8 man rotation (the starting 5 and the 3 officials) so go Rondo, you despicable rodent and bring the 3 AmEgos to their knees in shame for having trumpeted their own greatness before the first tip-off had begun this season. The Celts are too old even if they do escape the Heat and Kobe better start preparing the way to give up his crown as Mr. playoff clutch to a new kid in town. PS: does anyone realize the baseball season is in full swing, or better yet does anyone give a shit?
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by Tyrusmancrush on Apr 30, 2011 11:03 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Now that Thibs is here
He might have become a smarter player and that would make him better. Taj is better more balanced and plays a bit smarter. but if TT’s offense is at least half as good as his D it would be pretty awesome
"You control the rebounds, You control the game"- Hanamichi Sakuragi
There are a number of players post MJ that Thibs could have helped greatly.
The shame of it is it’s past now. It will be an interesting off season, seeing what options are out there and what trades are available. One thing I am sure of….none will help us in the playoffs now.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 30, 2011 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
The guy who starts Keith Bogans would have helped all the Bulls past projects?
I actually don’t have a problem with Bogans starting, but I find the belief that Thibodeau would have been the great nurturer of Tyrus Thomas or any number of other Bulls developmental projects humorous.
I don't think a lot of us are even mentioning baseball
because the Cubs and Sox are both sucking so hard right now.
…Love live T-squared!
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
i used to watch baseball and was a fan
but i got bored of the game its too stagnant not enough energy on both sides ya know?
See the most important parts are the ones that are unseen
See the wings don't make you fly and the crown don't make you king
Tyrus had the million dollar body and the 10 cent head
He just didn’t get it. He never really understood where he needed to be and often looked lost.
I don’t think Phil Jackson could have turned him into the basketball player we all wanted him to be.
Its so easy to judge another person's intelligence.
fuck that. Tyrus Thomas was good, that Bulls dropped him.
This life long, extremley passionate Bulls fan has chosen to cheer alone.
- sloantojordantorose
by JockstrapNoah on May 1, 2011 3:10 AM CDT up reply actions
on his head??
That would explain a lot
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on May 1, 2011 3:20 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Your posts are consistently brilliant.
This life long, extremley passionate Bulls fan has chosen to cheer alone.
- sloantojordantorose
by JockstrapNoah on May 1, 2011 3:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I think playing for the Bobcats actually helps Tyrus's +/-
And possible his offense too, as I bet he is given quite a bit of freedom.
I want to start the games to start now?
What does the league have against ATL I think they have had the most games on NBATV of any game wouldn’t a Sunday marquee of the league MVP do well ratings wise?
Atlanta?
Small market obviously and I suspect the team that the NBA (as well as the fans which tv ratings are obviously the most important) thinks has the least chance of winning the second round much less going further. Plus they have no big stars on the team. Yeah Chicago is a big market but that’s the only draw here with Rose….and he hasn’t been a star in the league until this year.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 30, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I should add to this, as much as I agree that I want the game to start tomorrow,
it’s helping Rose and Brewer and Boozer to have an extra day of rest, rehab, light practice or whatever they are getting. It may not be good for us but it’s good for them.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on May 1, 2011 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, let's hear it for Thibs!
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on May 1, 2011 11:40 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Is anybody else expecting Luol to off this series?
It was just a thought I had last night. I just checked his stats, and he averaged 20 points, 6 rebounds and 3.7 asts against the Hawks in the regular season, on 51% shooting. That’s while only shooting 28.6% on 3s. If he can hit his 3s this series I could see him averaging 25 points.
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