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2011 Playoffs Bulls - Hawks: Early look at matchups, past and present

From what I saw this morning, Sam Smith had the most comprehensive initial look at the potential matchup against Atlanta. Not sure if this next bit means much, but it made me ponder as I strive to find any potential pitfalls for the Bulls in this series:

Frankly, I don’t see how the Hawks can get a game. Maybe they get one because you can miss shots. I may record the series and watch it after it’s over and watch the Celtics and Heat, instead.

I thought Magic coach Stan Van Gundy made a salient point about the Hawks in his post game following the Magic’s elimination. I still thought they’d win after being down 3-1 because I think so little of the Hawks.

Van Gundy was too discreet to phrase it that way, but basically Van Gundy said they were front runners. You know, get them behind and they give up.

"Five of the six games they had double figure leads," said Van Gundy. "We got them down one time (and won easily, Game 5). If you get them down they are not good coming from behind. They are great from out in front."

That’s possibly one small issue with the Bulls. The Bulls tend to ease into games and don’t have many quick starts. They did so against the Pacers in Game 5 and blew them out. Rose tends to feel out games and usually doesn’t score big early. The Bulls may have to push him to be more aggressive to start.

Again, not sure that actually means much. Ultimately the Bulls have the type of defense that Atlanta usually doesn't get creative or patient enough to exploit, and on the other side they have even fewer answers against Derrick Rose than initially believed with Kirk Hinrich injuring his hamstring last night.

Sam also takes a look back at the season matchups. From the BaB archives, here are the recaps from the March loss and the later-in-March blowout win, possibly the most impressive victory of the season.

I suppose the question remains that if they're so bad, how did they beat the Magic? It really could've just been a unique matchup with the Hawks deploying Jason Collins to slow Dwight Howard, and the Magic being anemic otherwise. That won't be as advantageous against the Bulls, and in fact the Hawks may be best to abandon it while they're ahead.

Again, little out there that suggests the Bulls won't be firmly in control. I'll let the fantastic Hawks blog Hoopinion put it succinctly:

There is no bullish Bull for Jason Collins to defend and there is no Atlanta guard* who can reasonably be expected to stay in front of Derrick Rose.

*Hinrich mostly stayed in front of Rose in the blowout loss in Atlanta on March 22nd but did so by giving Rose open jumpers which Rose knocked down at an unsustainably high rate. Even Hinrich would be looking to slow, rather than stop, Rose.

Plus, the Hawks scored 98.8, 89.4, and 94.2 points per 100 possessions in three meetings against the league's finest defensive team. Without a specialist to drag Chicago's (admittedly average offense) down to their level, with Chicago's best player positioned to exploit Atlanta's greatest defensive weakness, and Al Horford having suffered an additional injury since he led the Hawks to their lone victory on the strength of their two lone competitive quarters against the Bulls it's difficult to envision Atlanta competing in their next playoff series.

Winning a game against the Bulls would be some sort of mark of progress.

And of course make sure to also check out Peachtree Hoops in the coming days.

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by Fukudometer on Apr 29, 2011 10:55 AM CDT reply actions  

I Bullieve

The bulls do win this in 3. (JBJ stated previously)

Rose will play like Rose, A proven All-Star and MVP.
Deng will quietly average 21 this series.
Boozer will quietly sit and twiddle his thumbs.
Taj is going to bust out a bigger hard hat and lunch pail.
Noah will play like a beast-hyper maniac.
Asik will destroy. It’s his nature.
Bogans will dance like Lady Gaga.
Korver will be shooting daggers from beyond the arc.
We will see a longer sighting of the Butler, He will be serving up dishes of 3’s. the arc.

oh and we should check for snippers before Zaza steps on the court & Crawford for that matter. They both flop.

Thibs got his team a chemistry set for Christmas

by livesinnoahsbasement on Apr 29, 2011 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

i think booz will have a breakout series

everyone will love him again and SCREAM HIS NAME!!!!!

Boozer plays like an old Taj and Arenas plays like an old James Harden

I love the playoffs

by Belize on Apr 29, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

what stan is saying is: ATL has no heart

Boozer plays like an old Taj and Arenas plays like an old James Harden

I love the playoffs

by Belize on Apr 29, 2011 11:01 AM CDT reply actions  

kinda like when the miami writer called them birdbrains and said orlando would easily come back

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Apr 29, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

i can't stop lauging at that
But if Horford plays center, Noah will guard him with Boozer on Josh Smith, who likes to float outside and shoot jumpers. Which, actually, is fine because he’s a lousy shooter and it makes his teammates mad.

by SidM on Apr 29, 2011 11:08 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Last year I thought Josh Smith got it.

Then this year he lost it again and started jacking it up from outside.

by Tim S. on Apr 29, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Why do I feel like his jumpshots will be money when Boozer gaurds him

You always were second best! And in this business, Bub, second best don't *cut* it!

by Yibs on Apr 29, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

No kidding

God help us if Josh Smith shoots 33 % against us

by tuluse on Apr 29, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

But.. Bosh too..

wasn’t his 1 for 942 against Booze?

At $300 million, I don't want Albert Pujols anywhere near the Cubs.

by DisCUBbobulated on Apr 29, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I remember correctly

Noah guarded Bosh during the Feb. 24 game in Chicago in which Bosh went 1-18. Bosh went 7-18 (Jan 15.) and 9-14 (Mar. 6) in the other games. In fact, Bosh played really well in the first game, until he went out in the 3rd or 4th quarter after the famous ‘Asik and Destroy’ ankle dive.

I was just recalling some jump shooting PFs off the top of my head that I remember Boozer not closing out on very well. Re Hansbrough – just because he didn’t knock down his open looks after game 1 isn’t necessarily indicative of great defense by Boozer, but it could be that Hansbrough just isn’t very good.

"If the Bulls are healthy it could get ugly." - Joakim Noah

by bryield on Apr 29, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Kevin Pelton at Basketball Prospectus

argued that the Magic won game 5 because of fortunate fouls to Howard and Turk. Turk was pretty bad the whole series, and the Magic relied too much on Howard for offense, leaving everyone else standing around. John Hollinger has argued that Collins and Pachulia were good enough to guard Howard one on one, and that was enough to win the series.

Also, the Hawks did not play up to their potential during the season. They did tend to give up when behind, both in individual games and in competing for playoff seeding. They have some talent, though, if everyone is on his game. I could see them getting hot and winning a game from the Bulls, much like the Knicks did before their trade.

If Hinrich is out, though, that’s a killer for the Hawks, because he’s the only one who can slow Rose. Also, if Noah keeps playing like he did in game 5 against the Pacers, that will also make it tough for the Hawks to steal a game.

I hope the Bulls use this series to get Boozer healthy and in sinc before the Eastern Conference Finals. As frustrating as he can be, we need him at his best, and I’m not convinced that he has suddenly lost what he had last year or even earlier this year.

by Tim S. on Apr 29, 2011 11:08 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

aww man,

i know hollinger feels like a tool after last nights loss

mVp my ass

Boozer plays like an old Taj and Arenas plays like an old James Harden

I love the playoffs

by Belize on Apr 29, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hollinger picked the Magic over the Hawks.

He apparently doesn’t think team success should factor into the MVP award. If Kevin Love were a better defender, he might have argued for Love to get the award.

by Tim S. on Apr 29, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I got that from his picks.

Sort of like the old school Andre Dawson MVP in baseball. Most Valuable Player based on who means the most to the team. It does get tricky when you have several teams with one big star and then have to come up with a secondary formula for the best choice.

"Fast Don't Lie"

by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 29, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Howard was sooooo bad, wasn't he?

C’mon man.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Apr 29, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

He did turn it over an absurd amount

But still, yeah, Howard was not the reason the Magic lost the series, unless you blame him for frightening every Magic player that touched the ball on the perimeter so they’d all miss constantly.

by kbukie on Apr 29, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You make a good point

I know he was awesome, but he did turn the ball over an insane amount of times. It would be nice to hear the stat guys that criticize Rose at every opportunity mention that, rather than just salivate at his lines. Last I looked, him and Rose were about the same in Playoff PER, and that includes two pretty huge clunkers by Rose against a defense that was trapping him at half court constantly

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by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 29, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

also, howard had 3 assists in 6 games. 81 shots, 88 FTAs... and 3 assists.

33 TOs as well. hard to run an offense through that.

"if Jonny [Flynn] loved playin competeant basketball az much az he loves de movie Salt
he might be ok."

- MAYNHOLUP

by TheMoon on Apr 29, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

i mean, even nick young must have watched these games and thought

“man, dwight should really try to get some other guys involved.”

"if Jonny [Flynn] loved playin competeant basketball az much az he loves de movie Salt
he might be ok."

- MAYNHOLUP

by TheMoon on Apr 29, 2011 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Well I would expect DH saw that after the first half of the first game.

Where he put up an insane amount of points but were well behind. The bigger problem to me was the other guys didn’t step up at all…unless you mention Jameer or Arenas at times. They lived by the perimeter shots , 3 pointers…and died by them. I think it’s more a problem of strategy in coaching than DH.

"Fast Don't Lie"

by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 29, 2011 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was he the reason they won the...oh wait

"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw

by Camry on Apr 29, 2011 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

nah, he played his ass off

im just saying that 1 man dont make a team. he balled tho

Boozer plays like an old Taj and Arenas plays like an old James Harden

I love the playoffs

by Belize on Apr 29, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

They got bounced the first round

Hes talking about being MVP. This shows they weren’t realistically even a contender. If the object is to win I think part of being most valuable has to strongly be influenced by winning.

"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw

by Camry on Apr 29, 2011 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another Bulls-Hawks preview

Basketball-Reference.com’s Neil Paine projects the Bulls of having a 93.3% likelihood of winning the series, based on full-season results, and a 97.7% likelihood based on post-trade deadline results.

"Krause insists that a long neck translates into wasted height."

by bigintangibles on Apr 29, 2011 11:20 AM CDT reply actions  

I can't believe the margin of error justifies the extra decimal.

Let’s round it off to 90%. I still think the Hawks could get hot and steal a game.

by Tim S. on Apr 29, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Five things in particular that are encouraging about this Bulls-Hawks series:

1. The Hawks are the worst defensive team left in the playoffs, and their best (and only above average) defender may be injured for the series.
2. The Hawks’ offensive “strategy” involves strictly isolation sets, with very little ball movement. The Bulls’ defense is particularly designed to handles these well and close out on shooters.
3. The Hawks were outscored on the year, and gradually performed worse as the season went along. The Pacers were the only other playoff team outscored on the year, but at least they got better as the season went on.
4. The Hawks are also the worst offensive team left in the playoffs, and the only above average offensive players that gets consistent minutes are Horford and Williams. The best thing that can be said about Joe Johnson and Jamal Crawford this year is that they “could catch fire”. Both are terrible defensively.
5. The Hawks are the only team the Bulls played this year where they had at least a 20 point lead in each game. Yes, the second half of that first game was probably the worst half the Bulls played all season, but they’ve blitzed the Hawks in 10 of the 12 quarters they’ve played.

by kbukie on Apr 29, 2011 11:22 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Wait, I was wrong

The Hawks actually had a 2 point halftime lead in Chicago. Then the Bulls blitzed them. So, 8 of 12 quarters.

by kbukie on Apr 29, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's it. Bulls in 2.

The Playoffs: That magical time of year when I become a fan of every team that Lebron James isn't playing for.

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 29, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

cmon, don't be shy.

i know you want to say Bulls in 1. :)

by JLbuLL on Apr 29, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

ho do you link something, then delete it?

damn it darth one

Boozer plays like an old Taj and Arenas plays like an old James Harden

I love the playoffs

by Belize on Apr 29, 2011 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Boozer plays like an old Taj and Arenas plays like an old James Harden

I love the playoffs

by Belize on Apr 29, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Trying to finally earn your money, huh?

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Apr 29, 2011 11:38 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I wanna see the Bulls gorge the Hawks.

Why the hell would a Hawk wanna rumble with a Bull anyway?

"Shit just got real" - anorexorcist.

by illwill on Apr 29, 2011 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm usually wary of being tooooooo confident about this series.

But I just can’t help it here. Even if it goes six on a fluke, I think it’ll “feel” like an easier series victory than the Pacers one.

"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"

by ColonelFatheart on Apr 29, 2011 12:16 PM CDT reply actions  

D'oh.

“I’m usually wary of being tooooooo confident about this series.”

"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"

by ColonelFatheart on Apr 29, 2011 12:16 PM CDT reply actions  

HA!

Boozer plays like an old Taj and Arenas plays like an old James Harden

I love the playoffs

by Belize on Apr 29, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beautiful.

"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"

by ColonelFatheart on Apr 29, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

does it even matter?

Rondo’s man can just play zone anyways.

by diedaily23 on Apr 29, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

they should leave him to nature

he can’t score anyway

Did Kyle Korver just dunked? And what? Bogans made 15 points?! No, no... This can't be real

by JustAnotherFan on Apr 29, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Though JVG makes an interesting point

that leaving so much space for Rondo to operate gives him clean looks at assists. Getting into him more reduces his overall effectiveness, even if he might drive by you here or there.

I thought it made some sense.

by Brooklyn Bulls on Apr 29, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Flashing traps at him could solve that.

Rondo has his sweet spots where he decides to drive and kick. Getting to him before he does that could throw off his game.

"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"

by ColonelFatheart on Apr 29, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

toe shit!
KCJHoop K.C Johnson
Boozer didn’t practice.

by JLbuLL on Apr 29, 2011 1:06 PM CDT reply actions  

i look at it as good karma

Taj now starts = championship

Boozer plays like an old Taj and Arenas plays like an old James Harden

I love the playoffs

by Belize on Apr 29, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I like Taj in there better.

Thibs got his team a chemistry set for Christmas

by livesinnoahsbasement on Apr 29, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugh. Whatever.

The Playoffs: That magical time of year when I become a fan of every team that Lebron James isn't playing for.

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 29, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

True, but the Pacers had the highest "Gritty white guy" differential in the history of the league

The Playoffs: That magical time of year when I become a fan of every team that Lebron James isn't playing for.

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 29, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

And I'm pretty sure Atlanta's number 2

Since Kirk has to be worth like a million points in that category.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Apr 29, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they'd have to immediately bronze his goggles and send them to the Hall if he does that

The Playoffs: That magical time of year when I become a fan of every team that Lebron James isn't playing for.

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 29, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just realized

that if Captain Kirk can’t start, we can let them have Pargo & Scal.

Thibs got his team a chemistry set for Christmas

by livesinnoahsbasement on Apr 29, 2011 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Its awesome that Hinrich gets traded by the Bulls

and not only gets to play 5 regular season games against them, but potentially 7 more. Hinrich just can’t quit chicago.

by JockstrapNoah on Apr 29, 2011 1:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Even more interesting

the only other team that Hinrich played 5 games against this year in the regular season? Orlando

by JockstrapNoah on Apr 29, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm upset with his injury

a kirk hinrich led hawks team would just be too epic for this series to contain. God has robbed us of storyline saturated basketball.

This life long, extremley passionate Bulls fan has chosen to cheer alone.
- sloantojordantorose

by JockstrapNoah on May 1, 2011 3:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Does anyone here know how this turf toe thing works?

Like is it a week thing, or a month thing? For example, if they sat Boozer from this past Tuesday, until the ECF (knock on wood), would that really help? I’m still not even sure what that injury is, exactly.

The Playoffs: That magical time of year when I become a fan of every team that Lebron James isn't playing for.

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 29, 2011 1:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Every injury for Boozer

is a week thing at least.

Boozer singing: My toes, my knees, my shoulder, my beard.

by JLbuLL on Apr 29, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shit, that's right. I forgot Taj had it. Good call

The Playoffs: That magical time of year when I become a fan of every team that Lebron James isn't playing for.

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 29, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

But their recovery time could be very different

Considering Taj’s overall commitment, work ethic, hard hat, and lunch pail. Boozer? HE JUST TWEETS.

"If the Bulls are healthy it could get ugly." - Joakim Noah

by bryield on Apr 29, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

.
if i lost 6 inches of my verticle, every time id jump i would go 4 inches under ground

Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.

by hedonism bot on Apr 29, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's worse for basketball players

Because jumping is hard with turf toe and they need to accelerate a lot from one side to another all the time.
Plus NBA schedule is cruel because it’s the kind of injury that gets worse if not treated
usually it’s about weeks (or days if immediately rested) but can take months. Taping helps a little

Did Kyle Korver just dunked? And what? Bogans made 15 points?! No, no... This can't be real

by JustAnotherFan on Apr 29, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Man, that sounds bad.

So, do you think he should just rest? They shouldn’t need him against the Hawks.

by Tim S. on Apr 29, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever, I expect Boozer to play.

Turf toe is when your big toe experiences sharp pain and stiffness due to excessive use of that toe. It’s something you can play through as the toe is not broken, but needs treatment and rest for it to go away. Havent seen Boozer make many quick moves to the basket or hustle much for the offensive boards in the playoffs. Hes all about positioning right now. He should play.

by MCREW on Apr 29, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

...
they gave taj a different shoe

Taj has something called heart… booz… well.

never forget...
1.7%
anything is possible...

by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 29, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe they're just not having an important practice or something
McGrawDHBulls Mike McGraw
No Boozer at practice today (turf toe), but everyone seems to think he’s going to play Monday in Game 1.

The Playoffs: That magical time of year when I become a fan of every team that Lebron James isn't playing for.

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 29, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

It football it usually takes a few weeks to get over

If the guy doesn’t play. When you play on it, it takes longer to heal.

So I could see Boozer being healthy for the finals.

by tuluse on Apr 29, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wednesday?
KCJHoop K.C Johnson
This is Stern handing ROY to DRose two years ago. I predict same scene with MVP at Wednesday’s Game 2. http://plixi.com/p/97118599

Via KC’s Twitter

by Option27 on Apr 29, 2011 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

heh

that is probably it

Did Kyle Korver just dunked? And what? Bogans made 15 points?! No, no... This can't be real

by JustAnotherFan on Apr 29, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bingo.

"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"

by ColonelFatheart on Apr 29, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't want to go into a series overconfident,

but the Bulls really destroyed the Hawks in their last two meetings, and their loss was that bizarre breakdown where we were up by 20 at the half. At least against Indiana the season series was relatively close and their defense was decent over the second half of the season; Atlanta is not close to as threatening. The last two years the Hawks have been swept in the second round; and looking at their splits, they have gotten considerably worse as the year went on.

Bulls in 4.

"Derrick Rose is an unstoppable force of getting to the rim."
-Jon Barry

by Morphic Resident on Apr 29, 2011 2:09 PM CDT reply actions  

That's right, I forgot how that last game went

happiest person on the planet right now: Floyd Mayweather.

by YaoPau on Apr 29, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I wonder how many Bulls fan that didn't vote for Deng in the ASG

would vote next year

Did Kyle Korver just dunked? And what? Bogans made 15 points?! No, no... This can't be real

by JustAnotherFan on Apr 29, 2011 2:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I voted for him, Rose, Noah, Boozer, and... yep... Ben Gordon.

"If the Bulls are healthy it could get ugly." - Joakim Noah

by bryield on Apr 29, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I voted for him.

I don't always block shots, but when I do....I block yours.

Kyle Korver is open as soon as he gets out of his car at the UC. -

Stacey King

by sue369 on Apr 29, 2011 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

what an absurd question.

"if Jonny [Flynn] loved playin competeant basketball az much az he loves de movie Salt
he might be ok."

- MAYNHOLUP

by TheMoon on Apr 29, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

and that was a terrific answer

sam smith still has some wit in his old age it seems

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Apr 29, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah T-Macs a better passer could actually run point

Way more explosive back in the day too.

"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw

by Camry on Apr 29, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cool! lol

Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!

by Dils on Apr 29, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a better fit in Indiana.

He can whine and cry with Granger.

by Wake on Apr 29, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

one injury prone guy for another....

how much difference would it make?

"Fast Don't Lie"

by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 29, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

if I knew Brandon Roy's knee was done deteriorating

I would strongly consider it. But I think it may continue to get worse for Roy, which is sad. Loved his game, especially when he was in college.

by Basketball Smurf on Apr 29, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

This.

It’s really sad at such a young age.

"Fast Don't Lie"

by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 29, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

like i said in the other thread

i really think this’ll prepare us perfectly for miami
iso offense much like miami’s only with less potent players.

and noah is going to have a cakewalk guarding bosh after battling horford all series

The quest for seven is on.

by sin on Apr 29, 2011 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

To an extent.

I’m not really expecting Miami to get past Boston, but if they do the Bulls are really the underdogs despite sweeping the Heat during the season. Why? Officiating. Damn refs and the damn star calls Wade and LeBron are going to get is going to be ridiculous.

by Wake on Apr 29, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

boston scares me for the simple fact that doc rivers could simply out coach thibs in that series

watching boston play and us play we basically both run similar plays and our defenses are very similar so in the end its going to come down to 2 factors
execution – edge boston imo
and star power – edge chicago

The quest for seven is on.

by sin on Apr 29, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

man i'd flip those two.

garnett, pierce, allen, and star power goes to us? dunno about that. I think we usually overcome it with execution though its tough to argue about a coach who worked under Doc as less until he beats him.

"Fast Don't Lie"

by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 29, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

honestly i dont see garnett and allen being that huge of a factor

simply because we can put noah on garnett. and really ray allen isnt that fucking hard to stop if you jsut dont ever leave him no matter what.

its pierce and rose who are the ones that wil llikely go off here and there

The quest for seven is on.

by sin on Apr 29, 2011 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

That sounds right.

I was just talking about name or star power. I haven’t seen Garnett or Allen torch us a lot.

Though I would say getting Bogans to lock down on Pierce as he did the last game is going to be something to watch. If that happens 2 or 3 times in a series I sure like our chances.

"Fast Don't Lie"

by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 29, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

"ray allen isnt that fucking hard to stop if you jsut dont ever leave him no matter what."

Perfect role for Bogans: he can defend Allen even when the Bulls are on offense.

by jpx7 on Apr 29, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I can see the whole out coached scenario.

Similar to that Nelly/Johnson situation in the past.

 But I’m more scared of the Heat because of the sheer talent. Seeing Wade fouling his way to a championship was a sickening sight. Now with LeBron in tow you know that doubles the threat. Getting into early foul troubles during that final game with the Pacers was just…ugh. Plus Spo isn’t really that good as a coach. He’s serviceable but the Heat are winning games out of sheer talent. Which is pretty sad but daunting.

I prefer Boston because you know what to expect. I view them as the Detroit Pistons to Rose’ Michael Jordan. There’s unfinished business there and I just want the Bulls to win a playoff series against them.

by Wake on Apr 29, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I prefer them also because of their age.

And I would agree that Wade and LeBron will get more favorable calls than the Celts. Obviously that’s a guess. Either way, if the Heat can play enough as a unit to harness that talent they have, they’re the most dangerous thing out there because of their age. As you say with Boston you know what to expect. I think they are a little more dangerous with Jermaine O’Neal stepping up but stilll…they are past their prime while Miami is very much in their prime. That talent may win out over chemistry, team play and good coaching.

"Fast Don't Lie"

by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 29, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate, hate, hate this excuse

If we lose any games to them, it won’t be because of refs.

by Stacey_Is_King on Apr 29, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

i can just see it now

ect
they meet at center court for tip off
bosh does his attack call

then noah says “im going to show you what a real post player looks like”

bosh stops his cry, looks at noah puzzled and thats when noah does….

WHAM

he busts out with this!!!

“THAT, BOSH…..IS WHAT A REAL POST PLAYER LOOKS LIKE” he says handing bosh the picture

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Apr 29, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its funny because Noah manhandled Gasol in earlier in the year

Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.

by hedonism bot on Apr 30, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sam Smith said ZaZa will have a flagrant or two over the course of the series.

Yeah I’d say that’s money. The only thing that Indy did to us (beyond jumpshooting with an insane % at times, and yes Atlanta will obviously do that) that seemed to work was thugging it up. You have to know ATL will watch the film and think pushing us around will slow us down. The only question will be is if ZaZa does it or someone else…I’d say it will be a group effort. If Hinrich is either very hurt or out of a lot of games you can bet more “hard” fouls will be coming. What other way can they defend us?

"Fast Don't Lie"

by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 29, 2011 7:06 PM CDT reply actions  

BANNED FROM OPP YESSSS!

THATS MY FIRST SBN BAN! MOM WOULD BE PROUD!

never forget...
1.7%
anything is possible...

by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 29, 2011 7:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I knew that was coming.

Hell, I might even change my sig to “fuck the executions”
i just know im gonna be on the list. just know it.

never forget...
1.7%
anything is possible...

by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 29, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't get cocky BAB

not trollin, but the series just might not go as you may think

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on Apr 30, 2011 9:01 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah damn

there’s a chance that atl will average more than 80 points a game..

"I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed."
--Michael Jordan

by BullsCharge on May 1, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

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