2011 Playoffs Bulls vs. Pacers Preview: Blogging with the Enemy in Indiana
(make sure to check out the full-bore series preview from earlier, if you haven't already)
This week I corresponded with Tom Lewis of the fantastic SBNation Indiana Pacers blog Indy Cornrows, with some questions on how the season has gone for his Pacers and what we can expect in the upcoming series.
My questions are in bold, his responses in quotes:
1. The Pacers midseason coaching change from Jim O'Brien to Frank Vogel seems to have brought pretty significant changes, with more defined roles and the team generally playing harder. What in particular have you seen different in the team from style of play to changes in the rotation?
Frank Vogel likes to project the Pacers now as a smash-mouth team that starts inside and then works out which is vastly different than the team's approach under Jim O'Brien which focused on playing at a fast pace and shooting three-pointers early and often.
Now the Pacers work to get the ball in the lane either by passing into the post or driving into the lane which draws more trips to the line. Danny Granger in particular is much more inclined to force the ball in the lane now as opposed to forcing up three-pointers.
As for the playing rotation, Vogel has turned to a more defensive-minded player in Dahntay Jones off the bench instead of James Posey and also given a larger role to Tyler Hansbrough and Paul George. All three of those players, bring more energy to the court even if they lack the experience to consistenly produce.
2. In the preseason, the acquisition of Darren Collison seemed to be a masterstroke by Larry Bird in that he didn't have many assets to deal yet still landed what projected to be a long-term starter at the PG position. What's your evaluation on Collison's first season as a Pacer overall? and while he may be physically overmatched against Derrick Rose, how can you see him faring in the series?
Overall, Collison's first season has been a disappointment based on a few different stretches in the season when he struggled mightily with turnovers while also struggling on the defensive end. Collison has finished the season playing quite well at times and definitely trending in the right direction. Sometimes we forget he is still 23 years old and Vogel is the fourth coach he's worked under in his two years in the NBA.
Collison will be a key to any success the Pacers have against the Bulls. He'll definitely need help at the defensive end in dealing with Rose, but I don't think he'll be expected to defend Rose, let alone all by himself. Collison's impact will have to be at the offensive end, pushing the pace and applying pressure on the defense while being able to knock down the mid-range jumpers his quickness can create. When that shot is falling, it really opens up the offensive options for everyone else.
3. What's the mood like in Indianapolis? Has the fanbase been so ready for a return to the playoffs that even backing in is fine, or do they (or you) think it would've been better long-term to get another high lottery pick instead? Are you worried that Bulls fans are going to fill up Conseco Fieldhouse with MVP chants?
There's certainly no consensus but I think the young core of players for the Pacers has shown they are worth backing and rooting for and any playoff experience is a great thing to help with their development. The last four lotteries haven't been kind to the Pacers so a playoff appearance is much more appealing than moving up a few spots in the draft for yet another young player that likely won't be demonstrably better than the young player they can get at 15.
Bulls fans will be out in full force in Indy without a doubt. I've likened it to a high school atmosphere in the past where fans of both teams are chanting back and forth. Game 3 should be a blast with an electric Fieldhouse regardless of the breakdown of fans. Game 4, though could be brutal if the Bulls are going for a sweep. I have a feeling Bulls fans will be more motivated to get in the building than Pacers at that point.
4. Outside of the greatest upset in NBA playoffs history, what would you like to see from the Pacers (or certain players in particular) in this series to consider it a success?
Lack of consistency has been a killer for the Pacers all season, so the baseline level of success is if they can bring a consistent effort and even some consistent production for every game. The Pacers shooting consistency often impacts the effort consistency which can be maddening. It's easy to bring the effort when shots are falling, but finding a way to compete when buckets are a challenge would be a positive step for the Pacers.
Like I said, that's the baseline for success, admittedly a pretty low bar. Winning at least one game in addition to playing well throughout the series is really what I expect, though. The Pacers have shown they can play well enough to beat any team in the league with wins over the Lakers, Heat, Celtics, Mavs and Bulls. Consistency, or lack thereof, is the killer with this crew though so how much they can sustain that winning level of play in this series will determine the level of success.
Thanks again to Tom, he has a fantastic blog that you should all get familiar with, this coming week in particular.
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I'm kinda shock how everyone is treating this series. I'm not saying the Pacers will upset but..
I think it’s going to get very very chippy and closer than most people think. The media is already talking Heat and Bulls. There is no way a team with Posey, Dante Jones, Jeff Foster and Josh McRoberts won’t be getting in at least 6 fights in this series. I think Indiana can get a game and put up a fight at least. Just shocked how confident everyone is. Hope I eat my words though.
I would not be surprised if they push it to six games...
But maybe that’s just my own pessimism talking. (Watching the Bulls for the last decade and being a Cubs fan can bring this upon you.) I’m really eager to see what both teems bring in this series, and maybe I’ll get a better Idea on where things stand tomorrow afternoon.
"Nothing can happen till you swing the bat." -Haruko Haruhara
by windycitywarrior on Apr 15, 2011 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I kinda feel the same way, timid about being too confident.
We will know more after game one.
We need to set the tone, and as Rose would say, “Play with an edge”.
Are those guys fighters?
This series is Duke Central, and it’s a 1 vs 8 matchup where one team had a losing record this season. I’d be surprised if they try to start anything, especially with resident badasses Bogans/Boozer/Kurt staring them down.
(Side note: think how much different the feel of this team would be if there was no Bogans/Kurt, and Brewer/Omer got extra minutes instead. I imagine it’d be the most happy-go-lucky team for about the first forty games of the season until other teams saw them as a threat, and then we’d wonder if they were too soft heading into the playoffs. Now? Never even mentioned.)
Hell yeah!
Posey, Jones and Foster are going to try and start shit. You watch. They will try to take the Bulls out of their games.
Well, they won't succeed, so ...
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Why do you imagine that?
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I'm kinda looking at it in a different way
Sure, I guess they could give us some problems, but if we can’t beat the Pacers (fairly easily), we have no chance at a title, so who gives a shit? We’ll just be disappointed later anyway. In other words, why worry about a garbage team when your aspirations are much higher?
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 15, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn’t Boston have two 7 game series when they won the title though
"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw
Yup.
And the first round was against a Hawks team that won only 37 games during the regular season. The Hawks improved after a mid-season trade (for Bibby), Pacers improved after changing head coaches mid-season.
The Chicago Bulls....have a young star, Derrick Rose, who must learn to live with the tearing down of his MVP candidacy as rapidly as he constructed it. - Woj
yeah, I guess that's true
But they still did win those series. So, there’s still no reason to be worried. Even if they won a game or two, is that something to be concerned about? (In response to what Souleater was saying)
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 15, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm just saying there are some people out there who have already put the Bulls and Heat in the ECF.
They have totally blown off the Pacers. Obviously the Bulls control what happens and not the media or fans but I’m just saying I could see a dogfight here. I mean maybe the Bulls turn it on but I don’t wanna see a long drawn out first round.
I'm not putting the Bulls in the ECF, but I'm definitely putting them in the next round
The Playoffs: That magical time of year when I become a fan of every team that Lebron James isn't playing for.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 15, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
They match up with the Bulls though... You could say the Bulls exploit a team like Miami.. because of their weak
point guards and centers. But Indiana has a player at each position and thats what scares me. They don’t have a superstar you can key on. They have physical players so I by no means see a cake walk. If the play anything like they did the last game it could be ugly. But Rose and home court will prevail. IMO.
The Pacers might be able to hang with us for a while during these games, but I see them having trouble at the end
Who can they possibly go to down the stretch in the fourth quarter that will be able to score on the Bulls’ D when they’re fully locked in? Danny Granger? Give me a break.
To me, that’s what this all comes down to. Nobody is saying (at least I’m not) that the Bulls are gonna win by 40 each game, but you’re underestimating just how difficult it’s gonna be at the end of games for Indiana. We just have another gear, and a player that’s too good for them to deal with. And they sure as hell aren’t gonna get big leads on us
The Playoffs: That magical time of year when I become a fan of every team that Lebron James isn't playing for.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 15, 2011 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
One point can get you a win. lol
I don’t think they’ll get big leads. Just saying it’s going to be scrappy and a physical series. I’m not saying the Pacers will win. I think they’ll play respectable.
Yeah, I;m sure it will. I already hate Hansbrough
The Playoffs: That magical time of year when I become a fan of every team that Lebron James isn't playing for.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 15, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I really don't see how they match up with the Bulls...
other than putting five players on the court as required.
Until we get a tagline, yfbb=your friendly Bogans blogger.
I'm more worried about the refs than the Pacers...
Clinched HCA throughout the fricking playoffs! MN: 16
I don’t think Indy is intimidated.
Much like the Bulls- Cavs series last year. I think Indy’s spirit of defiance is going to get them 1 win and probably a couple of close losses. Perhaps if the Bulls can really beat them down tomorrow, it’ll break their spirit and they’ll go down easier.
News flash: Luol Deng is good...We now return you to your regularly scheduled hating...
If those guys play meaningful minutes...
At least Foster, Jones and Posey. I think they have been in the new coach’s doghouse for some reason…
Until we get a tagline, yfbb=your friendly Bogans blogger.
Gotta love Hollinger!
Hollinger’s prediction: LeBron and Kobe to play for title (PER Diem: April 15, 2011)
Sweep those fuckers
They took away our perfect divisional record
by @jd on Apr 15, 2011 7:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
lol @ that caption
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 15, 2011 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Haha! Yes!
That’s how awesome Larry Bird is
"Are you drowning them or makin' love to them?"
by Bullsarenumber1 on Apr 15, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
And look at Collison
The Onion couldn’t have photoshopped it better.
by Brooklyn Bulls on Apr 15, 2011 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
After going over the Synergy stats and watching a bit of the Pacers
it would surprise me if this series went 5. The Bulls defense will have a lisence to play more physically, which does not bode well for Hibbert and Granger; moreover, despite the Bulls lack of offense outside of isos and PnR, Indiana doesn’t really have the personel to make inside scoring impossible (McRoberts and Foster are pretty good, but they seem to have a quagmire inside.) Nevermind Rose getting his ideal matchup.
by Morphic Resident on Apr 15, 2011 10:02 PM CDT reply actions
OT:
The Pick 4 in the Illinois Lottery tonight was 6 2 2 0.
The Chicago Bulls....have a young star, Derrick Rose, who must learn to live with the tearing down of his MVP candidacy as rapidly as he constructed it. - Woj
by chicity773 on Apr 15, 2011 10:29 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
lol seems coincidental..
See the most important parts are the ones that are unseen
See the wings don't make you fly and the crown don't make you king
can't sleep... need basketball...
You always were second best! And in this business, Bub, second best don't *cut* it!
by Yibs on Apr 16, 2011 12:12 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Bulls are the Leagues most cost-efficient team. JR has to be laughing all the way to the bank!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-forbes-most_and_least_cost_efficient_teams_041511
The top five:
1. Chicago Bulls
2. Oklahoma City Thunder
3. New Orleans Hornets
4. San Antonio Spurs
5. Denver Nuggets
I hope we can keep our team when we
have to resign Rose. If he tries multiple trades to keep that efficiency….
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 16, 2011 2:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Wonder if OKC was number 1 before they traded for and extended Perkins.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
from the pacers' twitter (it says confirmed so i'm going to assume it is the team's PR)
We’re less than 8 hours from the tipoff of the 2011 NBA Finals. Preview: http://on.nba.com/gorLs8
less than 5 seconds ago via CoTweet
we’re in the finals already?! lolwut!?
See the most important parts are the ones that are unseen
See the wings don't make you fly and the crown don't make you king
Can these gd games just start already? Too jacked up right now
Plus, tomorrow we get to see the Bulls-Heat-Magic right in a row. Both teams we’ll likely be facing on our way to the promised land.
The Playoffs: That magical time of year when I become a fan of every team that Lebron James isn't playing for.
by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 16, 2011 3:08 AM CDT up reply actions
That is pretty funny.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 16, 2011 3:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Man, why is Skip Bayless such a hater? I just saw a vid of him saying that the Bulls just lucked into the overall number 1 seed.
Championship or Bust
It's his schtick.
He’s created a lot of buzz for himself calling out star players and teams for not being as good as everyone thinks. Often it doesn’t work of course, but when it seemingly does it gets him seen as smarter than the rest. Which to me is like just throwing crap at a wall and when it sometimes sticks hey you’re a genius. Like Cowherd and Hollinger I ignore them. Cowherd and Bayless just like to be different and be blowhards to get attention…nothing I waste my time on.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 16, 2011 5:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's gotta have something to make that ugly mug look viewable.
Plus it makes that scowl jussssssst right.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 16, 2011 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I've never understood why people hated him before.
Usually I thought he was fairly complementary of the Bulls (let’s be honest; right now if someone doesn’t say the Bulls are #1 at everything, 80% of the fan base freaks out). Kind of like how I think the Hollinger hate was overblown.
That, though — I saw that video where he said the Bulls “lucked in to the #1 seed” the other night. I really thought it was pretty ignorant; everything he said had such a blatant double standard. He made an excuse for Miami because they had new personal and had to adjust all year — how much of Chicago’s roster + coaching staff is new this year? And saying the Bulls had their record handed to them on a silver plate, because towards the end, D12 was suspended for the Magic game and Amar’e was out for the Knicks game. So, is that to say that between the Thunder, Lakers, Spurs, Magic, Celtics, and Heat, that none of them played a game this year where the opposing team was missing a key player?
I have zero qualms with him saying Rose isn’t the MVP — there is no shame in being considered in the top 5, and you could make equally compelling arguments for a handful of people. I have zero qualms with him predicting another team to come out of the East, because I have my questions too about if this team is quite Finals ready. Claiming they didn’t earn their regular season record, though, I think that is just classless. The Bulls dealt with their fair share of injuries, growing pains, et cetera. They ended 62-20 because they worked hard and refused to give in to slumps.
ASIK AND DESTROY
I would say that
My view of him being an idiot was of him liking the contrarian role of many teams and players in many sports and had nothing to do with the Bulls specifically. Actually I rarely saw his opinions of him this year since I thought he was a terrible analyst years ago and stopped watching him. I do think you are right about his views on the Bulls winning a championship or the MVP…certainly there are qualified opponents for both. I didn’t see him say we lucked into the #1 seed…have no reason to raise my blood pressure by hearing him. I do know you can’t luck into winning 62 games. Especially dealing with injuries as you say here.
"Fast Don't Lie"
by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 16, 2011 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions

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