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Bulls(1) vs Pacers(8) THE PSYCHO SERIES.


I have to say when Bird had fired Jim O'Brian I thought the Pacers were done and they'd fall into the draft lottery fodder. The Pacers lost seven of their past eight games to drop to 10th place in the Eastern Conference. Ironically O'Brian's last game was against the Bulls in which he was ejected. 

Bird was bothered by O'Brien's refusal to give more minutes to the team's young players. Bird said he'd like to see rookie Paul George play more, and he was frustrated with how little forward Tyler Hansbrough played early in the season. He felt that O'Brien's public berating of centerRoy Hibbert damaged the 7-foot-2 center's confidence. Bird and Vogel agreed that Hibbert is an important piece of the team's future.

"We have a three-year plan and we're right on it," he said. "I looked the other day and we're going to have more money than anybody in the summer to go out and either trade one of our expiring contracts or go into the free agency market and get the pieces we need."

Is this a future rival? After the last meeting I'm starting to believe we'll see this team a lot in the future. 

linkage if ya want. 

This series is all about hating PSYCHO T. The guy is a tool. He's their newest version of Reggie Miller.. not in talent or ability but likability. Seriously this is going to be a chippy first round series with a team that really matches up well with the Bulls. They've had physical meetings in the past and I can only assume a playoff series will raise emotions.

Maybe Kurt Thomas can give Psycho T a nice vet mind game... 

But the other matchup ups that make me feel like this will be a tough series is Darren Collison.. yeah Chris Paul's old backup. He's a scrappy little fellow and can certainly ball. 

"We're trying to head to the playoffs with a little more momentum," Collison said. "We're a young team. We just can't take games off and expect to turn it on."

I think he's a underrated point guard and should be a rival for Derrick Rose after this series. He's not a bad defender and can certainly ball. He's become a pass first PG but can also score making him dangerous. 

The other matchup is Noah vs Hibbert. Noah struggles with size but his ability to run the court can be an advantage for the Bulls. 

They certainly have thugs in Foster, Dahntay Jones, Josh McRoberts and James POSEEEEEEEEEEY!!! Hell I'll even throw in Dunlevy's flopping white ass in there. (I can say that I'm white, I'm entitled!!!!) 

I don't think this will be a cakewalk as some think. Can't wait!

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I'd like to see a game 1 blowout

Just be more physical, win the rebounding battle, foul hard and all that. Show them they aren’t in the same league that we are. The last thing you want is them matching us in “grimyness” and thinking they can play with us, because they do have size, rebounding and outside shooters.

by M 80 on Apr 10, 2011 11:37 AM CDT reply actions  

In the last matchup against the Pacers

the Bulls were playing on the road on the 2nd half of a back-to-back, so I cant give the Pacers all the credit for beating the Bulls that game.

I think the Pacers are a good young team, but I dont see a star player among their core. Granger has plateaued, maybe even regressed a little. Collison is good, but he is not a top tier PG with DRose. Their frontcourt with Hansborough and Hibbert lacks athleticism.

It’s also good that the Pacers will have all this salary cap this summer, until you look at this summers FA list. I think the best FAs this summer are Zach Randolph, David West (maybe), and Jason Richardson. They are good players, but certainly not like last years FAs. Then there is a little thing like a lockout to contend with.

Bulls in 5, at the most.

by VaderMaul on Apr 10, 2011 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

I wouldnt know anything about that

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/37370032/ns/sports-player_news/

Though this report says he might not be directly involved.

I listed Randolph to show who the FAs are this summer. I think Randolph probably will resign with the Grizzlies.

by VaderMaul on Apr 10, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Bulls are a good team and back-to-backs aren't excuses anymore.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Apr 11, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think he's referring to previous seasons

last season it took us until january before we won a game on the second night of a back to back.

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I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.

by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST

by Jaina on Apr 12, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

No Superstar will go to the Pacers and I think Granger will leave

I think that they will be in mediocre hell. Too good to get high draft picks not good enough to be a high seed.

by jayr67 on Apr 10, 2011 12:33 PM CDT reply actions  

That is a trap especially in a smaller market.

It’s been interesting to watch Charlotte after Jordan wanted to avoid the same thing. Guess time will tell if he traded for the future or traded to get worse.

"Fast Don't Lie"

by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 10, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Definately not gonna be a pushober team, but I really rather play them than Philly

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by Belize on Apr 10, 2011 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

pushover*

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by Belize on Apr 10, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

*Definitely

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Apr 11, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

He really is quite hateable

I can only imagine this getting much, much worse once the games start

I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 10, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I keep hearing what a punk he is.

What are the reasons everyone dislikes him? I really haven’t paid that much attention to him.

"Fast Don't Lie"

by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 10, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm the worng person to ask

i hate everyone not in a Bulls jersey. Although I’m sure it has something to do with his college career and the fact that he’s a complete spaz

I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 11, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well he seemed to exaggerate being a humble worker

when he played for North Carolina…I wondered if he played dirty or did something weird off the court. Who knows. I didn’t see anything worth mentioning googling his name. Guess I’ll get to know him better once the playoffs start and the physicality goes up.

"Fast Don't Lie"

by Sandberg's evil twin on Apr 11, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think its just his style.

He’s not deliberately a jerk like Reggie Miller was, he just comes off wrong on TV. I like him though, so I’m also the wrong guy to ask.

by JockstrapNoah on Apr 11, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's do business and rest up for the rest of the playoffs.

Apparently, Orlando fans think they will sweep the Hawks, or take it in 5 games. And they called ME overconfident.

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by wrigleyrocker12 on Apr 10, 2011 6:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Jesus

why am I so nervous!?

Did you guys hear about the new Lebron James Iphone?
You have to keep it on vibrate because it has no rings.

by Rudey on Apr 10, 2011 6:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Because

YOU ARE EXCITED!

Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!

by T.Moore on Apr 10, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same here man

watching that heat game today jacked my nerves up even more. They look really good

I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 10, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’m gonna love this whole run because of it if anything.

"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw

by Camry on Apr 10, 2011 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

The heat match up with this version of the Celtics pretty good.

And the celtics just suck. That was fools gold for the Heat to beat a team like that.

by JockstrapNoah on Apr 11, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

The fact that Dunleavy is back does scare me a little.

He’s given us problems in the past. Plus they’re gonna have a bunch of guys on the floor that hit shots. We really should win, but it could be a lot tougher than we thought

I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 10, 2011 7:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Ah I forgot about Dahntay Jones. He's straight out of the Q-Rich/Matt Barnes school of

Act like a complete jackass on the court because you lack any other real skill.

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 10, 2011 7:47 PM CDT reply actions  

The ghosts of Reggie Miller and Michael Jordan will haunt this game

But when the lights come on, who will be left standing. I think it’s the bulls. Thank goodness.

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by hoopinions on Apr 10, 2011 8:05 PM CDT reply actions  

As far as I can tell...

The one major question I have is about Darren Collison, is it certain that he can ball?

But the other matchup ups that make me feel like this will be a tough series is Darren Collison.. yeah Chris Paul’s old backup. He’s a scrappy little fellow and can certainly ball.

I think he’s a underrated point guard and should be a rival for Derrick Rose after this series. He’s not a bad defender and can certainly ball. He’s become a pass first PG but can also score making him dangerous.

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by kidronmusic on Apr 10, 2011 10:19 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

He played tough against Rose.

From what I read his teammates really like him.

by SoulEater7 on Apr 10, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

But he can certainly ball.

Whatever that means.

I only post cotton candy. Because it's delicious.

by Prevenge on Apr 15, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

anyone know why game 4 tickets are not for sale yet?

I go to school in indiana and tickets are dirt cheap in conseco

by lcohn89 on Apr 10, 2011 11:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Ticket numbering system

The only games that are available are Pacers home games one and two, which mean game 3 and 4. Just pick Pacers game 2, I already bought my tickets for game 3 for about $40.

Get to the Choppa!

by Fred Hoiberg on Apr 11, 2011 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Does anybody know the schedule yet?

I don’t think I could get to Indiana on a weekday, but on a weekend I’m all about it.

by arjoseph on Apr 11, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

THANK you

previously bought game 3.. thinking it was home game 1 for pacers… just switched to home game 2 for pacers (game 4)… you saved me money.. appreciate it

by lcohn89 on Apr 11, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just looking forward to seeing Danny Granger eating his own words at series end
“Boston’s a different monster,” Granger told the Indianapolis Star. "They don’t have the best record in the East, but they won championships. They know how to do it. They have four, five guys you have to worry about, from (Paul) Pierce, (Rajon) Rondo, (Kevin) Garnett and (Ray) Allen.

“Chicago, they go as Derrick Rose goes. If you make a concerted effort to stop Derrick Rose, you have a better chance to beat them.”

by jsptvo on Apr 10, 2011 11:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah Danny, nobody has done it all year long, but your stupid team is gonna be the one that stops Derrick Rose

I’m actually quite happy he said this. It adds a little juice to the series

I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 11, 2011 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree but

Danny should worry about Luol Deng. Luol is enough trouble for Granger on both ends

by JustAnotherFan on Apr 11, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is why it's outrageous:

Teams have been gearing their defenses to stop Rose all year. And the Bulls have won 60 games. It takes so much energy/focus/attention to even try to stop Rose, that to do it effectively you open up the game for everyone else — and the Bulls have players who can take advantage.

So yeah, if you can stop Rose, that’s great. But it probably means that Luol is getting 30, and you’re still losing.

by arjoseph on Apr 11, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Implying that the Pacers can "stop" Derrick Rose

is one of the most outrageous things I’ve ever heard

I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 11, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

No hes not right… this Boston team only won one championship. Not only that you they can’t stop D-Rose. We destroyed them 3 out of 4 games and had to play our absolute worst for them to beat us.

"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw

by Camry on Apr 11, 2011 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eating his words?

It’s not like he’s wrong. Boston has more guys that you would consider weapons, and if you stop Derrick Rose, the Bulls are beatable. Unfortunately for Granger, that’s much easier said than done.

It’d be one thing if he had come out and said “we’ll stop D. Rose and win the series.”

by Grinder in Training on Apr 11, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

If stopping Rose means double teaming him at all times, he will make you pay by finding the open man. The Bulls have several players who can score at will playing 4 on 3. And even if Rose has a subpar game, the Pacers still have to score on the Bulls’ No. 1 defense. The Bulls are not last year’s Cavs.

by Tim S. on Apr 11, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not if Joakim Noah isn't100%.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Apr 11, 2011 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

WOW.

Great acting by Psycho T.

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by anorexorcist on Apr 11, 2011 10:14 AM CDT reply actions  

I think you overrate Collison.

A lot of things had to go wrong for the Bulls — particularly Boozer being injured — for the Pacers to barely win one game out of four during the season. If they win one game out of four during a seven-game series, well, they lose.

by Tim S. on Apr 11, 2011 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm not saying he'll some day be an ALL STAR..

I just saying he a respectable point guard that can give the Bulls problems in pick and roll. The last game the Bulls played I though he did a good job of guarding Rose. He didn’t have a great game last night and still had 16 points against the Knicks so he can score.

by SoulEater7 on Apr 11, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Per 36 minutes, Collison averages

6 assists and 3 turnovers. That’s not good.

by Tim S. on Apr 11, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yup

His turnover rate is pretty awful for a PG who doesn’t exactly attempt to thread the needle a whole lot like the Nashes and Rondos do.

Pat Riley is the devil.

by Poloplaya14 on Apr 11, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have trouble being worried.

They couldn’t even win 1/2 their games… and they played in the central. They may take a game or two… but this series will be over quick.

by silentpete on Apr 11, 2011 10:36 AM CDT reply actions  

They fired their coach because he wasn't playing their young talent right. Like Hibert, Psycho T and George.

I know the Bulls will win but judging by how they’ve played against the Pacers in the past I think it will be a very physical series. Foster, McRoberts, Jones is a thug. They should get in a few beefs.

by SoulEater7 on Apr 11, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

“To get to where you want to get to, you’re going to be challenged,” Thibodeau said. “You have to go through people. We need to focus on improving and trying to get better each day.”

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by Belize on Apr 11, 2011 12:17 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I'd like to point out that Indiana

is the HEARTLAND of basketball. There rims are 10’ off the ground too. All the dimensions are the same. Gene Hackman knows how to get the most out of his players so we’d better watch out.

by JockstrapNoah on Apr 11, 2011 3:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Too bad about the shot clock.

These new-fangled rules spoil the purity of the game.

by Tim S. on Apr 11, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Its about teamwork and execution!

You want to play showtime basketball? Go to UNLV! Its my way or the high way here or I’ll choke you, my gawd you have a sweet jump shot though, if its one thing Indiana knows its their jump shots!

by JockstrapNoah on Apr 11, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indiana is my least favorite midwestern state.

And 3rd least favorite over all after Florida and New jersey. I get dumber each time I drive through their little gods country little state. HELL IS REAL folks, that’s the first comprehensible thing you see when driving south on 65. So what if they have a huge windfarm in the middle of the state and some of the best waffle houses anywhere it just doesn’t make up for the pervasive sense of ignorance that clings to everything thing living and not living within the borders of that mistake of political organization.

by JockstrapNoah on Apr 11, 2011 3:17 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Indiana does suck

But you must have never been to West Virginia for it not to make your list.

by tuluse on Apr 11, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

ever drive W to E across Pennsylvania?

some nice mountains i guess, but most mind-numbing drive ever, and it just doesn’t end….it’s like Montana, except occasionally there’s a legitimate reason to cross it.

by SidM on Apr 11, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was kind of exciting

when the trucks I had passed on the way up barreled down on me on the way down.

by Tim S. on Apr 11, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like driving over the Rockies better, for a mountain view.

But for most mind-numbing drive ever (and yeah, I’ve driven across Pennsylvania, pretty bad), I’d have to go with the 7 hour hell that is crossing Kansas on I-70.

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by JStymie on Apr 14, 2011 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ever driven through Connecticut?

Let me nominate that.

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by Prevenge on Apr 15, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

CT is small at least.

ohio is the one i hate. it’s like 5 hours of absolutely nothing, and it’s a risk speeding there because they have horrible cops.

Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.

by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST

by Jaina on Apr 15, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think there was anything more devastatingly formative

in my basketball life than this

Win it for Bill Edwards, Derrick! Remember the Raiders!

by JockstrapNoah on Apr 11, 2011 3:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Is he touching James Harden's homeless guy beard?

You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
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by DocPepper on Apr 11, 2011 10:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Anyone interested in the Philly series should check out

the NBA Playbook preview. Sebastian Pruiti doesn’t think much of Darren Collison, the Pacers’ turnover-prone, undersized starting point guard, and suggests that the Bulls isolate Rose on him as much as possible.

by Tim S. on Apr 13, 2011 1:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Collison is an average PG who isn't really going to get better.

I was high on him in NO for a while, but … egh.

I only post cotton candy. Because it's delicious.

by Prevenge on Apr 13, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Should Rose isolate more and depend on screens less?

At least against Indiana, the undersized Collison cannot defend Rose. So why screen Collison and bring another bigger defender over to Rose? Why not just isolate Rose on Collison, again and again, until Indiana is forced to double team and leave someone else wide open?

I suppose a counterargument is that if Hibbert’s man sets a screen for Rose, that takes Hibbert out of the paint, which makes it easier for Rose to drive. But if I were Indiana I would just tell both Hibbert and Collison to aggressively double team Rose on the perimeter and force him to give it up. If the double team is aggressive enough, and if Hibbert’s long arms are part of it, Rose may be forced into a long, high pass which gives everyone on defense enough time to recover.

On the other hand, if Rose is isolated on Collison he can shoot over him at will from any spot he chooses. And if Hibbert is forced to leave his man to help, Rose can immediately dish it.

by Tim S. on Apr 14, 2011 2:22 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

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