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2010-2011 Game Preview #70: Bulls at Atlanta Hawks

[A back-to-back preview for Tim S.! Oddly placed national TV game (due to the NCAA Tournament), TNT at 7. -ed.]

We've seen the Atlanta Hawks twice recently, in Atlanta on March 2 and in Chicago on March 11.  The Bulls coulda, woulda, shoulda beat them the first time but the Hawks came back at home behind one of Hawks center Al Horford's best games and one of Rose's worst. 

The Bulls beat the Hawks handily the second time in Chicago.  The Bulls played great defense on Horford.  Hawks point guard Kirk Hinrich played Rose well again in the first half of that game, but Rose responded by driving to the basket repeatedly until Hinrich accumulated enough fouls that he had to sit -- and then Rose really went to town on backups Jeff Teague and Jamal Crawford.

This is the rubber match, the last of three games against Atlanta, and the Bulls should be highly motivated to show they can win in Atlanta.  Although the Bulls played last night and the Hawks did not, the Bulls' game was a blow out and I would hope they will feel rested.  I'll take a closer look after the jump.

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Although the Hawks have experimented with starting sophomore point guard Teague over Hinrich since the last game against Chicago, Teague has not been consistent and did not play at all in the Hawks' last game against Detroit on Sunday.  I'm guessing the Hawks will start Hinrich, who knows Rose's tendencies well.  Then again, Rose knows Hinrich as well, and let's hope he has figured out how to get him in foul trouble again.  Let's also see if Rose gets the same calls in Atlanta that he got in Chicago.

Whether Hinrich or Teague starts, it is likely that Crawford will spend some time at point, because the Hawks need both shooting guard Joe Johnson and Crawford to provide offense.  Rose should go to town whenever Crawford guards him because Crawford does not like to play defense.

As for Horford, the Bulls have plenty of big bodies to throw at him now, and will presumably focus on neutralizing the Hawks' best player (although not the best-paid player, right Joe Johnson?).  Power forward Josh Smith and Johnson did not have good games in Chicago, but they are capable of turning it around in Atlanta.  Josh Smith was great last year, right up there with Horford, but this year he fell back in love with his outside shot.  Small forward Marvin Williams can also have a good game from time to time.  Zaza Pechulia is an okay backup center, although the Bulls should thrive any time Horford is out of the game. 

In general, the Hawks' second unit is no match for the Bulls' second unit, perhaps the best in the league.  Asik, in particular, is getting better and better.  If Noah has any trouble at all with Horford, Thibs should not hesitate to bring in Asik.

The Hawks have either regressed this year or several other teams have passed them by.  On Hollinger's power rankings, if not in the standings, the 76ers and even the struggling Knicks have passed them by, while the Bulls have zoomed to the head of the Eastern Conference.  Although the Hawks beat Detroit by eight on Sunday, before that they lost at home 87-102 to Denver and 85-106 to Miami, prompting Horford to call a players-only meeting on Saturday.  Joe Johnson must wonder whether the extra money was worth passing up the chance to play with the Bulls. 

Nevertheless, the Hawks will want to show they can beat the best on their home court, Horford will want to play well against his old buddy Noah, and the Bulls had better play for all 48 minutes.  I trust that the memories of the March 2 loss are still fresh and the Bulls will take care of business.

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I wouldn't completely disagree

with your ‘Crawford doesn’t like defense’ statment but he is perfectly capable of playing the best 1-on-1 d against Derrick, as he is pretty damn athletic and probably longest guard that Atlanta has. Not saying he will want to grind on D but it isn’t like he’s old and slow.

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Mar 22, 2011 12:21 PM CDT reply actions  

No, I carefully chose those words.

He is athletic and long, but does not like to play defense.

by Tim S. on Mar 22, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jamal Crawford?

Saying “he doesn’t like to play defense” is putting it kindly

I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.

by Juiceboxjerry on Mar 22, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

seriously

If I didn’t know any better, I’d swear he was allergic to it.

by darksmokepuncher on Mar 22, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Being long and athletic doesn't mean he is capable.

Road to the Number 1 Seed Assassination Missions:

Kings: Mission Accomplished. Bulls dominant, Knicks useless. Tied with Boston.
Hawks:
Grizzlies:
Bucks:

Congratulations to the Central Division Champions: The Chicago Bulls!

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Mar 22, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he's physically capable.

Although by this point in his career it may be impossible to overcome the muscle memory that says “get out of the way!”

by Tim S. on Mar 22, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is $4.3M/yr. really the going rate

for a crappy backup center that doesn’t do anything especially useful?

"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."

by Ugh It Live! on Mar 22, 2011 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Well it was before he slipped back down...

He’s still a decent career PER guy, but the last 2 years he’s slipped back…..

It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!

by majoyenrac on Mar 22, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well

Joe Johnson must wonder whether the extra money was worth passing up the chance to play with the Bulls.

Good thing he wanted the money. Johnson has been bad this year. As much as we complain about Rose’s ineffeciency from time to time, Johnson is having a very poor year. Not that I wouldn’t rather have Johnson playing instead of Bogans or Brewer, but I definitely would rather not have him for his albatross of a contract.

"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight

by DRose01 on Mar 22, 2011 12:46 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Actually, if I know NBA players, he's thinking:

“Alright, just gotta keep quiet for the first year to seem like I’m grateful for the contract, then next season I can start bitching about how I want a trade”

(Unfortunately for Joe, nobody is taking that contract)

I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.

by Juiceboxjerry on Mar 22, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Come on Juicebox...

Its the NBA, somebody will take that contract…

Until we get a tagline, yfbb=your friendly Bogans blogger.

by Dionysus2.0 on Mar 22, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is true.

I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.

by Juiceboxjerry on Mar 22, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Travis Outlaw got 35 million for 4 years

There is a plethora of bad contracts out there

Bears. Bulls. White Sox.

by The Voiss on Mar 22, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe not the year that he did sign a max contract

But in 4-5 years, that contract would actually become useful (even if JJ isn’t by then).

Bears. Bulls. White Sox.

by The Voiss on Mar 22, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

No!

Joe Johnson is not wondering about if he played for the Bulls. It’s more like this everyday…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkB9OT2XVvA&feature=related

Pip's wife, thats all I have to say.

by SoulEater7 on Mar 22, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

Not sure what you mean?

Oddly placed national TV game (due to the NCAA Tournament)

NIT quarterfinal game is the only NCAA game tonight and who gives a shit?

"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight

by DRose01 on Mar 22, 2011 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

There are NCAA games on Thursday this week.

Therefore, TNT will not show NBA games on Thursday.

by drock8686 on Mar 22, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Just curious: What is it exactly that bothers you about someone saying that it's an "oddly placed National TV game"?

Regardless of whether the statement is true, or not

I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.

by Juiceboxjerry on Mar 22, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never said it bothered me

I just assumed I was being an idiot about something and wanted to know what it was. Didn’t bother me in the slightest, I just like to know stuff.

"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight

by DRose01 on Mar 22, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

ahh, my fault then

I misread the tone of your comment

I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.

by Juiceboxjerry on Mar 22, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Mar 22, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hawks suck

This will be another laugher.

by BullsFan22 on Mar 22, 2011 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe a good game for Kurt Thomas to get some minutes

Something about Boozer coming back from ankle problem going agaist Josh Smith and Al Horford is not too appealing.

You always were second best! And in this business, Bub, second best don't *cut* it!

by Yibs on Mar 22, 2011 1:39 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

No

keep KT in his cryogenic chamber until playoffs.

by El Toro de Goro on Mar 22, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I like the hawks better when Josh Smith is out.

Because Collins can provide decent defense at the center position and Horford gets more breathing room offensively. Everytime Smith touches the ball is better than Horford touching it.

by JockstrapNoah on Mar 22, 2011 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Ya

Horford has been a beast this year. But Josh Smith is still solid defensively. They just need to feed Horford the ball more with/without Smith.

"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight

by DRose01 on Mar 22, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

subtle Heat dig = win

I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.

by Juiceboxjerry on Mar 22, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree, its something that I love about this team as well.

Don’t you think its largely a function of their defense being so consistent. When your offense doesn’t need to be much better than average for you to win, you’re in good shape.

by NoVertical on Mar 22, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

TNT

I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.

"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley

by NBA Observer on Mar 22, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we shoot 70% from downtown again tonight?

The Hawks can have 6 guys out there and they’d still lose.

I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.

"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley

by NBA Observer on Mar 22, 2011 3:10 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

And I really like this take on the whole MVP thing also:
AschNBA Steve Aschburner
Anyone who wants to reduce NBA MVP to stats only: Create a “Most Outstanding Player” award — then don’t even bother with votes. Done.

I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.

by Juiceboxjerry on Mar 22, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats pretty much what scoring titles are for

"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"

by sin on Mar 22, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

But you get an award for it. Like how defensive players get awards. Makes sense

Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!

by T.Moore on Mar 22, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's just cause Ed Kupfer is an idiot

Read his two tweets before that one:

Boozer’s contribution to CHI’s defense datapoint #2: Utah went from 10th best defense last year to 24th this year.
Boozer’s contribution to CHI’s defense datapoint: CHI allowed 96.9 pts/100 poss with Boozer in the lineup, 98.4 with Boozer not playing.

I would love to argue this guy, but his argument against Rose involves Boozer being a good/better defender is just mind-blowingly dumb.

Bears. Bulls. White Sox.

by The Voiss on Mar 22, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Yes, that has nothing at all to do with Luol Deng, Joakim Noah, Taj Gibson and Omer Asik.

Nothing at all. We all just imagine that Boozer gets owned by almost any big man with skill in the league, or that the Lakers were basically running layup drills around him in the playoffs.

by Ozzie Montana on Mar 22, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention that Boozer missed the hard part of our schedule

And came back to feast on the bottom-feeders of the league.

Bears. Bulls. White Sox.

by The Voiss on Mar 22, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

And that the Bulls had not fully adapted Thibs defensive concepts

until 20 games into the season (right when Boozer returned).

by JockstrapNoah on Mar 22, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Does he watch the games?

Is there a stat that measures piss poor defensive rotation?

"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"

by ColonelFatheart on Mar 22, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is the very definition of a 'stat nerd'

basically, a basketball arithmetician, not someone who actually understands the game.

by Stacey_Is_King on Mar 22, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or he has never listened to sage advice:

“Statistics are like a drunk with a lampost: used more for support than illumination”
-Winston Churchill

Bears. Bulls. White Sox.

by The Voiss on Mar 22, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Some advanced stats are awful. Here's some examples.

Boozers D rating is 99, better than Roses, Watsons, Dengs, and Bogans.
Dengs PER is 15.5
Bogans O rating is 111, which is equal to Roses, and better than Boozers.

never forget...
1.7%
anything is possible...

by wrigleyrocker12 on Mar 22, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's a shit datapoint

but I am surprised that it has Boozer as a positive defense +/-, assumed caveats about that stat aside.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 22, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

YFBB has already put it best. It's bad that they only have the 13th ranked offense

But if there was no Rose they’d probably be the 29th ranked offense. That’s probably worthy of praise.

by Ozzie Montana on Mar 22, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is bumper sticker logic from that asshole

Sounds catchy until you think about it for about ten seconds.

Guns don’t kill people. People kill people.

by Bin Bin on Mar 22, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

How can Rose be the least essential part of the defense?

He logs long minutes and defends against the other team’s starting point guard in an era of great point guards. As good as Asik might be on the second unit, his minutes are far less than Rose’s and he’s often guarding the other team’s back-up center, and some of those back-up centers are really, really bad.

by Tim S. on Mar 22, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe Hollinger should ask Deron Williams whether Rose is the least essential part of that defense.

I seriously don’t get the reasoning behind the “criticism” that Rose’s value is diminished because he’s the most essential offensive player on an overall mediocre offensive team. So, since Amare Stoudemire has been the most essential offensive player on the Knicks, should he be higher than Rose?

And who are the most essential offensive players on the top offensive teams, I’d like to ask Hollinger. Or, could it be that these teams feature a lot of talented scorers and coaching systems that enable them to score a lot?

"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"

by ColonelFatheart on Mar 22, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rose is like rain.

When Rose is coming, D-Will’s wrist hurts.

by Tim S. on Mar 22, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

A least essentially part of a league best defense?

Yeah, I guess leading all points guards (and second to Wade among all guards) with 41 blocks is not at all an essential part of perimeter defense.

"If the Bulls are healthy it could get ugly." - Joakim Noah

by bryield on Mar 22, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

*essential

"If the Bulls are healthy it could get ugly." - Joakim Noah

by bryield on Mar 22, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Recently

Rose is blocking so many opposing PGs shots that they’re hesitating to shoot or finish on drives. This is extremely disconcerting to the other team’s offense.

by El Toro de Goro on Mar 22, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

- Insert obligatory Anti-Hollinger remark -

Here.

Road to the Number 1 Seed Assassination Missions:

Kings: Mission Accomplished. Bulls dominant, Knicks useless. Tied with Boston.
Hawks:
Grizzlies:
Bucks:

Congratulations to the Central Division Champions: The Chicago Bulls!

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Mar 22, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

This was not Hollinger's argument, as such. He was quoting Ed Kupfer,

and he then tweeted that Boozer is the least essential part of a league best defense.

by Tim S. on Mar 22, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

when people retweet things its usually because they agree with it

unless they add some kind of smart ass remark before it

"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"

by sin on Mar 22, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

for them! kirk is starting for the hawks

scalabrine runs everything. fuck scalabrine!

by marionette on Mar 22, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

You, sir, have my rec.

"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"

by ColonelFatheart on Mar 22, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah but bogans is starting for the BULLS

"I ran into lebron last night, asked him for a dollar. He gave me 75 cents. I was puzzled, then realized he never gives you the fourth quarter"

by sin on Mar 22, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

pg

scalabrine runs everything. fuck scalabrine!

by marionette on Mar 22, 2011 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

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