My Stepback Assessment
Ok, so this year's team is on pace with the '97 Champion edition. Our only glaring weakness is starting SG, it's not even the depth behind the starter. The top spot in the East is pretty open for us. The Heat is a flawed team, IF you can throw a quality PG and big man at them. The Magic is an offensive team, that acts like it's D'ing up. The Celtics are the Celtics, they will be a tough squad, but aging legs through the 82 make them vulnerable. So why isn't the Org trying to seize the moment and add that guy to push us over the top?
34-16. Leading the Central Division by a crazy 12 games. NO ONE thought we'd be this much out front. Even though I did find this nugget from an AUGUST 15TH fanpost I wrote:
Record wise -- I think we come into the new year 25-6, 1st in the Central by about 3 or 4 games, and only behind Miami in the Conference. But I see a rocky Jan. leaving us 33-13 going into Feb. I think we've jelled pretty well, but that it's noticable that the offense is more efficient when we have more shooters on the floor. Luol is having a better than average season, but he and Brewer on the floor at the same time just doesn't work. They both are best at slashing and mid range game, but don't help spread the floor. But because of no injuries and back to "2007 form" play, he has become a valueable asset entering the trade deadline.
This was before anyone knew the horror of Keith "F*CKING" Bogans starting. Pretty damn close huh?.. I digress
We've done all of this without a truly full squad. This is why the Org is in no hurry to make a move.
It's a science fair project, with DRose and Noah, being the catalysts. This team is being built around them, DRose in particular. They know that SG is a weakness, and it almost seems like they play Bogans there, to make sure Brewer and/or Korver don't start. Like Bogans is really just keeping that spot warm. I really think Joe Johnson would have been a Bull (good or bad) if ATL hadn't thrown the crazy money at him. If they can't get someone for Bogans, JJ and the 1st's then they won't be making a deal. Gar Paxdorf will be quite content to wait, and watch their stars grow.
Noah, by all accounts, will be back 100% right after the break. So even though the schedule will get harder, we have a 12 GAME lead on our division, pretty much guaranteeing us a Top 4 seed. I doubt we implode, and in fact I believe we'll be playing our best ball at the end of the season. Noah will take until about Mid-March to fully back in the swing of things, it will then take another week or so for Booz to get used to him being in there and able to do the things Jo can do.
Let's say they get the #3 seed, holding off Orlando, and face the Knicks in the playoffs. With or without Melo, we get rid of the Knicks in 6. Face the Heat in the semi-finals, and take them to 6 or 7 games before bowing out. All with Bogans as our starting SG.
In my opinion, this CBA Agreement will go much smoother than the NFL's. It will be a hard cap, too many of the owners want it to get around that, but it won't be as low as people think. It definitely won't be below this year's cap, the players won't sign anything long-term with that type of language in it, or at least they shouldn't. They will keep the MLE and install a NFL-like "Franchise" and "Transition" tag, along with Bird Rights. It may not work the same way, but there will be some sort of way to help owners keep their star players. Of course, you will keep the vet minimum signings. Let's say the cap is set at $65 mil, that's $7 mil over this cap. I would say the cap should be closer to the luxary tax, but I'm being conserative here. That would leave us with $11 mil in cap money to go looking for a SG, and back ups at SF, PG, and C.
Here's the beauty of the whole thing, if that cap is set at $65 mil, there will be a large number teams that will be over the cap and forced to cut players. Even if the cap is set at $70 mil, there will still be at least half (did not check those numbers) that would be over. That's a flood of players on the open market, you know what a flood of supply does? It drives down prices. We'll have our pick of a nice selection of quality SG this summer. Be able to fill our other wants, I think backup SF would be next. And after filling out our roster and giving DRose the ammo he needs, you extend him. Simple.
Don't worry we're going to get our SG, you just have to be patient.
If we do make a deal at this point, I would only deal for OJ Mayo or Courtney Lee. They are young, could possibly get better, and seem like the type to fit in well next to DRose. And with the Aaron Brooks trade rumors finally showing up I can see something like this going down for either of the two(couldn't help getting something in).
Courtney Lee trade with HOU/SAC/CHI -- with CHI throwing our 1st to SAC. The Rockets will give you Brooks for a ham sandwich, they would definitely give him up for Landry, who they want back anyway. The Kings need a steady PG next to Evans and Udrih is not it. Move Udrih to the bench and take the 1st round pick with JJ being a throw in
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So many items to address
“but there will be some sort of way to help owners keep their star players.”
The key to the CBA negotiations will be the extent to which richer owners are willing to share revenue with poorer owners. the more they are willing to help the higher the CAP will be.
“We’ll have our pick of a nice selection of quality SG this summer.’
There aren’t a plethora of quality SG’s out there. There are some but they are so good that they will be kept by their teams. After them, there is a big drop in talent, so much so that the SG’s we have now are either on a par with them, OR it’s not worth trading any of our assets for them for the marginal improvement.
“Don’t worry we’re going to get our SG, you just have to be patient.”
This I believe. And I continue to subscribe to the idea that the only way we will get a SG that will help get us to the NBA Finals is through the Draft.
The odds of getting a difference making SG that will help quickly at a low pick are quite small
As you point out, good SGs are actually very hard to find.
Take a really basic measure of scarcity. How many players at each position are there who play >= 30 minutes and have >15 PER (first number) and > 20 PER (second number)
C (7) (2)
PF (23) (12)
SF (12) (3)
SG (15) (5)
PG (22) (6)
There are lots of good PFs and PGs. Notably fewer good SGs and SFs, and almost no good centers.
BullsTwo > Back up and running!
is PER the best stat to use for this?
I don’t know how it works, but I could have sworn I read from someone else on here that it’s skewed towards certain positions because of how it’s calculated.
A couple things...
MLE, Bird rights, vet minimum, etc. are all exceptions that allow a team to go over the salary cap. If there is a hard cap, then all teams will have to stay below the threshold with no exceptions. It’s possible it may end up being a hardened soft cap, but I’m not optimistic. I think it’s either going to be a lockout or the NBAPA getting railroaded
Also, only four teams have salaries totaling over $70 mil next year, and the Bulls have the 8th highest payroll for 2012 at $64.5 mil. Teams range from $28 mil to $93 mil, so if a hard cap is set somewhere in middle, the Bulls may end up being one of the teams that has to make cuts
Rose before hoes
I just can't see it being the end all, be all hard cap
the players aren’t going to go for it, and even some of the owners will balk at it. Especially, if they are trying to set the cap at a lower number. There are going to be loopholes to being over the cap, there may not be as many as there currently are, but there will be some.
not sure about that
The Rockets will give you Brooks for a ham sandwich
"he scores 6pts, automatic win…maybe thibs knew that from the getgo, bogans is like some human cheat code, all he needs is 6pts" - piccolomair
according to the linked article..
Brooks will make $2 million this season and will be a restricted free agent. The Rockets could consider taking injured guard Kelenna Azubuike ’s expiring contract with a $3.3-million salary that is eligible to have 80 percent covered by insurance. The Rockets might not look for a rotation player in return, especially with backcourt minutes to split between Kyle Lowry , Kevin Martin and Courtney Lee . Rookie Ishmael Smith also is in the mix.
The new CBA
An interesting story about the last big negotiations is how Jordan, Ewing, Oakley and others tried to convince the players to save their money prior to the lockout so they could weather the storm. Some insane percentage (like 75% of the league) was broke after a couple of months because they didn’t take Jordan’s advice. Jordan learned a valuable lesson… it is better to be an owner! So he pursued this ownership relentlessly.
The players today may be a little smarter, but my guess is there are still a ton of players out there that will blow through all their cash in a few months and need to start getting paid again. The players will fold and the league will get whatever they want from the union. The only thing to be determined is how much do the rich teams want to help the poor ones.
Your August 15 prediction would be more impressive
if you had known at the time that the Bulls would play no games with both Boozer and Noah healthy, and most games with one or the other out entirely. That’s the real surprise this year; that they have this record despite those injuries.
Haha, You've come a long way Cesaleo
In August you wanted to trade JJ for Mayo, now you are willing to add in Bogans and Scal! Too bad you can’t put a ham sandwich in the ESPN Trade Machine.
jimmy johns?
I remember once former Bull Dave Corzine staring at a stat sheet after a loss when he had one rebound and Michael Jordan offering, "One more rebound than a dead man."

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