Trading season can begin: Carmelo Anthony to the Knicks
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 21, 2011 11:47 PM CST
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PrintStay tuned to the SBNation StoryStream (really, it's neat) for all updates. As of now it looks like this:
Knicks get: Carmelo Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams, Anthony Carter, Renaldo Balkman, Corey Brewer
Nuggets get: Timofey Mozgov, Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, and Raymond Felton
Timberwolves get: Eddy Curry and Anthony Randolph.The Nuggets are reportedly receiving three draft picks, as well, a first-rounder and two second-rounders.
I think that both the Knicks and Nuggets did alright here.
Nuggets managed to go from (way) over the luxury tax to under. While they didn't do much by way of draft picks, they did get some assets to use or possibly flip. Not bad for a team under the gun, and dealing perhaps with only one real suitor.
And I think the Knicks did well too. For one, they're at least taking a shot with an Amare+Melo duo, and I think that while Carmelo has holes in his game that keeps him from the true elite, he'll be rejuvenated a bit with this behind him and now in the place he always wanted to be. Felton-for-Billups is a downgrade but workable, and they were able to get enough warm bodies back to where the depth isn't that awful.
And, most importantly, they really didn't give up that much. Chandler was an RFA after the season so he was likely gone if they were to pursue Melo (and it was far from a sure thing that they'd have enough cap room to get him outright regardless), they already gave up on Randolph, Mozgov isn't much of a prospect, so it's really just Gallinari and the pick that will hurt their future plans. In the meantime they have Carmelo Anthony. Not bad. Though their defense will be pretty awful, no matter how inspired they all feel in the home stretch of this season.
Of course, the true interest is how they could potentially face the Bulls in the playoffs, as they're currently slotted to match up in the first round as the 6vs3 seeds. I think the Bulls still win, but it'll be a lot more interesting. And even though the Knicks had already beaten the Bulls twice with what they had, adding Carmelo makes them a bit scarier.
Best news: Now other deals can commence!
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time to do work.
James Johnson Mancrush.
by DocPepper on Feb 21, 2011 11:50 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
in reaction to this? not really
they should do work because they’re competing with Boston, Miami, and Orlando
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 21, 2011 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
Why can't you scout overseas?
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
not even into the lake?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 21, 2011 11:58 PM CST up reply actions
Wow
perfect response. :)
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Feb 22, 2011 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
I pretty much agree.
I think this is further contributing to the talent influx in the East. With each defection the likeliness of the champions coming out of the east gets stronger (not because NY is a sudden title contender since they are not, but because Denver has gotten weaker.)
Actually, I think the road for L.A. and San Antonio just got a bit easier.
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Feb 21, 2011 11:52 PM CST reply actions
Serioulsy, the West is getting less interesting by the second
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 21, 2011 11:55 PM CST up reply actions
And Elton Brand plays in the East...
They are like the same player…right?
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by Dionysus2.0 on Feb 21, 2011 11:59 PM CST up reply actions
hah!
never thought about it, and they’re not…. but it’s not too far off.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I wouldn't sleep on the Thunder this year
by NerdVernacular on Feb 22, 2011 7:54 AM CST up reply actions
I would.
They can’t defend or rebound. Teams that weak in the interior will not win championships.
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Feb 22, 2011 7:57 AM CST up reply actions
aren't the Thunder in the top 3rd of the NBA in boards?
by You Must Be Joakim on Feb 22, 2011 9:36 AM CST up reply actions
Absolutely not
I don’t know where you heard that, but it is not even remotely true.
Pat Riley is the devil.
Actually it is true
10th in the league in rebound differential
http://www.nba.com/statistics/sortable_team_statistics/sortable2.html?cnf=1&prd=1#top
by You Must Be Joakim on Feb 22, 2011 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
nick collison is awesome!!!
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
My reaction to all of this:
Kevin Love is the greatest forward in the history of the NBA, but according to my eyes he’s only 5 feet tall.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 21, 2011 11:55 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
If you admit that he's short, I'll concede that he's awesome
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 21, 2011 11:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I know I'm late
but Kevin Love is comparable to Dirk Nowitzki now? Yikes.
Anyway, I’m glad this is over. Want to see how we stack up against them, too.
by Stacey_Is_King on Feb 21, 2011 11:55 PM CST reply actions
I know one thing
no Bulls fault
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 21, 2011 11:59 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Shaq?
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by Dionysus2.0 on Feb 22, 2011 12:00 AM CST up reply actions
Bulls still need to grab a 2 guard
Wilson Chandler has played there some this year, but not a ton. Still, when you are thinking of matching up with Boston and Miami it would be nice to make Ray Allen and DWade have to play defense. On occasion.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 21, 2011 11:57 PM CST reply actions
Has he really?
I would claim to “like Wilson Chandler” but that’s just cause I like DePaul. But apparently I know nothing about him.
He’s really played the 2?
James Johnson Mancrush.
a few minutes here and there
he had played 54% of the Knicks minutes at the 3 and only 4% at the 2. But its not like Bogans or Korver handle the ball when they are the SG spot. He could add flexibility to our 2nd unit and than come and provide a defensive, scoring close to end games.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
Plus he be freaking gigantic at the 2
It’s an interesting idea…what’s the scoop on his D?
Other question, is he good at chemistry?
James Johnson Mancrush.
I think of Chandler as really similar to Deng
Probably athletic enough, and a good wing defender. OK shot. Doesn’t have a 2 guard handle.
But that might not matter much if your team is Derrick Rose.
BullsTwo > Back up and running!
exactly and with Noah's ability to pass and handle
and the fact the ball is always in Rose’ hands, the Bulls seemingly could afford to be a little unorthodox.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:08 AM CST up reply actions
oh yay
non-sarcasm
Would the Nuggets be trying to keep Chandler if he’s leaving?
James Johnson + this year’s Bulls pick + Charlotte pick. It’s a lot, but…
Chandler is taking five 3’s per game and making 35% of them.
He’s assisted on virtually all of his 3’s, so he wouldn’t have to adjust coming to Chicago.
He has steadily improved every year.
He’s 23 years old.
Probably an average defender at the 2 in terms of quickness, but his size and length could do wonders.
Probably wouldn’t cost a lot to keep around this summer. Could make room by shedding Brewer as he’s very similar (but younger and bigger, more of a shooter than a slasher).
The Bulls would have their M2GWCD&S.
Defense: Has phenomenal tools on this end of the floor, and is already used in a multitude of ways by Mike D’Antoni for this reason. Shows great potential as a one on one perimeter defender. Guards virtually every position from 1-4, can switch on screens with ease, and is quick enough to stay in front of almost all perimeter players. Terrific combination of wingspan and lateral quickness gives him the ability to sag off his matchup and tempt him to settle for long pull-up jumpers, being just long enough to still close out and get a hand in his face once he does. Seems to lose focus from time to time, getting out of his stance, showing poor awareness off the ball, and not always showing the same intensity. Teams like to post him up inside when presented with the opportunity to do so, and he struggles denying space in the paint and not being backed down. Could still stand to get tougher on this end of the floor, as well as add weight to his very promising frame. A good, but not great rebounder at the forward spot.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I'm all for this
I don’t think it’s really all that much….the time to win is now, not in possibly 2015-2016 (could be then too, but is now). Make this deal. WHo knows what Charlotte will look like in 3-4 yrs, I doubt that pick will be top 5-8. I bet it’ll be at worst (for the ’Cats) 11th, and at best 18th
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
well now that JJ is gone
all it would take is picks. I think he’d fit. I’m all for it.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
I dont think he can play 2.
But he is very good.
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by Dionysus2.0 on Feb 22, 2011 12:05 AM CST up reply actions
in our offense, i think he can
although clearly his ideal position is the 3.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
What would it take to get him?
The Bobcats pick?
can they even be traded?
chandler, galo, etc…?
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
Yes, but not in package deals
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
depends on how much Denver wants to keep him
i can’t believe the bidding will go very high because he is a restricted free agent. But they could use that as cap saving, send him off with someone else or try to resign him. I would think the Charlotte pick would do it.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:06 AM CST up reply actions
I like them taking Johnson and a pick or two.
Definitely Chicago’s next year, and I’d be willing to throw in the Charlotte one if it’s available in 2012 or 2013 (after that, it goes back to Chicago.)
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Too late Johnson is a Raptor for a second round pick.
never forget...
1.7%
anything is possible...
by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 22, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
1st round pick
and that is better for us. They probably didn’t want JJ salary anyway. On the other hand, we can absorb all of Chandler’s salary now.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 6:34 PM CST up reply actions
Fuck the Knicks, Melo, and as always....
Fuck Rondo!
I will now refer to the Miami Heat as "The Corporation"
by ChiCity NW Division on Feb 21, 2011 11:58 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I like your sig
I miss the good ol’ days of wrestling
Most important thing I've learned today is that "Dante's Peak" is one of Kevin Durant's favorite movies
And that’s more than enough to take him out of the MVP discussion imo.
KDthunderup Kevin Durant
Watching Dante’s Peak…one of my favorite movies everrrr
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 21, 2011 11:59 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
I wouldn't judge
I’d bet a lot of Derricks favorite movies are animated
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2011 12:00 AM CST up reply actions
haha, I was actually gonna say that at the end, but I opted not to:
“Although I’d hate to know what Derrick’s favorite movie is”
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
The Gods Must Be Crazy?
Boom! Asik, Asik, Asik the room.
by mrdope on Feb 22, 2011 12:03 AM CST up reply actions 7 recs
Crazy/Beautiful or Willy Wonka? Not sure which Rose meme to go with.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2011 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
"How to Train Your Dragon"
A Life Story of Derrick Rose taming his inner basketball powers.
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
I was actually thinking way worse
like one of those Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen little kid detective movies
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:06 AM CST up reply actions
My money is on 'A Muppet's Christmas Carol'
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Feb 22, 2011 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
Nah...
He watches “Dexter”.
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by Dionysus2.0 on Feb 22, 2011 12:06 AM CST up reply actions
Dexter's Lab?
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Feb 22, 2011 12:06 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I know.
I was joking.
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Feb 22, 2011 12:07 AM CST up reply actions
Before I knew what Dexter was
I half thought he was talking about Dexter’s lab, I still don’t know what Dexter is but I just know its not that cartoon.
by regui8er on Feb 22, 2011 7:26 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
highly recommend
first two seasons are on netflix instant watch for anyone on netflix interested.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
great show
i used to make fun of my parents for watching it, but then i watched one episode and was instantly hooked
yeah i love it.
i might go watch season 1 again. so brilliant.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
yeah i used to deliberately avoid it.
i watched this season and it was just awesome.
by obnoxious american on Feb 22, 2011 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
maybe yu do, but i'd be cautious if I didn't know what age group i was recommending that show to
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
his favortie tv show was 'yes dear'
kinda odd
ou always were second best! And in this business, Bub, second best don't *cut* it!
KD is awesome, MeloDrama all over and KD's watching Dantes Peak, what a pimp.
Boom! Asik, Asik, Asik the room.
Everyone knows Volcano was the better mid-90s eruption movie.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2011 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
Tommy Lee Jones ftw!
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
(wait, he;s in that movie, right? too lazy to google)
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
yes
I remember once former Bull Dave Corzine staring at a stat sheet after a loss when he had one rebound and Michael Jordan offering, "One more rebound than a dead man."
by Rex Grossman on Feb 22, 2011 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
ahh, thought so, thanks
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
The coast is toast
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
JR Smith
JR Smith
JR Smith
He’s a good guy!!!!
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
shout-out to Sports2
didn’t he say the Nuggets would be motivated by getting under the tax?
This also would put the Bulls out of the running even if they wanted to be in it. Couldn’t offer savings, only Noah.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2011 12:01 AM CST reply actions 4 recs
I will rec all shout-outs to Sports2!
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by Sports2 on Feb 22, 2011 12:20 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm scared to ask .....
What are you gonna be doing?
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
Well if you must know I'm going to explore every square inch of the internet for Bulls rumors..
until my eyes bleed and I gain an extreme headache and pass out on my Mac book pro… thats so hot it burns my face. Wake up and peel my eyes open and then goto work looking like Toxic Avenger. But right now I’m going to make a milk shake.
Crap, that is a White Russian
Meant Rum, definitely Rum. Mudslides all around!
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
Oh man, that is so awesome, I am impressed by your work to be a fatass.
I just goto steak n shake for a shake
I just go to Culver's
New sig coming, but it's a process.
Basketball Wives marathon?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:08 AM CST up reply actions
my source is this, i dont actually know.
sbnation front page
Says 13 based on this tweet from Aron Phillips #13
Boom! Asik, Asik, Asik the room.
Melo must be in total bliss
Gets to go to the place he’s always wanted to go. Got his extension. But most of all, gets to go to a team that’s all about chucking and not playing defense.
by Option27 on Feb 22, 2011 12:03 AM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Also his wife can further her career as a 5th tier VH1 reality star.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2011 12:05 AM CST up reply actions
He's living the Life......
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
Per Marc Spears,
the Knicks are keeping Billups next year too, exercising his 14.2 million dollar option……………….in order to get CP3 or DWill. We’re locked into another year of this.
No surprise there...
No way they keep up their pace…
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by Dionysus2.0 on Feb 22, 2011 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
The Knicks pace is 96.2, the Nuggets are at 95.7
Billups apparently doesn’t have a problem playing on a fast paced team
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
uggh, the Bulls could quickly find themselves falling behind. Still let me remind you
No Bulls Fault
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
We need Howard
Then we’d kick all their asses. A Noah/Howard front line is the greatest thing in the history of the universe
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:11 AM CST up reply actions
Speaking of amazing front lines,
David Robinson and Tim Duncan. I was too young back then, but that must have been a helluva 4-5.
If both those guys were in their prime togethr
you’d be talking about 4, 5, 6 rings.
by Stacey_Is_King on Feb 22, 2011 7:47 AM CST up reply actions
Thats what i was thinking when i read that
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
I'm 24, but DRob was on the way out soon after Duncan came into the league,
and I wasn’t that into basketball back then, being just 11. I watched a lot of the Jordan Bulls, but knew very little about the rest of the league. I got into basketball early in the 2000’s, though I’ve played since I was a child.
dwill/cp3/dwight to ny/mia/la
I hope durant all of a sudden wants out
The ultimate fan experience is no longer courtside seats, it's Keith Bogan's job.
How is CP3 getting to Miami?
It’s basically impossible, isn’t it?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:10 AM CST up reply actions
trade Bosh?
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
I would feel bad for CP3.
Lebron doesn’t like playing with competent Point Guards.
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Feb 22, 2011 12:13 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
yea that punkbitch
on a serious note tho, aren’t him and CP3 friends? I know you were referencing him playing with Rose, but if CP3 were to goto Miami I’d be sad
And build the team around 3 wing players?
I don’t see it. Even if the three wing players are Lebron/Wade/CP
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:12 AM CST up reply actions
wings are where its at
but yes very longshot
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
Why wouldn't you just trade Wade? Paul/LeBron/Bosh is far more dangerous.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2011 12:12 AM CST up reply actions
good point
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
Loyalty?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:14 AM CST up reply actions
Trade Wade?
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by Dionysus2.0 on Feb 22, 2011 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't if I were Miami
Wade > Paul, Wade actually less injury prone than Paul.
If I were Miami, I’d trade Bosh, and 5 picks for Howard…..
Lebron-Wade-Howard is already a dynasty.
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
I understand your thinking...
But, Wade is getting older…
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well he could drive, or take a plane, maybe hitchhike...
ba dum cha
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by DocPepper on Feb 22, 2011 12:12 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
(I'll admit, I laughed a little)
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:13 AM CST up reply actions
these rumors make me laugh
because they never include Chicago, the team with the most (of those 3) cap space
James Johnson Mancrush.
I'm sure we'll have some sort of fat expiring by then
Maybe not as fat as Curry but who knows, maybe Boozer really fucks up his body and decides to stay home whilst healing (gaining 110 pounds eating Doritos and Slim Jims)
by Option27 on Feb 22, 2011 12:13 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
the "Eddy Curry Workout Plan"?
1. Lift slim jim
2. Bite slim jim
3. Lower arm
4. Lift remote
5. change channel
6. Drink a Mickey’s and fall asleep.
James Johnson Mancrush.
by DocPepper on Feb 22, 2011 12:16 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
You forgot a step
1. Lift slim jim
2. Dip in chocolate
3. Bite slim jim
4. Lower arm
5. Lift remote
6. change channel
7. Drink a Mickey’s and fall asleep.
-Jeeves The I in Team
This is already annoying me
How the hell are they gonna get one of those two without any picks and no young players?
people aren't surprised by anything after this year
the mood is like, “we’re big market / competitive, we can get whoever we want”. it’s crazy
"Everyone loves it when the guy everyone loves tells how the guy everyone hates is a big pussy." -cayal
by paddyfairview on Feb 22, 2011 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
Now they just need 6-8 more players
Have fun losing 123-112, Knickerbockers
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
quick thought...
could the knicks potentially NOT sign melo to the ext that the nuggets had on the table? just wait it out and see what the new cba brings? might benefit them.
that would be sweet
but no way they do that.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:13 AM CST up reply actions
plus I'm sure its a stipulation of the trade
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
To anybody that's worried about NYK,
Isiah is back in charge! No way a team with that dumbass at the helm gets out of the first round.
One would think he'll find a way to fuck this up
But with Billups/Melo/Amare already in the fold, that might actually be hard to do.
BullsTwo > Back up and running!
I was thinking the same exact thing.
NBATV is also dumb, just replaying some of the ASG stuff.
what's Brett Favre doing?
maybe they’ll cover fishing or the tractor olympics
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by paddyfairview on Feb 22, 2011 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
What's the best historical analog to the Melo/Stoudemire combo?
Two of the best pure scorers in the league, without any other discernible skills (maybe a little harsh) playing in the same front-court.
Melo-Iverson? Idk, there's probably others, but I can't think
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
not a disaster
if Nene hadn’t gone out with cancer, that team would’ve been a tough out.
by JockstrapNoah on Feb 22, 2011 12:22 AM CST up reply actions
not over the hill
posting PERs of 20 and the like. It wasn’t until Detroit that he wasn’t really useful.
by JockstrapNoah on Feb 22, 2011 12:23 AM CST up reply actions
He had one of his best seasons ever in Denver
It was certainly his most efficient season.
Pat Riley is the devil.
It wasn't the same frontcourt,
but AI/Melo comes to mind. How about Duncan/DRobinson.
They both played defense....
Until we get a tagline, yfbb=your friendly Bogans blogger.
by Dionysus2.0 on Feb 22, 2011 12:20 AM CST up reply actions
Ah.....I forgot
about the “no other discernible skills” part,
Iverson and Chris Webber? I have no clue.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2011 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
I know this isn't really front court, but the Warriors right now
Curry, Ellis, Biedrins.
Or perhaps the D’Antoni years with the Suns and Nash-STAT (which could be dangerous).
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
Getting a top 2 seed is more imperative than ever
don’t want to face the Knics in the 1st round.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:18 AM CST reply actions
are you telling me to "harden" up or
we should go get James Harden. One can be done and have no effect, the other will be impossible to obtain.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:21 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
No,Harden up as in.... toughen up, what kind of self respecting Bulls fan fears the Knicks
Boom! Asik, Asik, Asik the room.
OK.....
So I’m a homer because I choose not to fear a Knicks in the playoffs.
Noted.
Boom! Asik, Asik, Asik the room.
it isn't really fear its just recognizing that a team has the potential
to be very good and a tough out. I’m sure you would love for the Bulls to play Orlando, Boston, Miami and than LA.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:28 AM CST up reply actions
They will need to go through Boston, Miami or Orlando and the winner of the west some point anyway, what are you on about.
Im just saying, with our current team, it doesn’t worry me if we get the Knicks in the first round. I think we have them beat in a series, at least this year anyway.
Is that so hard for you to fathom? now run along.
Boom! Asik, Asik, Asik the room.
and i think they give the bulls a tough series
is that hard for you to get?
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
you loved it.
;)
Boom! Asik, Asik, Asik the room.
by mrdope on Feb 22, 2011 12:54 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Deng on Melo
Rose over everyone
Boozer, Noah, Asik, Taj
Yeah, Bulls in 5
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
I don't think a team
that has Billups, Amare, Melo and D’Antoni coaching gets beat so easy. That 3 all stars – you guys aren’t giving the Knicks enough credit.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:22 AM CST up reply actions
No defense , my friend
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
but perhaps the best offense in the league
maybe they can’t do it for four straight series, but I don’t see where a team can’t have a bad offensive game or two against them and they win 4 out of 7
my friend
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
3 all-stars
1 is old and can’t keep up with Rose and the other 2 dont play D
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
landry fields and rony turiaf can provide limited D
I actually think they are the right role players for that lineup.
by JockstrapNoah on Feb 22, 2011 12:25 AM CST up reply actions
they will be scoring 115 pts a night
its more than 1 way to win a game. If the Knicks go small with Melo at the 4, that is a tough lineup for the Bulls to match up with. I’m not saying the Bulls would lose, but it isn’t a slam dunk series like it was before.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:26 AM CST up reply actions
not in the playoffs
I’d like to think our D can hold them down.
Would make for a very fun series
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
Scoring 115 per night
while allowing 114
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
does no one remember a little outfit called the Phx suns
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
With that style of play
D’antoni will never win a title, no defense whatsoever
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
its not about winning a title
its about giving the bulls fits. That style has certainly won playoff series
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:35 AM CST up reply actions
Its about how their team matched up with ours
But back when they beaten us we had problems matching up with them with all the shooters they had and speed. Now the matchups are in our favor now. They had chandler playing the 4 spot it killed us since booz is too slow to keep up. Now their lineup should be more traditional means they should be a bit slower and since Melo and STAT are more ball dominant there will be more 1on1 ball and the Bulls D eats that up for breakfast. Not only can they not play D their team speed imo will be slower than it was since they dont have those guys can run all over like Chandler (at the 4) and a young felton. Idk if Billups can do that every night.
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
Yeah, the thing that killed us
is we never really knew who was going to hurt us. They shared the ball so well, and hit shots. I think that will change with their current set up
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:49 AM CST up reply actions
I'm a little nervous, but the fact that we handled
Denver pretty easily (the one loss was without Rose), is giving me confidence. Plus I never thought Amare and Melo were a good fit. Not only are they fairly one dimensional, they both get their offense from the same spot on the floor. They like to hang out in the high post and shoot jumpers or drive. A defensive coach like Thibs should be able to figure them out easily.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:47 AM CST up reply actions
i agree to an extent
but I think the Bulls will have a really hard time matching up with this Knicks lineup Amare-Melo-Fields-Douglas-Billups. They spread the floor and who does Boozer guard?
And in close games, Melo is a very tough matchup. A clear step up from Amare. Plus I think Billups will be very tough in D’Antoni’s offense.
I don’t think they beat the Bulls in a series. But the preMelo Knicks look like a sweep to me. With Melo, you have a 6 game series.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:52 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I guess you're right
They’ll probably go small like that. The good thing about our bug guys, is that they’re big AND very mobile (minus Boozer to an extent). We won’t be as ill suited for them as a team like the Celtics might be. Actually, if we pass the Celtics, that could be a dangerous matchup for them.
The funnies thing about all this is that the Knicks are doing this to compete with Miami, yet I’d bet Miami would have a cakewalk against them. Don’t think they’ll have a problem with playing a smaller team that likes to run. They’re basically the Knicks on steroids
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:57 AM CST up reply actions
That lineup is a double edged sword imo
Sure that lineup can score and spread the floor and score. But they can’t rebound there or play D in the post we would have the advantage although we could have trouble with that like last time. It would be best to put Taj in when that lineup comes
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
taj on melo?
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Well
Way way way better than Booz on Melo for sure.
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
Deng on Melo
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
That approach has not worked in the past..
So, I have no confidence it would work this season…
Until we get a tagline, yfbb=your friendly Bogans blogger.
the Phx Suns worked
The Showtime Lakers worked.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 2:35 PM CST up reply actions
not saying this Knicks team will be as good as that
but i don’t think they can be dismissed so easily the way some Bulls fans are doing
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah like that guy a little
up the thread said. Bulls would sweep pre-trade Knicks?!?! Um, Knicks are 2-0 vs Bulls this year. Not saying they’d sweep, but the Bulls haven’t even won a game against them.
LeBron James: Which of His Blessings would you deny?
by ProfessorEmmer on Feb 22, 2011 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
I'd love to
Just think of the lineups, in reverse order for more fun:
Noah vs Turiaf… hahaha
Boozer vs STAT (difference of 10-15 points, no defense by either one)
Deng vs Melo Best matchup of the night
Bogans vs Fields I lied, the real best matchup of the night
D Rose vs anyone they put in front of him… doesn’t really need anymore then that.
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
The Knicks will have a half-way decent starting 5
but they have no depth. One of our advantages, other than the ones that you pointed out, is our depth. The Knicks won’t do much in the playoffs this year. They’re gonna have to build. But I’m sure they know that.
If I were them, I'd turn the rest of their expirings into guys with an extra year on their contract
They could still turn Azubuike and Mason into a useful player or two that fits their cap structure (which is that everyone but Melo and Stoudemire needs to be off the books in the summer of 2012.
BullsTwo > Back up and running!
so start over in 2012, again and build to what exactly?
One thing everyone is missing is that the big 3 signed for 16 mill or so…Amare is at 20 mill and Melo at 21.5. Adding a 3rd guy near the max will be near impossible, leaving very little room for role players of any decency, like Miller, Haslem, and Jones, esp if there is a hard cap.
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
No Depth???
They beat us twice with no depth. They beat us playing ONLY 8 players last game. Melo is better than Gallinari. They just picked up Balkman and Brewer. Toss in Azibuke who will be back and there’s your depth. They are going to give whoever they face trouble.
I kind of want the Knicks.
It’d be really fun to keep up the domination over NY.
The Playoff domination.
We haven’t met since then, so I guess yeah. But I, and plenty on here, still hate the Knicks, and would love to be the team to send ’em fishing early in the playoffs.
I would love to beat the Knicks, but a 6-7 game series with NY just means a bloodbath against Miami.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2011 12:22 AM CST up reply actions
that is what I'm saying
I think a Knicks series goes at least 6.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:23 AM CST up reply actions
I think it will take us 5-6 games to beat any team in the first round
I don’t think we’re “sweep” good yet. Maybe with Noah that changes, but this team hasn’t shown me the killer instinct to where I think they’ll totally dominate an opponent
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:51 AM CST up reply actions
According to Broussard (I know, K?)
by Option27 on Feb 22, 2011 12:19 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Playoff push?
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
Don't sleep on Denver now making some noise in the playoffs
This is a great move for them
Felton, Lawson
Affalo/Jr Smith
Nene/Mozgov
Galo/Chandler
Harrington/Kmart/Birdman
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
Everybody in that lineup can be defended one on one
nobody in that lineup knows how to deal with a double team.
by JockstrapNoah on Feb 22, 2011 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
they won't make the playoffs
the chemistry won’t be good enough and they’ll miss Billups and Melo
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
And had an Oompa Loompa give us the update.
Dude was too orange.
I wish Directv would get that damn channel....its 2011 for crisakes
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
not everyone has it
my package doesnt anyway, NFL and MLB, but no NBA
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
And meanwhile, in local news,
the 38-16 Chicago Bulls basically just traded for Joakim Noah. What now?
Bench Bogans
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
by Trey23 on Feb 22, 2011 12:35 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
all i heard was mashgragghhhff. i was like, wtf, then i realized it was chris broussard
"Everyone loves it when the guy everyone loves tells how the guy everyone hates is a big pussy." -cayal
by paddyfairview on Feb 22, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
Turiaf
A poor man’s Kurt Thomas
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
that man envies the homeless
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Feb 22, 2011 2:30 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
They're probably signing Earl Barron
Whom they’ve had lined up for a while.
To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
earl barron?
was the name Duke King too presumptuous?
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Feb 22, 2011 2:31 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Lord Emperor
actually kind a cool, for a stage name,
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
Steven A Smith
writing the Knicks are relevant again!
I know everyone and their grandma hates him, but I enjoy his histrionics in small doses.
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
Quite Frankly was one of my favorite shows
Steven A would get so worked up over anything, it was a joy to watch.
The fact that he has another year at about $14 mil left on his deal makes a buyout VERY unlikely
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 12:59 AM CST up reply actions
landryfields
Looking forward to the second half of the season! Let’s do this NY! 10 minutes ago via web
If we get knocked out by the Knicks in the first round I think I'll move to some sort of mountain community
with no TV or internet.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 1:00 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
When's that from?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 1:01 AM CST up reply actions
I don't get it
Did he change his picture to this after the trade, or was it always like this?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 1:15 AM CST up reply actions
elaborate?
"Ugh I' falling and i cant get up!"
by OdwallaJuicish on Feb 22, 2011 1:22 AM CST up reply actions
Well, this is from KC's latest column:
Management is debating whether to tweak a chemistry-filled locker room by adding a piece such as Anthony Parker or Rasual Butler by Thursday’s trade deadline.
So I probably wouldn’t listen to any other trade stuff coming from the National guys. We’re likely to get one of these two, or nothing at all. Which sucks.
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sigh
well if it means giving up JJ to get one of those guys, I’d rather we don’t make a move
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 1:17 AM CST up reply actions
As if Rasule Butler or Anthony Parker is gonna come in and start distributing cocaine
BullsTwo > Back up and running!
by Sports2 on Feb 22, 2011 6:44 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
lol
it’s not just good chemistry, its ‘chemistry-filled’
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"Don't nag, flag!"
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2011 8:40 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
in that case we should go for Mayo
For the record: John Hollinger and Chris Sheridan picked Milwaukee to win the Central Division: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/preview2010/news/story?page=Predictions1011-Central
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Right...
Isn’t Anthony Parker supposed to be a really good guy, anyways? Plus, he’s from around here, so you figure he’ll be happy just to get a chance to go home (and get out of Cleveland).
Pat Riley is the devil.
maybe it's based of Doug's source that even reducing Bogans minutes
would cause a revolt in the locker room. We’re not there, you guys, it’s chemistry!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Heh... it's just based on the boilerplate BS that teams throw out there
Blah blah blah chemistry. Blah blah blah right fit. Defense? Defense!
BullsTwo > Back up and running!
you forgot
toughness
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Ugh, someone please tell these assholes that most good teams have chemistry
The Cavaliers were basically a musical act at the end of last year, and look where that got them. Disaster shouldn’t have to strike for the team to make a move.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Kinda sucks for them
Moving to Brooklyn. Tons of cash. Owner who will create a Russian harem for his superstars. And they STILL cannot get anyone to even consider the Nets.
The whole thing about how this Russian billionaire was gonna bring them players
was ridiculous to begin with. It’s the NBA, not MLB. The owner can’t change the fact that they play in Newark right now and the roster blows
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 1:45 AM CST up reply actions
i think nba players
are capable of creating their own harems. no billionaire required.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
But what about RUSSIAN harems?
Dunno if that’s a plus or not.
New sig coming, but it's a process.
Hey, they got Avery Johnson!
(I still think this is all karma for him saying the Nets were the best fit for Lebron while he was an analyst at ESPN. While it was painfully obvious why he would spout such nonsense)
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 1:42 AM CST up reply actions
I love the last bullet point, it's awesome
New sig coming, but it's a process.
Wow. Already received an email from NBAStore.com
selling NYK Anthony Jesey… They don’t waste no time.
its 00 when you try to order it
and it says it will ship in 35-36 weeks LOL
The ultimate fan experience is no longer courtside seats, it's Keith Bogan's job.
Pffftft, doesn't matter
With Deng’s improved ball handling ability, the Bulls have their version of Anthony. They’re gonna take that 1st seed. Anyone know the equivalent of lake Michigan in N.Y., just out of curiosity of course?
Why did Yahoo Sports go out and find the most retarded looking Melo image they could locate???
by Bullshitter on Feb 22, 2011 1:24 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
hahah wtf
Screw the haters. It's Cutler time.
by lexmarklover on Feb 22, 2011 1:32 AM CST up reply actions
Woj probably
It frightens me how much I enjoy even the 0.1% chance of an MJ comeback - Bill Simmons
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 6:50 AM CST up reply actions
he looks like his mom should be behind him holding a leash
"Everyone loves it when the guy everyone loves tells how the guy everyone hates is a big pussy." -cayal
by paddyfairview on Feb 22, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
I think Courtney Lee would make the biggest impact. Please God, help a brother out
Screw the haters. It's Cutler time.
Melo to the Knicks.
LOL. That is now the worst defensive team in the league. Stoudemire and Anthony will now be combining to shoot 80 shots per game every night. Don’t expect them to win anytime soon. I am gonna be relishing the fact that Rose will blow by both of them on his way to the hoop. Noah and Boozer will punish them on the glass, Deng and Korver will be hitting open shots (hopefully)!
they won't win it all
but they defeat some teams and we are candidates
It frightens me how much I enjoy even the 0.1% chance of an MJ comeback - Bill Simmons
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 6:49 AM CST up reply actions
They can still score in bunches
They have Amare who’s a 4/5, and Melo who’s a solid 3/4 and the best 3 in the post on O.
They’re athletic enough that they SHOULD be better defenders…..but we know that’s long since past.
Still Ithink they’re tough, adn Billups adds a lot and is oddly not talked about at all (Billups even at his age is still > Felton.
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
haha
come on Billups now is nowhere near Felton,
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
Actually in PER he's considerably still better
And Felton’s numbers will dip back to his 15.0 mark post D’Antoni…..Billups is decent and still underrated.
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
I think not getting Fields was a failure by the Nuggets
It frightens me how much I enjoy even the 0.1% chance of an MJ comeback - Bill Simmons
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 6:47 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
and just one 1st rounder?
So basically the Nuggets are a worse version of NY work
It frightens me how much I enjoy even the 0.1% chance of an MJ comeback - Bill Simmons
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 6:48 AM CST up reply actions
Gallo and Felton may be traded
Denver may also be working on plans for newly acquired players Danilo Gallinari and Raymond Felton.
League sources told ESPN The Magazine’s Ric Bucher that the Nuggets are not expected to keep Gallinari once their three-team trade is completed.
…
There is also talk that the Nuggets are considering dealing Felton
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6146336
It frightens me how much I enjoy even the 0.1% chance of an MJ comeback - Bill Simmons
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 7:23 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
it starts with the coach
is mike d’antoni a championship coach? lucky for him, he was billups
watchin pornos on the ipad...thats really raw
so he's like a vast majority of head coaches
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2011 8:41 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No team can ever win
with just offense only, thats what he’s coaching
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
he coaches D
it’s not conventional but it works. … Worked a lot better when he was in control of the matrix though
New sig coming, but it's a process.
No, he actually does NOT coach D
There were interviews with current and former players about D’Antoni and some of them started laughing when asked how much they practice defense.
Well, his teams average middle-of-the-pack D pace-adjusted somehow
New sig coming, but it's a process.
Idk, maybe I'm nuts, but I've been impressed by their defense when I've watched them this year
Not sure if things will stay the same after the trade, but they were very active, and a lot better than their reputation, or even statistics show
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
Knicks defense are blocked shots
Thats kinda all they can do
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
I've only seen a few games
but they seem to be able to protect the rim okay. In the second game against the Bulls, I remember it was difficult for us to get anything going inside the paint.
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
Mr. Contrarian hard at work. :)
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Raptors:
Heat:
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Feb 22, 2011 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
Who cares what he says
seriously
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
by T.Moore on Feb 22, 2011 9:20 AM CST up reply actions 8 recs
He's not an analyst
He’s a talking head. He gets paid to make ‘news’ rather than to analyze news. This is an ‘edgy’ comment. The knicks will probably get drubbed by the Bulls I would bet.
by journeyintosound on Feb 22, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
he's a rabble rouser.
he’s paid to be contrarian, to rile up dumbasses.
wait. i just described a troll. he’s a frickin troll.
by obnoxious american on Feb 22, 2011 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
Does he still think LeBron James sucks?
He is about the last guy I would go to when I needed an NBA thought.
I hate that one dude from the 2 live stews
the noisy one…you know which one
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
The team "nobody wants to face"
always feels like a flavor of the month.
by JockstrapNoah on Feb 22, 2011 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
I think we should try to trade
Omer Asik – Keith Bogans – either our 2011 #1 pick (likely late 20’s) or the Charlotte Option to the Nuggets for Danilo Gallinari post this trade.
Nuggets get a good, cheap C for the future and Nene backup or at least a spot filler should Nene leave, they get Bogans, who at least doesn’t cause rifts :), and either a chance at a good late first rounder (a Taj or another Ty Lawson type for them) or perhaps if they want to wait a Charlotte Pick that could be much more…..though still unlikely to be a top 7-8 pick.
Bulls get another versatile 2-3-4 who can finally get away from the NY fed stigma of being the next big thing (when he clearly is a decent role player in the making) and have him as another force off our bench.
With Noah back, Omer is less necessary, I’d rather keep Taj too….
Bulls lineup:
Rose-Watson
Brewer-Korver-occasional Gallinari
Deng-Gallinari-Korver
Boozer-Gibson-Deng-occasional Gallinari
Noah-Gibson
I like it.
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
That to me doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Why get Gallo if he’s not gonna start, why trade more big depth for another SF when SG is our biggest need and Brewer imo isnt a starter.
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
What 2's is Gallinari guarding?
I like Gallo too, and think he would be a nice stretch 4 for the Bulls. But given our defensive system I don’t think he is worth trading Asik to acquire.
Gallo's D is a bit better than his rep
He’s not great, but he is improving there.
He’s actually pretty solid, still young and can become a starter.
He’s a 6 ft 10 shooter with actual skills, who’s cheap, available and can give us options if he breaks. We’re not giving up too much to get him, we could use another shooter, worst case he’s an upgrade over Korver—who I do like, best case is he can make it possible to tweak us later on.
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
Eh
I think we would have to give up too much to get him. I agree he is a nice player, but not sure he fits with what this team is trying to do.
Agreed.
If they’d take some sort of first-round pick plus James Johnson, I’d do the deal; but not for Asik.
Gallo much > Asik
I think Asik is our current homerfan super player.
Asik is not necessary and come this week Asik will be les sin the rotation once Noah’s fully back, and his value will dip further.
Asik could be better down the line, but Gallo could be better down the line too and is already much better….
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
Gallo could actually be something
I don’t think a potential #10-15 pick 4 years from now (the Charlotte option) or a #27 pick is too much to get for him.
I know Asik is a decent talent, but I see him as forever a nice role playing C at best….off the bench fo rhis career, and regardless we have Noah, who’s better and will be our C for all of his time here.
Gallo is already decent.
I always think Talent trumps the cookie cutter spots. Gallo is a decent talent. He’s not a guy to build a contender off of (something the NY marketing men were spilling to their fans for 2 years) but he could be a good to great role player and perhaps more down the line….and he’s 22 yrs old.
I don’t see any reason this isn’t a good deal from our end, but I do see it possibly from the Nuggets.
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
The Clippers are talking about giving up a 2012 unprotected pick for him
So I don’t think the Bulls are going to get him cheap. I agree he is a good player and better than Asik. I just don’t think he is worth paying whatever price it will take to acquire him when we don’t really need him.
You've got to be pretty damn sure your not in the lottery
to give up an unprotected pick for Gallo. He’s a mid-first quality player, you don’t give up the super star potential of a lottery pick for Gallo.
by JockstrapNoah on Feb 22, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
Unless it’s next year’s first (2012 pick) I don’t see why they’d do it…..
This year was lost to injury, next year, they could really be good.
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
the unprotected pick
is the wolves’ which means its going to be a potential top 5 pick.
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
How I know is that Lu is going to have his hands full during his hands full during the playoff
Know he have to guard melo, lebron and paul pierce. Its too bad he can’t stop neither of them
1 heat has no PG or center and didnt beat anybody yet.
2. Knicks can’t and play D anytime soon and now they have no bench (and if there is a hard cap that is their squad)
3. Celtics have to me a 1 or 2 year window for a title aging and not getting healthier
Stop panicking bro
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
Bulls play better defense than any one of those teams
And thats without noah
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
In the sense that he can hurl a contested long 2-point jumper with the shot clock at 1, yes.
But so can everyone. Don’t get me wrong, Lu has been very good this year, but he isn’t exactly the type of guy you run iso plays off of, a la Rose.
No one can stop lebron but lebron
Not wanting to that the BIG shot even in a damn all star game. He stopped himself plenty of times in crunch time quite a bit. And no the Knicks are not that much better. They are closer to the hawks than than to any of the top 3 teams in the east
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
Team Defense?
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
something's stopped him
zero rings.
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
Well his point is nullifying yours....See above
You said since no one can stop Melo,Lebron, Pierce, the Bulls are not winning championships anytime soon.
His point is no one can stop Rose, does that mean that all those other teams are not gonna be winning championships, since they can’t stop that 1 player in a 5 v 5 game?
Maybe not melo or LBJ
but Deng usualy does a good job on pierce.
For the record: John Hollinger and Chris Sheridan picked Milwaukee to win the Central Division: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/preview2010/news/story?page=Predictions1011-Central
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
He does about as well as anybody on Lebron too
by tuluse on Feb 22, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
and he also does the
For the record: John Hollinger and Chris Sheridan picked Milwaukee to win the Central Division: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/preview2010/news/story?page=Predictions1011-Central
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
so i did the trade in the espn trade machine
and all three teams had their estimated wins go down. LOL
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4cwbsa3
by Uncle Stanley McGoober on Feb 22, 2011 9:38 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Doesn't it seem like ESPN and its analysts (save Stein and few others) hate the Bulls
While TNT and its commentators love the Bulls?
TNT guys are smarter than the ESPN guys
they have JVG and Mark “mama there goes that man” jackson
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
Mark Jackson is a huge idiot
but honestly I think he hates on the Bulls because he just hates the Bulls from back when Jordan made him his bitch repeatedly in the 90’s. JVG? He’s probably got a little of the same, but I think he’s just a contrarian most of the time and likes the Bulls better than he lets on, especially since his homeboy Thibs is the coach.
Chris_Broussard
Sources say Clippers dangling 1st round pick from Minny to Denver for Gallinari. Pick is Top 10 protected in 2011, unprotected in 2012. less than a minute ago via Echofon
by Supasam on Feb 22, 2011 9:58 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
not bad for them if they pull it off
honestly, before long it’s going to be OKC and the Clippers as the cream of the West. and i suppose the Lakers if Dwight ends up there. but the Spurs will fade, the Mavs will have to reboot, and the current Lakers appear to be winding down.
I have a hard time saying the Clippers are going to be the "cream" of anything.
And yes, I know what their roster looks like. Still, they’re the Clippers.
believe me, i have a hard time saying it too
and given their owner/management, they probably will fail. if they were run by competent people though, looking around the West, they should be one of the better teams in a few years.
Well...
They did fire Elgin Baylor…so, perhaps their future is a little less dim.
Until we get a tagline, yfbb=your friendly Bogans blogger.
Heeeeey
Asked who his starting point guard would be, Karl said, “Probably Ty,” then got into his maroon SUV and drove away.
In ESPN’s article on the trade. Interesting, I wanna see this. :)
New sig coming, but it's a process.
by Prevenge on Feb 22, 2011 10:07 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
See what?
I don’t get it. You wanna see him answer a question and drive away?
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
I want to see Ty Lawson as a starting PG, duh
Although Karl dismissing media people would probably be entertaining too …
New sig coming, but it's a process.
I'm not so sure the Knicks got better.
Melo is better than Chandler. – Check.
Melo is better than Gallinari. – Check
Is Melo better than Chandler/Gallinari? I don’t think I can answer that with a definitive yes.
I’m not even sure Billups is a better fit than Felton.
Opinions?
Billups is better than Felton, although not by much
he is worse defensively.
Melo may not be bettre than Chandler/Gallinari but Melo/Williams or Melo/Azubuike is better than Chandler/Gallinari.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
I don't know how much better Billups is than Felton
Especially because he is a shoot-first PG on a team with two guys that need a ton of shots.
so is Felton
I don’t have time to look it up (or the willingness) but Billups is one of the most efficient scorers in the pick and roll notably for his ability to draw fouls and get in the lane. You add in the fact that he is a better 3pt shooter than Felton and you have every reason to believe he will be better offensively than Felton. Remember, it wasn’t like Felton was putting up big numbers until he got in Mike D’s offense.
Billups has a higher PER, 3pt%, TS% and has more experience. I think he is better than Felton this year, maybe not next year, but this year, he is.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
I think Felton's a better distributor than Billups and harder to keep out of the lane
Clearly Billups is the better shooter. I don’t think the Knicks are much better for this season. A little better, not a lot.
what are you basing these claims on?
assist-to-turnover ratio? points in the paint?
I’m just curious.
Guilty Simpson should be our starting SG
by Rose Colored Goggles on Feb 22, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
"I think"
It’s hard to compare them statistically because up until this season I would have said Billups was clearly the better player. Felton has improve a lot and Billups is declining. Add in that Felton’s numbers this year have the D’Antoni inflation, and it boils down to me just basing it on what I’ve seen.
I could be wrong. Billups might end up being a better fit for the D’Antoni offense than Felton.
Chauncey hasn't declined that much. He's still a big guard who can get to the line and drain 3s.
The passing is average but on a team with Melo and Amare who the hell needs passing? They’re just going to iso everytime.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2011 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
Against the Bulls I think Felton is a tougher matchup
He can defend Rose pretty well, and is quick enough to cause Rose problems on defense. Seems like Billups is the type of PG that Rose can defend pretty well.
by JSB on Feb 22, 2011 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
hopefully
Billups is a good pick and roll player and its always tough to defend a guy who can hit the 3, especially when he’s playing with guys who draw double teams
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
Billups might be a nice veteran presence (with a title)...
On a team with two “superstars” who haven’t won anything.
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 22, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
Anyone that doesn't think this was good for the Knicks is folling themselves
It just depends on how much better you think they’ll be, and how quickly they’ll get there. This is a big time case of “wait and see”, because I have no clue how these guys will play with one another. It’s nowhere near the slam dunk that Miami was
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
They are better for sure
I think there is a lot of middle ground between the Knicks improved, and oh, shit they are going to be awesome. Don’t forget they weren’t all that before the trade.
I think people are being critical of the Knicks because they gave up so much when it appeared they had all the leverage.
Knicks got better
but not much better, just a bit better right now
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
by T.Moore on Feb 22, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I like to think of it as; they got marginally better right now (if at all)
With the likelihood that they’ll be much better in the future. How scared we need to be depends on just how good they can get.
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
I guess I just don't think Amar'e or Melo are that good
I don’t see them as being championship-players.
by JSB on Feb 22, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah same here
I think they are both great #2 pieces on a championship team. They need lots of talent around them. Amar’e moreso than Melo tho
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
I tend to agree with skip bayless, he said that the only thing he doesnt like about the bulls
is that the bulls rely rose too much and point guards who is 6’3 dont supposed scoring 42 points a game. Rose is not going to do that in playoff and that could be bad for the bulls.
yeah, cuz Rose always scores 42 points a game
it was his first time ever doing that. obviously the offense is centered around Rose, and we all know they need another creator/shooter at the two.
did Skip say whether or not holding your opponent to 92 points a game is good? or owning the glass?
by M 80 on Feb 22, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
A poor one at that...
But don’t you see that’s what that guy does? He’s the king of finding an insignificant detail and turning it into a “polarizing” talking point. Don’t fall for it Supasam.
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 22, 2011 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Ya cuz it's not like rose went off for multiple 30+ games in his rookie playoff series
The guy is averaging 24 and 8. So if he wasn’t putting up those ridiculous numbers, Skip Bayless would say well he’s not that good of a player and therefore, Bulls will lose.
With him putting up those numbers on a consistent basis, going 30+ in many games, as well as the Bulls beating some good teams when he scores in the low 20’s, I don’t see any evidence for his point
Well, tell me the next time any NBA player averages 42 ppg
then I’ll care about your random examples
New sig coming, but it's a process.
Yeah 6 ft 4 Wade
Never did anything in the playoffs before….
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
Yeah that ticked me off too
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
Rose has only scored over 40 once...
I don’t see how anyone is counting on it happening again to win.
Skip Bayless is a blowhard idiot too full of hyperbole.
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 22, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
again, 42 was an example from me, i do agree that we rely on rose too much and that’s not good in play off
While it is true that we probably need more scoring...
M 80’s point below about having kick ass defense and rebounding is exactly the kind of thing that goes unnoticed by talking head pundits.
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 22, 2011 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
Rose only scores 25 a game
All the contenders have a guy that scores at least that much. Does Bayless know that Boozer averages almost 20 a game and Deng 18 a game? And that Noah has been out for a while and he will average at least 13 a game.
Of course he knows...
His job is to say stupid things that cause people to lash out on him. This is the guy who is probably the biggest detractor of LeBron James the player.
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 22, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I hate lebron
But melo is not as good as lbj like skip believes
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
We all hate LeBron...
But Skip takes his criticism to absurd levels just so people will watch. In all fairness though I haven’t watched him once this year, can’t stand it.
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 22, 2011 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
The Lakers rely on Kobe too much
That’s not good in the playoffs, they’ll never win a championship. Same for the Bulls in the 90’s and Jordan.
Seriously, since when is having a scorer that you can rely on a bad thing in the playoffs? If it’s the 3 inches that make a difference, explain why.
If you’ve represented Skip’s argument correctly, it’s a stupid argument.
He is not a mini Jordan bro
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
its more like sis
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
If it’s the 3 or 4 inches that make a difference, explain why.
by runningman on Feb 22, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
What does this even mean?
Rose is 6’3" and a mini Lebron
"I tend to agree with Skip Bayless"
Yep, there’s yer problem…
by pooriejay on Feb 22, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 8 recs
Maybe someone mentioned it
but how are the Knicks going to afford Paul or Williams in 2012? I would think the new CBA will be a bit more restricted and the Knicks, even if they are able to dump everyone but Amare and Carmelo, will be paying those two about 40m. Whereas the Heat are paying their big 3 less than 15m each. Maybe it will be possible, but I would think every other roster spot will have to be filled for the league minimum.
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
If there's no hard cap, they can do it.
The Knicks earn enough money to pay whatever it takes, luxury cap or no.
Of course, this may mean the Knicks will not favor the hard line in negotiations, since a cap hurts them.
but there are restrictions currently in place
that don’t allow a team to spend whatever they want. you can’t just add free agent after free agent if doing so would put you over the cap. i guess this is all speculation since we dont’ know what the new cba will look like. i guess they could pursue a sign and trade like the heat did with bosh/lebron, but will that be possible with a new cba? it seemed to me that the heat pulled this off with the thinnest of margins, and are paying their big 3 less than what the NY big 3 will make. even if the current cap of 58m is around for 2012, the knicks are already at ~40m, not including current players under contract and cap holds.
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
current players
other than amare and melo
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
a real gm post covers this, not sure if the math is correct
under the current rules, the post says if they renounce fields, and the cap goes up to 61m, they can offer 6/122m.
http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1093662&start=75
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
Right, but why would the cap go up to $61M from the $57M it's at now?
Most are predicting it will fall to about $52M, making it impossible unless the inbound FA takes a a big paycut.
yeah i agree
i think everyone’s expecting it to fall, it seems very unlikely that they can swing a deal for paul or williams
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
It's $58M right now
And viewership is the highest it’s been in years, which will lead to higher add revenues. I’m not sure what attendence is at, but I could see it climbing….not sure if it’lll get quite to $61M, but it could climb. I think it’s set at 51% of bball related income (or something along that line), if viewership is way up (I know the all star weekend was the highest ever, and all star game itself was highest since 2003, and I heard in Dec that viewership was up 28% in non Heat games and 35% with the Heatles, that leads you to think the cap will increase pending CBA rules.
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
if there's a hard cap
implemented, i could see it going up, but the owners want concessions from players in the form of lower salaries, which i would imagine would probably lower the cap? i guess it depends on if they keep the current formula in place?
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
We'll just have to see
I think we’re more likely to see a contraction of a few teams than a concession from players in terms of material monies to give up. The owners know that they can’t deal with another 99 lockout, since we’re still not fully back over that, and are just starting to climb with the new superstars and the Heatles replacing the mess of the Latrell Spreewell, A.I., Brawl, lockout etc bad PR that hurt the league the last few years.
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
i know there are some owners in favor of contraction
would be interesting to see which teams and how those players are disbursed.
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
The Heat have shown that if you can sign two and a half superstars,
other players will join for under market price just to be part of a winning team. And couldn’t Melo and Amar’e agree to restructure their contracts if necessary?
Cuz Melo has demonstrated through this whole process he is willing to give up money to help his team?
The whole reason this deal got done at such great cost to NY is because Melo wanted his max money.
He'd have to give up a quite a bit of money
Taking less money and restructuring a contract are pretty different things. Add in that the cap is likely going down….It’s unlikely. Not impossible, but unlikely.
Chad Ford detailed this pretty well this morning.
Ya, but he knows the whole reason the knicks are trying to bring him in
is because they want to lure another superstar to add later. This is not going to be some new revelation to him that the knicks want to add a superstar
Problem for them is
Melo and Amare are not Wade and James. They are more like Bosh. So they are closer to two half superstars. Are players really gonna take below market to play with them when they could take below market to go to Miami, LA, Orlando, Boston, OKC or Chicago?
by JeffD on Feb 22, 2011 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
You do realize that's a completely different scenario, right?
James/Wade/Bosh all signed as free agents in one season, meaning they could take pay cuts to play together. Melo will sign an extension before the new CBA is in place, Amare already has a $100 million contract. Unless the cap expands by a good amount there’s not a high probability the Knicks can land Paul/Williams without a significant pay cut.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, but there is a hard cap when it comes to signing players from other teams
You can’t just go sign anyone you want and go over.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
Do we know that Paul will need max money to make it happen?
by Khalid El-Amin on Feb 22, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
Paul's ailing knee
troubles will ensure that he won’t be a “max-pay” guy.
"The advanced metrics guys do not like Derrick Rose very much." - Bills Simmons podcast 2/4
by RogersPark Kris on Feb 22, 2011 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
Chad Ford wrote an article today
Basically said that there is almost no way that they are going to be able to get Paul or DWill
I haven't read the article, but my assumption is that we won't really know until the new CBA is agreed upon, right?
Guilty Simpson should be our starting SG
by Rose Colored Goggles on Feb 22, 2011 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
Yes
But there is almost no scenario where the new CBA will make it easier. And it would be nearly impossible to pull off under the current CBA.
by JSB on Feb 22, 2011 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Word, I was just wondering if the new CBA was a major factor in his reasoning
since I hadn’t read it.
Guilty Simpson should be our starting SG
by Rose Colored Goggles on Feb 22, 2011 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
Not really
He based it more on the salaries of Melo/Amar’e and the lack of assets for the Knicks to trade. Under the current CBA they will probably have about $12 million in cap-room in 2012.
Yeah, I don't get why people are even talking about it
It seems so far fetched. I guess if Williams and/or Paul demanded to be traded there, and the Hornets/Jazz gave in for a package built around Billups’ expiring, Landry Fields, Shawne Williams, Bill Walker, and guys like that. But does that sound logical?
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
That's my take as well
I have to think the other owners are going to make it so the stars can’t just team up on a couple teams.
well it's possible a lowered cap would coincide with rolling back some salary, too
though I highly doubt that.
Don’t worry guys, the Bulls are being cautious so they don’t lose Derrick Rose due to these mystical CBA forces
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
thank god. i would hate to see them acquire talent
and have a .000001% chance of losing Rose.
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A CHANCE
We must keep our chemistry to complete fillage, and keep Rose a Bull 4 lyfe!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If he had the personality of lebron i would call bs
But i believe him
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
nobody knows his personality
LeBron seemed like a nice fellow once too
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
Lebron seemed like a nice dude
But he just seemed too arrogant and entitled for someone who didnt win anything
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
That's one point of view.
To me Lebron just seemed like the guy who always knew the right thing to say.
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Feb 22, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
oh there were plenty of signs
(custom HumV, annoying ‘the LeBrons’ commercials, hiring all his friends for marketing)
by JockstrapNoah on Feb 22, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
Dude wears Dodgers hats and talks about his love for LA in every interview.
Rose/Kobe/Howard in 2013.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
Can you imagine if he actually did that?
Him of all people?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
especially after his second championship
it would be unprecedented.
by JockstrapNoah on Feb 22, 2011 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Your move, Pax
For the record: John Hollinger and Chris Sheridan picked Milwaukee to win the Central Division: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/preview2010/news/story?page=Predictions1011-Central
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 12:01 PM CST reply actions
chadfordinsider
Note to Knicks fans: It’s not “hating” on the Knicks to point out they don’t have cap space in 2012 to sign CP3 or DWill
by Supasam on Feb 22, 2011 12:04 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
meh
they can always do trades
For the record: John Hollinger and Chris Sheridan picked Milwaukee to win the Central Division: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/preview2010/news/story?page=Predictions1011-Central
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
You people always understimate the power of
emperor palpatine David stern
For the record: John Hollinger and Chris Sheridan picked Milwaukee to win the Central Division: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/preview2010/news/story?page=Predictions1011-Central
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Why would the Nugs wanna trade Galo?
Are they gonna resign Chandler?
Maybe to get a team to take Al Harrington?
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
I want TNT to have their own show like sportscenter or NBA on NBC back
Cause ESPN just biased as hell and piss me off…
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
The worst national guy is Jon Barry
Hate his voice, hate his ugly face….argh!!!!!!!!!
And He’s a Bulls hater…argh!!!!!!!!
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
I think
they just hate Chicago in general
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
Barry hates chicago
Perhaps because his bro blew ass here.
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
What are you talking about?
Jon Barry was one of the guys over the summer that said, over and over again, that the Bulls were by far the best destination for Lebron. I haven’t paid much attention to him since, but he’s always seemed to be in the Bulls’ corner.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Feb 22, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
Says who?
In this podcast released yesterday he says Rose is his MVP pick.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Feb 22, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Still doesn't change his Face and Voice
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
Jon Barry is ok
i remembering him praising the bulls. A lot
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
it's called NBATV
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
are you just trying to get recs?....hehe
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
by Trey23 on Feb 22, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
RealSkipBayless
Will take a while to click, but I give Melo-Amare-Chauncey good chance of knocking off, say, Chi in playoffs. Big firepower. 1 minute ago via Facebook
hahaha, Skip, SKip, SKip
This will be fun, can’t wait for Wednesday and then Heat on TNT and then the playoffs.
I now want the Knicks. No shotblocking, occasianlly Amare, when he feels like it, Rose will score 30 every game.
"I love you, mommy!" - Joakim Noah
He's still pissed at the Chicago Tribune for firing his ass?
I will say his brother does make awesome mexican food.
One guy makes it his passion to bring authentic Mexican cuisine/culture back to Chicago
The other got famous by calling Troy Aikman gay.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Well, that is a kind of "how"
Not really the causation factor(s) for which I was looking, but … close enough.
ok, no more Skip
thanks.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I wish you never revealed that you're a woman.
I find it easier to make snarky, smartass remarks to guys…
JoNo Comeback Week Assassination Missions:
Raptors:
Heat:
Bucks:
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Feb 22, 2011 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
it's easier if you don't think of anyone as a human
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2011 4:29 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
So basically I 'Rondo-ize' everyone.
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Feb 22, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Final thoughts on this trade
As Bulls fans, we should rejoice and celebrate the stupidity of the New York Knicks (Isiah Thomas)
Why?
1) New York pretty much just traded away every or any asset they had for a scoring machine who doesn’t play defense. As we’ve seen before in this league, defense gets you championships. A team built around Melo and Amare isn’t gonna be in the top 10 in league defense anytime soon.
2) Think about the Heat for a second. They have Wade, LeBron and Bosh, right? 2 of those guys have a pretty solid defensive game that anchors the rest of the team. New York really has no one at all besides Billups who prides themselves on playing D and that guy doesn’t even wanna be in NY. He’s also aging. Rapidly.
3) Also thinking about Miami. What has happened this year when any of those 3 guys have been injured? They lose. So obviously having 2 superstars and no depth kills you in this league. You can also make the argument that any 2 of the 3 they have in Miami is better than the 2 they have in NY.
4) With the looming uncertainty of the next CBA, New York is in horrible position to land any of the prized 2012 free agents. As Chad Ford writes . .
But there’s one problem: Under every scenario I could come up with, the Knicks are unlikely to have the money to make a competitive offer to a major free agent next summer or possess the assets to trade for him beforehand.
They’re likely stuck with a core of Melo & Amare. Let’s say Utah, New Orleans or Orlando feel as if they’re gonna lose guy like Denver felt about Melo. Denver just did what Cleveland and Toronto wish they had done in the first place. You think any future teams are gonna stand pat and let their guys walk away for nothing like Toronto and Cleveland did? Denver just set and example that the rest of the league is likely to follow, depending on the new CBA. Also worth noting on that new CBA, if the franchise tag is going to be the league next year, even more reason the Knicks won’t be able to land another major free agent.
5) Donnie Walsh is totally against this trade and Isiah Thomas is all for it. Given the history of both, who would you agree with?
6) Lastly, most people are forgetting that D’Antoni had a team featuring Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, Joe Johnson, Shawn Marion and Leandro Barbosa. ALL IN THEIR PRIME. The result? Losing to the San Antonio Spurs in the Western Conference Finals 4 games to 1. What makes anyone believe this team might be scarier down the road is beyond me.
by Option27 on Feb 22, 2011 1:29 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Idk, I'm way too lazy to write a sound response to all of those points
but I’d say you’re reaching a bit. It was a good move for the Knicks. Could they have waited it out til the summer and maybe made a better deal? Sure, but I don’t see much wrong with doing it this way. It’s a star based league, and when you have the opportunity to grab one of the biggest stars, you do it. They weren’t gonna be a great defensive team without him either.
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
That being said, I still don't see them as title contenders anytime soon
so I do agree with you on that
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
I think the final point I made was the greatest one
Think about that Suns team and now think about this Knicks team? Nash was more valuable to the Suns than Melo will ever be to the Knicks. I get what you’re saying. The Knicks got better. I’m not saying they didn’t. But they’re nowhere near a top 3 team in the East. All I’m saying is that they very well could be stuck now that they’ve thrown it all in for Melo. Such an Isiah move.
If you wanna make the grade on the move based on them gettin better now and more exciting to watch now, then heck . . . they easily won but I’m looking down the road. I’m looking at the rest of the talent in this league. If they had this same team before training camp, I’d still consider them a 5 seed. With their hands tied now, the future just looks bleaker.
by Option27 on Feb 22, 2011 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
maybe this isn't all about being better
maybe it’s more about selling more tickets/jerseys
Yeah, but it gets dicey when you start saying
“Amare and Nash played together and couldn’t get a title, so this new team…”. Things change, players change. Melo and Stoudemire could turn out to be a perfect pairing, and Billups could be reinvigorated in D’antoni’s system, you just don’t know how it’s gonna work when there’s so many moving parts. I still say they did the right thing, but I also think it doesn’t help them a great deal in the standings (if that makes sense)
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
while we don't know what the cba is going to look like in the future
hollinger, ford and others said its going to be nearly impossible to land any one of those 3
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
Someone just tried to tell him (her?) this above when he/she made the same comment
So you’re just wasting your energy
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't you say you were a girl, supasm?
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
She did say she is.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
didn't catch that
sorry
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
All good. Just trying to help you avoid a lengthy conversationthat will lead nowhere :)
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
That suns team > this knicks team right now imo
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
While I largely agree with you, I'd like to play devil's advocate for just a moment
A team built around Melo and Amare isn’t gonna be in the top 10 in league defense anytime soon.
but a team built around Derrick Rose and Carlos Boozer is? Not saying New York won’t be a putrid defensive team, but that I think successful defense in this era o fhte NBA is more predicated on coaching/system than purely on the roster. Most NBA athletes are capable of playing good defense, if it’s demanded of them.
Guilty Simpson should be our starting SG
by Rose Colored Goggles on Feb 22, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
I think this team is built more around Rose and Noah
More than Booz there.
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
The Bulls' defense is built around Joakim Noah and Luol Deng and one of the best coaches for this specific part of the game.
Rose is a 3rd year player who needed a bit of tutoring on how to adequately defend. Boozer, well Boozer still sucks on D but you can always mask one bad apple. Not to mention we have Taj, Asik, Brewer, Watson, all competent defenders for their position.
The Knicks? They have two of the laziest defenders out there. Amare doesn’t even rebound to mask his deficiency. They don’t have anyone close to Noah to pair him with. When your best defensive players are Ronny Turiaf and Landry Fields and the coach is Mike D’Antoni, the D is not getting any better.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Again, I refer to "Most NBA athletes are capable of playing good defense, if it’s demanded of them."
my point was that the Knicks will be bad on D not because Melo and Amare can’t play it, but because they won’t be asked to.
Guilty Simpson should be our starting SG
by Rose Colored Goggles on Feb 22, 2011 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
this is funny
Amare doesn’t even rebound to mask his deficiency.
funny because amare’s career avg reb is 8.9 and boozer’s is 10.1.
that’s 1.2 per game, 80 per season. now, i want you to actually watch amare for a whole game and see how many easy rebounds he will let go to a knicks teammate. you might notice it’s as frequent an occurrence as when boozer takes an easy rebound away from his bulls teammate.
comparing their career offensive rebs, it’s 2.9 to 2.8 per 36min.
i’m not saying amare is as good a rebounder as booz. i’m not even saying the statistical difference is insignificant, although it should be open to debate. i’m saying this is why it strikes me as comical that anyone would make such a ridiculous statement as “amare doesn’t even rebound”.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
yeah
it’s not like he’s 2010 brook lopez
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
Amare's per-game rebouding numbers are inflated because he spent so many years in Phoenix
As everybody knows, the Suns played at a blazingly fast pace which resulted in more shots per game, and thus, more available rebounds per game. If you look at pace-adjusted stats like Total Rebounding %, Boozer’s numbers dwarf Amare’s by a wide margin.
Pat Riley is the devil.
jazz run too
show it or shut it
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
i already linked to their career stats on bb-ref
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Amare's TRB% - 14.6
Boozer’s TRB% – 18.6
Amare is a bad rebounder.
by Stacey_Is_King on Feb 22, 2011 9:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was going to post this, but you did it for me
The difference in DRB% is just insane, 29% to 18%. In game with 50 missed shots that’s a difference of over 4 rebounds.
when you're comparing him to an elite rebounder
it makes him look worse. here’s a list of active players and where they fall on the reb% list. funny no one mentions pau as an awful rebounder, you only hear about amare.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/trb_pct_active.html
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
Pau plays defense
Amare does neither.
Also, Pau wasn’t available this off season, so he’s not really in the discussion.
um i think you totally missed my point
if you look scroll up, i was addressing the comment that amare is a terrible rebounder, which i think is overstated, especially in relation to others with a similar trb% number. i didn’t make any claim about anything but rebounding. if you check the career trb% numbers, there are a ton of players barely ahead of and behind amare. pau gasol and horace grant both behind. i’ve never heard anyone describe horace grant as a terrible rebounder ever.
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
and i'm not sure
where pau being available/unavailable has to do with anything
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
Well for one, Derrick came into this league with the willingness to learn and the body to allow him to excel
Derrick wants to learn how to play defense and is starting to figure it out a bit and will likely get better. Boozer was a risk the Bulls were willing to take cause the rest of the team can mask his defensive liabilities.
They aren’t building this team around Boozer and Rose BTW
by Option27 on Feb 22, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
There's some truth to that.
I personally think D’Antoni’s system will never win a title in the NBA. You have to play defense if you want to win a title in this league. Have to.
That said, Amare is terrible on defense and Melo ain’t much better out there so even if they had a more defensive orientated coach defense would still be an issue going forward.
I think a lot of it also falls in D'Antoni
As long as he’s their coach, they’ll never be willing to play D. He’s got an ego on that like Thibs has on Bogans. I think he just wants to prove to people that his system can work and win him a title.
Even rejected Thibs before . .
There’s better gossip in there, though: Sarver said D’Antoni agreed before the 2007-08 season that he’d consider adding a defensive coordinator to the bench once Marc Iavaroni left for Memphis. Kerr brought then-free agent Tom Thibodeau to town. (Thibodeau was a long-time Jeff Van Gundy assistant and had been interviewed for a few head coach jobs that summer.) Sarver said D’Antoni rejected Thibodeau and instead promoted his brother Dan D’Antoni to lead assistant. Thibodeau, of course, eventually landed in Boston, where he implemented what became the league’s highest-rated defense.
by Option27 on Feb 22, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
that's a shame
i’ve just started SSOL, and D’Antoni’s brother comes off as kind of an ‘aw schucks’ guy with little value as a coach. I think it mentioned he was a high school coach previously.
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
This was the entire point of my post...
that coaching is far more important to defensive success than your players.
Whether we’re built around Rose/Noah or Rose/Boozer is just semantics; the fact is most people aroundhere lambasted Deng and Taj’s defense before the season and now they’re great. No one thought of Paul Pierce or Ray Allen as great defenders early in their careers either.
Seems like you guys stopped reading after my second sentence…
Guilty Simpson should be our starting SG
by Rose Colored Goggles on Feb 22, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
"the fact is most people around here lambasted Deng and Taj’s defense before the season"
I do not think that is true.
I meant "before this season" as in during last season
there was a lot of anti-Taj posting going on here at the BaB…
Guilty Simpson should be our starting SG
by Rose Colored Goggles on Feb 22, 2011 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
wow, so the Heat really shouldn't be worried
what about the Bulls?
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
There's no way this trade could go through
Eddy Curry will never pass his physical
The NBA: Where Donaghy Happens.
This is all fucking giggles
Struggling Cleveland Cavaliers shopping whole team for draft picks, sources say.
by Option27 on Feb 22, 2011 2:08 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
i'd take JJ Hickson and ...
the cavs suck
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
redeyesportsguy
Jeff Van Gundy just said on ESPN that the Knicks have a better “team” than the Bulls and would give them the playoff edge.
by Supasam on Feb 22, 2011 2:11 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
jeff van gundy
also said the heat will break 72 wins.
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
why is 'team' in quotes?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
because having 2 players that will shoot the ball every time they touch it
cannot technically be called one.
by obnoxious american on Feb 22, 2011 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe he forgot that Noah was on the team?
by diedaily23 on Feb 22, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess I'd have to see Amare and Melo play together first.
But the difference I think isn’t too large.
Didn't he say the Bulls would max out at around 46-48 wins?
He’s bias towards the Knicks, so I’m not surprised.
by chicity773 on Feb 22, 2011 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
How come you are quoting the worst possible sources for knowledge?
It’s like me quoting an uncle on the status of the Warriors.
UncleBob@That Monta Ellis is the bee’s knees. And the favorite for the MVP.
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Heat:
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Feb 22, 2011 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Still bitter
about the 90s
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
More Spears
Blazers expected to move guard Andre Miller and center Marcus Camby before trade deadline, source said.
by Option27 on Feb 22, 2011 2:15 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I heard the Nuggets really wanted Justin Bieber.
But he was shot to death on CSI so that sucks for them.
by BullsFan22 on Feb 22, 2011 2:17 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
As I said before Bieber should go to the Heat
get people in that Arena
For the record: John Hollinger and Chris Sheridan picked Milwaukee to win the Central Division: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/preview2010/news/story?page=Predictions1011-Central
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
Chris Tomasson christomasson
Details of Melo’s extension. After earning $18.52 mil next season, he’ll get $19.45 mil (12-13), $21.49 million (13-14), $23.53 mil (14-15) 1 minute ago via web
by Supasam on Feb 22, 2011 2:32 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Two really pricey players on their roster.
Especially heading into the new CBA. I really don’t see how they substantially improve this current roster.
But does Thibs wanna give up Asik for Lee? Hope not
Lots of teams calling on Houston’s Shane Battier and Courtney Lee, execs say. Lee’s been a favorite of Thibodeau to fill CHI 2-guard role.
I will say this though
It sounds as if it would mean Lee would start soooooooo
I lean a bit more in favor of it
by Option27 on Feb 22, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I just don't think Lee is dynamic enough to to move Asik for him
If we’re down to move Asik, let’s go for a bigger fish. Get Memphis on the phone and make something happen for Mayo
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
NOO BUT HE DOES DRUGS AND BAD THINGS!
CHEMISTRY WIN YOU GAMES NOT TALENT!!
never forget...
1.7%
anything is possible...
by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 22, 2011 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
You should watch more basketball. Courtney Lee is a great outside shooter.
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 22, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd rather have MJ from 1991
"What do you think, I just dunked my whole career?" Jordan asked Henderson after making a 3.
"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
"That’s what Cleveland said," replied Jordan
i'm on the Lee bandwagon for a 1st round pick and/or JJ
he’d be a step up on D at the 2 and that is what we need to defend Ray Allen and Wade
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
I’d say he’s an upgrade over Bogans and about equal to what he can bring to Brewer
Lee and Afflalo would kill on this team. Young, athletic, can defend, can hit a decent percentage from 3, and be able to at least create better than Bogans.
Statistics are like a drunk with a lamppost: used more for support than illumination.
- Sir Winston Churchill
WojYahooNBA
Oklahoma CIty is taking a careful look at Memphis center Hasheem Thabeet, but only for a modest price, league executives tell Y!
I'd take it
Hasheem is talented, just very hard to find that talent. Plus, all of the Thunders big guys are pretty bad. Kristic, Green, Collison, no way can they make noise in the playoffs with that (not like Thabeet help to much, but he helps in the possible potential department).
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
4M+
For the record: John Hollinger and Chris Sheridan picked Milwaukee to win the Central Division: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/preview2010/news/story?page=Predictions1011-Central
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Ya forgot he went 2nd pick, was thinking it was like 9
What a terrible pick.
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
Good to see they're not taking a careless look at him.
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
Funny enough
Minny’s acquiring assets….
They pulled one over Memphis with the Kevin Love for Mayo (paying Love less money in the process).
Then they fleeced the Heat for cash and 2 2nd round picks for Beasley.
Now they’ve added Randolph, rid themselves of some crap, and well I know they pay Curry, but still….they have one more piece perhaps with Randolph who possibly could be their C.
They will have a #1-3 pick likely, which can be huge. And they’d have $15-20M to spend for the SG spot…
Rubio might be coming and by next year they coudl look like:
Rubio-Ridnour-Flynn
SG via free agency (SG by committe even and they’ll be better)-Webster
Bealesy with (Sullinger/Williams/Jones their likely pick)-Webster
Love-Beasley with Sullinger/Williams or Jones and Randolph
Randolph and Darko….
Hmm….Kahn is showing a pulse.
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
If he was smart
He would trade Flynn. Rubio looks halfway decent, Flynn looks like a fish out of the water flailing around at half court most of the time.
Not to mention, it’s the Timberwolves, just very unlucky.
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
That team would look a whooole lot better if they drafted Curry over Jonny Flynn.
Never undserstood that one. KAHN!!
True
But we’d look a whole lot better wtih LMA over Tyrus….
Even with Boozer, we’d look better having the younger cheaper and right now just as good but getting better by the game Aldridge.
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
3 picks used on PGs by Minny in that draft
And they end up with the worst of the whole bunch on their team.
I'm pretty sure Rubio is going to flame out in the NBA
If he ever comes over.
half of his highlight reel passes would get swatted away/stolen by NBA athletes. He’s like a QB playing for a division 2 school. He looks incredible but it’s because no one has the athletes to slow him down. They wouldn’t even need to be good defenders, just quick enough to get to the lobs he throws willy nilly.
And yes, I just wrote “willy nilly.”
by tuluse on Feb 23, 2011 1:28 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for the appropriately awesome use
Of the willy nilly tagline.
I don’t know on Rubio he has looked good against TEAM USA granted in FIBA rules…..(where Carlos Arroyo has also looked great at times as did Sarunas Jacksacagagabivigigous"
And yes I wrote “Jacksacagagabivigigous”
:)
I do love the use of willy nilly….
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
So happy with the state of our team
Rockets shopping Yao Ming, Chase Budinger, Courtney Lee, Terrence Williams, Jared Jeffries and Jordan Hill. All available for right price.
by Option27 on Feb 22, 2011 3:25 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Funny thing is
If it weren’t for the development of Taj/Asik, I would trade for any one of those guys except for Jared. Budinger has looked like a good roleplayer, Terrence Williams is extremely talented (basketcase though), Jordan Hill has got excellent talent and could be a PF like Boozer (or a total flop since he hasn’t showcased his potential yet).
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
I was pissed too, only cause he was a rookie
But, man, he looked lost and the game moved way to fast for him. Hill seems the same way, but is a lot slower in progressing. I would take a flyer on him, a 2nd rounder or 2 second rounders like the Beasely trade.
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
Noah?
I just remember him being out of shape but he still had a positive impact when he played. Hill just looks bad.
Agreed, Hill hasn't always looked the best
But prospects react differently to each system, a 2nd (or 3rd?) year player like Hill could still be useful and still progress to a decent role-player, especially one that was a lottery pick.
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
I think Chase Budinger would be excellent for this team
I know his shooting has dropped off but he seems like a more athletic Matt Bonner,
Alex Kennedy AlexKennedyNBA
Plenty of teams working the phones. As of right now, the Rockets, Blazers, Cavs, Mavs, Bulls, Bobcats, Nuggets, Warriors are most active.
by Supasam on Feb 22, 2011 3:33 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Gar is calling Pax
For the record: John Hollinger and Chris Sheridan picked Milwaukee to win the Central Division: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/preview2010/news/story?page=Predictions1011-Central
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
AlexKennedyNBA
Keep an eye on teams like Boston, New Jersey, New Orleans, Atlanta and Memphis. In other words, the next 24 hours should be fun.
Replacing Bogans...
For the record: John Hollinger and Chris Sheridan picked Milwaukee to win the Central Division: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/preview2010/news/story?page=Predictions1011-Central
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Is Melo playing tonight?
I can’t wait to see them lose. They’re overrated. That’s not just because I hate them. I hate the Heat, but they’re a good team. The Knicks really didn’t get too much better.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 22, 2011 4:03 PM CST reply actions
Tomorrow, against the Bucks
I didn't want to type this sentence, the force from an Omer Asik dunk made my fingers do it.
by Juiceboxjerry on Feb 22, 2011 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
Speaking of overrated
Are there many teams in worse shape than the Bucks? They really had an under-the-radar brutal off-season.
but i thought maggette and gooden
was going to make them better than the bulls!! ;)
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
lol
I will always remember this post.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 22, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
The post itself wasn't as bad as the replies that followed
If the Heat have A talent, and the Bulls B talent. The Bucks have C talent.
I liked how people were comparing rosters
PG Rose vs Jennings: Rose slightly better. Bogut vs Noah: Advantage Bogut… hahaha, love being able to have the gift of hindsight.
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
Freaking enter button, best part about it all:
On Kurt Thomas: “They’ll be happy… If they can squeeze 3.2 PPG, 1.5 RPG, and -0.3 Assists per game out of Thomas at this point..”
You go Big Sexy.
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
by The Voiss on Feb 22, 2011 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I loved
Boozer’s only a 3 time all-star. Not that impressed
Really? As opposed to Drew Gooden’s annual superstar play?
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Feb 22, 2011 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
read my sig
For the record: John Hollinger and Chris Sheridan picked Milwaukee to win the Central Division: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/preview2010/news/story?page=Predictions1011-Central
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
But the Bucks are more EFFICIENT
And have a higher team PER.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 22, 2011 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
Interesting, the three guys who picked the Bucks (Hollinger, Sheridan, Harper) all come off as anti-Bulls
At least at some point early in the season they did.
Statistics are like a drunk with a lamppost: used more for support than illumination.
- Sir Winston Churchill
Sheridan is just a NYK homer
He also said that the Knicks were a better fit for LeBron because they had Danilo Gallinari on the roster.
Why am not surprised?
Only 3 out of 25 picked the Bucks over the Bulls: Hollinger, Sheridan and Zach Harper from Daily Dime Live. At least they are consistent (at hating the Bulls).
by c4 on Feb 22, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
Something I noticed from that article...
Scoop Jackson had the Suns winning the Pacific, but the Lakers winning the west…
wtf?
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 22, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
yea he's an idiot
Embarrassed to call him a Chicagoan
by regui8er on Feb 22, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm perplexed by the amount of money teams are willing to pay Gooden
When he’s proven he’s a mediocre player time after time.
They have been so injured all year
Bogut ain’t 100%, Jennings has been hurt half the year (And wasn’t this stud in the making that he was billed as—whcih I thought was their biggest risk, but he’s been hurt), Delfino’s been hurt, Salmons has had minor injuries and another post Honeymoon crap start….
It's almost 2011 Bulls. Let's Get Grimy!!!
Now that this is over, is Broussard going on a sabbatical until summer 2012?
Statistics are like a drunk with a lamppost: used more for support than illumination.
- Sir Winston Churchill
he will start the Howard rumors
For the record: John Hollinger and Chris Sheridan picked Milwaukee to win the Central Division: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/preview2010/news/story?page=Predictions1011-Central
by JustAnotherFan on Feb 22, 2011 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
Tony Kornheiser refuses to see the Bulls as a signature NBA franchise
by Basketball Smurf on Feb 22, 2011 4:37 PM CST reply actions
Tony Kornheiser refuses to see anything under the age of 40 and not wearing a Wonderbra
Guilty Simpson should be our starting SG
by Rose Colored Goggles on Feb 22, 2011 4:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Uhh, ok. Which teams are, according to him?
Statistics are like a drunk with a lamppost: used more for support than illumination.
- Sir Winston Churchill
The Thunder
I mean, they have had a scoring champion in the past 10 years. Have the Bulls? NO!
/sarcasm
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 22, 2011 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
I think he just likes to rankle Wilbon.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Wasn't Wilbon the one trashing LeBron to his face after the Decision?
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 22, 2011 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
He's more rational than Skippy
But he’s just a hater
Rose: Who in the blue hell are you?
Rondo: Well
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE!
So JJ is now a Raptor
Statistics are like a drunk with a lamppost: used more for support than illumination.
- Sir Winston Churchill
Yup
CSNStucky Bulls trade James Johnson to Toronto. Details coming on Sportsnet Central
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 22, 2011 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
How awesome would it be if it were the Raptors 1st round pick? Not gonna happen though. Probably a second rounder.
livemediaminds RT @SpearsNBAYahoo: Bulls trade forward James Johnson to Raptors for a draft pick, source said.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 22, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
So, it's JJ to Toronto for Miami's first round pick, which Toronto owns...
@ESPNChiBulls CORRECTION: In exchange for JJ, Bulls to receive Miami’s first-round pick in 2011, which Toronto owns.
@EricPincus The Miami pick will be low in a weak draft but surprised Bulls got that for James Johnson
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Feb 22, 2011 5:09 PM CST reply actions
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