Big Sexy + Big Red + JJ = $4.3 Mil to Play With It + $1.2 Mil in the Bank
I read the fanshots on Paxson, Bogans, and team chemistry in general and have come away with one conclusion. The Bulls aren't giving up anyone out the core rotation in any trade. We are strictly dealing with draft picks.
So how do you get away with that? You have to trade guys who will get bought out. Think Big Z last year with Cleveland. Now, we don't have to trade all three, but we can use them in some combination along with our picks to get an extra guy for cheap. No, this trade may not be the one that sends us to Championship bliss, but you may look back at it during a playoff series and say to yourself "Damn, glad we grabbed that guy."
Big Z was traded to Washington in the Antawn Jamison deal, never played a second in DC, was bought out, and a month later was right back with the Cavs for the stretch run. After this courageous run holding it down in the middle, don't you think Kurt deserves a nice month to rest his bones before the playoffs. Scals is nothing more than an extra coach at this point, see if he'll take a "consultant" gig during his month, not sure if that's legal.
The thing is finding a team that will let these guys walk. The best way to look for that is probably going to be a team that is rebuilding or doesn't have a 1st round pick at all. So, yea we realistically could land Mayo and come real close on Smith, but I doubt the Grizz or Nuggets are letting Kurt walk. Both teams need bigs.
If we use this method, we're going to have to take whatever kind of quality you can get. So it may not particularly be a SG, it may be a backup PG out there, or backup SF. Really, in most of the trades I would think JJ and our remaining cap space would be enough salary-wise. The teams I would reach out to are:
-- Cleveland -- Adding a 2nd round pick to JJ gets you Parker. I'd rather see if adding a 1st round pick can get us Jamario Moon.
-- Washington -- A 1st round pick and JJ is enough to get Al Thornton. A very nice backup to Deng, that has fallen out the rotation in DC.
-- Detroit -- I'm not sure they would do this deal, but I think they are going to try their best to blow that team up. They have some horrible contracts on that squad, and I really don't see them resigining Stuckey (after all the dustups with Kuester). Why not get a 1st for him? Send Kurt and 1st round pick for Stuckey and 2nd round pick (Nuggets)
-- Milwaukee -- 1st round pick and Scals for CDR and give us our 2nd back, from the Salmons deal. Show some consistency and he could be the one to unseat Bogans. At the very least, he gives us a scorer off the bench.
-- Indiana -- With Paul George and Dahntay Jones looking pretty good under Vogel, maybe they are willing to ship Brandon Rush and 2nd round pick for JJ and 1st round pick.
You probably notice a trend. I definitely value another 2nd round pick, we already have Utah's and Phoenix's, over our late 1st round pick. If you look at the positions the Bulls are likely to be looking for in the draft next year, backup PG and swingman. The quality of the prospect in late 20's is pretty much the same as the prospect in the 40's.
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Obviously, shooting guard is the greatest need...
by not look into getting a small forward to back up Deng who can also play some minutes at the 2? We all keep bitching about Lu’s minutes, and really, if he gets hurt later this year it probably won’t matter who our shooting guard is anyways. I saw Thornton proposed in this fan post…anyone know of other threes who the Bulls could pursue?
by bleigh82 on Feb 19, 2011 8:01 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
You're describing Ronnie Brewer and Kyle Korver
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by Sports2 on Feb 19, 2011 8:39 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
If that was the case, they would be giving Lu more rest off the bench.
It would have to be someone Thibs is comfortable with. If that person exists I suppose.
Thibs
this will be the Bulls coaches downfall this year if Deng gets hurt or runs out of gas in May/June
Bulls might not win many blowouts but I think he has got to find a way to cut down Deng’s mins a little. No more PF mins once Noah is back and little more Brewer-Korver-Rose lineups can help get Deng a little more rested going into playoffs.
I’ve always knocked Deng for his lack of 3pt shot and dribble drive skills, but admit I’ve been very pleased with Deng and with his Def and ability to score and rebound on off end without hogging the ball he is big reason Bull are winning. Hope he can stay healthy and have top energy in playoffs as they will need him vs Lebron or Pierce to play D and keep them at least honest on Off
by NY Chicago Fan on Feb 19, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
I really hope that Omer gets all of Deng's PF minutes
(or Noah with Omer taking the C minutes)
it seems to me like now that we’ve added Kurt to the rotation and once Noah gets back, the place Kurt’s newfound minutes should come out of are Deng’s PF minutes. Noah and Omer are both scrawny, lengthy guys who could play any PF pretty well thanks to their length. Obviously, C is C and with Kurt it depends a lot on matchups…
but what i’m really saying is Omer’s pretty fast for a 7 footer, as is Noah, and that I think keeping Kurt in the rotation should allow Deng to take more time off. I don’t think it will, but I hope it will.
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by dantheman3k on Feb 20, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I expect that Thomas will play more than the total absence of minutes he played prior to Noah's injury.
So I too really hope those minutes come from Deng’s allotment, and not Asik’s (or Noah’s, which is much less likely after the first few games).
Try calling the local escort service
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by Sports2 on Feb 19, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Tibs should just sub on the fly
Like they do in hockey, when Bulls cross half-court on offense, Korver jumps off the bench and Brewer sits down.
by Gorditadog on Feb 19, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sigh I really wish we coulda kept our first/Kirk
traded our future first to move up and grab Paul George.
Would be such a better situation, plus I realllllllllly wanted Paul George haha.
Did you guys hear about the new Lebron James Iphone?
You have to keep it on vibrate because it has no rings.
If we could get Stuckey for that cheap
I’ll stop waiting to see if Rip gets bought and joins us for cheap. Nice second group scored and probably better running the point while Rose is out then CJ
by ArchieHemmingway on Feb 19, 2011 2:50 PM CST reply actions
we can't.
they won’t. Dream, but dream responsibly.
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde

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