Day one of NBA free agency signings: Serious tampering allegations against Nets in Howard talks, Grant Hill staying in PHX
At 2 p.m. EST on Friday, NBA teams can begin signing free agents and we'll be updatng in this post, mostly related to teams and players relevant to the Bulls fate.
The salary cap will be $58.044 million, luxury tax line will be $70.307 million, and teams minimum payroll will be $46.435, Ken Berger tweeted. The Bulls are currently just under $65 million.
Bulls targets -- reported and potential:
- As mentioned in yesterday's post, Caron Butler will sign with the Clippers, Shane Battier with the Heat, Tracy McGrady with the Hawks, Tayshaun Prince (not recently targeted) back with the Pistons.
- Grant Hill (unrestricted): Will re-sign with the Suns to a one-year, $6.5 million deal. Don't chalk this up under not-willing-to-take-less-to-win category, though. Hill's an old family man, who lives in Scottsdale, AZ, and credits the Suns' training staff with rejuvenating his career.
- Chauncey Billups (waivers): Will be waived by the Knicks after they sign Tyson Chandler under the amnesty clause of the new CBA. Not a reported target of the Bulls, but fans can't resist the possibility. That said, again, the Bulls can only offer the mid-level exemption [assuming he gets through secondary waivers. He's claiming he'll throw a tantrum if he's claimed, but I'd hope a team would call his bluff -yfbb].
- Dwight Howard (unrestricted after the 2011-12 season): The trade rumor to the Nets was one-sided and now riddled with serious controversy. There are allegations not that tertiary parties of the Nets and Howard's camp, but that Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov personally met with Howard on Thursday. The Magic is considering filing with the league and are reportedly "not at all interested" in the Nets' offer. This is a serious tampering allegation to meet with a player-under-contract without explicit permission from the player's team. Joakim Noah can't be traded before Jan. 15, 2012, so a preseason deal is beyond the fringe.
- Keith Bogans (Bulls' team option for 2011-12): Attended the first day of Bulls training camp on Friday, though the Bulls have yet to pick up the $1.73 million team option. They're extended to do so and there's no reason to be against it.
- Gilbert Arenas (waivers): Orlando used the amnesty clause to waive him. Sounds like a great idea if he grows a couple of inches, guard someone, and didn't need 15 shots to get 11 points. No word from the Bulls.
- Marcus Thornton (restricted): Another one not reported as a Bulls target, but a favorite among many Bulls fans while he flew under the radar in New Orleans. His skills aren't a secret anymore, so the Kings re-signed him to a five-year, $40 million deal.
- Wilson Chandler (restricted) and J.R. Smith (unrestricted): Both are playing in China and locked into their deals through March. The Chinese Basketball Association reportedly caps player salaries at $60,000 per month. The NBA recently allowed for teams to pay up to $500,000 to buy teams out of their Chinese deals. Neither of these players are on the Bulls radar to buy them out.
Other relevant transactions on Friday not reported before yesterday's post:
- Tyson Chandler (unrestricted): All day Thursday, there was apprehension to call it a done deal, but Chandler will indeed sign with the Knicks to a four-year, $60 million deal. I was on board with the speculation that this doesn't mean they've given up on acquiring Chris Paul, but that Amare Stoudemire or Carmelo Anthony will be dangled in the package between now and the trade deadline. The Hornets did turn down a deal including Stoudemire. Will they offer 'Melo? They should, so Bulls fans shouldn't want this, but either way the Knicks have definitely become bigger and somewhat scarier.
- Brandon Bass traded for Glen Davis (unrestricted): Relevant because Bass is a great improvement by the Celtics. He showed he can hang with starters, allowing for better minutes management of Kevin Garnett, playing a KG-Bass frontcourt looked silly at times with Davis. No way Davis' addition and Bass' subtraction makes Howard like Orlando more. The deal was a sign-and-trade by the Cs. (h/t: BDL)
- James Jones (unrestricted): Re-signed by the Heat for three years, less than $2 million per.
- Mario Chalmers (unrestricted): Re-signed by the Heat.
- Mickael Pietrus (traded): Not a Bulls target, but somewhat fits the mold of what fans want. Traded by the Suns to the Raptors for a conditional second-round pick. Pietrus is to make $5.3 million this season.
- Not Bulls-relevant, but Brandon Roy's health is forcing him to retire. He had surgery last season when no meniscus had him operating bone-on-bone in both. He was informed that he can play no more. Sad story. Great talent. Good guy. Tough as nails. I don't romanticize much, so give me this.
Find confirmed updates of other player transaction developments at The SBNation StoryStream.
Another handy tool: The Free Agent Scoreboard
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My expectations are sooooo low, I just want Bogans resigned.
by adocarbog on Dec 9, 2011 12:51 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Maybe I'm bitter, but I'm still pissed the CP3 trade got vetoed
I’ll be more pissed if the hornets contract later
I’ll be more pissed when the Bulls don’t do anything today except sign Bogans and announce Rose’s new contract
and I’ll be super fly motherfucking TNT in March when we don’t sign JR and Chandler goes back to the Nuggets.
Fuck it, I’m signing off and going to work. 8 Hours of being a custodian and cleaning up human feces. Improvement. What the fuck.
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by dantheman3k on Dec 9, 2011 12:59 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I STILL think that trade will be back on
it’s that dumbfounding to me.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
lakers gettin paul man
if not now atleast by jan
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
Stern's middle name is Stubborn
I am not so sure. Legal action will be taken for sure.
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
I think the teams will have to file an appeal...
And at least get it in front of an arbitrator…and I agree, I think it will be back on.
New signature coming...but its a process.
by Dionysus2.0 on Dec 9, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Stern: "we would like to say to LAL fans that we are sorry and not only we will allow the CP3 trade
but we also going to give you D12"
by JustAnotherFan on Dec 9, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
I bet those jerks @ Blazer's Edge
wish they could virtually swear today…
"The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote: 'A flute with no holes is not a flute, And a doughnut with no hole is a Danish.' He was a funny guy."
by Ugh It Live! on Dec 9, 2011 1:02 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
they are considering colorful language
maybe cool colors first to test the water and some more vibrant ones as the reality sets in.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 9, 2011 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Roy's retirement frees up a great deal of cap space
a year from now. They already knew Roy wasn’t returning to form, so although everyone is sad for him, this news isn’t bad for the team.
they had long since decided they wanted to let roy walk
but wanted him to retire, they (b.e.)claimed it was cuz he had bad knees, but im pretty sure they wanted him to retire so they could take his salary off the books without amnesty and most of all, so no other team could have him. Im pretty sure they are doing fake ass memorials while secretly high fiving each other, roy is off the books and at the same time not playing for any other team…victory
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
do they still have to pay him his whole contract in a retirement situation?
or are they off the hook there?
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
his contract is off the books
starting next season
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Billups is a guy
I was hoping could be had under the radar.
But with the amnesty waivers set-up and the fat contract he has, that won’t happen via trade.
But he’s an ideal guy to bring into what the Bulls have.
- Sufficient defender
- Great ball-handler
- Deadly 3-PT shot
- Experienced
Even if he gets claimed in amnesty waivers, Bulls should go all out to trade for him once he’s eligible to be moved since his cost should be less; equal to the value of his amnesty claimed cost.
by kingj41 on Dec 9, 2011 1:03 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I don't remember what I read
but I think there’s something weird about trading a player you claim off amnesty waivers. I can’t wait for Larry Coon’s site to get updated w/ the new CBA details
There was twitter chatter
that Billups deal is only 4 mil guaranteed. The other 10 mil is nonguaranteed.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
Not sure why Bulls fans would be excited about Billups
That situation has Miami written all over it
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
that's a problem
sorry, everyone-Miami-signs-sucks-we-barely-lost crowd. He’s a better PG than Carlos Arroyo or whoever else they had in their rotation besides Chalmers.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
So is this a situation where we attempt to sign him just so the Heat cannot get him?
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
We could obviously use him is my reasoning behind that
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
meh...probably not
I’m not at that point yet, I’d hope it’s to help the Bulls first, and I’m not sure he’s a great fit.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
He can play a bit of SG...it definitely ain't a great pick up, but if it keeps him out of the Heat's hands, I'll bite
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
Are people basing this sg thing off that one tiny stint for FIBA?
Is there any other reason to think that he would consider doing it? I just don’t see how the Bulls are a real fit
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
They aren't really. I just would hate to see him and Battier both joining the heat.
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
Winderman discounts the chances of the Heat acquiring Billups
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
by NBA Observer on Dec 9, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
From what i have read
Billups and his agents are playing hardball. There was a threat sent that he is furious that he got traded off a contender and “bidders beware” aka teams that are under the cap shouldn’t bid on him
From what i read he wants the starting pg spot on the heat… go figure
He really has no leverage though
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
he is at the tail end of his career
and would only have to sit out a shortened, compact season, which especially hard on veterans. A full (shortened) seasons rest, no contract to wiggle out of, and a full training camp with the Heat is very in the realm of possibilities for Billups.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
I agree he's at the end of his career...
But Billups game has never been about superior athleticism. He’s a tremendously smart player that could destroy teams next to LeBron and Wade. It would be very bad IMO if he ends up on the Heat.
by Khalid El-Amin on Dec 9, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
What a shit-head:
[Billups] has no intention of being open-minded about any possible situation where a team would claim him off waivers unless it’s a team he chooses himself.
this is bullshit, and THIS is the kind of thing the league intervenes.
Even if Billups holds a shitstorm, it’s bad business for all the under-the-cap teams to pass on him. They put in a minimum bid. He’s there for 1 season at the minimum.
Problem is if there’s indeed a rule that claims can’t be traded. If they can in 3 months or whatever, teams should still put a bid on him, call his bluff, worse case you get something off of a contender at the deadline.
IF HE WANTS TO PICK HIS TEAM, OPT OUT OF HIS CONTRACT
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:40 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
That last point is right on.
You don’t take all that money from NY and then get to decide where you go. Too late for that Chauncey.
eh, he went to the finals
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Where did you read that?
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
is he any better than Brewer/Korver/Bogans though?
I mean, I guess as a Bogans replacement he’s not bad, but if that’s the only guy we get then I’m certainly not going to get smiling.
More like shaking my fist in the air because GarPaxDorf did something totally expected.
by Rose Colored Goggles on Dec 9, 2011 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
He doesn't "suck"
He is not a star, but he was the main offensive option for times in Milwaukee’s anemic offense and he shot 42%. His 3pt shot has been improving, he can handle the ball and he also plays defense AND wants to wee-un like Rose.
Certainly not the worst option
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
His 3 point shot is improving
all the way up to 32.6 percent, which is sadly a dramatic improvement from the 26% he shot the previous 2 years.
i remember once before derrick was drafted,
when there was dumbass debate over him and beasley, some visionary memphis fan said cdr was the best player on the team. i still can’t believe it.
by obnoxious american on Dec 9, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
he was the "leader"
because he was talented and an junior. Rose was by far the best player. The offense Memphis ran (aka. dribble drive) set up really well for CDR. He could finish over guys and him and rose would just drive and kick to antonio anderson or dorsey near the rim.
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
they won in the tournament because the team realized that Rose was the best player.
CDR is an ok player, but man, I don’t even know if after his rookie season we thought Rose would turn into this.
"What do you think, I just dunked my whole career?" Jordan asked Henderson after making a 3.
"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
"That’s what Cleveland said," replied Jordan
I saw it coming
A PG with a 40’ vertical who can blow by anyone at anytime with a habit of coming up big in big games. Give him a jumpshot and damn he’s good
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
yeah, but this guy's exact words were "rose isn't even the best player on his team."
so awesome.
by obnoxious american on Dec 9, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
No!
We need him! then are starting lineup would be #1, #5, #9, #13, and #17!
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
You get a rec. Nerd.
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by kidronmusic on Dec 9, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
now if it was #1 #5 #7 #13 #17
it would be way kewler
by Gen on Dec 9, 2011 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
1 is not a prime number if that's what you were going for
It would need to be 2,5,7,13,17
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
I know
But he has 1,5,7,13,17…not a 9 in there
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
Oh, sorry.
I got lost in the staggered posts, I was referring to the original nerd post.
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That must be the most compelling argument for signing a guy I've ever seen. Nice work!
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
he said he's not going to be in the NBA this year
http://www.hoopsworld.com/dougals-roberts-staying-overseas/
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
Do you have a site or place to see the statlines for the guys in europe and china?
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
you're gonna scout all year?
google?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
yes and everything is either in spanish, italian, or chinese
I speak english, dammit
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
He does not have an opt out clause. I read somewhere that NBA teams can help buy out contracts so if we wanted him I believe we could get him.
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
This is a handy tool
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:30 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Thanks.
And, Marcus Thornton… Yes please.
by Khalid El-Amin on Dec 9, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
Alright, at this point I'll settle for rumors about the Bulls tampering
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 1:33 PM CST reply actions 10 recs
Emiliano Carchia: Brian Scalabrine is signing with Chicago Bulls a non guaranteed contract. The White Mamba started the season with @Benetton_Basket
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 1:33 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
this is sad
No one wants to come
Should've traded for Melo.
by sin on Dec 9, 2011 1:37 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
its like a bad orgy
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
by Belize on Dec 9, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
Who the hell would flag this?
it’s outstanding!
"What do you think, I just dunked my whole career?" Jordan asked Henderson after making a 3.
"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
"That’s what Cleveland said," replied Jordan
Arenas waived.
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
RT @JoshuaBRobbins: #Orlando #Magic have just announced that Gilbert Arenas has been waived
1 minute ago
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 1:38 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
can he out-duel his spiritual GSW replacement, CJ Watson?
eh…probably not.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
Arenas wouldn't be so bad...
For the right price. He would be a nice second unit scoring option.
by Khalid El-Amin on Dec 9, 2011 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
Arenas doesn't deserve the minutes he would cut away from Watson.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 9, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
so can Watson
and 2 other guys
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
so can Watson. We can go back and forth on this
but in my opinion, Watson does everything Arenas would do for the Bulls and does/would do it better
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
WWhat I'm saying is that Gilbert and Watson could run the second unit together...
Unless we want to watch our offense stagnate with Rose out and Kyle running pick and pops for 10 minutes every night.
by Khalid El-Amin on Dec 9, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
on paper that seems reasonable.
And its an interesting talking point. But I hope to never see an Arenas/Watson backcourt in a Bulls uni. Ever.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
LOL, fair enough.
It’s not THAT appealing to me either. I was just thinking about 10 minutes a game at most, but you’re probably right.
by Khalid El-Amin on Dec 9, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
this isn't 2007
Watson looks really good with the Bulls, especially in the game that Rose had to sit out. No reason to bring in a very similar guy to do the same things.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
Agree -
To disagree.
CJ certainly became a better player as the season went on, but he is very limited in what he can do.
New signature coming...but its a process.
I wouldn't mind Agent 0 bringing his guns to the locker room.
"What do you think, I just dunked my whole career?" Jordan asked Henderson after making a 3.
"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
"That’s what Cleveland said," replied Jordan
i wouldnt mind him brigin m to board meetings
maybe thats what our small market owner needs….

I SAID RUN THAT CHECKBOOK FOOL!!!!
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
by Belize on Dec 9, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
did you really just bust out a City of God reference?
Nice!
"What do you think, I just dunked my whole career?" Jordan asked Henderson after making a 3.
"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
"That’s what Cleveland said," replied Jordan
lil dice FTW, nice lol
...and we're back
by paddyfairview on Dec 9, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
Dang, that was a costly move
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
This is who the Bulls should target...
He has enough size to play the two, can hit ridiculous shots, and has the handles of PG. Bring Hibachi to the Bulls!
New signature coming...but its a process.
We'd have to pay him
Arenas will receive about $62 million over the next seasons. The Magic will pay all of that unless a team makes a bid on him in a modified waiver-wire process.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
wouldn't we only pay what we bid?
I don’t think anyone expected him to be here for free
WE CANT BID
a team under-the-cap can bid, if they don’t, he’s an unrestricted free agent
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I know we can't
it was a “say this was the case” question…I was trying to be helpful sniff
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
Wow, I forgot just how awful that contract was. I just got re-shocked that the Magic traded for him in the first place
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
It's throwing shit against the wall
to make Dwight Howard stick.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
by NBA Observer on Dec 9, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLineRT @JoshuaBRobbins: #Orlando #Magic have just announced that Gilbert Arenas has been waived
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 1:38 PM CST reply actions
now as opposed to before, why.
just as likely/unlikely
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
Because
all signs point to the Nuggets matching any offer he were to receive from another team.
Afflalo’s was most peoples dream guy. Never really a realistic option.
I hope I can say I did my best, achieved a lot and won a couple of world championships. - Michael Jordan, circa 1984.
with nene gone, according to the fan base
it becomes more realistic,since afflalo isnt someone they can build around. Its to them of better interest to let him walk as oppose to match every offer for him since there seemingly is no point. Still, id think another team would have more money to throw at them than the bulls…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 9, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
There's this team called the Nuggets
Honestly, when there’s a sign they won’t match every penny offered to him, I think we start seriously questioning.
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by Alex Sonty on Dec 9, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
we have to hope stern doesnt veto it
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
well are least the preposterous
Nene/Afflalo package is out the door.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
The Nuggets are short players right now
JR Smith, Chandler, and Kenyon Martin are all in China and cannot get out.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
Goes to show how slow things are going with the Bulls today ...
Friedell reporting on Charles Barkley’s thoughts on Bulls SG needs.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 1:46 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I think we should celebrate these Magic moves today
Orlando traded for a worse player and gave him a worse contract. Rumor is that Big Baby is a ‘friend’ of Howards which helped the move.
Well, Jarrett Jack was supposedly BFF with Chris Paul. And Chris Bosh! When GMs trade for these dudes friends they’ve already proved incompetent, the stars ultimately want to WIN. I do think that Otis Smith’s doing the right thing by trying to placate Dwight (trading him guarantees he’ll be fired anyway), but do it by making your team better, not by getting whoever Dwight asks for.
And last time Smith had a go-for-broke hunch it got him Gilbert Arenas, who he just cut.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:47 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Bass seemed to be in Van Gundy's doghouse, though.
I’ve always liked BBass but he wasn’t getting a shot in ORL and it seemed like a sunk cost for Otis.
is Davis really that much worse than Bass
if anything it seems like it would be a wash.
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to be honest, I didn't as much research is as figure Big Baby sucks
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:51 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
drinkin', dawg?
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by Alex Sonty on Dec 9, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
he's pretty awful
I GUESS his limitations (rebounding, defense, fitness) could be masked by Dwight and he’s more of a system player than Bass, who’s more of a ball-stopper.
Maybe it’s more the contract he got, plus they could’ve gotten something else for Bass
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
personally i would have just said Davis is fat.
props to yfbb for keepin it classy
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Davis is a disaster....
I was referring to the legibility of that comment.
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by Alex Sonty on Dec 9, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Big Baby is nice
yall just dont know..he nice and next to dwight he’s perfect…
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
Yeah, it looks like Smith and the Magic are going down with the ship
Stupid, but whatever. And since it looks like Howard seriously wants to go to New Jersey (WTF), I really don’t give a shit either way anymore
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
link?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
found it: BROUSSARD
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
If the market dictates 5/40
for Thornton, I don’t want it coming to us. I’d rather they worked on a deal.
well that woulda had to have been a deal
S/T, as Bulls obviously can’t do that figure with MLE
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
I dunno if I want him at 5/40 in any capacity.
He’s a small guy, listed at 6"4 but I remember him being as tall as Rose.
Damn
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by chicity773 on Dec 9, 2011 1:49 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Is there a particular reason the Bulls F/O is so damn quiet right now?
Are they just so completely out of all the talks or are they planning something?
"What do you think, I just dunked my whole career?" Jordan asked Henderson after making a 3.
"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
"That’s what Cleveland said," replied Jordan
Yes.
They’re letting the market come to them. So it is written by KC, so it shall be done.
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
did his column have the standard rainbow at the end of it?
"What do you think, I just dunked my whole career?" Jordan asked Henderson after making a 3.
"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
"That’s what Cleveland said," replied Jordan
by MRubio52 on Dec 9, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I have a feeling they're working on something that we don't know about.
I mean, I’m not entirely shocked that they’re not so active, as the Bulls are crazy young and their best player is still on the rise. In all seriousness, this last season was really the first year some of these guys have been coached, as the VDN experience had no positive effects on Rose, Noah, Taj, etc. Even if the team stays as is, it will be improved next season, but that likely won’t be enough. I’ve got faith a move will be made.
It did have one positive experience
It shouldve taught them to always listen to Thibs, because he actually has a shred of knowledge and not just perfect hair
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by HawkeyeBoiler on Dec 9, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
yes, theres the potential of being too eager
and getting into a bidding war with yourself. Its a boring strategy, but if you wait for the desperate teams to get out of the buyers market, you can get whats left at market value or lower.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
I guess I can see that
I’d just rather have them play it big than play it safe. I think this year has a lot of potential if the f/o makes the right moves.
"What do you think, I just dunked my whole career?" Jordan asked Henderson after making a 3.
"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
"That’s what Cleveland said," replied Jordan
Pax is flying to Philly to pick up Noc
Did I say flying? I meant driving in a Pinto with the Notre Dame mascot in the backseat.
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by NBA Observer on Dec 9, 2011 2:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
What about Terrence Williams?
He’s on the Rockets now. I know he’s got some screws loose in his head, but if I remember correctly he’s real good when he’s right. Athletic, ball handling, scoring. Maybe he could be had for cheap? Somehow? Maybe? Bueller?
I'm getting too old for this shit...
I'd rather just play Jimmy Butler more, or something
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
Wouldn't it be awesome if Jimmy Butler was the steal of the century?
Like Tom Brady in the 6th round awesome. Or MJ with the 3rd pick awesome.
I'm getting too old for this shit...
my favorite thing about butler is his efficiency
the guy took high percentage shots in the flow of the offense, and converted more often than not, and got to the FT line at an excellent rate.
also, he had quite a few hero-ball game winners as welll.
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
seems extremely unlikely that thibs would play that guy
...and we're back
by paddyfairview on Dec 9, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
When Dan actually talks about the NBA and doesn't cry about
how the Bulls can’t win because they don’t have Lebron, he’s solid. Holmes is unbearable, IMO. I’ll tune in a bit here at work.
Holmes is unbearable
thank you. so tired of hearing about how people love that droning fool.
by obnoxious american on Dec 9, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
id rather have Goff on there
he’s a fun listen
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by HawkeyeBoiler on Dec 9, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
He'll be on tonight at 6:00-10:00
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
I’m mostly on here for the NBA around the league news. I don’t expect the least from the Bulls FO knowing how they are. Well, get ready to feel beat up again Rose.
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Stick around, I hear at 6pm we're having chicken wings and strippers
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So if Thornton got 8 mil per
what does that set the market for Nick Young? Is that just a pipe dream or can we finagle something out with Washington?
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I think it definitely sets it around there, but also could keep the Wiz from wanting it
I’m not sure we should either.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
Even if we did, how could the team afford him?
All they have is the MLE.
S/T
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sign and trade
Young’s salary in a s&t would be subject to byc reduction and he could be dealt before Jan. 15. Noah just couldn’t be included.
I would pay 8mil for Marcus Thorton...
we would have to dump Korver or something. I don’t watch much western conference but he seems to be pretty good.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
I really don't think Nick Young is worth 8 million a year
I'm getting too old for this shit...
On the bright side, I have Game 6 of the Boston series on my iTunes
so i have something to pass the time while the FO piddles around
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Man oh man ....
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
As teams wait to re-engage Hornets on Chris Paul, here’s one executive: “Truly feel for those guys, but we’re all gonna lowball them now.”
1 minute ago
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 2:00 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Del Demps should sue his employers for creating a hostile work environment.
And harassment.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
just made me think of:
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=1NTK4xBIj5A
...and we're back
by paddyfairview on Dec 9, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
because no one got together and decided to
its just the guy sharing the opinion of what other teams will probably end up doing
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by HawkeyeBoiler on Dec 9, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
I think Twitter could re-define what collusion actually is IMO...
The hive mind at work.
by Khalid El-Amin on Dec 9, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
One thing is certain...
CP3 is definitely not resigning with NO. If for no other reason than to stick it to Stern and the owners. He has pride.
This does not help NO. They will not beat that trade. It was a damn fine haul for them given the circumstances. They are definitely losing their star and now they have lost their chance to hit the ground running.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
That would reduce the total compensation available to him
But he could.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
What does that mean?
If the NBA didn’t allow them to deal Paul for Odom, Martin and Scola, why would he think the league would accept a worse offer?
Because allowing the Lakers to take CP3 took 21million out of the luxary tax share.
Nobody should ever fool themselves into believing that veto had anything to do with basketball.
by Khalid El-Amin on Dec 9, 2011 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
They'll accept any result that does not create another super team.
NBA owners are pissed that the Miami trio happened. There are 30 teams and a lack of super talent. Every team wants a top player and to have 6 of them locked away in Miami and LA is plain evil.
That’s why I hope we do not go after Howard. I want a star in DRose and a very deep team. Worked for the Mavs due to their experience.
Isn't Chris Paul effectively
stuck in NO for the rest of the season?
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Am I the only one sensing a holdout of epic proportions?
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fake fines to follow?
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by NBA Observer on Dec 9, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
29 other owners
They all own 1/29th of the P&L.
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by NBA Observer on Dec 9, 2011 2:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Something gotta happen.
I hope I can say I did my best, achieved a lot and won a couple of world championships. - Michael Jordan, circa 1984.
No big deal guys
That was just Gar, and he was gonna lowball them anyway
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
I knew the market would come to us!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The market! It's already here!
KCJHoop K.C Johnson
#Bulls also will announce formality of Jimmy Butler signing rookie deal soon.
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 2:04 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Yay Jimmy's on the team!
Have they put him in nba 2k12 yet?
"Bud Light."
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So can the bulls get J.R. out of China for half a mil, or is there something more to it...
do they still have to wait a couple of months, does the 500,000 just guarantee they’re the first ones to offer a contract to him. We’re just gonna roll with Bogans aren’t we?
On the J.R. Smith bandwagon until otherwise advised.
Bogans, Bogans, he's our man
If he can’t do it, we won’t pay anyone else!
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by Brigade17 on Dec 9, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
The Chinese have to agree to it...
and I heard that the Chinese version of David Stern is putting heavy pressure on the teams not to accept the buyouts (no link, sorry).
However, I do not think that they have figured a borderline sociopath known as JR Smith into their calculations! No league in the world can have him playing for even a month without wanting him to leave!
That said, we should totally pick him up if we can…
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder if we can trade them some Tiger testicles
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Rare chinese delicacy
Quite rare and traded, illegally.
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"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
sources said those teams could be willing to agree to steep buyouts to let the players return to the NBA. The players would have to return all the salary they’ve made, plus agent fees and an additional $1 million to satisfy owners – but that still won’t assure them they could play in the NBA.
As a member of FIBA, the government-run Chinese Basketball Association would still control the players’ letters of clearance, and sources in China insist the league has no interest in allowing the NBA players to leave before season’s end in March. NBA teams can’t sign free agents without letters of clearance showing the players are free of contract breaches elsewhere in the world.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_nba_free_agent_buzz_120511
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if I were a player in China
i would just play it out in China, try and win as many games as possible there, and come back in March ready to go. no sense going through all that hassle imho
by kpd on Dec 9, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Here it is. The Market is Coming. And his name is Vince.
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Bulls will check on this. RT @paulcoro: The Suns waived Vince Carter today. They owe him the guaranteed $4M of his contract’s $18M salary.
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 2:13 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
lmao...man..seriously
im just smiling over here right now..like i knew it would come to this..and yet I tried to think that it wouldn’t but i knew it would and it did so whatever bring on Air Canada
but..i sure aint buy that mot##f**kers jersey tho
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
10 years
too late
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by chicity773 on Dec 9, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
not sure what he's up to, but i just got an email from "him" regarding the DNC in charlotte and fundraising.
weird day.
I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.
I'm a little surprised we haven't heard more rumors about them dangling Omer and/or Taj
it will be very interesting to see what happens with those guys going into free agency. The market for bigs is still looking out of control, and if one or both have a big year…
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 2:16 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Taj + Pick for Mayo is a deal I'd be on board for.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
Same, although the fact that Mayo is a free agent at the end of the year is somewhat of a deterrant
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but they'd still have to pay him
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but they could see a starting sg as more of a priority than a backup C/PF
A lot easier to justify paying the former
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
When do they become free agents?
My guess is that the Bulls probably keep one…the other will eventually be moved at some point. Keeping both is probably not realistic.
Omer's restricted FA after this year
Taj has a year after that
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
how does restricted free agency and bird rights work?
could the Bulls match an offer sheet to Omer even though they’re over the cap?
by kpd on Dec 9, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
to be brief
yes.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i think exactly that
is the point of bird rights.
They have the right to offer
whatever they want based on years of experience, and match anything that any other team offers if the player signs the offer sheet.
MLE is 5Mil per year. That's $100,000 per week or a bit over $14,000 per day. How the
hell can you not get a very good player a SG for that.
Whare’s the talent? How the hell did Marcus Thornton just got 8Mil per year for 5 years?
because theres a stupid team out there waiting to pay
2-3 million more.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 9, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It's a seller's market.
Too many teams cleared room and just not enough high quality starters to go around. Simmons actually had a nice piece about how many absurd contracts would be handed out this month because of that disparity.
A lot of teams with cap space that HAVE to spend cash
The idea that a player would take less money to play with the Bulls was somewhat silly and overblown anyway
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
I think the Bulls are actually playing it right by not ponying up right now...
the market is insane. As much as people complain about Gar/Pax not pulling the trigger, what would you propose they do? Match the Caron Butler offer?
We should not incur exposure to this terrible market. We should keep our core together. If at some point, we can poach an undervalued asset while some irrelevant team goes for a slam dunk move, we should do it. Other than that, we should wait for the market to settle and then make our moves.
They should formally offer JRich the MLE (if they haven’t already done so). If he takes it, fine. If not, we should not bid on him and I would only consider a S/T if it did not include any bigs or the Mirotic rights.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
if those shooting guard prospects weren't restricted
Young and Afflalo for example, and the situation with JR Smith, I’d be raging.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
sucks that the young talent
is restricted this year :(
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by Dionysus2.0 on Dec 9, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Counterpoint:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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by boyonthedock on Dec 9, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sacramento has lots of room under the cap
They have to increase that by CBA rule.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
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are you asking for people to explain the salary cap to you?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If we dont get mayo..affalo..dwight or a smart trade that keeps the team intact
its a fail iHmo…a epic fail..
its funny to me b/c i remember coming on this site and readin yfbb’s post about the org being cheap and laughing to myself like ya right..its just b/c where rebuilding but man…right on the nail. dead center. 1 shot 1 kill.
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
Cheap because they wouldn't give Butler 8 mil a year?
I call that smart.
by thatballhitdeepwayback on Dec 9, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
cheap because it doesn't seem like they're aggressively pursuing guys he made reference to.
Not signing butler to 8mil after a severe injury was the right move IMO.
Don't just say "they gotta make these moves."
If you can’t articulate a plan of attack on how to get Dwight, Afflalo, Mayo or a smart trade, don’t say they gotta make one.
lmao...really? really? ur a funny guy
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
I'm not trying to be funny, but I don't get how we can sit here and demand things
if we have no suggestions on how to go about it. I understand hope, but I think people here are demanding things without completely thinking things through.
JBJ and dakoose voices of reason....
WTF is going on!?!…I kid i kid
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
I'm reasonable outside of game threads, I think.
But in those 2-3 hours when the Bulls are out there running around, I lose my damn mind.
lol..ok man
btw…imho means in my humble opinion..like mines..maybe the m and h being switched around confused you. my apologies, ill try and be more eloquent next time i type a comment
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
Its obviously your opinion, you wrote the damn comment.
I don’t need to see IMHO to know thats what you think. If you didn’t think it you wouldn’t have written it. I’m simply challenging your opinion to see why you think the way you do.
Well I’m simply challenging your opinion to see why you read into things the way you do.
tomato/toma-toe
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
I've explained everything I've said in response to your opinion.
I’m done with this.
I agree with this...
All I read is….
Belize: I want such and such
Dakoose: How do we get such and such?
Belize: Wait, how could you ask me such a thing?
This is going nowhere… fast.
by Basketball on Dec 9, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
How do we get such and such is the front office's job
im just a fan that wants. is that wrong?
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
no.
but you can approach it with rational thought. that might help a bit
ok..explain to me what's irrational about me wanting them to make a good move?
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
The fact that it lacks.....rationale?
Its based on hope, not reason, and is therefore irrational.
A good move might not be available.
The Bulls don’t exist in a vacuum. There are other teams out there and Bulls don’t have much to offer.
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by Alex Sonty on Dec 9, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i thought we had good assets & great pieces such as Taj/Asik and Deng..even Boozer (even though trading him away is not going to be easy and definately not reasonable)..but we still have better pieces than most teams. We have a great market..good history..fans…etc etc..only rub is that its a cold city..
trading aside…a good move doesn’t necessarily mean a trade..just seeing them pursue players feels good..even though we lost Bosh/wade/bron sweepstakes last year, it feel good to know that they try. i just want to see them have more “ummph”..b/c at the end of the day, titles don’t come cheap and although you said might, to me that equates to hope and hope is all i have left..
my only other hope is that we have the same run last year but better and we were so lucky last year with heath & schedule
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
Additionally, the Bulls are beyond the cap already and are limited in terms of straight out signings.
Their (tradeable) young talent is all in the frontcourt; nobody is gonna give the Bulls much for Korver or Brewer. Should the Bulls trade away legit players like Taj and Omer now or should they wait and see what happens later on in the season when more options open up? Maybe they can finagle a way to get Smith or Chandler away from China?
hmm...maybe we should have signed T-Mac after all
by kpd on Dec 9, 2011 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I actually kind've agree with that...
didn’t he agree to a vet’s minimum. After all of this insanity it seems a welcome relief. He could have taken on some of Lu’s minutes too.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah..
TMac at the minimum is starting to look like one hell of a bargain.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Dec 9, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Bargain.. yes...
But for us? I don’t think he actually makes us better. I’d rather have Korver or Brewer or Watson out there at any given point in time..
I think he's better than Watson
Even if all he did was come off the bench and play 15 mpg, that at least gives us an improved second unit.
Pat Riley is the devil.
I guess my worry is..
that added offense to the second unit is the only benefit I see from him at this point. And if we sign him, I just hope thibs doesn’t get to fancy and ruin the better and higher impact lineups
VC or T-Mac makes no difference to me
he is the full for rushing into that contract
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
You couldn't pay me to take VC onto this team...
TMac is at least a decent locker room guy. VC is a damned burden.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
one thing about VC...we wouldn't have to play him anymore
i could be wrong, but he always seemed to go off against the Bulls the last few years.
by kpd on Dec 9, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
Wilson Chandler is an RFA, he's likely to stay with the Nuggets
And poses same issues Bulls have with other FAs who can command more than the MLE.
I’ve really seen no indication that the Bulls would bend their usually pretty strict ‘player code’ to acquire J.R. Smith. I’m not even sure I want him, beyond his off-court antics he seems like a poor teammate just in terms of shot selection.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
since i gotta expand on this
i am not saying they need to or they have to, but simply “the time is now” to be cliche about things. If we finish the season with a roster the same as last while everyone upgraded, then that sucks to me. If we make a trade that hobbles our team, that sucks too..but if we can somehow keep our core, or upgrade certain positions while still being a better team, that’s impressive and worthwhile..even if that means a simple trade as Crawford for brewer 9i know its hypothetical now, but it was fun to read at the time). I just want to feel like Im routing for a good, smart team…not a team that questions every move so much that there is no move to make at the end. Sorry to be a debbie downer but if you have been riding with this team since the MJ era, you should feel very anxious this year..more than any year since MJ came back in 1995.
Basically, im just a very anxious fan waiting to see SOMETHING..ANYTHING that makes me say “ya, f’ your squad, we are ready”
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
looks like the nets are offering nene 4years 60-65mil
See the most important parts are the ones that are unseen
See the wings don't make you fly and the crown don't make you king
thats called
“were about to get our asses reamed for tampering so we might as well get someone”
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asses ream you
by Rose Colored Goggles on Dec 9, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Really?
You do realize Soviet Russia has not existed in nearly 20 years.
New signature coming...but its a process.
wow am I that old? Yackov Smirnoff dude
by Rose Colored Goggles on Dec 9, 2011 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
to be fair, the joke has moved to "In Mother Russia."
"What do you think, I just dunked my whole career?" Jordan asked Henderson after making a 3.
"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
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soviet russia is funnier
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by paddyfairview on Dec 9, 2011 2:44 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm only 21
and I know Yackov… I lol’d
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Lopez/Nene frontcourt?
I guess they can slide Lopez down to the 4 being that he’s a shooting big man and not much of a post-scorer or rebounder.
East should be improved with Nets and Knicks
but they’re not better than the Bulls, so, if I’m being consistent with my ‘who gives a shit about regular season, it’s all about Miami’ position, then I suppose I shouldn’t be too concerned.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
are people really this delusional?
here’s a tweet i saw from a knicks fan.
Jason Richardson would be a nice fit for the Knicks to back up Landry Fields
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
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by Jaina on Dec 9, 2011 2:39 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
lol, Knicks
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they're getting Chris Paul I thought
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
so did the lakers
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
ya they thought they got the good end of the Eddy Curry trade
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Wouldn't it be great if we didn't add anybody, somehow still won it all, then our Bobcats pick turned into the #1
and we just drafted a player who became a superstar SG?
Gar?
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Pax?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Good plan
I like the timing too. That player will step into his prime just in time for us to hire Tom Thibodeau’s grandson to lead Derrick Rose Jr.and the rest of the Bulls to the 2032 championship.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Dec 9, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
yes.
please. comment less. I’m begging.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
lol
ZachLowe_SI Zach Lowe
Bulls and Thunder are just like, “When’s the first game, again?”
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 2:59 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
notice he didn't mention the Heat...
:::mental image of Bron crying while Mavs get rings::::
by Rose Colored Goggles on Dec 9, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
well, mainly because the Heat are...doing...things...this offseason.
Damn that Shane Battier signing to hell!
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"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
"That’s what Cleveland said," replied Jordan
Just by being in Miami
he’s in my shit list…as is everyone on that team
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
I know, I really respect his game too, and him as a person.
But damn was it weird to read his go #heat tweet.
"What do you think, I just dunked my whole career?" Jordan asked Henderson after making a 3.
"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
"That’s what Cleveland said," replied Jordan
Technically
If Curry sees any playing time they’re going to be worse.
by thatballhitdeepwayback on Dec 9, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
technically, if Curry sees any playing time
his heart’s going to explode like a basketball filled with ricotta cheese.
by Rose Colored Goggles on Dec 9, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They resigned Chalmers too...
That’s big IMO, he was easily the 4th best player on that team last year (no including UD), but Spo was too much of an idiot to start him until game 6 (lol!). He doesn’t really have a choice this year.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
just a couple of small market teams, doin what they can
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I don't really mind that we haven't made a move yet.
All the other idiot owners are filling up their teams with bad contracts while we’re just sitting back. Eventually other teams will run out of cap space leaving guys like Jason Richardson and Jamal Crawford to either sign for the MLE or re-sign with their current teams.
The other owners/gm’s seem to be in full on retard mode. Yeah, the new CBA requires you to have a minimum of 80 or 90 percent of the salary cap or whatever, but that doesn’t mean you go and give Marcus Thornton a $40 million/5 year deal to do so. It means you give some guys bigger than usual 1 year contracts to get it done, instead of screwing yourself for the future.
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yeah we dont have any bad contracts cough boozer cough
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
i really don't think boozer's contract is that bad. the bad playoffs leave that awful play in all of our minds
but he was pretty good during the regular season when he wasn’t hurt
by kpd on Dec 9, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
We need him to own Bosh
If we want to beat the Heat. If he cannot come through on that, why are we paying him?
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--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
way worse
Caron Butler for $8 mil per? for 3 years? Tayshaun got a 4 year deal for $27 mil?
At least Boozer’s still got 20 and 10 potential for a few years.
by Rose Colored Goggles on Dec 9, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
Why did the Pistons sign Tayshaun for that kind of money?
What are they going to do with Austin Daye?
they also signed another SF
Jerebko for 4 years $25 million (I guess Jerebko can play some 4 too, but he’s undersized.) after he missed all of last season with an injury.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
I think there deal is....
they absolutely refuse to let any free agents go, regardless of history, age, performance, attitude or logic. It is completely insane to me too.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They are already paying for their mistakes...
last season was a spectacular disaster and was brought about by this exact same type of behavior (Rips contract)… Dumars does not seem to be doing a very good job.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
exactly, u know, i was pissed yesterday for the bulls not maing any moves
but now when i think bout it, i think the wait and see approach may work out as some team may approach the bulls for some trade out of desperation
i.e Caron's injured ass
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I'm still really surprised the Mayo discussions have been revisited
They knew they could revisit the trade in the offseason and it’s right there in front of them. At least ask if Memphis is still dangling him. All these other options are getting snatched up. They just saw what this team is capable of against the Heat in a 7 game series. What the fuck? Is their thought process all based on that amazing Taj dunk over Wade? The guy didn’t do much besides that in the series, he’s gonna eventually get paid so …. What are they waiting for again?
by Option27 on Dec 9, 2011 3:14 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
maybe they have asked
Memphis might not be eager to trade Mayo. He is their number 1 back up on the wing and he can play some point in a pinch. Having just lost Battier, they could be reluctant to go into the season with only Xavier Henry and Sam Young as the only backups on the wings. They have Finals aspirations too.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder if their loss of Battier matters
Mayo and Gay are their only shooters
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
I live in Memphis and the general feel of letting him go is "who cares?"
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Do you live inside of FedEx arena? B/c those are the opinions that matter
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
FedEx Forum
and no. Talk shows, newspapers, and Shawn Tuohy are fine with it
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
I do
Do you need 2nd concourse eating advice?
by MilkThenClear on Dec 9, 2011 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
I live just outside of Memphis and have a friend who works for the Memphis Grizz media. And from what I’ve seen and heard, the general feeling for Mayo ranges from “Who cares what happens” to “Will someone please come get him”
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by macjack09 on Dec 9, 2011 3:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
They really have no proper PF backup to Zach though
Isn’t a proper big man on the bench more important than a SG off the bench? Unless they wanna give Randolph the Deng treatment and run him into the ground
by Option27 on Dec 9, 2011 3:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
they have darrell arthur
who, believe it or not, some people believe is as good as Taj. I know, blashemy.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
All of our discussions are centered around beating the Heat...
because they knocked us out of the ECF. In Memphis, their discussions are centered around OKC. They minimized ZBo’s impact by throwing bodies at him. As much as we need an SG, they need front-court depth. This is why it is somewhat surprising that they are not warmer to a Taj trade (if the rumors are true).
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Then give them Omer!
Bulls probably won’t pay him what he’s gonna get offered anyways.
Unless they wanna hold onto him in case they trade Joakim
by Option27 on Dec 9, 2011 3:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Never!
The Bulls will pay to extend Omer unless someone makes him a truly stupid offer. Having a defensive center coming off of the bench is a luxury that we would soon miss, more so than any kind of shooting guard.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
I trust the Bulls front office's ability to find an aging, mediocre, defensive-minded back up center a lot more than I trust their ability to find a dynamic SG to start next to Rose for the next 4-5 years.
Initially I was against it, but seeing how the market is unfolding, I’d do Omer + a pick for Mayo.
by pooriejay on Dec 9, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No way!
The market is unfolding so that mediocre bigs are given huge contracts. Omer is nearing Tyson Chandler level and Chandler just got paid big. If you want to trade Omer for an SG you can do a lot better than Mayo. You definitely would not have to throw in picks if you were interested in such a trade.
I think that you guys are seriously undervaluing Omer’s value both to this team and in the open market.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
he has only 1 more world title!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I meant for their to be more nuance in my statement...
yes, Tyson Chandler is currently the better defensive center, by far. However, in 1-2 years, I could see Omer anchoring the defense for a contending team. He made a few rookie mistakes in the Heat series (falling for Bosh’s pump-fakes), but he plays exemplary team defense. He clogs the lane better than Noah through superior placement. How many times did you see an opponents guard drive the lane just to run smack into 7 foot Asik with his arms straight in the air?
Also, I think that Chandlers value is inflated after this championship. He found the perfect role in which to thrive. He will not be plugged into any system and have the same effect. Remember his 9 other seasons.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
I think it's more of...
Tyson Chandler just doesn’t suck balls on offense. Omer Asik is every bit the defensive presence Tyson Chandler is.
Tyson is not too good at offense either.
He is a consistent 8ppg give or take a point. Omer… could use a little work.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
I mean.. it's not like Tyson Chandler can CREATE offense...
but.. just for comparison’s sake of last year… TS% .697 TOV% .141 USG% 14.2….. And Omer is TS%.559 TOV% 23.8 and USG% 12.5
but.. just for comparison’s sake of last year… TS% .697 TOV% .141 USG% 14.2….. And Omer is TS%.559 TOV% 23.8 and USG% 12.5Not really a contest..
but.. just for comparison’s sake of last year… TS% .697 TOV% .141 USG% 14.2….. And Omer is TS%.559 TOV% 23.8 and USG% 12.5Not really a contest..But, if I had all day, I would actually argue Asik is a better defender than Chandler.. but I don’t have all day, oh well.
Chandler has been pretty effective in the past
his major problem has been injuries. I don’t think their is any guarantee Omer ever approaches the player Tyson is now.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
I guess we must disagree...
I loved watching Omer’s basketball IQ soar this year. His placement got better and better as the year went on. The fact that Thibs trusted him with more minutes was very telling.
I do not think that he will ever be the athlete that Chandler is, but he will be among the premier old man defenders, getting by with savvy and placement. At any rate, you can’t beat him as a center coming off of the bench.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
No, they are waiting for someone to jack the price up on Marc Gasol
Chandler’s getting almost $15 mil a year. Someone’s going to throw 17 at Gasol. At which point, Mayo is too expensive to keep.
by Ceasaleo on Dec 9, 2011 3:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
sigh...i cant believe im saying this but im warming up tothe idea VC coming to the bulls
of course, for vet min :)
Round 2
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 3:20 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
It's going to happen
Stern finally went too far
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
yeah, this is his way out
slightly modify the deal, say everyone appealed and is cool with it
…and maybe retire too.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Fingers crossed.
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If the Lakers are still getting Paul and they're still saving money, nothin will change
by Option27 on Dec 9, 2011 3:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
bet cp3 is a laker by sunday
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
2 hours
And not a hint of the Bulls doing anything major. Yeah I’m pretty sure our roster is set as it is right now and don’t expect to hear any big news other than Rose’s extension.
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by macjack09 on Dec 9, 2011 3:20 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I don't think this rapid signing period
is ripe for thoughtful acceptance of an underpaid midlevel exception.
that reads funnier than it should
I mean, it has only been 2 hours.
All that said, I’m cool with bitching until they do something instead of keeping cool until they do nothing. They’re equally valid.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
The comment was kind of meant to be sarcastic, but true at the same time.
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by macjack09 on Dec 9, 2011 3:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't want to lose Asik, but if the reports about the Bulls not wanting to spend into the tax are correct, what's going to be different next season?
The front office needs to decide now if they plan on matching an Asik offer sheet next year. If they don’t, then trade him for an SG now.
And why hasn’t Rose signed an extension yet?
hahaha
do you think Reinsdorf’s ‘player to put us over the top’ explanation is going to count for Omer Asik?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Just give the Magic Korver in a S and T for JRich, I don't even care anymore really, just get it done.
THEO!
better yet...
call Orlando. remind them about how they aren’t planning on bringing Richardson back. tell them we’d be willing to do a sign and trade with the MLE + the cost of all three of our non-gaurenteed’s. tell them if they help us out, we’ll give them a couple picks.
by kpd on Dec 9, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
I'd save next years picks...
The draft is insane. People going in the late 20’s could have been top 10 this year.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
i'm willing to take JJ Redick off there hands
his contract was designed to be very friendly to the Bulls.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 9, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
idk if this has been reported by VC has been released
anyone seeing bulls signing VC for vet min?
he shoots
so some talking head says theres a chance.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
Do what you can with this team
and find a way to get Jeremy Lamb.
Him or that kid from Florida.
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by macjack09 on Dec 9, 2011 3:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hope this helps
From DraftExpress
• Denver trades their 2008 first rounder for Charlotte’s 1st rounder (top 8 protected in 2012, top 3 protected in 2013, unprotected 2014). This pick was later conveyed to Minnesota as part of Ty Lawson draft-day deal.
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Guess things have changed
Ignore the post above…The information I posted was what DraftExpress had listed a year ago.
JeffD is correct
(top 14 protected in 2012, top 12 protected in 2013, top 10 protected in 2014, top 8 protected in 2015, unprotected in 2016)
From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz1g4nyGB2Y
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Lottery-protected in 2012
2013 – top 12 protected, 2014 – top 10 protected, 2015 – top 8 protected, 2016 – unprotected
so this basically means that whatever “top #” is protected, that if they ever pick above that number we automatically get the pick right? so we basically want them to pick in the top 8 every year until 2016?
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 3:45 PM CST up reply actions
Yup.
They don’t have much of a future (Kemba?), so things look good.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
RT @KCJHoop: DRose’s extension will be closer to $90 million than $100 million. Will raise tax concerns, particularly with Asik/Taj RFAs.
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 3:32 PM CST reply actions
im confused, why is less money going to raise tax concerns more than if it was $100 million?
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
140 characters
Ambiguity and nonsense reign supreme.
by NerdVernacular on Dec 9, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I don't care how much they pay him
do not let him leave
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Exactly why they get something for them while they still can
It’s a poor mans Chris Paul situation. I know it’s different cause they’re restricted but does anyone truly believe Jerry will match what they’re gonna get?
by Option27 on Dec 9, 2011 3:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Then why not trade Omer or Taj now?
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
its going to be taj most likely for picks
if this is true
Stuck in neutral ...
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Then work one into a package for a guy like Iggy.
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
the only Iggy I know

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Dec 9, 2011 5:04 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
this is why i think he should play in gogglea
...and we're back
by paddyfairview on Dec 9, 2011 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
neither will likely be back
let’s get something for them rather than nothing
by kpd on Dec 9, 2011 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
We are a contender...
even if they refuse to pay for these two, which is not guaranteed, we were in the ECF last year so we should not trade them. This is why Ainge is so maligned for the Perkins trade. It didn’t matter that they may be unable to afford him on the open market. They lost all hope of a championship with that trade. Would we make it to the ECF without frontcourt depth?
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Jimmy Butler said in an interview today
“I just want to wee-un”
Not joking. At all.
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
i know its been here for a while, but i missed this whole “wee-un” thing. what is this?
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
Rose and us poking fun at how he talks
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
And that quote is famous kinda like the "why not? why can't I be the MVP?" one
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
its the way Rose pronounces "win" if I'm not mistaken
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
okay thats what i thought. i thought it was something else.
rose mumbles when he talks and stuff anyway so im not surprised
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously?
As a goof on the way Rose says it, or because that’s how he naturally says it?
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
He said it how he normally talks. It was not as obvious as Rose but it was definitely there
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
GASP!
K.C Johnson @KCJHoop 1 min Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
According to source, #Bulls just pulled Keith Bogans off the practice floor. Story soon at chicagotribune.com.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 3:47 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
The Market came!
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
we got dwight howard
for keith bogans!!! YEAH!!
now come on that trade would be ridiculous
bogans, pargo, scalabrine for howrd
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
good, solid teammates like Scal are vastly underrated.
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
i know throwing in scal is a pretty radical move, but howard requires sacrifices
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
true...but how will the United Center be the United Center without chants of "Scal-A-Brine!"
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
wait this can mean one of 2 things
he’s being traded
or
COMING OUT OF THE BULLS LOCKER ROOM, JAMAL CRAWFORD
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
Pulled him off to ink his new contract.
Four years at full MLE.
We’re rolling.
by jpx7 on Dec 9, 2011 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They ain't bringing him back afterall aye?
by Option27 on Dec 9, 2011 3:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
seriously, I want details, now. right fucking now.
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
It's official. The Bulls have made the best move of the day.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
K.C Johnson @KCJHoop 1 min Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Keith Bogans off the practice floor. It is rumored David Stern is stepping down and Bogans will replace him as commissioner.
OH SHIT
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 3:53 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
damn...
Carlos Douglas Jr. @TheRealC_Los 1 min Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Very possible that Keith Bogans just hasn’t finalized his team option with the #Bulls, & they pulled him off because the deal wasn’t done.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
That doesn't make sense
Don’t they have a certain amount of time to decide? And why would they let him start practice if it needed to be finished.
yeah wtf? they can get the deal done at any time. why would they pull him from practice for that?
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
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I'm imagining it happening vaudeville style, like Gar tap danced over and then yanked him over by the neck with a cane
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Gar totally has a vaudeville face, too.
I’m fucking cracking up here.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
This sentence reminds me of that dude
Dancing in the beginning of Kung Fu Hustle lol
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
WTF
HAHA what does that mean? Did he get a 3 year extension? Assistant coaching job for life?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He's moved to the Lindsay Hunter/Pete Myers wing of the Berto center
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
slash A-drain. its a proud tradition we have here
...and we're back
by paddyfairview on Dec 9, 2011 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
Interesting Deadspin piece on a huge wrinkle in the aborted Paul deal.
Aborted Chris Paul Trade Cannot Be Appealed, Because It Was Technically The Hornets Who Backed Out
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 3:50 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
This is true as well.
Doug Thonus @dougthonus 2 mins Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Joakim’s contract extension looks pretty good in the face of Tyson/Nene’s new deals
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 3:51 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
now lets just hope he plays as well as Tyson
did last year.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
actually, he was betetr than tyson
its jsut that noah had injury problems
Not true...
Dallas got him cheap because of the unguaranteed contract of Erick Dampier and cheap ass owner of the Bobcats.
New signature coming...but its a process.
by Dionysus2.0 on Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
injuries certainly played a part
he was on his way to OKC before they said he failed the physical. Bet OKC wished they could have had a redo on that
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
I forgot about that...
But, still cheap-ass MJ traded him for cap relief.
New signature coming...but its a process.
Noah's contract never looked bad anyway
Any negativity about that deal was due to injury paranoia
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
They're only 4 year deals
bigs gonna get paid
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
no, you should rejoice that a team that doesn't care how much it pays
slightly overpaid for a guy that they desperately need. I just popped up a bottle of cham-pagne!
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
here is
Rose/Hinrich
Reddick/Brewer
Deng/J.Howard/Butler
Boozer/Gibson
Noah/Asik
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
The new twitter pisses me off too, just saying.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 3:52 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Mine's the same
I’ve been wondering what people were complaining about
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
Sure hope Doug's gut is right on this one.
dougthonus Doug Thonus
Gut reaction: Means trade or mle signing. RT @KCJHoop: According to source, #Bulls just pulled Keith Bogans off the practice floor.
22 seconds ago
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 3:55 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
man ur quick
i got the tweet, did a quick glance if anyone posted it, and wham u post it….quick
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Just reflexes.
Nature of my job.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 9, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
If we're signing head i'll get mad
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
YOU DONT LIKE GETTING HEAD?
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
See what you did there
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
agreed
TRADE TRADE TRADE
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
if they sign someone
they prob will decline his option, no? thus he’s not part of the team.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
right so it has to be a trade righ
accept his option then trade his ass….i hear the 3way cp3 trade is going back in….what if its going to be a 4 way, with martin showing up here…HELL YEA
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
they'd trade him before the option needs to be picked up
then the new team will decline the option
then he can re-sign with the BULLS YES
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I thought I heard they got rid of that?
No more trading guys and signing back with that team after release?
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
You forgot the Keith Bogans rule.
It’s the exception that allows Bogans to always return to the Bulls.
by jpx7 on Dec 9, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
I think it still works as it wouldn't be cutting the guy, just declining the option
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
you're correct
there is a difference, though I’m not sure it matters in this context. I think it’s something regarding the date someone can be cut
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
but if he's not part of the team
he’d need to be pulled from practice too, lol
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Have they officially took his option yet?
Maybe they signed someone and are declining his option.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
so we’re trading HIM or cutting HIM?
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
Or just HIM?
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
he was never signed to begin with
so….my only thought is trading him
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
he has an option, it could just be picking up that option
maybe he has to take a drug test or get his badge re-activated or something
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
maybe he just hasn't finished his TPS reports
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 9, 2011 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
someones been watching office space
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
he's gonna have to come in on saturday....
and while he’s at it, may as well come in sunday tooooo….
by grabmesomeBOOZ on Dec 9, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
in that sense why do it now
like why not wait till AFTER practice or just call his agent and be like yo, were picking up the option…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
BOGANS FOR HOWARD
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
my slightly modified trade machine
that takes no cba rules into account says….trade is a success and salaries work
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
If they're only trading Bogans...
The return is gonna suck.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
quick
find out who exactly is at bulls camp right now…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Random naming starts now
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
KC with bucket of cold water in 3... 2...
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:00 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
HE FUCKING STARTED THE FIRE
there should be a journalistic rule, you dont put out your own fires….
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 9, 2011 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
this is my favorite irrational/angry comment of the day, LOL
...and we're back
by paddyfairview on Dec 9, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I know this is crazy...
But if the talent on this team is effectively the limit because they won’t go into the tax, an honest organization would start dumping salaries. The Bulls only shot at a title with the current philosophy is to luck into enough cheap talent to win a championship. They are too good to get any high draft picks, which means they need to clear out players to open up money and get picks. Noah and Deng certainly could probably be moved for expirings and picks. Taj and Omer would net you picks….I don’t know what to do about Boozer (amnesty?).
Like I said, it’s crazy, but that plan has a better chance of getting Rose a championship in his career than sitting around waiting for some miracle cheap all-star 2 guard to fall in their lap.
On the other hand, maybe they will be willing to go into the tax…though KC really seems to always imply they won’t.
What does this mean
KCJHoop K.C Johnson
According to source: Bogans is on non-guaranteed contract above league minimum and #Bulls exploring other options.
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by HawkeyeBoiler on Dec 9, 2011 4:01 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
STOP...BEING...KRYPTIC!!
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
by T.Moore on Dec 9, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
of all the wishy-washy statements...
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
no shit, KC
I was always saying that option won’t be getting picked up as they could just re-sign him to the minimum (or, ya know, DONT)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wtf?
Exploring other options? What does that mean!!! Signing an MLE? Trading him? Making him into the new team mascot? WHAT DAMN YOU!?
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
i friedells voice
i hate kc’s journalism…what the fuck man, its like the brewer/korver combo of journalism….
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
i hate friedells voice
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
This one made me laugh
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by macjack09 on Dec 9, 2011 4:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This is probably not the time to say this...
but I actually kind’ve like Bogans.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
You're right...
It’s not the time
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
by Dils on Dec 9, 2011 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I'll feel bad for him, no doubt...
He didn’t put himself in the position to suck, and it’s not like he wasn’t trying/hustling. He never complained once, and from what I’ve heard, all the guys liked him.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
I hear you
but Bogans is making money to start as a SG in the league when he should possibly be in the D-league. Hell feel sorry for Brandon Roy, not Keith Bogans.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
He was ok on defense
but yeah…not the time
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
I heard he came, like, 90 minutes late.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
then he left too
"Shit just got real" - anorexorcist.
by illwill on Dec 9, 2011 4:05 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
You mean Pau
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
No.
Paul showed up at NO practice, Pau showed up to LA practice. Odom stayed home.
Thought Paul wont show up
And Odom looks like a baby back bitch now
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
ahhh, while fatass khloe was calming odom down
lol, good luck with that
kc's lost his damn mind
wants to move rose to the 2 spot and sign billups at point…what?!
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
WTF?
If it was CP3…fine. But Billups would be the one playing the 2 if he came.
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
Link?
I know he’s dumb but I need a link to believe that he’s THAT dumb.
tweet
doug thonus replied to it, and i dont feel like posting it
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
I dont think KC said that
Thonus responded to someone asking KC that if we talking about the same tweet
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by HawkeyeBoiler on Dec 9, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
ah yes
thanks i didnt notice that until u mentioned it
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
I'd be cool with that
Label them whatever you want but a Rose-Billups backcourt would be great. Rose would still handle the ball the most.
Pat Riley is the devil.
c'mon man, link
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
it was a tweet
hawkeyeboiler corrected me, it wasnt kc, it was a guy asking kc (or telling kc) if the bulls (that the bulls) should do that…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
So we're not
Rolling with the Keeeeeith?!
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
No fucking clue. We have no details so I'm pulling my fucking hair out over it.
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
Poopsworld, but still:
AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
The Chicago Bulls remain very interested in Jamal Crawford. They’ve been in touch with him today and are still looking into sign-and-trade.
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:09 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
I'll take what I can get
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
This is great, but don't give up Ronnie!
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
Yeah, I'd be fine with it if they didn't give anything up...
But please, no Vince Carter. I honestly think I’d rather have Bogans.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
OH SHIT!!! XD
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
he was supposedly on 670am this morning
and said that Taj+Brewer is an option, but I hadn’t heard it so I’m not sure he was just speculating on pieces or if the Bulls would consider that (they wouldn’t)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
Brewer and a non charlotte future 1st is fine
but Brewer and Taj is a bit much.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
KC Twitter and Rotoword SIGN IN TRADE for Bogans
“The Bulls just pulled Keith Bogans off the practice court, which is one good indication that a deal is imminent. Crawford would give the Bulls the exact punch they had been lacking at SG, but check back soon for updates.”
by Jesse07 on Dec 9, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm fine as long as it's Bogans and not much else
Who else is under contract?
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
Jamal Crawford for Bogans?
I’m not a fan of Crawford but that would be robbery lol
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by macjack09 on Dec 9, 2011 4:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
how is it robbery
Hawks have no leverage.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
i dont see how salaries are matching
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
guys use your heads because Rotoworld didn't
all KC said was the ‘pulled off the court’. Rotoworld made up the shit about sign-and-trade, and Crawford.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yea how the hell do you sign and trade
bogans for jamal crawford…..thats…impossible unless bogans is being signed to an 8 million dollar contract, in which case…wtf?
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
what is really holding up the free agency signing
Jamal and Paxson are negotiating the headband rule as we speak.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
THEN TAKE LESS!!!
Alex Kennedy @AlexKennedyNBA 1 min Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Crawford wants to land in Chicago. If the Bulls can’t trade for him, he’ll likely sign with the Pacers, Hornets, Nets or Timberwolves.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 4:12 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
No way he'll want to go to those basketball shitholes
Especially indy
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Losers, losers, cheating losers, and the fucking timberwolves
Crawford, the Bulls are your only option
"Bud Light."
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by Brigade17 on Dec 9, 2011 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
What would the pacers want with him?
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
GIve them a great one two scoring punch
with Jamal and Beaker
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Okay rip just got bought out
now thats news
ill get the tweet up in a minute
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
here
freeppistons Freep Pistons
Source: Rip Hamilton has been waived by the Pistons. Will be bought out. Not an amnesty transaction.
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 9, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Good news? He'd be nice....right? I don't even know any more
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
by DRose01 on Dec 9, 2011 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
better than vince carter, and possibly for less
since hes being bought out
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
The ever-evolving new tagline:
We’re rolling with … I don’t even know any more.
by jpx7 on Dec 9, 2011 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
How the hell are we going to pick the tagline anyway?
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
this is nice
i wonder why Billups doesn’t insist on being bought out, give up a couple of million but get to go where you want to play.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
I think you answered your own question
give up a couple million
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Dec 9, 2011 4:22 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
NICE, no amnesty means no secondary waivers
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
bought out!
that is very good news for the Bulls. They should be all over that shiiite
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
yea
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
also should mention
the tweet was rt by woj
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
i hate him
but at the vet min, i could accept this move lol
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
im jaina
and i approve of this cheap signing
lol
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 9, 2011 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
fuck yes!
anything that keeps vince carter out of a bulls uniform… lol
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
by Jaina on Dec 9, 2011 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
You really like Rip more than VC...
I don’t have a high opinion of Rip, but if we get him I hope he proves me wrong.
neither do i
but honestly, i just looked up their numbers for last season… they’re pretty similar.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Alex Kennedy
Crawford wants to land in Chicago. If the Bulls can’t trade for him, he’ll likely sign with the Pacers, Hornets, Nets or Timberwolves.
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 4:12 PM CST reply actions
Reading the last couple comments is like watching Stalonne's career in a line graph
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
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by The90sBullsRevival on Dec 9, 2011 4:14 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
what would a S&T for crawford constitute? bogans and what? please not taj or omer… we can get more for them
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 4:15 PM CST reply actions
Prolly a 2nd or future 1st as well
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
id give up taj
bogans, taj, korver would get it done and is a nice package i believe….id like to keep brewer, i do value his defense and feel crawford replaces korvers offense
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
I want RIP more than Richardson/Crawford/Carter
by Option27 on Dec 9, 2011 4:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Really? Why?
Not that I hate Rip or anything, just curious
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
He is about as efficient as Crawford with similar usage
But Rip can defend better. That’s why I’d rather have Rip.
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
He's a winner, he plays solid defense and he can run all around the court tiring the shit outta Wades legs
by Option27 on Dec 9, 2011 4:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Still an odd fit
Doesn’t have the range, and can’t create for shit. Plus him and Deng are fairly similar, no?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
What's wrong with having someone similar to Lu?
by Option27 on Dec 9, 2011 4:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
i giess there isn't technically, but is it good to have so many players whose gamess are reliant on cutting
when the strength of your superstar pg is driving to the basket (and kicking it out)?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
Well, he can hit the 3 ball too.
And part of that is on Thibs to create a system that will work. An upgrade is an upgrade.
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
He shot ~38% from 3pt range last year
averaged 14 pts and picked up a few assists per game. Yes he is a bit similar to Deng in the “jack of all trades, master of none” playing style, but he hustles and honestly, is that a bad thing? he is long and athletic on D…I like the match
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by Brigade17 on Dec 9, 2011 4:24 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I agree with this sentiment
He is at least as good a defender as Bogans and a better scorer. It’s a low risk play, but it would make sense.
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
more complete than Crawford
a guy that basically replaces Bogans right away. With Crawford, his defense is so bad, you’d have to use him as a sixth man.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
I'd like Hamilton and Crawford, actually.
I think it was always preferable to play Crawford from the bench, regardless of what other wing (or wings) was acquired.
oh yeah.
Rose/Watson
Rip/Crawford/Korver
Deng/Brewer/Butler
Boozer/Gibson/Scal
Noah/Asik
wow thats pretty good.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 9, 2011 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I assume we'd lose Brewer to the hawks...
Unless you meant Rasual.
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by Dionysus2.0 on Dec 9, 2011 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ah, true.
that means butler would get serious burn.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
Even without Brewer, it's pretty good.
You’d play Korver a bit more at SF, Butler could get some burn is he’s at all competent, and Hamilton could always slide over to SF while Crawford’s on the floor if Deng needs a breather.
over crawford
i think ur insane….over vince carter, yes, and i dont know if hes better than jrich
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
I actually prefer Crawford because he can create offense
J Rich and Crawford both suck on D. Crawford’s ability to create off the bounce gives him the edge in my mind
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by illwill on Dec 9, 2011 4:15 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Yeah, the Crawford idea has groen on me lately
Still think I prefer Richardson, but I’m cool with either
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Anyone better than VC
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
by T.Moore on Dec 9, 2011 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Rip Or jamal?
Ill take rip just for the rejuvenation factor (jamal had that with the hawks) and him being part of a chemistry team in 04
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
rip is good and is a better overall plakyer than crawford
i like the fact he can play defense and shoot the damn ball
thib's ray allen 1.5? lol
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
@ 33 yrs old?
rejuvenation
I hope I can say I did my best, achieved a lot and won a couple of world championships. - Michael Jordan, circa 1984.
why not?
happened to Ray Allen..all I want is 1-2 good years as a 3/4 option. he can do that = he hasnt reked his body..ive seen his workouts, he’s a beast
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
by Belize on Dec 9, 2011 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't say it happened with Ray Allen.
He was still pretty good those yrs in Seattle.
I hope I can say I did my best, achieved a lot and won a couple of world championships. - Michael Jordan, circa 1984.
by chicity773 on Dec 9, 2011 4:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
true..but i dont think rip has been that horrible in detroit
just looks like he doesnt care as much
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
That's a good point.
I hope I can say I did my best, achieved a lot and won a couple of world championships. - Michael Jordan, circa 1984.
THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE SAYING SO MANY THINGS I'M GONNA EXPLODE CAN WE JUST PLAY ALREADY!!!!!?????
THEO!
STOP THE WORLD I WANNA GET OFF
!!!!
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 9, 2011 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
“Rip Hamilton is on the way. Get your shit and get outta here. You have 5 minutes before I call security.” – Gar Foreman
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 9 recs
I left for a couple hours.. WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?
See the most important parts are the ones that are unseen
See the wings don't make you fly and the crown don't make you king
go away
more shit happens when you arent around :)
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 9, 2011 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Ok
1) If Crawford chooses playing on a bad team for more money, then fuck him.
1a) If the Bulls will ONLY sign and trade for him and not do MLE because of the tax, fuck the Org.
2) Call Rip Hamilton now and find out what’s going on with him and if he has any interest.
by kpd on Dec 9, 2011 4:17 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
MOOOOMMM...i dont want vince carter

I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
by Belize on Dec 9, 2011 4:18 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
lmao..im rec'd that
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
Breaking: David Stern had Keith Bogans removed from the Bulls because he doesn’t believe that much chemistry should be allowed on one team.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:19 PM CST reply actions 9 recs
ha
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
basketball reasons
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 9, 2011 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
not that anyone cares
thad young signed with 76ers
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
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Thaddeus Young is nearing agreement on a 5 year, $42 million contract to stay with the 76ers, league sources tell Y! Sports.
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by piccolomair on Dec 9, 2011 4:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
he confirmed it went down a minute later
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Seems like a relative bargain
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
about 8 million a year…?
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
yeah and hes a young player
a solid signing indeed.
yep, especially when you consider what Butler, Hill
and Thornton got. Guy needs a new agent
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Guy needs a new agent
lol, sad but true…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Yeah, either that or who knowingly gave them a hometown discount
(not that it’s his hometown, but just that he wanted to stay)
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
young is more of a sf
i like him, hes a good defender, not the ball handler iggy is but also explosive as well as a better shooter if u ask me
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
As far as the regular season goes, there's two teams that I badly wnat revenge on
The Sixers, and the Warriors. losing to both of them REALLY pissed me off for some reason
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
I want to pound on the Pacers again
for their dirty shit
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
I remember the Warriors loss
Don’t remember anything about the Sixers game. What made it particularly bad.
Pat Riley is the devil.
it was two losses, and I just got this feeling that they really thought they were better than us
Also, since we only played them 3 times, they won the season series
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
besides the clippers game, that sixers loss hurt the most
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by paddyfairview on Dec 9, 2011 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
I think the Clip game hurt the most
Losing to VDN is just demoralizing. Especially how it happened with Rose missing that final free throw to tie it.
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by macjack09 on Dec 9, 2011 4:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Lost to the Sixers twice too.
I was at one of them. (After 1st beating them by 45 points!)
I hope I can say I did my best, achieved a lot and won a couple of world championships. - Michael Jordan, circa 1984.
Yeah, they spanked us the second time,and got us good at home the third time
Derrick played like shit against them too
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
Yup.
Like 10 TO’s. That’s the game I was at. We had a long home winning streak at the time too.
I hope I can say I did my best, achieved a lot and won a couple of world championships. - Michael Jordan, circa 1984.
carlos boozer on jamal crawford:
GIMME DAT SHIT
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 4:25 PM CST reply actions
I want to know what the fuck is going on.
Bogans, why must you be the cause of so much strife? Couldn’t you just hit your open threes?
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
rotoworld updates very slowly though
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
u dont say?
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
"Hawks and Bulls considering sign and trade "
“The Bulls just pulled Keith Bogans off the practice court, and it seems he’ll be involved in whatever deal they make to shore up their SG spot. Crawford would give the Bulls the exact punch they had been lacking at SG, but check back soon for updates. "
i kinda meant
if you scroll above, there have been like 100 comments within the last five minutes about this very subject…and more coming below…the rotoworld tweets are kinda….bad sources, they are also including some speculation based off nothing in their tweets….
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 9, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
rotoworld takes a long time to update, like they put something like this out there and dont respond until an hour later
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
im assuming they dont have beat reporters out there
they have people who are doing what we are doing essentially, hell they might not even have a person per team, so it could be like 10 guys trying to keep up with the entire league….its better just to get tweets from guys like woj and kc johnson.
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
yeah.
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, it exploded when Bogans was pulled off the floor, imagine if they get someone?
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
I'm just glad I found this site
Always on arrowheadpride and my dumbass just realized theres probably a basketball site for the Bulls.
nah its cool
im being an ass, i just had some cofee(okay a lot of coffee) and then as soon as i got on blogabull bogans got pulled….and its been hectic since
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Because they can trade Bogans salary...
That is not guaranteed…along with Brewer?!?
New signature coming...but its a process.
Sounds pretty similar to Rip moreso than the other two...
Carlos Douglas Jr. @TheRealC_Los 44 sec Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
#Bulls Top Priority as far as finding a 2-Guard was one that was a Ball handler, shooter that spaces floor, & could run offense at times.
THEO!
More than a year later, and I'm still trying to find out who this guy is
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Me too, but he seems pretty reliable...
Although at times it seems he just echoes what everyone else says, or says the obvious, but twists it to make it seem like he’s not.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
damn it why cant we just get afflalo dammit we never get anything
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 4:32 PM CST reply actions
ok, i think executions may have to come back
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 4:33 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
never get anything? umm...
Norm Van Lier, Ron Harper, Steve Kerr, Kirk Hinrich, Ben Gordon, Reggie Theus, BJ Armstrong, Tom Boerwinkle, Dennis Rodman, Luol Deng, Carlos Boozer, Ben Wallace, Artis Gilmore, Horace Grant, Robert Parish, Toni Kukoc, Scottie Pippen, Elton Brand, Chet Walker, Phil Jackson, Red Kerr, Tom Thibodeau, Bob Love, Jerry Sloan, Charles Oakley, Bill Cartwright, Derrick Rose and Michael Jordan disagree with you.
by kpd on Dec 9, 2011 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
thunder resigned daquan cook
2 years, 7.5 million….i like cook
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
There has been so much action on this blog the past two days.
It’s been fun as hell
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by Brigade17 on Dec 9, 2011 4:37 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
it literally was dead here about 20 minutes ago
and then bogans getting pulled created this eruption in tweets and comments, regarding bulls and the nba…it seems to be slowing down again
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
the Bogans non-news explosion was hilarious
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
if only you had pop ups and ads throughout the site
you could have made like 1000 dollars in those 5 minutes of craziness…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
no! this threads already a nightmare for mobile
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by paddyfairview on Dec 9, 2011 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
theres no way in hell
that even the fastest smartphone on the fastest network could refresh fast enough to keep up with this site when actual bulls news goes down.
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
hopefully we'll test that out shortly
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by paddyfairview on Dec 9, 2011 4:45 PM CST up reply actions
god speed
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
as in
your phone is gonna have to be on some godspeed internet network in order to keep up
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
let it go
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 9, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
awwwww
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Totally disagree
Symbolically, Keith Bogans getting pulled from the floor was a Bulls version of tearing down the Berlin Wall
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
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You weren't around for BlogABron.
That. Shit. Was. Crazy.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
i think when he said he was going to miami an entire thread filled up in a minute
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
The entire week before and week after it was crazy too.
I remember when they signed Booz, Brewer, Korver, Reddick to an offer sheet, even Bogans!
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
The insane summer of 2010.
When the Bulls were trying to get LeBron.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
and all that’s been said about the bulls is that bogans was pulled off the floor
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
Keith, we have some bad news...your mother is dead.
Boy would you guys feel like A-holes.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 9, 2011 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
pff fuck that..i'd be like, he's practice for the funeral, cut his ass
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by paddyfairview on Dec 9, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
*missing practice goddamn this thread
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by paddyfairview on Dec 9, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
have you seen some of the comments around here
i think people actually feel esteemed to be A-holes on this site
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
trade a player trade a player
…. (thinks for a second)
Not named rose….not named rose…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
In other news...apparently Boozer has hair
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
how funny would it be if Boozer grew a Ben Wallace fro
by kpd on Dec 9, 2011 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
and Luol has a mohawk
Man, they put your face on money and everything falls apart
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I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
by Belize on Dec 9, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
i literally just found that LOL
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by paddyfairview on Dec 9, 2011 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
its a tattoo supposedly
apparently fake tattoo hair is all the rage in Miami where Boozer lives…watch for Lebron to regain his hairline
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by The90sBullsRevival on Dec 9, 2011 4:48 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
yes yes..
but its not enough….more sg power…MORE SG POWER!!!!
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
is Rip still good at defense?
if he is, Brewer sign and trade for Crawford. If he isn’t….Brewer sign and trade for Crawford and pick up Bogans option.
by kpd on Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
honestly, hes better than J Rich and his defense is still on par...
with the likes of Ronnie Brewer
sign rip then sign and trade brewer for crawford. boom.
by The90sBullsRevival on Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd do that in a heartbeat with Rip on the team
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
i've heard likely before...
lets see it happen
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
Not excited
Any number of guys would be more appealing to me
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
i wonder if anyone on the team even notices that bogans is gone
by darksmokepuncher on Dec 9, 2011 4:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions
From KC Johnson
Jannero Pargo’s team option won’t be picked up
by kpd on Dec 9, 2011 4:52 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Im having a beer for that.
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FREE MONEY
unbelievable.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 9, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Headbands not allowed
by ALmighty1080 on Dec 9, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
john lucas
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Shit...
Bring back Pargo.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
thats it, im convinced
the bulls are getting a SG for sure now. If this and the bogans signing is at vet min or hell, if hes not even signe dat all, then 100 percent the bulls are getting a SG.
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
THEY SAID THEY’D DO ANYTHING TO MAKE THIS TEAM INTO A TITLE WINNER
and then they pull shit like this
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
I figured
ajchawks Michael Cunningham
RT @vgoodwill: Rip will most likely join the Bulls… #Pistons
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Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
love this move...i love it
Rip is perfect for this team. Make it happen JR, make it happen
who id michael cunningham?
i like Rip a whole lot better than Jamal Crawford. He keeps himself in Ray Allen type shape and he is a pretty good defender, not great, but good
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
I still hope they plan on getting JR/Chandler next year...
Rip won’t last forever.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
i agree, but be happy if this moves happens
excellent short term plan for the bulls and gives the chance for the bulls to EXPLORE better options than JR Smith
does the facemask come with?
Headbands not allowed
i hate that facemask
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
Does that count under the headband rule?
may be a deal breaker
by Gen on Dec 9, 2011 5:01 PM CST up reply actions
Wait, but can't he still sign for any amount?
In other words, can’t we still get outbid?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
yeah but is he really going to go to a team that is rebuilding?
no better spot for him than Chicago. Now its all about prying some cash out of JR’s wallet…
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Why not?
He chose to stay in Detroit last year rather than come to the Bulls. Shit we might’ve beat the heat
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
He didn't choose to stay in Detroit
They couldn’t agree to a contract buyout. We have no idea what they were offering or what he was willing to accept
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 5:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's a good point
I guess I’m just assuming that the buyout offer wasn’t much better than last years
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, but it sounds like he will take the buyout money and sign for less to win
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
WojYahooNBA: For Rip Hamilton, Pistons buyout costs him money over Detroit using amnesty on deal. Yet this allows him to pick his next team more easily. [via Twitter]
he chose the buyout so he could decide where he wants to play
i just don’t see a better choice than us
rot on the bench in Miami? maybe New York? idk, i hope he’d choose us
by kpd on Dec 9, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
if by the end of the night Rose is extended and Rip is a Bull
tip my hat to the front office.
Rose-Watson
Hamilton-Brewer
Deng-Korver
Boozer-Gibson
Noah-Asik
and we also have Jimmy Butler
i really wouldn’t feel like we needed a whole lot else. bring back Thomas for insurance, sign a practice body from the d-league and we’re good to go
we still need points off the bench
Said it before but i’d sign nate robinson
by The90sBullsRevival on Dec 9, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
well, they've got Luther Head in camp
can he cut and shoot threes?
by kpd on Dec 9, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
head was always know to be a 3 pt sharpshooter
he wouldnt be a bad option backing up Rose
if this happens, you gotta give a hand to JR
and being PATIENT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. This is great, this what true contenders do: play smart and make the right moves when other TEAMS BUST THEIR MONEY ON PLAYERS LIKE BUTLER, lmao.
We let the market come to us.
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
by Brigade17 on Dec 9, 2011 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Woj
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The Bulls and Rip Hamilton have long been an inevitable pairing. Boston will reach out, too.
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i'd hope he wouldn't choose Boston's bench over starting for us at SG
Boston doesn’t miraculously have more cap space than us do they?
by kpd on Dec 9, 2011 5:01 PM CST up reply actions
Inevitable? Really?
Apparent;y Woj was the only one that knew it was inevitable, and he’s choosing to tell people only after Rip was released
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 9, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
did you not remember the deal that was in place last year?
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
I guess rip will
he’s not a good ballhandler, nor is he great at creating hi own shot but its other things he does thta can make the bulls more potent on offense.
I think Rip Hamilton may be done...
He has played over 27,000 regular season minutes and another 4,800 post season minutes…
Crawford 24,000 & 700
Richardson 26,000 & 1,100
VC 33,000 & 2,200
Still prefer Crawford or JR Smith…I think both have more left in the tank.
New signature coming...but its a process.
by Dionysus2.0 on Dec 9, 2011 5:02 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Check his stats; they say otherwise
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
If J.R. Smith was an option, he'd easily be my first...
But he’s not.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 9, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
pshh, deng played 27,000 regular season minutes last season alone
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 9, 2011 5:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rip
14.1 pts, 38% from 3, 85% from the ft line, PER 15.8. Doesn’t look done to me.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 9, 2011 5:04 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
How many games did he play over the past two years?
I think about 100 of a possible 164.
New signature coming...but its a process.
He quadrupled our starting SG's ppg last year
I’ll take a flier on him
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
Alright, informal poll:
Raise your hand if you’re still kinda mad at Rip for fighting with Tyrus a couple years ago
Recovering...
well if that doesnt get you banned i dunno what will
...and we're back
by paddyfairview on Dec 9, 2011 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
lil bit...all water under the bridge if he is a Bull, though
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
he's a punk.
he falls down constantly. he’s a disgrace.
by obnoxious american on Dec 9, 2011 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
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#Bulls quiet for now, but lots of chatter on Rip Hamilton signing after Pistons buy him out. Was told they want ball-handler/scorer.
by The90sBullsRevival on Dec 9, 2011 5:03 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
He must approach us. We let the market come to us, dammit!
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
didnt this guy say Bulls was butlers first choice
yea he has no idea whats going on
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