2011 Free Agency: Caron Butler signs with Clippers
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 2:51 PM CST
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PrintOne of the reportedly more prioritized targets of the Bulls, Caron Butler, is off the table. Signed a 3yr, $24m contract with the Clippers, per David Aldridge. You'll note it's a figure that's bigger than the MLE, so the Bulls were literally outbid on this, not out-recruited. If that makes you feel better.
Lots of other signings going on today, on the eve of when signings can be official. I said I wouldn't freak until the likes of Butler or Richardson were gone, because those are the high-end UFAs: good enough to matter, and attainable as a straight signing without giving up assets. So one of those down is a pretty big hit to the Bulls plans.
Elsewhere:
- Somewhat interesting (not really) option Shannon Brown to the Suns
- Hilariously, the Pistons re-signed Tayshaun Prince
- More hilariously, Eddy Curry to the Heat
- And general twitter rumormongering stuff with Tyson Chandler and the Knicks, Chris Paul and the Lakers.
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KCJHoop K.C Johnson
Agent Raymond Brothers confirms CButler will sign w/ Clipps. @daldridgetnt first reported. Reported today #Bulls letting market come to them
CHEMISTRY!
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
The FO is showing grit
Fighting through the other teams signing the best players.
by cubbybear on Dec 8, 2011 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
New tagline: Rollin' with Keith, or Letting the Tagline Come to Us?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 2:53 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Love the "Letting the Tagline Come to Us"
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
I have a feeling this is going to be the most pessimistic thread since the last thread
by K_yle33 on Dec 8, 2011 2:54 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Still not even close to the most pessimistic thread ever
BaB is on a cloud compared to the dark days of Jay Williams meets Willow tree.
Mike Dunleavy to Milwaukee, 2 years, $7.5 million.
Restraint from a small-market team!
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 8, 2011 2:54 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
At first I thought this was a joke
because I forgot Mike Dunleavy was a real player. Silly me.
It's Mike Dunleavy, Jr.
If it’s Mike Dunleavy Sr., then the market HAS gone insane!
by cubbybear on Dec 8, 2011 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
But, at this point
What is Mike Dunleavy, Sr. up to these days? Sure, he’s old, but can play shooting guard?
Richardson is SO not coming here
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
..and everybody thinks im an asshole cuz i knew we'd be down to few candidates in a matter of days
whatever, all i know is that the whole “baby bulls/we are not worth spending alot of money on players” days is over…we got the ECF last year..62 wins..blah blah blah..go for broke and see what happens after.
WE FUCKING DESERVE IT ATLEAST..i aint buying shyt from the nba store or bulls.com till we make a play/trade..something..show me you give a flying fuck about improving
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
by Belize on Dec 8, 2011 2:55 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
me too.
i knew the wait and see approach they always use (and just damn used again) would bite them in their not-do-anything ass.
if Jason Richardson isn’t signed by tonight, it’s a failure. If they aren’t able to afford Atlanta’s demands for Crawford then they sure as hell arent going to pay for Iggy or Roy. Richardson, it seems, is literally the only option left other than keeping the Chemistry 15 intact for a second consecutive year of Keith Bogans starts. Screw the ORG. It’s time to stop waiting, it’s time to get banner #7. The Battier went to a rival, the Hawks want most of our bench for Crawford, and Butler is playing for Vinny Del Negro. I understand it’s cold in Chicago but we can do better than this.
Sign Jason Richardson right now and be done with it. Jeez.
by kpd on Dec 8, 2011 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
You sittin in Four Peaks?
He took his what to where?!
no i moved from phx to the bay area man
but i did go back for some hopsquatch the other day lol
I lay puzzled as I backtrack to earlier times/Nothing's equivalent, to the Bogans state of mind
screw it
trade for Crawford, hes the only one who wants to be here.
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
We won't trade Ronnie Brewer.
Can you believe that?
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
where are you getting that from btw
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
McGraw tweeted it earlier.
Said the Brewer trade was wishful thinking coming out of ATL.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
McGraw
@McGrawDHBulls
Mike McGraw
On rumored Jamal sign&trade, probably wishful thinking from Hawks/Jamal camp. Crawford is a Bulls candidate, but not trading Brewer for him.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
ah
thats…a shame…trade korver then….
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Korver and Watson and Bulls #1 for Crawford
Oh, and get Kirk to give us a love letter.
by cubbybear on Dec 8, 2011 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think they're waiting for JRich
If he comes for the MLE, then they see Brewer as more expendable, and trade him for Crawford.
seriously, let the market come to us?????
i hate you gar paxdorf
Headbands not allowed
yeah. what the hell does this even mean? Is Gar Paxdorf sitting in a room with a bunch of phones wondering why they aren't ringing?
JUST DO SOMETHING! Something that isn’t starting Keith Bogans for another season.
by kpd on Dec 8, 2011 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
Well if it makes anyone feel better...
RoyceWebb Royce Webb, ESPN NBA
Hey Clips: Last time Caron Butler had above-average PER was at age 28. Before knee injury. Mavs won title w/out him. He’s almost 32 now.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
by Dils on Dec 8, 2011 2:56 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
His history of not finishing seasons
always scared me
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
by T.Moore on Dec 8, 2011 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
he's never played 82 games.
and yet… 8 million a year…
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
yep he keeps this in his wallet
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah...
Bill Simmons mentioned this is one of his recent columns: there are a lot of teams with cap room right now. I’m not really surprised that a player like Butler got this much cash.
Pat Riley is the devil.
This doesn't bother me
He’s old, so he’ll never get better. He’s got a severe injury history (worse than Boozer), so you can’t rely on him. He’s a SF, so he’s not a perfect fit. And he took more money than the Bulls can offer.
by kozzer on Dec 8, 2011 2:58 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
so, he sucks and "And he took more money than the Bulls can offer."
aka he may have just set most of the market out of reach…no not concerning at all
JRich was always going to be able to get more than the MLE
So this doesn’t change anything in that regard. Plus, the Bulls FO could be working on a sign and trade for something we aren’t even thinking of right now. We just don’t know.
All I’m saying is that getting all freaked out because an injury-prone guy who wouldn’t have fit anyway because another team paid him more than the Bulls possibly could have is jumping the gun a bit.
by kozzer on Dec 8, 2011 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Butler never really made that much sense to me
but he wanted to be here until he found out just how much he’d be leaving on the table. Theres still plenty of moves for the Org to make, but theres still plenty of ways for them to say we looked at everything and nothing made sense for us at this time…again.
I'm not necessarily mad the Bulls lost out on Butler.
It’s just that they’re purposely dragging their feet.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly
It’s been their pattern whenever these moments come up. Then they’ll end up settling for Josh Howard or something at the end of the day.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
by Dils on Dec 8, 2011 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
The Bulls pattern tends to be doing things quietly until it's done
and then us fans are basically blind-sided from it. Of course, the exception being last summer. But to wit: The Hinrich trade, the Tyrus trade, the Salmons trade, etc. The Bulls FO is usually pretty tight-lipped (just as Reinsdorf’s checkbook is tight-lidded). But I hope that by the end of the weekend the Bulls will have used their MLE, made a trade, or both.
I hope you're right
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
by Dils on Dec 8, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Me too! :)
But for as much crap as we fans give the FO, they do a pretty good job considering the restraints they’re under.
sure. It's just nice to have options
The more the better. Butler was one, now he’s gone, there’s reason to be miffed.
This isn’t crazy. I mean, Belize and his picturegasm is insane.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
No but at the same time how much longer can we keep saying "No Bulls fault!"
Great teams don’t just sit back and let the market dictate everything. And we don’t have the cap space to be patient.
Last summer was different because they failed on Plan A, but they still had tons of money to execute a fantastic Plan B. That’s not going to happen with this franchise for a long time now.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 8, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
No bulls fault!!!
Lol
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
by J Theory on Dec 8, 2011 3:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I just don't think that this crop of FA's is the kind of small-potatoes thing the FO is looking at
JRich is OK, I guess, and I definitely think they should use the full MLE, but I just think they’re cooking something else up.
And there's no "fault" to assign, because letting Butler go elsewhere is the right decision
because letting Butler go elsewhere is the right decision
There is no fault
because we didnt even have a choice lol
Let's hope they've got something good.
For all we know, JR Smith is drinking brandy with Gar Paxdorf and the Chinese owner getting $3M!
put a goddamn title on this stuff
light em up
by docks on Dec 8, 2011 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, this doesn't matter at all really
I didn’t even understand the Bulls interest. But you have to wonder if it’s indicative of a larger issue
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know what this means. Bulls in the mix for Nene?
SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Wiz free agent SF Josh Howard is attracted to signing with team DEN FA C Nene signs with, source tells Y! SA, Chi, Den, NO, Utah, NJ in mix
1 minute ago
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
The only way the Bulls sign Nene is if they unload Noah or Booz,
and neither of those are gonna happen. I assume that if the Bulls are talking to him they’re trying to persuade him that winning here is more important than playing with his boy Nene.
And what is it about Nene that Josh Howard wants to play alongside him?
Seems like an unusual demand/preference.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
He didn't want to be the only one not requesting a specific guy to play with
All the cool kids play with their friends.
light em up
by docks on Dec 8, 2011 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
And why would any team in their right mind feel compelled to make a huge move, like a Nene signing
just to bring an injured bum in the fold.
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
is this like ordering fast food
can we substitute the Josh Howard for a side of Arron Afflalo?
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
The only reason to sign Nene is if they plan on trading Gibson or Asik for Crawford
by kpd on Dec 8, 2011 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm not sure how the Bulls afford Nene, or why they need him.
I think there’s some miscommunication in the tweet from Spears.
I think the implication is that those teams in the end are in the mix for Howard, not Nene
Pat Riley is the devil.
Don't know why everyone is so surprised
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by macjack09 on Dec 8, 2011 3:00 PM CST via mobile reply actions
this sucks, we are in the mix for every1 yet we are going after no one
Headbands not allowed
We couldn't match this offer with out a S&T
Paying Butler $20+mil and giving up Watson or Korver isn’t going after someone…its actively making the team worse. The Bulls don’t have the ammo to get one of their top targets to sign on the dotted line and stop talking to other teams. Especially not until they can officially make a S&T. (not that they will do that necessarily)
well their entire "let the market come to us" point of view
tells me that they arent pursuing anyone, rather seems like they are just waiting for whats left
Headbands not allowed
JR Smith
and everyone favorite Wilson Chandler
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
Eddy Curry going to Miami will make him the new KING. King of the Onion Rings.
Thibs got his team a chemistry set for Christmas
by livesinnoahsbasement on Dec 8, 2011 3:06 PM CST reply actions
Woj
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Hornets cooling on idea of Boston needing involvement of 3rd team, considering package of Rajon Rondo, Jeff Green and picks for Chris Paul.
1 minute ago
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
What the hell are picks going to do for New Orleans?
Boston’s gonna picking LATE in the draft year in and year out if they get their hands on CP3.
Maybe they're banking on a short and unpredictable season
affecting an old Boston team
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
still disgusted
giving up just Rondo and Green for Paul is highway robbery.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
If Paul isn't going to sign an extension anywhere but NY
then this is probably the best that the Hornets can get for him. A good Rondo contract, an average wing and picks for a short-term rental. It’s better than a straight-up deal for Gasol.
Teams who can offer a better deal are not going to do it because Paul will not sign an extension anywhere else.
I will never doubt the Chairman again.
well it would mean the boston 3s window
closes with the expiration of Paul’s contract.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
i cannot believe this is what the hornets are going to settle for. id much rather have that minny pick from the clips
daldridgetnt David Aldridge
We know Lakers would get CP3. We know Gasol would go to HOU. And NOH? Source: Scola, Martin, Dragic, 1st/2nd round picks. But not done deal.
Should've traded for Melo.
boston ftw?
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Hornets cooling on idea of Boston needing involvement of 3rd team, considering package of Rajon Rondo, Jeff Green and picks for Chris Paul.
Should've traded for Melo.
by sin on Dec 8, 2011 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
They'd have to sign him before trading him, right?
I think Boston’s a sinking ship, and Paul knows this well. The Lakers are sinking too, so without assurances from Dwight and ORL management, I don’t see how Paul does well.
Nope
CP3 has stated outright that he will NOT be signing any extension before he becomes a UFA. Same position DWill has. And Dwight Howard. They will be able to get 2 more years and more money if they let the contracts completely expire.
yup
unless they mean that ol ‘under the table promise of an extension’ extension
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
Well, sure, but it's one thing to
SAY you’re going to re-sign, and quite another to sign the contract.
fuck this bullshit. lakers getting paul for gasol only? of course the stern-controlled team wants the lakers good again
and watch, i bet then they deal bynum for howard
fuck this company
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 8, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
Lakers adv has been size though
I guess if Bynum’s ever healthy then this is scary, but when does that happen.
CP3, and old (and right now overrated, though top 20 player Kobe), Artest, Odom, and a 50 game season from Bynum doesn’t scare me.
Now if they could make another move to nab Stoudemire (since he’s crazily perhaps on board, or the ridiculous DHO rumour, then maybe….but I think there good assets are too old for Howard, and I don’t know how STAT could get there esp with the Knicks close to getting Chandler (if that’s not already a done deal).
Man been mos since I’ve even checked BaB…
The kid's out of this world. He's got Allen Iverson speed, Jason Kidd's vision, Chauncey Billups' shooting ability and Michael Jordan's athleticism. How do you guard that? - Pacers coach Frank Vogel.
And if we end up giving away Omer Asik for Jamal Crawford
when you could have gotten Oj Mayo for Asik I will be shocked.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
Mayo a better defender
plus he’s still young, so he still has room to grow, this is a guy people thought would be a mutiple x allstar, he may still develop into that.
by Slick Ric on Dec 8, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm not sure Mayo's that much better of a defender
And yes, he has room to grow, but that doesn’t mean he will.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Dec 8, 2011 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Look at their stats
“Last year”: http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=crawfja01&y1=2011&p2=mayooj01&y2=2011 Crawford was clearly better (14.2 PER vs. 12.6 PER). The year before that, which was each player’s best season to date, Crawford was also clearly better (18.4 PER vs. 14.6 PER). They’re both crummy defenders. Mayo’s probably a bit closer to average, but Crawford’s also more athletic, so I think he has higher potential there if Thibs can get him to actually give a shit.
Pat Riley is the devil.
Should we get Billups?
If he’s about to get axed, do you think he would take less money for a contender? I believe he can fill the sg spot nicely.
He's about to be amnestied.
Which means he’ll be auctioned to teams with cap space. Bulls don’t have cap space.
The Bulls can get an amnestied player if nobody bids on that player in the auction process. I don’t know what the limits are after that though.
I’d take Billups for 5 mil in a heartbeat.
by JockstrapNoah on Dec 8, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
i heard that chauncey is fucking pissed off and if a team picks him up he doesnt want to go to he wont play or something of the like
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 8, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
that's be bullshit
pissed as he is, teams should put in a claim, then hold him hostage for 3 months, then trade him. Why let an asset go just because he wants to pick his team? Billups can pick his own team by giving up his salary.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
So, Michael Redd?
Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Cha-pu
by chapuforyou on Dec 8, 2011 3:11 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Bro, I know you wanna play with him but your rollin' with me
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
by Belize on Dec 8, 2011 3:11 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
More on Chandler.
alanhahn Alan Hahn
Multiple sources tell Newsday that Tyson Chandler will be a Knick. Billups and Turiaf involved to clear cap space. #Knicks #fb
3 minutes ago
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
"He doesn't shoot pull-up threes on the break."
“Benched.”
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Beautiful.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
Enter Miami
@ChrisMannixSI
With Tyson Chandler on the verge of signing w/NY, Miami is looking into ways of acquiring Chauncey Billups, league sources tell SI.
by bryield on Dec 8, 2011 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Battier and Billups?
FUCK EVERYTHING.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Don't forget the 'icing on the cake'
Eddy Curry
by bryield on Dec 8, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
eddy curry would eat the icing tho
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
by Belize on Dec 8, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
and the candles
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 8, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
and that stick thingy that holds the cake together
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
by Belize on Dec 8, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
and the plastic knife
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
And the table
48 minutes of intensity...RIP NVL.
by Lt.Dan on Dec 8, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
then "show something" to the houseowner
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I have never seen a run of green like that.
Maybe I just don’t visit often enough.
Is Gary Crowton fired yet?
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
am i the only one happy with all these 'moves' miami is making
billups, curry, and battier…only one of them is a good role player..
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
bigshot billups
is now only a name, at least thats what i believe…he wasnt that frightening when he was with team usa..
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
not anymore
Rose stole his powers, or at least thats what Vogel said in the playoffs last year.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ah vogel
that cowherd looking dipshit of a coach
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
but he ran the offense
that’s all they need..i mean, he’s better than chamers and he did decent last yr…
also, they can put him @ the 2 and have bron run the point
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
basically
i thought he did pretty good with the knicks last yr and he had to take those shots he took..he’s not as clutch and his mr big shot title is baloni..but on the heat? scares me
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
I dunno...
I mean, I think it’d be a good pickup for Miami, but at the same time I think Chalmers is a better floor player than Billups is these days. Billups’ rep is better at basketball now than Billups himself is.
BaB is going to be amazing this season.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 8, 2011 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
How can they?
Aren’t they using most of their MLE on Battier and Curry? I guess if Billups signs for the vet minimum…
Can anyone here teach me more about Hockey?
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I've found it works best if you let hockey come to you
Is Gary Crowton fired yet?
Is Jerry Angelo fired yet?
I agree....
But if they move STAT out for CP3 then less so.
I know CP3 better individually than STAT, but STAT/Chandler is basically a front court wet dream, perfect for D’Antoni-ball to boot (at least until CHandler has another injury plagued post contract year—I always liked Tyson, but still).
The kid's out of this world. He's got Allen Iverson speed, Jason Kidd's vision, Chauncey Billups' shooting ability and Michael Jordan's athleticism. How do you guard that? - Pacers coach Frank Vogel.
i wish i didnt follow the bulls for so long in my life
or i wouldnt let this stuff get to me
:::::::sigh:::::::
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
I followed the bulls for a long time
And im always just “meh” with everything…Because that’s who I am….Unless it’s with NY, Rondo, Kobe and Miami…fuck those guys
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Considering the universal panning of Butler signing on Twitter
we may have lucked out.
by The90sBullsRevival on Dec 8, 2011 3:15 PM CST reply actions
"May" have?
Bulls dodged a bullet, if they were even seriously considering using the MLE on him in the first place, which I doubt.
The Clippers pursuit of a SF is very similar to our pursuit of a SG
That was their glaring hole. Only they had a little more ammunition to get it done. Everyone had Tayshaun Prince going there, but since he re-signed with Detroit, that made it clearer who they had to go and get (and overpay for). Dumb signing, but understandable. (Plus, no 3 year deal can ever be all THAT bad)
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
Their glaring hole? They have a lottery pick who plays SF.
Why waste money now when you could maybe see if Aminu turns into something decent? Instead they blew cash on Butler and will likely lose DeAndre Jordan to another team. Pretty typical Clippers move.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 8, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, I fogot about Aminu. Very good point
To be clear, I don’t like the move, but I can somewhat understand
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
It will make a lot more sense if they send out Aminu as part of a Paul or Howard trade
but thats not likely and I still wouldn’t like the signing at that much $$$
well Jordan is an RFA
and they will move Kaman. The Clips will probably hope a contender tries to squeeze him under the cap and match. Then dump Kaman somewhere.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
With half of the Nuggets roster in China
nobody’s talking about JR Smith anymore.
this pleases me.
light em up
Yfbb, are you sure we can't curse? Cause I'm right now I'm feeling like adding something to the original idea
BlogaBull: We are rolling with fucking Bogans
by JustAnotherFan on Dec 8, 2011 3:15 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
This keeps getting better
ZachLowe_SI Zach Lowe
Billups wants to play in Miami in part b/c, if amnestied, it would mean he’s earning two salaries at once.
by Option27 on Dec 8, 2011 3:19 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Fuck Billips too
You got your one ring you earned you douche
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
And look what happened to him.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
The Bulls will feel like Stringer in Season 4.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 8, 2011 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
Let Omar come to us
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And now with Curry
the Heat are Prop Joe
by NerdVernacular on Dec 8, 2011 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
do it. just fucking do it. let the heat get every fucking decent player available, and let the lakers get CP3 and/or howard
miami/LA finals every year
i dont give a flying fuck
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 8, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
hey how did you know i go to virginia tech
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 8, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
was that over the line
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 8, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
yes it was
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
how long have u been saving that one
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
random find. I don't hold on to pics
mister bookmarked darth vader webpage.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
I did no such thing!!
(deletes bookmark)
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
your only real crime
was not being funny
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Dec 8, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
It's not just that it's way over the line
It’s also not funny in the slightest.
Pat Riley is the devil.
I thought that the point of the whole amnesty thing
is that they can’t earn two salaries at once. If they get Chauncey…they are a hell of a lot scarier. However, he’s got to get through the amnesty process and there is no way he won’t have bidders.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 8, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
It wouldn't be 2 salaries
the “new” team would pay a portion of the salary, and the “old” team would pay the rest. Same salary for CBill, tho.
by kozzer on Dec 8, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, but his agent is currently doing the "DO NOT FUCKING CLAIM CHAUNCEY" tour as we speak
Doubtful it’ll work. You have t think at least one competing (like the Bulls) would ensure it doesn’t happen
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
no.
its 2 parts. During the auction, a team like Indiana can pick up say, 6 million of Billups 14 million tab, then the Knick’s pay other 8 million. If he clears auction, he can sign with Miami for the a minimum (the bare minimum which is 400-500k) and the Knicks pay the full 14 million
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
that would be the ideal Miami situation
he better not end up clearing waivers
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
indeed, like I said above it's be ludicrous for teams to be 'scared' from a minimum bid
If Billups wants to pick his team, he can be a free agent by giving up his salary. I’m sure the Knicks would ablige.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought the new rules were that was different
That the amnesty money is reduced from the former team if he’s picked up.
Regardless, I’d bet that one of the under the cap teams would take Billups for the cheap, and if he sulked, force something from Miami for him.
The kid's out of this world. He's got Allen Iverson speed, Jason Kidd's vision, Chauncey Billups' shooting ability and Michael Jordan's athleticism. How do you guard that? - Pacers coach Frank Vogel.
I guess I'm fine with this
Caron Butler is not worth 24 mil., unless they plan on using him as some sort of trade bait for their massive attempt at getting both Howard and Paul…
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That's the position Wade plays in Miami
so he’ll probably play point guard.
on offense he can more than fulfill Bogan's role
plus ball handling, running plays, letting DRose play off-ball etc.
by JockstrapNoah on Dec 8, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Whoa, forgot about that guy
he’s so gonna be a Bulls. Buy your jerseys now folks
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
LIAR!
Chicago Bulls Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf on Wednesday reiterated through a team spokesman that he would give strong consideration to incurring the luxury tax if the player acquisition gave the team a reasonable chance to win a championship.
.......what the tits
Thibs got his team a chemistry set for Christmas
by livesinnoahsbasement on Dec 8, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
A statement just vague enough to drive a Bulls fan insane
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
honestly though
that blank would have never been filled in with Caron Butler
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
see, that worries me
Bulls should try to improve, there’s likely no smoking gun over-the-top acquisition, at least not one we KNOW is the over-the-top acquisition
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Gibson and a 1st for Mayo
may not being a smoking gun, but its something.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
Bulls have a bunch of fluff contracts
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
"Good thing we're not acquiring anyone"
light em up
by docks on Dec 8, 2011 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Too bad
Paxson doesn’t have the stones to take a risk on a move that would put us in the tax. The Heat, Lakers, Knicks, Celtics are all trying to play big boy basketball. Paxson is trying not to make a mistake.
by tomas21 on Dec 8, 2011 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
he could choke him?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
reinsdorf only wears clip-on ties
much cheaper, and less likely to be used as a weapon
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Interesting, so you're thiking they might be forced into making the move they should've made from the jump
I like it
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
haha
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
Also, the Sox are now in rebuilding mode...
Maybe Jerry will ‘take a risk’ now that his number 1 team will be down for a while.
by bleigh82 on Dec 8, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
no risk with Adam Dunn's nasty contract there.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
oh by-the-by
nick young is still on the market….though hes looking for money…sign and trade?
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
guessing the market for the RFA guys takes a little while to heat up
once the top UFAs start to go and def not before tomorrow when teams can mention contract offers in trade negotiations
the only way I can see this working out for us is our cohesion and chemistry as a team being much stronger than other contenders.
If these teams get these players, Our only chance to win would be this year.
his fat hitler ass is useless now.
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Dec 8, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Yo, he can still dunk
Id like to see Bogans do that
McGraw
McGrawDHBulls Mike McGraw
Doubt if the Bulls ever made a firm offer to Caron Butler, who will join Clippers for 3 yrs, $24 million, according to reports.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
well he tweeted he was super excited about meeting with the Bulls because i'm working out in Chicago
then tweeted after a simple Im off to visit the Nets. So I’m not surprised the firm offer wasn’t there.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
I don't understand why they wouldn't just make an offer
the worse that can happen is he can turn it down. I don’t understand the whole dance – this really isn’t a traditional negotiation. The Bulls have a fix amount they are willing to spend. Are you willing to take it? No, okay, moving on. I don’t get why the Bulls need to conduct interviews and meetings – we all know what they can offer and who is available.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
well its kind of disingenuous to give Butler a firm offer
and then retract it when Jrich or Crawford come calling taking the MLE. Butler would have signed it right away, and the other options would be gone.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
things could be a lot worse than bringing back kirk on a 1 year deal
but that wont happen til next year, book your season tickets now!!!
REALLY!!!!
oh…ur being sarcastic…
:(
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
nonsense....bogans
Headbands not allowed
by ALmighty1080 on Dec 8, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They'll get someone
but I think the main acquisition will be a sign-and-trade, and then depth at MLE (someone like Grant Hill or his ilk).
that'd be lovely
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The more I think about it, the more I think that our two-headed monster at SG makes a sign and trade more attractive.
I mean, Korver doesn’t buy much except in a sign and trade, the team basically only has to give a better contract to their FA. It’s a good deal for everyone, and then we don’t have to move another player.
also, I'm holding out some hope that the lux tax fear will actually make them throw in Asik or Taj
to get a better player.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Not to mention that there might be teams with enough cap space this summer to sign Asik and leave us with nothing. May as well get something while he’s worth something.
right, better than holding on to him
then him signing somewhere else, then KC telling us the Bulls never wanted him at that price anyway.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
I predict the bulls don't do shit and i hate them forever
just pretend you really want to win, just for once!
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Dec 8, 2011 3:37 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
isnt that exactly what theyve been doing....pretending
if they ever actually gave a damn we wouldnt have been rolling with keith in last years playoffs…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
who exactly will we offer a contract to KC?
KCJHoop K.C Johnson
Gotta believe CButler’s deal will drive JRich above midlevel. Whether he’d sign for less—and whether #Bulls offer it—remains to be seen.
by The90sBullsRevival on Dec 8, 2011 3:37 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
If the Bulls haven't offered, they are stupid.
He’s worth it, and hardly will become unmovable. If nothing else, he makes Brewer moveable.
Never finished a season
Kinda a red flag for me…But thats just me
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
How were they considered the leader to get him if they didn't make an offer?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
And we're now a punch line
treykerby Taco Trey Kerby
The Bulls are doing a great job of doing nothing on their way to becoming everyone’s favorite championship sorta contender.
by Option27 on Dec 8, 2011 3:38 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
But at least Derrick Rose is a real man!
At least until he signs with LA in 5 years.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 8, 2011 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Derrick, why did you leave Chicago for the Lakers?
“Dwight and I just wanna wee-un.”
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Let us bask in the glory of Derrick Rose till he decides to leave by age 26 like everyone else.
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by macjack09 on Dec 8, 2011 3:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Not quite a punchline yet. He's just another scorned Bulls fan
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
JBJ being the voice of reason...
How long did it take you to get over the shitstorm that are the Miami heat…(fuck them)
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
ha, oh I'm not over it yet
Just happy/surprised that there’s actually basketball this year
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
there you go!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not Miami
they won’t have room unless they sign him for vet minimum. And what’s the point of Battier if you’re trying to get Hill?
I dont put anything past miami.
it seems like they just trying to collect players for the hell of it.
Well, then I think Hill would have to take the vet min
and be 8th or 9th guy, because he’s not playing ahead of LBJ or Battier or Wade
don't bring logic into this
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
WTF?
I saw on the twitter tube that Miami invented a time machine and just signed an in-his-prime Bill Russel and Magic Johnson.
And it’s all Gar Paxdorf’s fault! He wouldn’t spend on a better flux capacitor!!! >:^(
by kozzer on Dec 8, 2011 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Hahah Magic and Russell
They’re twigs nowadays. They can have them. Give us Wilt and Shawn Kemp in their primes.
From KC's article on Butler
The Bulls believe, with multiple targets still available, they will be able to sign an upgrade at shooting guard at their price. They have had talks with Jamal Crawford, Jason Richardson, Josh Howard, Grant Hill and would have interest in Vince Carter as a backup option if he, as expected, gets waived by the Phoenix Suns.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
Josh howard
….NO WAY
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
His last non-injury season
he had a 17 PER. He’s not bad. Better than Bogans.
by JockstrapNoah on Dec 8, 2011 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
yeah but that was 3 years ago.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
But what can a healthy Josh Howard do?
nobody knows. He’s not going to get 8 mil.
by JockstrapNoah on Dec 8, 2011 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
is "better than Bogans" really the standard? We already got Jimmy Butler.
by kpd on Dec 8, 2011 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
better than Bogans is the standard.
by JockstrapNoah on Dec 8, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
a standard that
the Org thinks quite a few NBA players are below.
Bogans talent + 1.7million = starting 2 guard.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
howard is done, hill is 39, carter is done
by The90sBullsRevival on Dec 8, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
JRich won't take the MLE, and the Bulls won't trade Brewer for Crawford.
Vince it is!
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I guess we just have to hope that he REALLY wants to play for a contender
because it’s hard to find a good team (or at least a true title contender) that will offer him more than we can. Unless I’m overlooking a team. Will he finish his career for a garbage team if it means another 10-12 million bucks?
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
Vinsanity it is
Can’t wait until March when he and Boozer form the “Ya know, this guy Thibs really is working us too hard” faction of the locker room
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
Please, he'll be injured by February.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 8, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
vince wasnt bad on defense with orlando
he just didnt play with heart, agressiveness and we all know about his poor shot selection.
listen, they're interested in everyone until they sign elsewhere
then they weren’t really interested.
This works with potential dates too, y’all.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
now that i think about it, isnt this what they do all the time
trade deadlines and offseasons come and go, and when the bulls swing and miss with big names and grab those small fishies, they always come out and say “it was all apart of the plan” sad part is, every time they do it…we continue to jump aboard the crazy train
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
AND NEVER WANTED THEM ANYWAY
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
EXACTLY!
(High fives blow-up doll)
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
In other worlds
Bulls will pick up the trash that is left by other teams
by JustAnotherFan on Dec 8, 2011 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
then that means were hoping too much for too many things
health, role, etc..
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
Three players talked about being amnestied
Roy, Gordon, Billups. Any of those 3 would make the Bulls a much better team.
by JockstrapNoah on Dec 8, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions
Just a heads up guys: Letting your lunch come to you DOES NOT work
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 3:45 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
OT
Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent forward Mike Dunleavy will sign a two year, $7.5 million deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, league source tells Y! Sports. Twitter
Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent forward Mike Dunleavy will sign a two year, $7.5 million deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, league source tells Y! Sports. Twitter
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
uggg..hmmm
Marc J. Spears: Wiz free agent SF Josh Howard is attracted to signing with team DEN FA C Nene signs with, source tells Y! SA, Chi, Den, NO, Utah, NJ in mix Twitter
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
There goes the division
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
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by J Theory on Dec 8, 2011 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
The Bulls need to stop beating around the bush
He wants us, we can’t afford anyone else. Stop being a tease Reinsdorf, lets get it on!
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 3:53 PM CST reply actions
i think he has to wait until tomorrow
or 4 days after or something. But his agent knows what is up, he knows what is up, the Bulls know what is up. They don’t have to wait until he is officially released. I doubt the Suns put in a tampering charge.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
The Nets offered Butler 4 years for $30 million!
RicBucher Ric Bucher
Caron Butler taking LAC’s 3yrs, $24m over NJ’s 4yr, $30m has to be a franchise landmark of sorts. Clips usually don’t get nod. #PowerofBlake
1 minute ago
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 3:53 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
He would have left $10M on table for the Bulls?
Wow, that’s hard to pass up. let’s hope that JRich doesn’t like Jersey either.
Deron Williams is gonna Usain Bolt out of that place the day the season ends
I’d be lying if I said I won’t enjoy seeing it. Avery Johnson is an incredible douche
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 3:54 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
maybe he thinks he can get one more contract if he signs for three years...
who the fuck knows. also, his agent said:
“He’s very excited to be with Blake,” Brothers said. “And very excited to be with a young upcoming team he believes he can help win a championship.”
that’s great and all but… i really don’t believe they can win a championship…
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
If Vinny Del Negro wins a championship before Thibs
I’m driving into the lake for sure.
by JockstrapNoah on Dec 8, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm going to let the lake come to me.
But yea: that’s apocalyptic notion if I’ve ever heard one.
by jpx7 on Dec 8, 2011 6:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He is an idiot if he thinks they'll come close
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Butler was probably just using the Bulls for leverage
although its kind of weird he left that extra year on the table. The Nets dodged another self inflicted wound.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
He probably thinks he can sign more than a 1/6 deal at the end of his Clips deal.
Because his agent is a f***ing liar. Either that or he’ll ring chase at that point.
On the bright side
Eddy Curry is currently eating his way through Miami like the Nothing from the Neverending Story.
by NerdVernacular on Dec 8, 2011 3:54 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
The nothing would be usefull...
when the lakers or heat win the chapionship. So i wont care about basketball any more
by Gen on Dec 8, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
*turns up Rollin by Jackie chain and Cudi*
Im in a Bogans state of mind now
it will owrk, it must work
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
I know that indifference isn't really a response
And usually works to the benefit of your enemies (see the Miami Heat being active, and us, well, not). But as a response to Caron Butler and that contract, I’d rather hold my breath for JR Smith. I’m not suggesting that this is the position of the org (because I don’t think it is) but, in light of Smith (Chandler too) Butler can bugger off.
by Dogfishhead on Dec 8, 2011 3:58 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Everybody calm down!
Are people really freaking out b/c we didn’t get Caron Butler? The dude is an injury waiting to happen — especially during a condensed season. Hitting the panic button over this signing in premature and flat out ridiculous.
No, we aren't freak out that the Bulls didn't get Butler
We are sort of freak out that the Bulls management are taking a back seat while watching the free agency rolling and other title contender teams getting better by the hour.
by ajayflying23 on Dec 8, 2011 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So the Heat get Battier...
What else has happened? Everything else is speculation. As of about a few hours ago it was reported the Bulls were reported as front-runners for Butler. In reality, they were never in the discussion. Don’t believe everything reported.
The other title contending teams...
have done nothing of consequence! The Heat have signed Shane Battier. That’s it. The fact that they are rumored to be interested in Billups, who they have no real chance of picking up, will just add to their track record of disloyalty to the vets who sign with them. They will not be getting many more Shane Battiers after they have thrown three veteran PG’s under the truck!
In other news, the Mavs, who actually won the title, will lose Chandler. They are definitely out of contention as a result.
The Celtics are proposing foolish trades that no one would accept and are coming off like the NBA’s town slut!
The Knicks are not now, nor will they ever be, title contenders.
The Lakers admittedly have me a bit scared but that Houston trade sounds too stupid to be true.
OKC/Memphis…nothing!
Those are all of the title contenders. We’re fine.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 8, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
nene & howard
umm..ok, wait. Really?
by #1humblebot on Dec 8, 2011 4:01 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Damnit!
Just because bad franchises are throwing way to much money at a 32 year old with two bum knees does not mean that the Bulls need to make a stupid move! In 2 months, the Clippers will be universally reviled for doing this. Every time they are one move away from becoming a contending team, people will point out the idiotic Caron Butler contract where they threw a three year contract at a player that went down by February!
Relax! The Bulls will make a move. I am guessing Jamal/JRich + Hill. This will be accomplished via sign and trade/full MLE + baby MLE. JRich needs to take a pay cut but I am not without hope that he may think that it is worth it. I am also not ruling out a bolder move involving a trade for Iggy/Mayo/?. This will cost us front court depth.
Just because piss poor GM’s are behaving like fools does not mean that our front office needs to! When this is all over, you will thank God that you are not a Clipper/Nets/Detroit fan living with a capricious and idiotic general manager.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 8, 2011 4:05 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Blogabull: Relax? No such thing!
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
by T.Moore on Dec 8, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"Relax! The Bulls will make a move. "
that’s not so much different than the supposedly crazy “The Bulls better make a move”
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Piss poor GM's behaving like fools just made Richardson more expensive than the MLE
And Atlanta wants Asik+Brewer+Korver+Charlotte pick for Crawford. And Hill is an SF, not an SG. And why the fuck do we have any interest in Nene?
by kpd on Dec 8, 2011 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
The Bulls seem to be casting for both an SF and and SG.
Deng cannot play the kind of minutes that he has been playing in a shortened season. As such, we need backup and Jimmy Butler is untested. As such, we want Hill. We definitely need Hill to take a pay cut, but it seems a possibility.
On top of that move, we are obviously in the market for an upgrade at SG. No one is disputing this. JRich was always more expensive than an MLE. We knew that he would only join up if he would take a pay cut to get on board with a contender. You are right in pointing out that this may mean that he is leaving too much on the table as his market value is now way up. I cannot think of an action from our front office that would have prevented this. Maybe a concrete offer to JRich but it is not clear that they have not done this already.
As far as a the Crawford trade, I have yet to hear any talk of Asik / Charlotte pick being included in any of the rumors. If this is the case, link it.
That Nene thing is bizarre. I do not know where it came from or where it went.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 8, 2011 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
Some holiday cheer for my first post!!!
Something to brighten everyone’s day.
Emiliano Carchia: After less than 10 minutes of the game, Nikola Mirotic has scored already 19pts (out of 29 scored by Real Madrid): UNSTOPPABLE!
Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1fz2lZ4vx
by GhostBassKillah on Dec 8, 2011 4:08 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I did a fan post about his game tonight
which incidentally was also my first post here ever…
I'm getting too old for this shit...
Baron Davis to be amnestied
Cavs expected to use new amnesty rule on PG Baron Davis once the new CBA is official, source tells @YahooSports. Until then, BD in Cavs camp
Halfway in shape Baron Davis, though. Just to be clear.
Not, if I were two inches shorter I’d be a fucking circle Baron Davis.
by Dogfishhead on Dec 8, 2011 4:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Screw it
bet he’ll go to miami
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
by T.Moore on Dec 8, 2011 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
billups and davis?
wow, lol. good luck sharing time between those two
Miami burned their mid-level on Battier
Some team out there would offer him more money, and Baron doesn’t seem like the type to pass up more money.
Pat Riley is the devil.
Probably wouldn't clear waivers.
I hope I can say I did my best, achieved a lot and won a couple of world championships. - Michael Jordan, circa 1984.
I never wanted them to aquire our starting 2 guard through free agency. I'm all about getting him through sign and trade
Having said that, I can’t get pissed till they sign someone like Richardson/Carter and talk about how he fills up that void.
Time for drose to phone up Eric Gordon or James harden or tyreke or something
Should've traded for Melo.
by sin on Dec 8, 2011 4:20 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
First was KC now is Nick
ESPNChiBulls Nick Friedell
Bulls blog: Korver no fan of condensed schedule es.pn/rRwsvy
I couldn’t care less about Korver right now
god i hate friedell
i hate when hes on espn 1000, at least kc sounds like a cool guy to talk basketball with, friedell is….god hes annoying
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
I met Friedell at the TBJ event!
true story: when he learned who I was, his first question after ‘really?’ was ‘Man, that JuiceBoxJerry guy, he HAMMERED me…I felt like I made it’.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
does he normally talk like a douche
or is that just his on air personality?
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
he talked like he does on-air
I didn’t find it douchy in content. Maybe you’re just talking about his tone? He’s a pretty large dude so his voice is pretty deep and booming.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
its not just the deep voice
its the way he seperates his words in his sentences, he talks really ‘matter-of-factly’ and puts weird emphasis on words.
By the way, do you get an invite to the bulls media day, if they have one. I mean cant friedell hook you up?
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
HA, seriously?
I’ve actually always liked Friedell. This one definitely goes up on the wall with my other basement dwelling, lowlife commenter accomplishments
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah I don't give a care what he feels or thinks
He just needs to work on not being scared to do what he’s paid to do…Shoot.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
he’s no fan of defense either
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 8, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
if the bulls wont sign anyone
you know the bulls fans will chew out GarPax and the bulls organization. Ill tell you right now that will not happen
I know its difficult to be patient, but please, calm down and lets make the move the bulls need to make. So fuckin what the Heat got Battier, its not like they got a legit center like Dalembert or w.e. Lets them get mr. chucker billups and fatass curry. This does not make them a better team, period!
Yeah it kinda does
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
i dont see curry or billups as a threat
battier is the only problem. ill pull off my criticisms of this team until tomorrow. If no indications towards a deal at all by tomorrow, then we can def start chewing the organization off.
you say that now
till he shoots a couple of daggers in Roses face in the conference finals and then think to yourself: fuck you reinsdorf!
lol!
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If Curry gets in shape like he was for the one good year he had, and if Billups makes threes
then yes, it makes them better. hopefully neither of those things happen though.
by kpd on Dec 8, 2011 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
I'd say this
If someone made that heel shot, I’ll give them props
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
E.House
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
sounds like the kind of rule made to help LeBron
#miamiconspiracy
by JustAnotherFan on Dec 8, 2011 4:33 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Will Purdue could really take advantage of that rule
Look at these things:
by cubbybear on Dec 8, 2011 4:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
wut
AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
Source says that the Lakers and Hornets had agreed to a deal involving Chris Paul, but the Lakers reneged. “Dell [Demps] is very upset.”
The Hornets wanted Deng and the Lakers refused to trade him
or something like that.
by Rose Colored Goggles on Dec 8, 2011 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like the Bulls have given Josh Howard an offer
Free agent Josh Howard is reportedly mulling offers from the Spurs, Nets, Nuggets, Jazz, Bulls and Wizards.
ughhh
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by tyrus4prez on Dec 8, 2011 4:44 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
link
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/955/josh-howard
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
fuck this, stupidass GarPax
piece of shit FO. Honestly, these morons think Howard is the difference maker. I expected better from the bulls, but this is ridiculous.
Hell no...
Josh Howard sucks. Bright side: if he signs with Washington, does that make Nick Young a greater possibility?
I'm getting too old for this shit...
Go ANYWHERE
but here
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Let's not forget that it was reported that Butler was "mulling" an offer by the Bulls
and KC says there was no such offer. Seems to me like some reporters are very liberal with their verbiage. Could just be that the Bulls have told Howard they’re interested. I don’t see how they bring that guy in, and try to tell the fans that the team is better.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, and could also be desperate agents spreading rumors as well
to stir the pot and get their clients in the headlines.
I'm getting too old for this shit...
OT, but I think the Howard situation will play out like the Melo saga
KBergCBS
If you’re wondering why there’s been no Dwight Howard talk, source says Magic GM Otis Smith is “nowhere near” considering trade offers yet.
Yeah, plus it's complicated by the fact that the All Star game is in Orlando this year
Sounds to me like Orlando is scared to press Howard for his plans, because they’re afraid of what kind of answer they’ll get. So they’ll just gladly live in denial until a) the situation becomes too ugly to bear, and they move him for less than they could’ve gotten or b)he pulls a Lebron and just leaves them with egg on their face at the end of the season.
They’re making the same dumb mistake that the Raps and Cavs did. Denver and Utah are the blueprint for dealing with these upset stars. When the writing is on the wall, you gotta make a move
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by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd be surprised if we ever see a Deron Williams-type trade again
I can’t imagine that a team will give up young talent + lottery picks for a short-term rental. Golden St. was offered Chris Paul for Stephen Curry and they laughed in NOH’s face.
I will never doubt the Chairman again.
The only difference with Denver is that they did hold out for a while
and eventually got the Knicks to trade them the entire team for Melo. However, I think that situation was a function of the fact that Melo only wanted to go to New York.
Howard, on the other hand, may be willing to make a long-term commitment to a few teams, in which case you might be right – the quality of the offers may decline as the process drags on.
"or b)he pulls a Lebron and just leaves them with egg on their face at the end of the season."
I’m just excited to read more haranguing missives in Comic Sans.
not really
but i dont like him at all…character issues, coming off injury, never reached his ceiling and i think he sucks in the playoffs
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character issues
he was literally the only professional on that wizards team aside from kirk. Howards issues are that hes old and injury prone,
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
in dallas fam
weed issues i think + he had a couple videos where he talked reckless…cant remember just shooting from top of the head
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
Jesus, this man is a menace!
Talking recklessly! Marijuana! How has he not been banned from the league! What if this spreads, and all NBA players start talking recklessly and doing mild recreational drugs!
This man must be quarantined and removed.
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 8, 2011 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
not saying that man
just saying that with his history + his health your taking a lot of “what-if’s” into effect…i mean might as well sign tmac or get larry hughes back if you feel that way
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
Chris Paul just got traded to the Lakers for Bynum and Odom
by Option27 on Dec 8, 2011 5:04 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
wow, just wow
hahahahhahahahaha! good luck getting howard fuckers!
we noah, gibson and brewer for howard?
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 8, 2011 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
Not scared of the Lakers
The Bulls match up really well with them now, imo. Kobe is old, Paul has bad knees and Derrick kills him, and we have much deeper and better bigs now.
I'm getting too old for this shit...
Agreed. A superteam this is not.
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
"We're gonna need a bigger thread"
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 5:08 PM CST up reply actions 12 recs
first I rec'd this
but I will get another thread up
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
And I was almost done with BlogaBull today...
“I wish I knew how to quit you!”
by bryield on Dec 8, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
two big pieces to give up.
Gasol can’t play center for a full season, let alone this 66 game sprint.
by JockstrapNoah on Dec 8, 2011 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
he doesnt have to now…
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 8, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
I think it's been correct
It’s for Gasol and Odom, instead
@WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Hornets have started to inform teams that they’re sending Chris Paul to the Lakers for Bynum and Odom, league sources tell Y! Sports.
yup
at least it wasn’t for gasol like that bullshit earlier
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 8, 2011 5:06 PM CST reply actions
man, times like these makes me envy laker fans
they spend that money but they gonna stay making money through tickets, merchandise etc..
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
Correction: The proposed deal to the Lakers is Chris Paul for Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, source says.
OH GOD DAMN IT
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 8, 2011 5:08 PM CST reply actions
i dont know, but if paul signs an extension and then the lakers somehow pull bynum and a player or 2 for howard im done with the NBA
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 8, 2011 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
So much for their front line
unless they get Howard.
Paul / Kobe / World Peace / MLE PF / Bynum.
Not that impressive.
I will never doubt the Chairman again.
Still waiting on actual details
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 52 sec
Correction: The proposed deal to the Lakers is Chris Paul for Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, source says.
I will never doubt the Chairman again.
Shannon Brown signed with the Suns
In case anyone still cares about Shannon Brown. I guessing that’s not the case but whatever.
espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7332519/los-angeles-lakers-free-agent-shannon-brown-sign-phoenix-suns-sources-say
Pat Riley is the devil.
That's OK
Bulls are still better, and they’re going to be implementing a whole new offense, and the PG to run it. Bulls got continuity going for them.
whee
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
its a shame
those knees won’t last the whole season, but we get them fresh
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
Exactly, and no big man depth
Who is Bynum’s backup?
I'm getting too old for this shit...
i mean who are the Lakers' big men
now that Gasol and Odom are gone?
I'm getting too old for this shit...
I was joking by saying that Bynum's backup is pretty much the starter.
Cuz he gets injured a lot. /fail
keep in mind paul has had multiple surgeries as of late
kobe is not healthy either. if either one of them gets injured they are fucked.
worth the gamble, no?
worst case senario, is that they never get anywhere…lakers fans are happy right now and thats all that matters. Buss loves to wee-un
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
man i miss this.....bitching about the Bulls crappy mgmt
Headbands not allowed
OT but Bulls related
They’re showing real madrid on our local bball channel, and Nikola Mirotic has been really impressive so far. Scoring 22 of first 37 pts of Madrid on a variety of shots in 15minutes. Low post, up and under, pivots, fade aways, perimeter shots. And he is playing with veterans.
This guy, offensively is NBA ready. Just needs to get stronger and needs to improve Big man D. He plays the Zone well, doesn’t get lost and makes a lot of deflections because of his length
Prince
What is so hilarious about him resigning with the Pistons?
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