2011 Free Agency: Shane Battier signs with Heat, Bulls reportedly 'team to beat' for Caron Butler
by Alex Sonty on Dec 8, 2011 9:18 AM CST
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Pretty sure it's safe to say that Shane Battier will sign with Miami when teams can start signing players on Friday afternoon.
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The NBA's fifth-most efficient defense of last season just got a lot better and taller.
On top of being a great defender at 6'8", with the ability to play anywhere on the wing, he's a career 38.5% 3-point shooter with a .527 career eFG% and .559 TS%.
The Bulls met with Caron Butler on Monday, but reportedly have no more meetings set with free agents at this time. Considering they're handcuffed to offering the $5 million mid-level exemption and surgical sign-and-trades, they're forced to wait for Jason Richardson and the like of -- gulp -- Butler, Vince Carter, and.... (I'm just gonna stop there) to test their market value. [Even though the Bulls haven't made an offer, Woj is reporting the Bulls are 'the team to beat' for Butler -ed.]
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Is there something horrible about playing with Rose in Chicago
or is the FO just really quiet about everything besides Butler and Crawford?
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They probably figure defense is their strong suit already.
So the emphasis is on another ball handler/offensive threat.
It would have been nice to have Battier, but Deng is already a stout defender at that position, and Shane isn’t exactly a creator. Still, it would have been good to sign him and work Korver and Brewer into a trade for a SG.
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
Geez.
I thought Battier was a BIT more classy than that!!
by BullsFan22 on Dec 8, 2011 9:32 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
So...
This likely means that Mike Miller will be amnestied…or Battier signed with the Heat for the mini-mle. Probably the latter, which means he left money on the table to chase rings with a bunch of jack-asses.
New signature coming...but its a process.
I don't really hold it against him.
He’s been in the league 10 years. He wants a ring.
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 9:37 AM CST up reply actions
In thinking of it...
He may have signed for the veteran’s minimum. The Heat still need to sign a center, unless Joel Anthony is their guy…
I don’t hold chasing rings against anyone…that is why they play the game.
New signature coming...but its a process.
Anthony can block shots and rebound.
That’s all they need their center to do. In a pinch, they can even play Haslem at center down the stretch of games.
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 9:46 AM CST up reply actions
and Bosh bulked up!
lol, jk, lol
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Except Anthony's actually a really shitty rebounder
He’s also pretty much the worst offensive player in the NBA.
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by cubbybear on Dec 8, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
they give rings for the Eastern Conference Finals?
(sorry)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 10:15 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
rumor has it it's the latter
http://twitter.com/#!/sam_amick/status/144801080960749570
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
Yikes
It only took Battier 3mil to join the clown triumvirate? And we can’t get Crawford on a full MLE?
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by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think youre right about Miller
if they waive him, Battier can get the full MLE.
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by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
I think Battier fits the Heat very well
He is exactly the type of role-player they need.
except they still have a black hole at center
and I hope it stays that way
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I don't think they really need a point guard with Wade and Lebron
I would have Lebron run the point most of the time anyways.
Oh shiiiii
how could be forget the great Norris Cole…I’ve been waiting this whole offseason to see Cole play!
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he's the reason Miami isn't pursuing a PG
Norris Cole is going to take D.Wade’s place as the top guard on Miami.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
Its all but a given
it was fortold on a dreary night on blogabull in a post I can not find
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A source tells me they are going to use a Rony Seikaly jersey
as a place holder in the rafters for when Norris Cole eventually retires. Cole #30 is going to be right next to Marino #13.
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by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
hold up
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Eddy Curry will arrive in Miami today. He’s expected to sign with the Heat tomorrow, sources close to the situation confirm.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAH
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by ThorCo on Dec 8, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions 9 recs
hope so
all i can hope is that the heat sign some players that will just fk up there chemistry bad
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and receive payment of cheeseburgers.
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by SidM on Dec 8, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
for some reason this doesn't really bother me.
i’m not sure why..
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Did we really think the Heat wouldn't get a good player at a cheap price?
I was expecting this. I think it’s a great fit for them but was scared of something better to be honest. I’m not that pissed.
still stoked?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
I read a report saying that report wasn't correct
so there.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
i read a report saying that report about that other report not being correct
was actually correct.
actually, idk.
I read a third report saying
the first report wasn’t correct but the second report overlooked the fact that Hill is leaning towards the Knicks. So there.
You'd rather the Bulls sign an older, more ouchy, lesser shooter, and lesser defender?
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Well, I wouldn't say lesser shooter
He has shot 43.8% and 39.5% from 3 point land the past two seasons. Also, Hill shot 48% from the field last year, where Battier shot 42%. Finally, Hill scored 13.2 ppg where Battier scored 7.6. I see no reason why thinking Hill might be a better choice is so insane.
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i'm too lazy to look it up
but i’m pretty sure grant hill played more minutes and was a starter last season. battier was a bench role player so you can’t really compare ppg. if you switched them around maybe the numbers change?
by grabmesomeBOOZ on Dec 8, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
Battier
played 31 minutes a game and was a starter in Houston (59 games, 8.6 ppg).
I hope I can say I did my best, achieved a lot and won a couple of world championships. - Michael Jordan, circa 1984.
Battier's eFG% over the last 2 seasons: .532
Hill’s: .507
The older and ouchy risks are also far higher that Hill would have to be much more efficient (because of how his usage would go down from Phoenix) to make up for it. Not saying Hill would be a bad pickup, but compared to Battier, the potential upside doesn’t outweigh the downside, and there’s a huge swing between the two that isn’t there with Battier.
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by Alex Sonty on Dec 8, 2011 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
are the stand pat people still in favor of staning pat
or has the reality of what Miami is going to do caught up with people?
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 10:17 AM CST reply actions
who was a stand pat person?
I was anti trading Brewer for Crawford. I’d still like to sign Jason Richardson for a short contract, and leave open the possibility of JR Smith or Chandler in March.
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Exactly...
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by illwill on Dec 8, 2011 10:25 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
No, but come on...
This is a nice signing for Miami, but it’s not much of a game changer. If the Bulls get JRich or Caron Butler, that is at least as big for them as Battier is for Miami. If they get Caron Butler and then sign and trade Brewer and maybe C.J for Crawford, that combination is much bigger for them than Battier is for Miami. (I am not in love with Crawford, but if they got Butler to play some two and spell Deng at the three and Crawford to spell Rose and provide ball handling and shot creation for the second unit, that would be huge. I like Brewer a lot, but he is mainly a defensive specialist. One could keep Bogans for that role.)
by thelivingant on Dec 8, 2011 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This what I want to see
I want us to get Butler and Crawford while maintaining our front court depth. That team would scare the hell out of Miami for sure
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by illwill on Dec 8, 2011 10:33 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
The Bulls should add to their personnel assets
But trading Taj or Omer for ballstoppers isn’t an improvement. I fail to see how Young or Afflalo come here without Taj in the package. Jamal Crawford would look like a package so marginal at best, talks are almost destined to break down.
No one’s against the Bulls using their full MLE to upgrade the SG position, but looking at everyone available, the best option could end up being Butler or Vinstupidity, which doesn’t get the Bulls “caught up” with the “reality of what Miami is going to do”, if J-Rich gets more than the MLE elsewhere and Grant Hill just chooses to go elsewhere.
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by Alex Sonty on Dec 8, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Didn't you write a front page post
a couple of days ago where you said signing J-Rich was the equivalent of signing T-mac?
I agree the Bulls shouldn’t sacrifice depth. But I don’t hold Taj and Asik in the esteem you do. I definitely wouldn’t trade either for Crawford. For Afflalo (at the right price – Simmons seems to believe he will get 4years $50 mil – no way) I’d probably give up Taj.
If the Bulls can end up with Butler and Crawford without giving up Taj or Asik I’ll be happy.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
yeah, the idea that they have to trade Taj or Omer is a strawman
I would for Iguodala or Ellis (ball-stopper where the ball stops in the basket).
I’m talking myself into Butler or Richardson, and better get up to speed on that so I can be disappointed when neither sign for MLE.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
and also, Bulls may trade either guy regardless for future lux tax alleviation
so don’t get too attached.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Never said the equivalent
I never said that J-Rich for the full MLE is bad. I’m for it.
I just don’t have the illusion that, in a vacuum, signing him improves the point differential, W-L column, or likelihood to win the East in any significant manner.
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Well no single signing will
we could see a significant decrease from just…Thibs magic waning, or a wing injury (in which we had ZERO last season), shortened schedule weirdness.
I’m looking at the context of beating the Heat, to the point of just throwing up my hands and saying ‘the playoffs are different’. They just are. Aren’t they?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
*Brewer was hurt, my bad
overall outside of the staggered Boozer/Noah injuries the Bulls were pretty healthy though.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, J-Rich or whoever is more depth insurance...
Than a game-changer or a move that disrupts the fabric of the conference.
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I disagree
if J-Rich is J-Rich from Phoenix than you are talking about a guy who went for 40 twice in the playoffs, another guy capable of going for 25 on a given night and a guy who isn’t scared to take and make big shots. The Bulls need a Jason Terry type. As Bill Simmons would say, “an irrational confidence guy.”
I think getting the right guy, even if he isn’t a significant upgrade over what we already have, could make a big difference.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
I'd much prefer Richardson over Butler.
Butler has become easily my least-favorite option, if we’re talking about deploying the full MLE for him.
I amend this, I don't like Crawford
The Bulls shouldn’t use their mid level on him. I’d rather they targeted Thornton. A sign and trade for Thornton makes more sense than one for Crawford.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
No way I give up Taj or Omer for J Craw.
That there sir is a deal breaker.
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by illwill on Dec 8, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
was that ever the rumor?
I’ve yet to see anything saying that was the case. It was just Brewer.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 11:01 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
No way I trade Rose for Kris Humphries
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
what about 72 days with kim kardashian?
by grabmesomeBOOZ on Dec 8, 2011 11:06 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
only if she can't talk to the media, her family,
and frankly stays quiet around me, she sounds annoying.
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by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
yeah, when i divorce her, i take half of her ill gotten gains.
good christ, what a world.
by obnoxious american on Dec 8, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
lol good one
I would definitely trade Kim for Kourtney Kardashian though
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by illwill on Dec 8, 2011 11:52 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
You'd probably have to throw in the Mirotic rights...
by THEKILLERWHALE on Dec 8, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
what about kim
and chloe’s bad contract.
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Between Young, Afflalo, J-Rich, and Jamal...
Jamal’s likely the only sign-and-trade option where the Bulls’ bigs can be off the table.
(Of course, again, assuming J-Rich’s price goes up.)
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Isn't the market rate lowered now? If a guy with such a great reputation like Battier takes a willing pay cut
Is Richardson still in a position to demand more than the full MLE?
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 8, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Perimeter "he'll get ya' buckets" guys getting overpaid by awful teams
is up there with birth, death, and taxes.
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well its all verbal agreements
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by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
also: a heavy weight reinforcement
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Eddy Curry will arrive in Miami today. He’s expected to sign with the Heat tomorrow, sources close to the situation confirm.
it does lol
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by illwill on Dec 8, 2011 10:34 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
if is this is their answer to the C position
than yes, very good news for the Bulls. I yearn to watch eddy curry defend the pick and roll
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
OK, I'm no longer worried
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Oh, come on. This is too easy...
It’s obviously the big 4.350
by bryield on Dec 8, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
When the Heat are in Chicago
and Wade and James are given a breather, someone needs to dangle a bag of Cheetos on a fishing rod behind them. That’ll take care of them for a year or two.
by NerdVernacular on Dec 8, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
lololololololol
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Now Miami will have even less fans in the stands
because Curry will either eat them or flash them
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by ThorCo on Dec 8, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
looks like he finally got down to a slim 390
and can slip into that 10X jersey the Heat have waiting for him. Apparently there wasn’t enough time in the last season to make a custom 11X Curry jersey.
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by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Eddy Curry is trying to set something up with Jim Gray for tomorrow afternoon.
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Will he play?
It’s going to take Curry a long time to make that body fat % mark.
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yep
lets just all stand still while everyone gets scooped up. really wanted shane man…really did
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why push your hand when you dont have too?
If Bulls are the favorite for butler and pull off that Crawford swap, thats a pretty damn good set of moves
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by HawkeyeBoiler on Dec 8, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
because thats all they do
and most of time (atleast what ive seen) the players don’t want to wait and sign fast so that they can train with the team..move..etc..
not much players out there so why not go for broke if we were so close last season? Granted if we pull off a great trade, it will completely make sense, but i have no faith in seeing that happen till it happens
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I guess if he could have been had for vet min, fine
But you have a young guy in Jimmy Butler who could become a solid defender and shooter as well. Why not give him a shot and save your money for someone who actually plays SG? Can we take it easy on the complaining until we actually sign someone?
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no
Iggy and Deng are very similar, and if anything, Deng matches up better with Battier. Deng’s a better and more relentless defender who’s better at cutting and (oddly enough) 3 point shooting. Iggy’s a better ball handler and play maker. Given what Battier does, Deng’s a much better fit with this signing.
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Iggy might be more versatile
But Deng is a better fit for our team. Do you really want to take away outside shooting from this team?
It’s not like we’re going to ask Iggy to guard 2s for us against any good teams if we no longer have Deng, so that skill wouldn’t be used anyways.
(Plus Deng can guard 4s in a pinch)
no
Maybe if the Bulls signed Shane, if anything. But nobody you can sign will replace Deng’s minutes.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
health factor is my main concern
will he hold up this season with the back to back to backs?
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Battier is not an upgrade over Miller
His D isnt what it used to be, im guessing
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On priorities, I’ve said all along J-Rich is top choice. Butler, Crawford, Vince, J. Howard, Redd, back-from-China JR Smith are backup plan.
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
Howard keeps coming up.
He’s played 18, 35 and 52 games the last three seasons. In 08-09 he was posting a 17.0 PER, I wish I knew more about him.
by JockstrapNoah on Dec 8, 2011 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
this is kind of what I was hoping for. so. small yay for me.
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by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 8, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
McGraw on Butler
To answer a couple questions, why are Bulls interested in SF Caron Butler? It’s all about late-game offense. Think Dallas showed in Finals..a second clutch shooter like Jason Terry can be more help with scoring than he is a liability on defense.
I’m starting to go full meatball on this, and am obsessed with the situation of the Bulls needing a late score in playoff games. I know, it’s statistically equally important that Keith Bogans limited a jump shot from Tyreke Evans in the third quarter of some Tuesday in February. But still.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 11:32 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I think the issue is whether Caron Butler is actually a 'second clutch shooter like Jason Terry'
But, yeah, I’m going into full meat headmode as well. I just wanna wee-un.
by bryield on Dec 8, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
isn't that more of an argument for crawford
than butler?
Look
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by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
I see it that way as well.
well crawford or jrich.
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by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It's not meatheaded at all.
Watch the game; late game scoring is what separates the winners from losers. The Bulls hung with, and more often than not outplayed, the Heat in the playoffs. It was the late fourth quarter and OT that did the Bulls in. Additionally, as good as Deng is, he isn’t much of an iso player and won’t force the issue against Lebron and draw some fouls. Butler’s made a career out of good iso play, from what I’ve seen of him. He’s no superstar, but Butler would be damn good.
by dakoose on Dec 8, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
can someone bring up his iso stats?
i don’t know where to find all that.
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by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Teams that score more points late in games tend to win basketball games?
You don’t say… Hey wait a minute! If scoring late is so important, I wonder if preventing teams from scoring late by playing good defense is important… Nah that doesn’t make sense.
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by Poloplaya14 on Dec 8, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Well....the Bulls were the best defensive team in the league last year
and your defense>offense late in games didn’t bear out so well. Additionally, late in games you can also have offense/defense substitutions. I don’t subscribe to your theory.
My theory is essentially that defense wins championships
Are you really questioning that?
I don’t know if you noticed, but a big reason that the Heat were such a good team last year is that they were great defenders too (5th in the league). What Lebron did defensively against Derrick Rose was far more impactful and far more impressive than any shots he hit. Apparently, Rose shot 1 for 15 combined in games 4 and 5 when guarded by Lebron? That’s pretty astounding.
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by Poloplaya14 on Dec 8, 2011 1:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Lol, where do you get that I insinuated that defense doesn't win championships?
I’m advocating a guy that can boost our scoring a bit at the end of games, not blowing up the fucking defense. Trust me, our defense will be fine with Caron Butler, and if it means giving up a lil bit of defense for a significant boost on offense, I’m all for it.
Fair enough
I wasn’t talking about Butler specifically. I was talking more generally.
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idk, its conceptually pretty meat headed
like the old John Madden quote “the team with the highest score tends to win the game.” It’s like no way, the team that scores in the end wins the end? The non-meatheadedness (…it’s a word) would be to say that late game D is just as important, or depth would keep people fresh and thus not need a dedicated late-game scorer.
But I acknowledge the reality that we do need a late game scorer added, probably. But. It is somewhat meatheaded as a comment.
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by dantheman3k on Dec 8, 2011 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I like Butler's style of play, Stacey and Neil would call him "rugged" about 10 times a game.
But he has durability issues on a team loaded with them and historically isn’t a catch and shoot guy like Terry.
Also, the Bulls seem to describe Jamal Crawford or JR Smith, not Butler.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 8, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with you on both points.
Butler’s a good player, but he seems to be a much worse fit than either Richardson or Crawford (or Mayo or Young or Afflalo or Thorton): he’s really a SF, not a SG; he’s not a great shooter; and he seems to be particularly fragile, which is especially a concern given Deng’s injury history (I assume Butler would also be expected to back-up SF).
Late game scoring isn't important
Just ask all the Ben Gordon haters. Yes, I went there ;)
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
This tweet basically
explains the Kirk Hinrich/John Salmons vs. Ben Gordon debate in less than 100 words. Who gives a damn about height and defense of your SG or other scorer if he can’t get it done when it matters most.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
I would think
Korver and a 1st would be enough to land Craw. We still have Charlotte 1st….
Then give the MLE to either Butler or JRich
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DO IT!
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by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
No way
The Charlotte pick is worth more than throwing it at Atlanta to overpay for Crawful.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
Crawful is clever
although, I like “Captain Clank” a little more, if we are talking about Atlanta guards.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
this deng rose sandwich needs some mayo
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by Belize on Dec 8, 2011 11:49 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
• Chicago can’t afford more than a mid-level exception (starts at $5 million), making it difficult to snare Richardson (a perfect fit) unless he takes a little less than he’s worth. (And he might.) Sorry, Bulls fans … you might be Vinsanity waiting to happen. Unless Richardson takes less OR Rip Hamilton gets amnestied (a possibility).
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
by Belize on Dec 8, 2011 11:51 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
i don't think the richardson thing is so far fetched
everyone else seems to be suggesting it. he made comments about being willing to take less. he’s not going to get any more than that for a real competitor, unless he works something out with the magic i guess.
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by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
i loved him in phx honestly
and i like his game…wish he was 4-5 yrs younger tho lol
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
yeah, well
then he’s def be out of the running lol. he’s younger than crawford or butler though.
Look
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by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
uggg..maybe i readin into things, but heres what he said today
@jrich23 Today’s quote of the day: “Know your worth, and never settle for anything less” -Unknown
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have fun in New Jersey J-Rich!
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
thats the way i'd take it too.
i read somewhere Phx traded him because they knew they wouldn’t be able to afford him when his contract was up and they got Gortat out of that whole deal so it turned out pretty good.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, i just don't know
while old, this article indicates he knows he’s made his dime and wants to win. he’s gotta know he’d fit in perfectly on the bulls.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
well
Today:
Know your worth, and never settle for anything less
July:
"I probably have five or six seasons left in the NBA, so I want to go somewhere I can stay," Richardson said. "Trades are part of the NBA, but I’d like to finish off my career in one place with a chance to win a championship."
Full max MLE here, or Travis Outlaw money/contract in Jersey.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
well, sometimes worth doesn't mean only money
man…I can’t even type that with a straight face.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
str8 cash homie
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by Belize on Dec 8, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
you're not the only one
people tweeting at him asking the same question.
if i were on twitter i’d barrage him with tweets or something hahaha.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
LMAO
KC’s reply to JRICH:
Where’s part about midlevel exception? RT @jrich23: Today’s quote of day: “Know your worth, and never settle for anything less” -Unknown
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
by Jaina on Dec 8, 2011 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I like how he made the quote up himself
and attributed it to “Unknown” to look smart.
Stay classy, J-Rich.
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Per Ken Berger's Twitter account
@KBergCBS If Knicks amnesty Billups and move Turiaf, they could offer Chandler a four-year deal starting at about $14M.
If the Knicks use amnesty on Billups, could he operate as a SG? I mean, he’s better than some of the other options, right? And, I think he played in the backcourt with Rose during the FIBA World Championships.
you have to clear waivers
indy or milwaukee will put in a bid.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I know.
And, you’re right, someone will likely pick him up anyway.
I'm way more worried about Tyson Chandler in NY than Battier in MIA
by JustAnotherFan on Dec 8, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
i wouldn't worry too much
I’m guessing Chandler will want a contract before they find someone to take the great Turiaf and his $4 million contract off their hands.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
if they get chandler
aren’t they bowing out of the paul race? billups’ contract isn’t guaranteed after this season, which is the money i assume they’d use toward paul? but with the $$ chandler would require, they wouldn’t have enough?
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
maybe Paul takes the MLE
heh
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Unless they sign Chandler
and then trade Amare or Melo for Chris Paul… ooooooo
I was joking at first, but now that I think about it...
Use amnesty on Billups, sign Hill, sign Chandler, trade Melo for Paul, and that leaves the Knicks with a starting lineup of Paul-Fields-Hill-Amare-Chandler. I mean, they would have Landry Fields!
I'm not sure I want Melo at the max if I'm New Orleans
god it’d be so hilarious if it happened though
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
there is already rumors they would shop Amare
by everyone’s favorite rumor-ologist Chris Broussard.
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RT @Chris_Broussard: Don’t think NY out of CP3 hunt if it gets Chandler. TC & CP3 are close friends. Amare would likely hit trade market
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
D'Antoni won't even notice that Boozer doesn't play D
It’s genius!
by cubbybear on Dec 8, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
haha
Amare is odd man out to make room.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
sports radio here in the bay area CA
is saying Chandler will sign with NY. not sure how credible the info is but that’s what they’re saying. Warriors gave him an offer but they say he’s going to NY.
GTFO
15 per declined?
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
they said he declined and NY will amnesty billups.
i have a feeling he declined so he could hook up with CP3. that was the plan all along
Lol, what a waste.
Giving a defender like Chandler to Pringles is like giving an infant a car.
I think the Clippers would bid on him via auction
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
reply to the Knicks rumor about waiving Billups
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
Fuck Battier
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
by T.Moore on Dec 8, 2011 12:36 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
That would be nice but actually I'm taking it as a joke
KCJHoop K.C Johnson
Korver said he worked on post game. Often, teams would use big defenders on DRose, leaving PG matched on Kyle. #Bulls
well he isn't backing anyone down
so its likely just footwork and a series of head fakes and pump fakes he was working on.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
seriously, between this and Bogans being in shape
and Boozer being in shape, and Jimmy Butler existing…
I guess that’s par for training camp stories.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
“There were reports that Jimmy Butler was at the Berto today, showing a lot of grit and determination as he sat existing”
light em up
by docks on Dec 8, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
"Let's go Heat"?
Blasphemy, Battier!!!
"Bud Light."
--Chris Carpenter, asked to name his favorite pitcher
This is not good at all...
News flash: Luol Deng is good...We now return you to your regularly scheduled hating...
omg, detroit
@WojYahooNBA: Tayshaun Prince will sign a four year, $27 million deal to stay with Detroit.
BAHAHAHAHAHAH *Takes a breath* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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whuuuuuuut
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
did they get scared the Clippers
were going to snap him up?
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
Ha. That's what I wanted the Bulls to do before Bron-a-Thon...
and before any of us knew the ridiculous leap DRose was going to take last year.
at first i was a bit scared the heat got shane
but….not so much now. Hes a good player, but he doesnt get rid of any of their weakness. I bet we will see a small lineup of Chalmers, wade, battier, lebron, and bosh at times…
What are the chances the bulls make a huge move and nab someone like oj mayo
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
he has bird rights
so resigning isn’t a problem.
Chalmers/Cole is passable as a PG tandem since Bron Bron plays point forward.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
i think they will
despite the lack of trust in him, by the heat signing arroyo and bibby, chalmers showed upside last season.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
you guys keep laughing
but after this year.
tyson and curry are both going to have rings if we dont make a fucking move
Should've traded for Melo.
by sin on Dec 8, 2011 1:35 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Oh, Curry's definitely going to have rings...
probably onion rings, though.
by bryield on Dec 8, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
my goodness
Curry is a comedic gold mine.
I’m surprised there aren’t any gif’s with food in his hands in this thread. (probably because yfbb is watching)
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Guess what?
Im gonna keep on laughing
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
LARRY HUGHES INVITED TO ORLANDO TRAINING CAMP
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I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
miami couldve used him at point guard :/
Should've traded for Melo.
by sin on Dec 8, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
and with this tyson thing
i see boston or the lakers getting BOTH dwight and cp3
lakers either getting cp3/dwight this year
or boston gets cp3 and signs dwight next year
the league is over.
Should've traded for Melo.
Greg Oden taking the Qualifying Offer to stay in Portland
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/33931/oden-to-accept-blazers-offer
There should be a separate thread for all this NBA news (hint, hint).
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 1:40 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
yeah...yeah
Technically the Bulls haven’t done anything besides watch Keith Bogans do his bench press reps, so this is general NBA!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
shit just got real....GET OFF YOUR ASSES GARPAX
ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Piggybacking off @sam_amick tweet, Lakers/Rockets/Hornets discussing a deal that would send CP3 to LA, Pau to Houston.
ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Lakers pushing hard to make Pau/CP3 deal. If they can close, would offer Bynum for Dwight and whatever bad contract ORL wants to dump.
Should've traded for Melo.
by sin on Dec 8, 2011 1:41 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
what do the Hornets get from Houston/Lakers
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
likely kmart/scola + picks im guessing?
Should've traded for Melo.
by sin on Dec 8, 2011 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
i kept reading that as kmart cola
still pretty shitty deal getting only kmart and scola.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
if cp3 goes, id be happy with him in the west
i just hope the front office isnt waiting for someone to come cheap..they wont and if you find someone that will its prob b/c nobody wanted them
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
Who is Vince Carter?
i just hope the front office isnt waiting for someone to come cheap..they wont and if you find someone that will its prob b/c nobody wanted them
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
If he goes to the Lakers without them giving up Bynum, you can sure as hell bet they're getting Howard too
CP3, Kobe, World Peace, Odom and Howard.
Even if we were lucky enough to get by Miami, we’d never be able to compete with that
for like one year
before both kobe’s and paul’s knees explode.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
you could say the same for jo's foot. booz's brain.
etc etc.
Should've traded for Melo.
by sin on Dec 8, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
I feel like I live in a different universe than everyone else.
WHAT THE HELL IS SO DAMN GOOD ABOUT ANDREW BYNUM???
I think he’s fucking mediocre. He might have a ASG appearance or 2, but gimme a damn break. Bynum for Dwight?
by dakoose on Dec 8, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
it doesnt matter how good he really is
its just about being able to sell the trade to the fan base. and the “promise” of bynum reaching his super awesome 30/15 most dominant thing to ever grace the nba ceiling just might be enough to cushion the blow for the PR team down there in ORL
Should've traded for Melo.
by sin on Dec 8, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions
This is how it works
The big market teams get anything they want.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
meanwhile in the Bulls front
KCJHoop K.C Johnson
Kyle Korver is ready to compete. trib.in/tMMoeM
by JustAnotherFan on Dec 8, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
not that we wanted him. but thats another SG gone
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Shannon Brown will sign a one year, $3.5 million deal with the Suns, league sources tell Y! Sports.
Should've traded for Melo.
by sin on Dec 8, 2011 1:46 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Does anybody know what Hill is looking for?
I think he’d be a fantastic fit here. Not a great 3pt shooter, but still pretty damn good.
I would like him on the Bulls...
Especially on the cheap if amnestied.
New signature coming...but its a process.
Isn't he just another Ronnie Brewer type without much of a shot?
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 8, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
He has a good midrange game...
Good handles, rebounds well for his position…defends well. Not much of a three point shooter.
New signature coming...but its a process.
All this activity, all of these moves.
But, hey, Kyle Korver has been working on his post game.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
ah crap
were gonna go into the new season with our only new addition in caron butler…..im so not excited….
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 1:55 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
how can houston be THAT dumb
SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Names talked about in CP3 3-way are: CP to Lakers, Gasol to HOU & Kevin Martin & Luis Scola and possible picks to Hornets, source tells Y!
Should've traded for Melo.
See the hands that Battier holding up in his Twitter picture?
Yep, 10 fingers and no rings
by ajayflying23 on Dec 8, 2011 1:58 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
so
why am i just finding out about THIS??? LOL
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
by Jaina on Dec 8, 2011 2:00 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
and from that moment on boozer had decided
he would never play defense again….
the rest is history….
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 8, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
lebron/wade/bosh might be beatable
but i dont see a team built around kobe cp3 and dwight over the next few years ever losing.
Should've traded for Melo.
wont matter when you can lean on dwight for most of the season
all they have to be is healthy for the playoff run.
Should've traded for Melo.
by sin on Dec 8, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
I figured they’d wear down towards the end of the season if anything. But that team would be scary. I don’t see why anyone would want Bynum in the first place. Less risky Oden if you ask me.
by NerdVernacular on Dec 8, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
well think about it this way.
you can lose dwight for nothing.
or get a possible maybe allstar
Should've traded for Melo.
by sin on Dec 8, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
Fair enough..
But it seems like they’d get more from a team seeking a rental.
by NerdVernacular on Dec 8, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
well they are
but its easier to sell that to your fan base
Should've traded for Melo.
by sin on Dec 8, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
things are likely to change if the ball is in cp3's hands
Should've traded for Melo.
by sin on Dec 8, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
Kobe - Phil =
The great unknown.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
funny how pau was the key to the lakers championship runs
and now he may be the key to the next dynasty too
Should've traded for Melo.
Can we stop f'ing around and trade for Mayo, please?!
by Stay Chisel on Dec 8, 2011 2:07 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
no trade at this point will make us good enough to beat the lakers now
Should've traded for Melo.
by sin on Dec 8, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
i dont think ive rooted for boston this hard since they were knocking out lebron's cavs
ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Just filed to SI.com: Lakers/Rockets/Hornets talks heating up, Boston pushing harder to get back in
Should've traded for Melo.
they eliminated the cavs on my birthday
it was AWESOME
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Kevin Martin and Scola (and whatever) for CP3 is just not fair at all
Remember all the “Would you trade Rose for Paul?” discussions this place ever had.
I’m gonna explode
no way, keep CP3 in the West.
Kobe is on his last legs. CP3 has a bum knee, so does Bynum. As long as the Hornets can extract enough picks out of LA, I don’t see how they would have enough to turn around and trade for Howard too.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Something seems oddly familiar about this
and by ‘this’ I mean the pre-season and pre-trade deadline collective freak out on BlogaBull.
The NBA fucking sucks when shit like this is going on.
I hate this superteam bullshit with all these supposed superstars start crying to go and play with their little friends. Meanwhile the MVP is a man and wants it himself, no talking about playing with his buddies because he doesn’t care about this shit.
Fuck Kobe, fuck Lebron, fuck Wade, fuck Howard, fuck Melo, fuck Amare, fuck CP3, fuck Bosh, they can all kiss my ass. Rose is a motherfucking KING compared to these bitches. I hope one day they all get down on their knees and bow down to Derrick.
by dakoose on Dec 8, 2011 2:18 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
If only we could go back to the 80s when there were real men!
And ludicrously small salaries so you could have 5 HOF players on one roster.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 8, 2011 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
I should, but this shit is pissing me off.
It’s the second straight offseason of this bullshit.
I wanna play with this guy, but he wants to play with this guy. Wait…..he’s going where? I’m gonna go there too.
These guys have no willingness to shoulder the blame for their losses and instead of bettering themselves while trying to take their respective teams to the promise land, they wanna punk out and try and take the easy route to ‘chips. I don’t like it and it’s gonna be that much sweeter when DRose gets his ring(s), as he’s gonna get to be that guy who didn’t go through this bullshit.
If guys want to win a ring thats fine
But when they want to play with their friends, yeah that ticks me off too…
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Bosh actually is the only guy on the heat I kinda respect after the finals
Because he actually showed up, and wanted it more than lebitch…still don’t like his bitch flop tho
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
I'm not freaked until the UFAs go, JRich and Butler
I’m convinced the ‘rolling with Keith’ stuff is just KC sticking it in our eyes.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 8, 2011 2:18 PM CST reply actions
again..just sign SOMEBODY!!!
make a trade, something…all i vision is garpaxdorf doin this by the phone
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
SO WAIT A MINUTE
THE LAKERS WOULD GET CHRIS PAUL FOR ONLY GASOL, AND THEN DWIGHT HOWARD FOR BYNUM AND ARENAS/TURK?
IS THIS A FUCKING JOKE?
WHAT THE FUCK
"And thank you to God for making me an Atheist." - Ricky Gervais
by MichaelClutchtree on Dec 8, 2011 2:22 PM CST reply actions
yo yfbb made a thread to rage about the lakers getting CP3 and Dwight
click HERE
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
It keeps taking me to the log out page
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
by T.Moore on Dec 8, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Isn't the lockout
Suppose to stop this kind of BS?
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
the small market owners didn't read the fine print
by NerdVernacular on Dec 8, 2011 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
We might as well have 8 teams then...
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
That would be so cool, teams represent like 7 states
The Eastern Seaboard Coastliners vs. the Midwestern Wheats
light em up
who cares who we sign now
all that matters is that boston beats LA to CP3
Should've traded for Melo.
curry factor*
bigger negatives always trumps positives….im gettin mathematical wit it lol
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
All these teams getting geared up to get a ring
and we haven’t done squat yet. If we don’t get an upgrade at SG this offseason I don’t know what else to say about this organization other than they lucked into Derrick Rose.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
Caron Butler to the Clippers, 3 years 21 million
Per David Aldridge’s Twitter.
I guess we really are rolling with Keith.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 8, 2011 2:35 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
What the FUCK?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
the Grant Hill/JRich or Crawford hope is still alive!
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
Wow....
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
Not a big fan of him anyway so...meh
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
J Rich or bust?
daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Source: Caron Butler agrees to terms with Clippers. Three years, 24M.
3 minutes ago
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
Fucking hilarious.
NBA owners crying poor for two years straight, then Caron Butler gets $24 million guaranteed after a major knee injury.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 8, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
And it's Donald Sterling of all owners!
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, exactly my thoughts.
They can’t stop themselves.
by JockstrapNoah on Dec 8, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i read somewhere that clips wanted tayshaun
guess they picked up that phone after he was gone. he could offer more $$ than bulls or spurs.
honestly though… i def had my concerns about butler. not sure i wanted him.
richardson is still available. he’s the one i’ve wanted. please bulls!!!
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
yeah, i'd prefer Richardson
i may go Dakoose if/when he signs with someone else.
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
Damn
And so the bullshit continues…
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
Look at it this way.
If people are overpaying for these guys, available cap space is going to go quick. A lot of amnesties may make it to waivers
by JockstrapNoah on Dec 8, 2011 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah I hear you
and I know I’m getting close to meatball zone but this is getting frustrating. We got the MVP of the league, COY, and were in the ECF and we can’t upgrade our team but the Clippers and Lakers can? This is bullshit. This is when you go over the cap and get that piece. I’m tired of hearing about what the Bulls can’t do while everyone else is doing.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
WHY ARE WE SECOND CLASS!!!??????
"It will happen because our major-league coaching staff is more prepared than their counterparts across the field."
cuz were cheap and expect players to be that way when they all got bills as well
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
Because meathead went to China.
We’ll get him, especially after Afflalo signs a f***ing massive extension
our front office...
#TeamJUSTSIGNSOMEBODYASAP
by Belize on Dec 8, 2011 2:42 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
I don't care about losing out on Butler
But you have to wonder: If Butler just got that, would J Rich take less?
Recovering...
it's a good point
what’s the cap space situation looking like? i don’t even know anymore.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
From what I understand, onlt the MLE
They may have to get more serious about sign and trades
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
not for the bulls, but for other people
like how much can another team even offer him at this point. can’t drive up a price that isn’t there.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Oh, not really sure
Although I’ve heard several times that there’s a lot of teams with cap space, that NEED to spend it. So you’d figure there wouldn’t be a lack of suitors
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
NOPE.
Looks like they’re going to have to swallow their pride and trade Brewer for Crawford.
Either that, or they’re rolling with Keith.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
well Jaina posted some stuff about how Jrich wanted to play for a ring
but based on some other things, I think it would take the full MLE and max years.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
zzzz
im assuming thats what our front office is doing….as in…
THEY ARE SLEEPING…WAKE UP YOU CRAP HEADS, WE’RE FUCKING ROLLING WITH KEITH, AND YOU ARE LETTING US!!!
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Bulls have a habit of targeting one or two guys
and then waiting for the rush to cool down before they start looking again. The question you should be asking yourself is after the teams are done burning cash who is left.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
the pool was shallow to beging with
Jrich for the full mle is what i am looking at, and honestly….thats just not good enough. Grant hill will sign back with pheonix im sure, and i dont even want to think about vince carter. Unless the bulls make a trade, which at this point im thinking is a long shot, this will be another offseason where the bulls sat on their hands as the best free agents signed everywhere else and we settled on lesser talents and the hope that rose promising he will be better comes true…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
nothing was good enough in this free agent crop
unless you were looking for an impact center in Chandler/Gasol/Nene and if those marquee guys haven’t decided where they are going why are we worried about lower tier guys getting overpaid.
We are essentially getting pissed off at walking into a store and thinking of buying whatever so we don’t walk out out empty handed when what we wanted was a blu ray of movie and all they had were DVDs.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
What options are out there?
The good free agents are going to teams with cap space, which we don’t have. The big 2012 free agents won’t sign extensions, so we can’t trade for someone like Dwight Howard. Why panic and overpay (in players and cash) for someone like Jamal Crawford now?
I will never doubt the Chairman again.
You do realize the Bulls made their offers already?
Caron Butler chased the money, Battier (rightly) thinks the Heat have a better shot at winning a title in the near future, and we’ve yet to see what Richardson does.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 8, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
Shorter KC: "Rollin' with Keith"
KCJHoop K.C Johnson
Confirmed that CButler to Clippers. @daldridgetnt first reported. Reported earlier today #Bulls letting market come to them.
34 seconds ago
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
for the love of god.
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Oh we totally got our new tagline
“Letting the market come to us!”
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 8, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Blogabull: Letting the tagline come to us
which is what yfbb was already doing.
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 8, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
i'm fond of
“we’re rolling with Keith”
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
Bingo!
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Dec 8, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
I just got this picture in my head of Gar and Pax
sitting in their office 3 weeks from now, staring at their phone, “Aaaany second now.” “Someone’s gotta call…”
Recovering...
by Juiceboxjerry on Dec 8, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"Rolling on the keiiiiiith"
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
yeesh
“letting the market come to them” OUCH
by Basketball Smurf on Dec 8, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
I feel like every free agency period or trade dead line i'm constantly disappointed
Forman/Paxson just sit on their hands and dont do anything, if you want to be a contender you have to make moves… we didn’t win with our team last year, why would they think we could this year. WE NEED a SG, even reinsdorf said it! If we dont get a SG right now i hope forman is fired. ridiculous.
Yes, but...
this gives us flexibility moving forward.
exactly what happened when we didn't trade for Kobe or KG years ago...
we didn’t do shit with our assets
I can not believe we aren't willing to trade Ronnie Brewer
for Jamal Crawford. A piece we can supplement for a piece we NEED.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
This
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by macjack09 on Dec 8, 2011 2:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I love how Paxson will fly his ass down at 12:01 in the morning to sign
a bum like Ben Wallace at a time when the Bulls had zero chances at a ring and now that
G-d has blessed the organization with the MVP he’s sitting around doing nothing.
by dakoose on Dec 8, 2011 2:49 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
This inaction by the Bulls at the tradeline last year
and at this point now should be the biggest story in Chicago sports. Not the Bears or the Cubs but the Bulls front office. Unbelievable. They better get Richardson or somebody.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
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