Rodney Stuckey?

by Lucas S on Dec 6, 2011 8:25 PM CST

First fanpost here so sorry if it's a little off but one player I haven't heard much talk about in relation to the Bulls this offseason has been Rodney Stuckey. He's currently a restricted free agent so the Pistons could match any potential offer for him but they just drafted Brandon Knight and already have a back court full of BK, Will Bynum, Ben Gordon, and Rip Hamilton (who they may not amnesty after all). I know Stuckey has always been a point guard but he's listed at 6'5'' 205 lbs so he definitely has 2-guard size (Arron Afflalo is listed at 6'5'' 215 lbs for comparisons sake).

Pros: He can obviously handle the ball well as he has been Detroit's starting point guard for a while now and could take some pressure off of Derrick in that area. He ranked in the top 25 in the league in free throw percentage shooting 86.6 percent and got to the line about 5.4 times per game. His PER last year was 18.46 which is pretty darn good for a missing championship piece.

Cons: Career 26.6 percent from the 3-point line and hit 28.9 percent of his threes last year. Obviously the Bulls want a two-guard who can hit the three consistently but this is really the only knock I can find on Stuckey's game. Maybe if he wasn't controlling the ball all of the time and taking contested threes his percentage would go up? Probably not significantly but it could creep up to around 31 percent. Although he played limited time at sg for the Pistons last year, his defensive PER was 15.0, completely average.

Is he attainable with a MLE offer? Not really sure about that one but I think it's worth a try. What do you guys think? (Also the preview button wasn't working so if this looks terrible my bad.

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I would do it for an MLE

Maybe Detroit doesn’t match do to the amount of guards they have, or maybe they do and use him as bait for a big. If there wasn’t that waiting period, I’d be all for it.

Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.

by hedonism bot on Dec 6, 2011 8:43 PM CST reply actions

Yea I find it hard to believe

that detroit would just let him go for 5-6 million a year when he’s pretty productive and can be used as trade bait. But if they wouldn’t match he would definitely be one of my favorite targets.

I miss Brad Miller

by Lucas S on Dec 6, 2011 10:13 PM CST up reply actions

Meh.

I dunno about Stuckey. He needs to learn to shoot, obviously. …

Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live

by Prevenge on Dec 6, 2011 10:04 PM CST reply actions

That's true

but I feel like he does everything else so well that we could still rotate him korver and brewer in a 24/12/12 type of timeshare and pick up some other 3-point threat (eddie house?) for the vet minimum

I miss Brad Miller

by Lucas S on Dec 6, 2011 10:17 PM CST up reply actions

He's not even the second best fit for us

off of his own team.

by Dogfishhead on Dec 6, 2011 10:19 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

YaoPau made arguments for Stuckey in another thread.

Here. I think Stuckey would be great if we could get him, he’d bring a lot of what I feel many of us would want in Iguodala. He’d probably be worse than Iguodala would but also more obtainable!

by Basketball on Dec 6, 2011 10:45 PM CST reply actions

Yaopau is one of my favorite commenters here.

In his defense of Stuckey, I think he took some liberties with Stuckey’s 3 point percentage.

by Dogfishhead on Dec 6, 2011 11:03 PM CST up reply actions

He didn't really

All he did was point out that Stuckey has taken relatively few 3pt attempts. He made 35% of the ones he was not moving on (spot up and iso) and made barely any of the rest. If you are only taking 88 3’s, missing 5 heaves alone makes a big big difference, let alone one’s coming off screens or in P&R situations. To be effective on the Bulls, hitting a spot up 3 with some consistency is all that’s needed, and he has shown that is a possibility. Heck, of Bulls lineups that played over 100 minutes together, the best ones in terms of overall production had Ronnie Brewer in at the 2 guard. Stuckey is a very solid defender, albeit maybe not quite as good as Ronnie, but a far superior offensive player. Stuckey would be a great fit.

"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight

by DRose01 on Dec 7, 2011 7:24 AM CST up reply actions

Am I missing something?

Stuckey’s a career 26.6% shooter from range…for his career. I don’t mean to quibble over five shots.

by Dogfishhead on Dec 7, 2011 8:21 AM CST up reply actions

he would be a great do it all player

Imagine him running the bench mob it’d be great.

by MartyMondays on Dec 7, 2011 12:38 AM CST via mobile reply actions

Exactly

Rose and Stuckey could be great playing together, but there is a benefit to having Stuckey run the bench lineup. Lineups of Stuckey-Brewer-Deng-Taj-Asik or Watson-Stuckey-Brewer-Taj-Asik would barely allow teams to score and still be reasonably effective on the offensive end.

"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight

by DRose01 on Dec 7, 2011 7:27 AM CST up reply actions

i would rather pick up gordon and use him like korver

then trade korver

Rams Bulls and Mets allllllllll day also i do love white castle

by G unit Rams on Dec 7, 2011 7:42 AM CST reply actions

why would you want to downgrade from Korver?

He is a better shooter and defender than BG7, not to mention half as expensive. Gordon would need to be amnestied for this to make any sense, and Detroit says that’s not happening, at least not yet.
I loved Gordon when he was a Bull, but we need to face the fact that he is no longer a good player. I know we need someone to handle the ball, but unless handling it off his foot what we are looking for, Gordon doesn’t really help in that department (he had the sixth-worst turnover rate for Shooting Guards last year).
He is not a starting quality 2 guard, based on his mediocre offensive production and terrible defense. Neither is Korver, of course, but I don’t see why paying twice as much for the same production is a smart move.

by dolemitejr on Dec 7, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions

I would pass on this

I would like Stuckey as a backup point guard as he’s most effective when he’s using his size and strength to barrel over opposing point guards. That becomes almost nullified as a shooting guard where he’ll undoubtedly have to rely more on his jumpshot, which isn’t very good.

by darksmokepuncher on Dec 7, 2011 7:42 AM CST reply actions

Ahh, but this is precisely where he could be useful

He will still be able to pick on smaller SGs or ones that are poor on defense. He will also be excellent when teams double team Rose. He can also work if teams try to commit a taller defender to Rose. Finally, he can run backup point guard. Why does he all of a sudden need to become a spot up shooter just because he can’t “barrel over” players? Stuckey was not an abysmal spot up shooter by any means at 0.94 PPP. He also managed to get 20% of his shot attempts in transition, which is phenomenal! A Rose-Stucky backcourt would be devastating in transition!

"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight

by DRose01 on Dec 7, 2011 8:07 AM CST up reply actions