Bulls 93, Pacers 85: Rip Hamilton dazzles in Bulls (practice) debut
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 20, 2011 10:07 PM CST
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Rip Hamilton ("Richard 'Rip' Hamilton" as officially announced) looked spectacular tonight, and helped the Bulls starters look a class above Indiana as they continually built leads throughout the game. There were some lulls when the starter sat, but the game was never in doubt, and as a viewing experience it was different to see a Bulls offense so downright pleasurable to watch.
It appears like the brief mourning period for Keith Bogans is long over, as Stacey King explicitly would mention the limitations of last year's starting SG when pointing out Rip's play tonight. And the difference in versatility was pretty stark. He may be a role player at this stage of his career, but Hamilton has the varied skills of someone who used to be much more than that. Whether it was filling the right open space on a broken play, or posting up and hitting a turnaround on a mismatched Darren Collison, or hitting Taj Gibson with a behind-the-back pass on the baseline, Rip is not yet content (nor only able) to be a statue in the corner.
Hamilton missed his last few shots, depressing his FG% down to a mere 50% to get to 13 points. But it wasn't even so much the end results of his shot as how the threat of his presence opened things up for everyone. There was a play of him coming off screens and actually getting double-teamed, where he then immediately fired a pass to a fouled Noah. And what I wasn't expecting was how much his speed and smarts helped in transition. He not only would aggressively move the ball up the court when given the opportunity, but his sprints to the rim would do wonders in collapsing the defense. On one play in particular, it was that extra motion alone that was enough to give Luol Deng a wide-open three-pointer.
Hamilton led the Bulls with a +18 in his nearly 30 minutes, and the Bulls offense was humming on a night where Derrick Rose only attempted 9 shots. Yes, it's preseason (and it's cliche to even point that out, right?), and Rip's one single practice game with the Bulls. But it's all we have to go on, and it went very well.
Other observations:
- With Ronnie Brewer pushed back to the bench, the Bench Mob was reformed. They didn't do as well as the starters, and while Brewer had a couple jumpers it's still a unit where oftentimes a green-lit CJ Watson is the only real play.
- Tyler Hansbrough once again gave the Bulls frontcourt fits, going off for 24 and 13 and getting several Bulls in foul trouble. Taj Gibson fouled out in only 16 minutes. Offensively though, he and Carlos Boozer (24 pts) were able to offset Hansbrough's contribution, though not his annoyingness.
- After being the sorta-star of the first preseason game, Jimmy Butler only played one minute tonight. The rotation is clearly set in terms of members, and he's not making it. What isn't set is the minutes distribution, and Kyle Korver didn't do anything to dispel the thought (that I had, anyway) that he's going to be the minutes casualty of Rip's acquisition. When he's not hitting shots (0-3 tonight) he's downright unplayable, and was clearly already Thibs (relatively) least favorite player.
- Joakim Noah had 5 blocks, 2 of which were spectacular (one against Hansbrough, another on Hibbert) in the way he was able to adjust.
- Comcast threw in a new wrinkle this year, a sideline report from CSNChicago's Aggrey Sam. That was kinda neat to see.
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by chapuforyou on Dec 21, 2011 8:56 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I love the way the team passed
it made the Pacers look outclassed.
by runningman on Dec 21, 2011 9:20 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Ya, but I hope Rose doesn't get gassed
Bears. Bulls. White Sox.
by The Voiss on Dec 21, 2011 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
your comments leave me aghast
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 21, 2011 10:20 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
the possibilities with this team and meme are vast
by brianm on Dec 21, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Thankfully, Bogans is a thing of the Past
by HG@PTY on Dec 21, 2011 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Because of the SG options we've amassed.
by pooriejay on Dec 21, 2011 10:59 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
The Bulls cannot be out classed.
dot dot dot
by Johannes Factotum on Dec 21, 2011 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
but without Kris Humphries, we'll always be out-assed.
by Rose Colored Goggles on Dec 21, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
OMG RHYMING IS SO FUNNY
(Iconoclast)
Come at Chapu, you best not miss.
by chapuforyou on Dec 21, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
They used outclassed.
You should feel like an ass.
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
by Prevenge on Dec 21, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
It's a bit late to jump on this bandwagon
I think I’ll pass
by SidM on Dec 22, 2011 12:43 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The impact of a competent player who can be trusted with the ball and who has a measure
of complete game can bring to a team. I think I might have underestimated the full spectrum of what Rip brings to the game as you pointed out (actively pushing the ball, getting out on breaks, finishing, passing to the open big). These are aspects of the game that are difficult to quantify. While there’s still a full season to see, the Bulls might just gain that last push from a solid and deep team to outright killers out there.
Side note: Good job Booze – please keep playing this way and don’t make me hate you.
I only caught the second half, but the Bulls definitely looked good
I agree with YFBB about Hamilton being surprisingly good in transition. You don’t expect a 33-year-old to run the floor that well or that aggressively. I guess that’s a testament to the shape Rip keeps himself in.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Dec 20, 2011 10:18 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
yeah that was fun to watch tonight
Can’t wait for Sunday!!!
by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions
Bulls looked, dare I say
like a complete, well rounded team tonight. I never had a doubt at all that they would win from the beginning, and I couldn’t say that a whole bunch last year. Even as they went on to lead the league in wins.
Like a guy who plays basketball, lost 15 lbs...
and was screaming gimme that shit. lmao jk I didnt get to watch the game
by bdasilva7785 on Dec 20, 2011 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
very good much improved over fri nite's game
Made some open shots, played well in the post
by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
really good
was raining from outside 12 feet and also had two really nice assists out of the post to guys cutting into the lane.
Looked really good on the whole
Still some room for improvement though, as he got stuffed at the rim a time or two.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Dec 20, 2011 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He was wide open right under the rim one time
But instead of dunking, he went for a layup.
If he goes hard for the dunk there, he gets a trip to the line minimum.
Someone needs to look it up
Is he the most blocked player of the last few years?
22yrs old. MVP.
by BigforkBullsFan on Dec 21, 2011 6:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
He got his shot blocked 10% of the time last year
Asik got it blocked 19%
This is the most relevant article I could find in a couple minutes of searching.
by runningman on Dec 21, 2011 9:08 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If Asik would just keep the ball high
no one could block him, but he has the bad habit of bringing it down below his waist. Some of those blocks were more like strips.
by Tim S. on Dec 21, 2011 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
as much as I hate to admit, Tyler is playing well
Taj couldn’t stop him either
by JustAnotherFan on Dec 21, 2011 7:14 AM CST up reply actions
I only saw fromt he 2nd quarter onward
and what I liked most, is that he at least tried to help defend. He is never going to be an average defender, but him simply moving his feet and attempting to help prevents a complete breakdown on an otherwise well-defended play.
Though, Hansborough scoring as much as he did, highlights Boozer’s lackluster one-on-one d (though, I also think Hansborough played above his skill level tonight)
by chowder on Dec 20, 2011 10:59 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Anyone else thing Aggrey Sam's reporting seemed a little....awkward?
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i think he needed to show himself
so people stop confusing him with an angry version of sam smith…i know i often do…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 20, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
yeah
he’ll get the hang of it I’m sure.
by Stretch5000 on Dec 20, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
I won't watch...
…because I refuse to believe it’s anything other than the personification of Sam Smith’s evil dark side Angry Sam.
meh
by tyger1147 on Dec 21, 2011 12:48 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah his passing was really good tonite
Only problem was he let Hansbrough get going again though. That said, very impressive on offense.
missed the game (hopefully davka uploads quickly)
but i heard that on fastbreaks there were plenty of moments when rose would take off, and we all know how fast rose is, but supposedly rip would almost always be in front of him (unless he was the one who got the rebound)…. if thats true, than rip does exactly what many were speculating. He doesnt need to score a bunch of points or get a bunch of touches to be effective, he just demands attention with his movements…if thats true, this is exciting
any thoughts on his defense btw? i havent heard anything from anyone on that front…
also, is it true rose used a post move tonight?
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 20, 2011 10:32 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
yes he did posted up collison
and scored too, think that was the only time though
by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
wasn't a real traditional post up either.
he kind of posted up collison, then cut into the lane and through up a nice floater over hibbert. still looked comfortable though.
yep the post-up game just makes him even more dangerous
Couple that with the double-digit assists he’ll get and we may have back-to-back MVPs
by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
Oh yeah, forgot about the emergence of the Derrick Rose post game
Here’s what happened:
Rose has the ball on the left wing. Boozer sets a pick on Rose’s right, but Rose goes the other way down to the baseline. After not getting a step on the drive, Rose went into the post, backed his man down and into the middle of the paint, and went up for a jump hook/floater hybrid kind of thing. Collison fouled him as he went up, Rose got a lucky bounce for the bucket and hit the free throw for a 3-pt play.
As for Hamilton’s defense, I didn’t see a notable dropoff from anything Bogans provided.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Dec 20, 2011 10:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yep stacey said he'll be an underrated defender
I don’t think we’ll lose much D either
by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
nice
i consider bogans to be a pretty good defender, mainly goes all out on defense (guess you save up a lot of energy while standing in the corner) so if rip plays even close to that on defense, plus makes his man run around following him….i think hes a huge upgrade as opposed to just a slight one.
Any idea what quarter the post move happened so i know to pay attention at that time during watching the game.
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 20, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
think the post move was in the 3rd qtr.
by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 10:47 PM CST up reply actions
thank you, willl look out for it when i watch the game tomorrow
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 20, 2011 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
Rose: 12 pts, 9 asts, only 9 shots.
And a win. Good stuff.
"You play to win the playoffs, and we let 'em off the hook!" -Herm Mora Green
Will we still add a 5th big man?
My vote is for Joe Smith over Pryzbilla.
seems like the roster is set at 13
Haven’t heard any rumors about a big guy on the way, although Chris Richard (former Noah teammate at U. of FLA and ex-Bull) was talked about in a post last night.
by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
he'll probably get semi regular 10 day contracts if we need him
Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.
by hedonism bot on Dec 21, 2011 12:09 AM CST up reply actions
yep other than pryzbilla no one else was mentioned to fill that spot
Would be great to have the depth though. Leon Powe (member of the 08 Celtics championship team) is the most intriguing name to me and Thibs was an assistant for that team. Haven’t heard anything new on that front though.
by walterfan34 on Dec 21, 2011 12:12 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll wait to pass full judgement on RIP since it was just one preseason game and I wanna see him in a few games first
But I will admit tonight was impressive all around. They seemed to flow of the game seemed much more smooth and systematic rather than the obvious Rose youtube highlight and the ball movement was just a thing of beauty. RIP was surprisingly fluid in the fast breaks. It didn’t look like a guy who has only been here a week or so. If they play like this again (with a little more consistent scoring from the bench…….Korver) than I will be happy.
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"Brian Dawkins is always 100% Eagles related."--macjack09 & BGN Nation
yep everyone was involved in the offense
It was really fun to watch
If this is how the starting five plays together
with less than a week of practice, then I’m really excited to see what the Bulls can do this season.
by bryield on Dec 20, 2011 10:48 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
and that bench too-deepest team in the entire NBA
by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 10:49 PM CST up reply actions
Not to nit-pik
But I wish they could provide just a little bit more consistent scoring with that group. I love the fact that they can shut down an opposing teams bench players (and sometimes starters) but I wish I they just had that one person or style that allowed them to put up points to complement their defense.
Hopefully that jumper by Ronnie from mid-range wasn’t a fluke and Taj can keep developing a mid-ranger himself.
"truTV is like BET for white folks." - Chuck
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Korver's the instant offense element
But we didn’t see that in these 2 games, hopefully he’s back to last year’s form when the season starts.
by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
On the other hand...
Maybe we should root for the bench to keep sucking on offense. If Asik/Taj develop post games, they’ll be even more likely to end up getting an offer out of JR’s comfort zone.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Dec 20, 2011 10:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
especially w/ the salaries the starters are making
Would really hurt to lose anybody off this bench though, because of the chemistry they now have.
by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 11:04 PM CST up reply actions
another note
It could just be preseason rotations, but last year Deng played with the bench mob for the first 3 minutes, then moved to the bench. Tonight he sat those minutes (and I’m all for more Deng rest), moving Korver into the offense. Korver is slightly more one-dimensional as an offensive threat, and that one dimension wasn’t working tonight. Therefore, I expect the offense to be better.
By the way, Brewer’s shot looked good tonight, hopefully it consistently remains strong.
by chowder on Dec 20, 2011 11:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd expect Rip to play some 3 too
to give Deng some needed rest, like you said
by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
"slightly"
Rose decides not to go 1-on-2 and I was thinking, "what are you doing?! You've got the numbers!" -Zach Harper, Daily Dime Live
by Prevenge on Dec 21, 2011 3:23 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
So this is what's it's like to have a competent SG. Is it wrong to feel optimistic about the upcoming season?
On the J.R. Smith bandwagon until otherwise advised.
no, it's not wrong, this team could be very special
Fixed the SG problem and I’d like to see 1 more veteran big guy added for frontcourt depth, but I really like the way the team is built.
by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
I'm very optimistic about the season, but
still worried about the playoffs. Just stay healthy, guys!
by Tim S. on Dec 21, 2011 7:14 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well lets see last year the team had the best record in the league
And got an upgrade at their one flaw
On your Hansbrough point...
It’s interesting how well his groundbound game has translated. Though he was widely dismissed coming into the pros, he seems to be doing exactly what he did in college, where he ended up ranked number one in career free throw attempts.
it's like stacey said their coaching change last year was a big factor
He wasn’t getting any PT w/ Jim O’Brien as HC
by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 11:00 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, objectively, it's hard not to like Vogel.
He had an incredibly gracious pregame interview—talking about how much he learned about coaching last year by having to go against Thibs so often.
by Reaver on Dec 20, 2011 11:04 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
yep for a guy like Larry Bird to name him the full-time coach
is really impressive. They’ll have higher expectations now that they’ve added George Hill and David West. Will be a fun rivalry to watch in the future, that’s for sure.
by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 11:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Everytime Hansbrough Scored . . .
I said, “YOU CAN NOT STOP THIS MAN!”
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Should there be any concern regarding the foul trouble with Booz and Taj?
It just seems like Hansborough flops a lot, although a couple times Booz did hack him. The ref just seems to hate Taj for whatever reason, and Asik as well.
On the J.R. Smith bandwagon until otherwise advised.
I think it's preseason for the refs too
There were A LOT (maybe 50-60) fouls called Fri nite and they didn’t let anyone on both teams get away w/ anything. At least that’s what it seemed like to me.
by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure about that
At the beginning of the game they held their whistles a lot. I saw Pacers go over the back on Noah twice, Boozer get fouled, and think it was Deng get fouled on a fast break.
Hansborough is great at drawing fouls
He gets into the defender’s chest and forces the refs to call something. I hate watching it, because it’s obvious he’s the aggressor many times, but he usually gets away with it.
Boozer will be fine, and we know Taj’s defense is solid.
by runningman on Dec 21, 2011 12:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
oh my god whay cant it be sunday yet?
You always were second best! And in this business, Bub, second best don't *cut* it!
by Yibs on Dec 20, 2011 11:21 PM CST via Android app reply actions
yep can't wait for Sun either
Should be a great game. I’ll be looking for our post players to dominate inside, especially since they won’t have Bynum available to play.
by walterfan34 on Dec 20, 2011 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah usually I don't have much goin' on December 25th, so this'll be fun.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Dec 21, 2011 12:01 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
okay we can win a title after watching the highlights from tonight
heat got nothing on us
Should've traded for Melo.
wheres sin
and what have you done with him….
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Dec 20, 2011 11:53 PM CST up reply actions
Who the hell are you?!
"Violence is not always the answer."
"Violence is the question, and the answers always YES!"
by T.Moore on Dec 21, 2011 12:13 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Haven't got to see this yet but after reading
by Option27 on Dec 21, 2011 12:43 AM CST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
With a starting lineup composed of unselfish players
and above average passers, i’m excited to see the Bulls’ offense in action. Their high assist ratio might not be a fluke. Double Rose, and your defense will never recover.
by runningman on Dec 21, 2011 12:45 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Where do games get uploaded. I'm in shanghai and need to see basketball.
meh
by tyger1147 on Dec 21, 2011 12:50 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
how is shang hai btw
was it a permanent move or are you coming back to the us soon…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Glad you asked!
Because I need the same thing. Thanks!
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Dec 21, 2011 4:30 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, just wow
What a difference RIP makes in this lineup,one game,preseason, or not the difference he is going to make is completely obvious!!.
Just how he automatically makes everyone better, well more open is absolutely amazing!
I knew a decent SG would upgrade this offense, multiply its effectiveness times ten,and make this team look much better, but I mean damn they looked absolutely great.
At times it was like a whole different team. This team is officially SCARY, and after tonight how can us fans not be excited!! The perfect move, it seems, by Garpaxdorf, and really only time will tell, but it looks extremely solid for now. I cannot wait to see this season play out,its going to be damn fun to watch!
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by chicagobullies on Dec 21, 2011 12:54 AM CST via mobile reply actions
guys
Don’t laugh but I think our team would be perfect with mcgrady running the bench mob a little
by MartyMondays on Dec 21, 2011 1:00 AM CST via mobile reply actions
So, RIP seems like a good addition. He is soooo superior to Bogans, and looked so much better than the last few seasons in Detroit.
What a difference when he is surrounded by good, unselfish and defense oriented players. Will get plenty of good looks every game with the Bulls.
So who should be the bench mob's first offensive option?
Korver, Taj or Asik?
by Dunker Von Smashalot on Dec 21, 2011 2:30 AM CST reply actions
Because of a couple mediocre preseason games?
He is a shooter, can we give him some time to get in a rhythm before he becomes the obligatory whipping boy?
by Dunker Von Smashalot on Dec 21, 2011 2:39 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Well you saw who was getting "whipped" after game 1
Most of the fans here, where clammering for the amnesty of Big Booz. Just because of one bad preseason game lol…..really?….
Guys just give Korver a chance.The man gives his 100% out there offensively and defensively.Does that equate to statistical success? Sometimes yes and sometimes no, but still the point remains, this team still needs Korver to do well, and he will still be a vital part of this team, even if his minutes will be decreased. Give the man some time. and quit overreacting!!
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by chicagobullies on Dec 21, 2011 6:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Rebounding
You can’t deny that he is a willing rebounder. He ripped one away from Foster and had 6 the first preseason game.
by The Griot on Dec 21, 2011 8:26 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
career 41% 3 point shooter
Also, best single season 3 point shooter in NBA history (~54%).
I guess that sucks in your world?
by Reaver on Dec 21, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So isn't anyone going to annoyingly play Monday Morning QB
and say that if we moved for Rip last season we could have won the whole thing?
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by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Dec 21, 2011 4:32 AM CST reply actions
While it is an interesting conjecture
I don’t know that it is that simple, because we wouold have had to give up either Brewer or Korver (and maybe both) to get him last year, just to make the salaries match. That blow to our depth may have been more that the improvement from Bogans to Rip.
i don't think we would have made a move for him last season
we would have had to stomach the 19 million left on his contract for this season and next. it would have only been if he agreed to a buyout after being traded to the cavs like some suspected. so then it would be the same thing as now where we didn’t have to give up anyone…
Look
I didn’t want to offend anyone by saying the "f" word or generalizing my statement to any particular sex by saying "gays" or lesbians" or "bi’s" so "homos" is the most "politically correct" term. I’m just trying to be more tact in a tactless blog.
by Hindut Patrol on Feb 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST
Annoying but possibly true
but I don’t even have the energy to go there. It’s a new season.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
Would have had to give something up
since he was making 13 million. I don’t see how that would have worked.
by runningman on Dec 21, 2011 9:16 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
The Bulls were ready to sign him if Detroit bought him out.
But the Bulls could not afford his contract.
The second unit is supposed to shut them down.
Maybe they relaxed because of the lead, but if the second unit had played the way they are capable, this would have been a blowout. I want to see lots of blowouts this season. It gives the starters rest.
by Tim S. on Dec 21, 2011 7:18 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Ya, that was a bit depressing
However, the refs were calling a tight game tonight. I’d have to go back and look at the play-by-play, but it seemed like many of Indiana’s points against our bench came on free throws. Indiana shot 23 FT’s last night. And honestly, even if I am wrong, the Pacers shot 37% from the field last night. If our bench unit was actually allowing that percentage to come up, that means we saw a dominating performance on both ends of the floor by our starting unit. The biggest issue we had last year is that rotations tighten up in the postseason. That will be less of an issue this year.
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
by DRose01 on Dec 21, 2011 7:57 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Why will shortened rotations in the postseason be less of an issue?
Because Hamilton improves our playoff lineup? I hope that is right, but the starters need to get through an intense season first, so I don’t want the team letting up on the throttle when they should be blowing someone out. Of course, it was preseason. But still. I want blowouts.
Could not care less about blowouts. Big Macs yes, blowouts no. In soccer, a goal difference can make a difference between teams having an equal record but not here.
I’d be happy if bench gets more minutes than starters in all games we can afford it. It would be nice if Bulls, namely Rose and Deng went into the post season averaging under 30 minutes per game. I know I’m dreaming, but let me dream.
I think we both have the same goal.
I wouldn’t want to leave the starters out there for 40 minutes in order to ensure a blowout, but if the team can avoid the temptation to let off the gas then the starters don’t have to play 40 minutes.
Less that 30 a game for starters is just silly
I’m not even sure that would be a good thing.
by tuluse on Dec 21, 2011 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think San Antonio tries for an average of 35 minutes.
But some of their players are older and injury prone. Still, I would be ecstatic if Rose and Deng could play less per game this season than last.
I think everyone can agree
that less minutes for Rose and Deng would be a good thing.
Ah, well that is true
I more meant that our starting lineup looks much better. But yes, blowouts will help preserve the legs of our players that we desperately need for the playoffs.
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
It was the bench offense
that was the problem, not the defense. Defense was fine, but when Watson/Brewer/Korver/Taj/Asik are on the floor together, points are hard to come by, especially when Korver’s not hittin’ like he wasn’t.
by JockstrapNoah on Dec 21, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
Rip's passing impressed me the most.
You never would know he had been a Bull for under a week watching how he was hitting open teammates left and right. He also seemed to have surprising chemistry with DRose in the open court.
Rose has been playing more of a facilitator in the two preseason games. It would be nice if he doesn’t have to burden a ridiculous amount of the scoring burden…might keep him more fresh for the playoffs.
by bleigh82 on Dec 21, 2011 8:50 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
he was just too happy
playing with guys that actually pass the ball and make the right play. Pretty much everyone on this team is unselfish. Playing with stuckey, gordon, bynum and CV is just damn too depressing lol
Rip's a good fundamentally sound basketball player
A solid pro that I’m excited to see grow with the team this season
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Dec 21, 2011 9:48 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
in his new extension or is that for being MVP?
22yrs old. MVP.
by BigforkBullsFan on Dec 21, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
By winning the MVP
he got an increase in that max extension he just signed.
I also liked the way he ran with Rose.
It would be nice if Rose had a running mate.
by Tim S. on Dec 21, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Carlos Boozer played well. The shooting guard played well.
WHAT IS THIS I’M FEELING?
Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Cha-pu
by chapuforyou on Dec 21, 2011 8:55 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
and Derrick Rose only scored 12 poitns
AND WE STILL CONVINCINGLY WON
MY MIND IS BLOWN
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If I have calculated the number of possessions in the game correctly (possible I screwed this up), it appears the Bulls
scored 124 points per 100 possessions in this game, which is prime Nash era Phoenix Suns on their best day type stuff. Pretty incredible for a team still shaking off the rust. Not sure how much to take from it, but boy did they look fluid. Love the Rip fit so far.
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by fundamentallysound on Dec 21, 2011 10:44 AM CST reply actions 7 recs
Thanks for doing that
It’s definitely something to track as the season goes on, especially on a lineup basis.
The Bulls starting lineup with Korver at SG instead of Bogans scored 1.24 points per possession last year which is, of course, 124 points per 100 possession.
My hope/expectation is that they’ll score somewhere close to that without giving up 1.15 points per possession like they did with Korver. Thibs would not be okay with the Bulls performing like Phoenix on both offense and defense.
by runningman on Dec 21, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
CWebb and Greg Anthony last night on Hamilton
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2011/12/21/20111220_gt_bulls_hamilton.nba
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Dec 21, 2011 11:15 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
If Anthony honestly believes the Bulls have the best starting 5...
Then he must think they’re the best team in the league.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 21, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Do the players choose what Tommy Edwards announces them as?
I didn’t like how “Richard RIP Hamilton!” sounded, and I also noticed he said “3 point field goal by DROSE!” which I didn’t like.
THEO!
by wrigleyrocker12 on Dec 21, 2011 11:47 AM CST reply actions
Maybe you should send Tommy Edwards a memo regarding your grievances...
And then check with Stacey King to see if he got said memo. Stacey King is really good at checking on wether or not a person has received a memo.
by KiLE on Dec 21, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
this was quite hilarious
You always were second best! And in this business, Bub, second best don't *cut* it!
Usually they haven't.
The state of secretaries in and around the NBA must be quite poor.
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by Prevenge on Dec 22, 2011 5:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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