Restricted free agent shooting guard Nick Young.... is expected to sign his one-year, $3.7 million...

Restricted free agent shooting guard Nick Young.... is expected to sign his one-year, $3.7 million qualifying offer with the Wizards on Monday, according to people with knowledge of the situation.

Young is coming off a career year with the Wizards, finishing as the team’s leading scorer at 17.4 point per game. But he found a rushed free agent market that was unfavorable to players at his position — and restricted free agents in general. Most teams around the league anticipated that the Wizards would match any offer for Young and few had the resources or willingness to give him a lucrative offer sheet.

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Yea this was a very bad time for unrestricted free agents

Hopefully we can get him next off season

by jayr67 on Dec 19, 2011 12:04 PM CST reply actions

If Young was as efficient as Ben Gordon

would we give him the contract Ben Gordon wanted? Young is taller.

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by NBA Observer on Dec 19, 2011 12:04 PM CST reply actions 1 recs

This could be great for the Bulls

Young becomes an unrestricted free agent next year. All the Bulls will have is an MLE, but at least Young will have the choice. Meh, maybe we can trade for him midyear?

"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight

by DRose01 on Dec 19, 2011 12:36 PM CST reply actions

supposedly young was looking for something around 9million

depending on how he plays, that might go up or down by a million or so. I dont think he wants to be an mle player, i think he believes he deserves more…

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 19, 2011 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs

i'd say 9million year one is about market value

for Young. If the Bulls were running with Gibson at the 4, I’d say pay up, a lineup with Rose/Young/Deng/Gibson/Noah would be very good, with space for solid pieces on the bench. But the way the team is now, I’d say you ride with it, adding pieces like hamilton along the way.

If the team peaks, then make a move for top gun like Howard or something. But if you commit your entire salary cap to 5 players, which would hypothetically be Rose/Young/Deng/Boozer/Noah, the team would probably be perennial runners up as the bench slowly erodes due to cap casualties.

Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.

by hedonism bot on Dec 19, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

i dont think the bulls have a huge fear of our role players eroding

due to cap, or age at least. Our bench players are either in their prime or approaching it, at least the ones that we use a lot. As for cap reasons, J.R. has proven that he is more willing to overpay for role players that he knows and likes (kirk hinrich, luol deng, andres nocioni) as opposed to over pay for superstars he doesnt know (kobe, melo, pau gasol, amare, howard)

I think this is probably the biggest strength of our roster, and our biggest weakness. We have rose and then we have a bunch of great role players, some who are border line all-stars (deng, noah) and the rest who are just really really solid. No other team can boast that. Yet all theses role players and we dont seem to package them together to pick up that one player who isnt just borderline, but a definite allstar.

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 19, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions

we got rid of Hinrich/Noc

via salary dumps, and Deng is a starting caliber forward, hardly a role player.

Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.

by hedonism bot on Dec 19, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions

yea dumped noch and hinrich for a shot at the best basketball player in the game

i think thats more of a special circumstance, and my point is…they paid them. What they did afterwards is pointless, they still paid them and i think in a way they probably regret more letting them go then they did paying them.

Also, would you consider taj a roleplayer, i would, and i would also say he is a starting caliber forward as well. Deng is a solid player, but hes like a lamar odom, hes a role player, a great one mind you, but he cant lead on his own, he can take over games on his own, hes a guy who can play off a star, not become a star.

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 19, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions

so what are you trying to say exactly.

that you’d lock up your starting lineup at the cost of your entire salary cap, or that JR is willing to go into the tax for a bench full of slightly overpaid bench players if the lineup is Rose/Young/Deng/Boozer/Noah?

I think if they would put together that lineup, the most of our bench contributors wouldn’t be on the team in a few seasons and we’d have NBA retreads from the 6th man to the 12th.

If we had no Boozer, I could see the Bulls adding a 9 million salary like the one Young would get.

Let us cavort like the Greeks of old! You know the ones I mean.

by hedonism bot on Dec 19, 2011 3:52 PM CST up reply actions

all im saying is that our bench isnt going to erode

assuming you are defining erode as ‘slowly get worse’. The bulls get young, lose korver? well young essentially replaces him, and rip is on the bench. the bulls decide to drop brewer, well butler takes his role as our defensive player. The bulls lose taj or asik, then mirotic becomes the bench big. Were also not considering what the bulls will be drafting, which seems to be just very good high floor rotation players. So by that means, i think the bulls have no problems of fearing erosion.

The bulls CANT sign young for more than the mle at any rate so it doesnt even matter. That bench is set up nicely, and it would serve the bulls better to package a few of them together to get that one all-star/superstar to put the team over the top and then nab retreads for the bench. But in terms of natural progression the bulls bench isnt going to erode (get worse) by age or by salary issues. Its going to remain deep and good until they start trading away players to bolster that starting group.

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 19, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions

Ya, this is the issue for the Bulls

Unless they find a true ring chaser who wants to play here, the Bulls have too much money invested in their starters to pick up someone good. They basically have to decide if Rose+Noah+Deng+Boozer+any MLE player will ever win them a championship. If the answer ends up being no, then they need to find a way to parlay one or more of those pieces into young/cheap talent. On the plus side, they may have already done this (in part anyway). Mirotic will be cheap whenever he comes over. If they can bust Boozer+picks+filler into a SG, they may have a potential championship lineup in two years with Rose+Deng+Noah+new SG+Mirotic. That said, the Bulls owe it to themselves to play out this season and see if their fate is the same or if they can rise to the occasion.

"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight

by DRose01 on Dec 19, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs

If Miami, Boston, LA, NY

can benefit from ring chasers we should be able to as well….

by droselilbro on Dec 19, 2011 2:32 PM CST up reply actions

the common thing with those teams

aside from ny, is that they all made it to the finals…..ny will always be an attraction just cuz its ny or something…

if the bulls make it to the finals, more ring chasers will show up

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 19, 2011 2:49 PM CST up reply actions

Also, I don't think you can pencil Mirotic

in as championship starter in year one, can you?

(not defending Boozer, far from it, but I think letting Mirotic “come to us” as some great strategy is too garpaxdorfy for my tastes)

by droselilbro on Dec 19, 2011 2:33 PM CST up reply actions

Well of course not

That’s why I said they may have done that already. Bottom line is that you need to acquire cheap talent at some point to win a championship. All the Bulls will have to spend in year’s to come is the MLE and mini MLE. If they can not develop a championship roster with those tools, they will need to cut salary before acquiring more talent. All I was saying is that it is possible Mirotic could be a way to cut salary if we could acquire a good enough talent at SG.

"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight

by DRose01 on Dec 19, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions

Or you can just keep trading expensive mistakes

for other ones, but the new CBA makes that more unlikely. Even the Lakers seemed to prefer to dump Lamar Odom straight out, rather than take back equivalent salary.

by runningman on Dec 19, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions

Also good...

… to see if Young’s game improves. He doesn’t really play that much (maybe 20+ mins a night) so I wouldn’t want the Bulls to throw a bunch of cash at him hoping he pans out as a starter. He’s a legit rotation guy on a HORRIBLE team. I don’t think that’s worth $9MM.

by Stay Chisel on Dec 19, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions

offensively he seems legit

great shooter, gets to the rim, can handle the ball. But hes not a complete player at all, lackluster defense (despite having the physical tools to be a good one) often misses the right pass, seems immature at times both on and off the court. The bulls could use him, we have the culture to whip him into shape, but i doubt his perception will ever let the bulls actually take the chance with him.

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Dec 19, 2011 2:59 PM CST up reply actions