It's been well documented that the Bulls, in order to get a player like Brandon Roy or Richard Hamilton, would have to get very lucky. Per rules, teams over or at the salary cap (which includes the Bulls) can't claim amnestied players via waivers and are only allowed to sign them if no under the cap teams claim them and they become free agents.

But i'm wondering, is there a rule keeping a team from claiming it's own player? For example: say the Bulls are interested in bringing in Brandon Roy, but they don't want to risk him getting claimed by the Warriors, Pacers, or Wizards. Could the Bulls call the Blazers and say "Hey, you know how you were planning on losing Roy this year? Want something back for him? We can't afford to pay his current salary, but go ahead and amnesty him, then claim him. We'll give you one of Gibson/Asik, one of Brewer/Bogans/Korver, and we'll throw in a pick." Is this allowed in the new CBA?

What about asking another team to claim and amnestied player for you? I'll use Hamilton in this example. Say the Pistons amnesty Hamilton. Could the Bulls call up the Clippers and say "If you claim Hamilton off waivers, we'll give you Brewer and Asik for him." Is this allowed or would it be considered collusion?

If either of these are allowed, it completely re-opens the door for contenders like the Bulls to have a crack at amnestied players.