Would you deal the Bobcats pick for Ben Gordon?
by SoulEater7 on Jan 9, 2011 1:35 AM CST
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PrintOk I know this is probably a crazy idea and of course probably dumb. But guys I really miss these special times he had. BG and Derrick really had something special and the Bulls for whatever reason didn't feel the same way. I don't get it and maybe I never will.
Detroit is a mess they are stock piled with short contracts and BG is wasting away for a losing cause. Yeah he wins because he's making bank but don't you sometimes think why did the Beatles breakup or why did Tupac and Biggie have to be killed? Why couldn't the Bulls given BG back that offer? We had great times!
So I ask you Bulls management can you put bad feeling behind you? Give the fans what we want. Give back our BG?
Of course the price might be high and would Detroit help out the Bulls? Likely no. But Detroit is bad. They know it. So would they be interested in the Bobcats pick and some sort of package of players?
BG+ a player
for
Korver+CJ+JJ (Bobcats pick)
Hell then down the road bring Kirk back and get the band back together!
The dynamic duo once again?
This is Bogans fault!
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i just watched game 4 of the celts/chi series over the other day
i miss him
Derrick Rose is a motherfucking ninja.
I've followed BG since Uconn...
…but I don’t know that he fits on this team as currently composed. I’m beyond frustrated that Detroit is wasting away his prime but I’m not convinced he’s what the Bulls need right now. He could be a great #2 option with a superstar but I’m not sure he would excel as a #3 beyond both Rose and Boozer.
Why because of Thibs?
Dude I think systems are overrated in the NBA. In the NFL I could see that but really all he does is have to make the open shot. I mean what more.. yeah he’s not the greatest defender but who is these days?
Yeah you're right
Because none of the past NBA Champions didn’t have great offensive systems…well, except for the Lakers, Pistons, Spurs and Celtics.
"I may be, with the exception of Kirk Hinrich, the whitest player in the NBA" -Paul Shirley
I'm not saying the system doesn't matter but for a guy like BG he basically takes the Ray Allen role.
Ray Allen is not the greatest defender and he had thrived in this system. It’s the NBA when it comes down to it players make the plays.
The fact that you have
Boozer and BG is exactly why he would work here. BG can run off screens and stand for open shots when Boozer or Rose is commanding a double team. He may be even more dangerous now than he was before. You’d be amazed with how much space would be on the floor with BG standing in the corner for a 3pt shot. Imagine Rose having as much room as Rondo to operate. That’s because Rondo has Ray Allen running around demanding attention.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
* should say Boozer and Rose
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
It would be difficult
It would mean having to pay each starter 10+ million per season. You’re looking at 50-60 million just for your starters.
If we have a hard cap next year, we might be fucked. (Then again, so would the Lakers, Celtics, Magic and Heat).
"I may be, with the exception of Kirk Hinrich, the whitest player in the NBA" -Paul Shirley
Yeah but he's contract is for 3 years which is the same as Korver and Watson.
You think they’ll still be worth it in 3 years?
Maybe for both of them.
Watson is still young and Korver is just a shooter (though he isn’t doing that very well right now…)
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
There are huge differences between Gorden's contract
and Korver’s and Brewer’s contracts.
Korver’s and Brewer’s contracts arent fully guaranteed in their third years, so they really only have 1 year after this year with team options the year after. Gorden’s contract is fully guaranteed for 3 more years with a player option for a fourth year, which Gorden will very likely option.
Korver’s contract is also flat, and Brewer’s contract decreases every year after this. Gorden’s contract increases every year.
No, I dont want to trade for Ben Gorden. If the Bulls need a new starting SG for this season/playoffs, I would rather trade for someone like JR Smith. His contract is ending, so the Bulls can start anew if things dont work out. If the new CBA brings a hard cap, there will be a lot of good basketball players available. I would wait to see who the Bulls can sign then.
by VaderMaul on Jan 9, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
"really only 1 more year after this"
“fully guaranteed 3 more years”
subtle but awesome use of the language there (even if dishonest)
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Seems honest to me
-Gordon will pick up his option year putting him on the books through 2014.
-If the team doesn’t want Brewer/Korver, they can be let go after 2012 with no penalty.
His language implied there was a 2 year difference in how long the team would have to pay Gordon vs the others, and that is likely accurate.
btw BG was awful tonight.
but 3 for 4 from the free throw line. Maybe Detroit would do this trade and it’s not so far out.
Why would we include the Charlotte pick?
Detroit has a horrible mix of players and are over the cap with little flexibility for the future. They would probably just do it to get out from under BG’s salary. The mix they have right now is headed nowhere but thr lottery. They need to blow up their roster.
by JSB on Jan 9, 2011 2:18 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Well then don't include the pick.
But if they are desperate maybe moving BG’s 10 mill for CJ and Korver split could ease their issues.
Well given the title of your fanpost, it's a valid question
No, I wouldn’t give up the Charlotte pick to acquire Ben Gordon because the Pistons probably want to get rid of his contract. If the Bulls were inclined to trade the Charlotte pick, they probably could get better bang for their buck (salary on BG is high for what the does) than BG.
by JSB on Jan 9, 2011 2:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
If I had confidence that the Bulls pay the luxury tax, and that they could keep anyone on the team they wanted...
…(and the trade could be done) I’d gladly give up the Charlotte pick and nothing else.
Rose – Watson
Gordon – Brewer – Korver – Watson
Deng – Brewer – Korver
Boozer – Gibson – Deng – Thomas
Noah – Asik – Thomas
That’s a good team AND with depth to deal with injuries. But expensive and possibly not allowed under the next CBA.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Wait, how would we get Gordon without trading salary back to the Pistons?
This team would be really good though.
by JSB on Jan 9, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, it's not a situation that can happen.
Was answering the question of the Original Poster in a vacuum, which of course, can’t be done.
Just stating the obvious (for what reason, I don’t know) that Ben Gordon is vastly more valuable than the Charlotte pick by itself.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I just had another thought
There has been talk of teams being able to buy-out players contracts for cap amnesty as part of the new CBA. I wonder if the Pistons would do that with BG.
by JSB on Jan 9, 2011 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Not if they can trade Hamilton
which it looks likely will happen in this Melo deal. Even then, it’s a toss-up if Hamilton or Gordon gets bought out.
Doubt he's bad enough to buy out..
He’s worth less than he’s getting paid, but he’s not completely useless. Unless Detroit just wants to give money away, it’s not like their close to contending, so the cap room wouldn’t do the much good anyways.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 12, 2011 9:27 AM CST up reply actions
I think it wouldn't be needed either
maybe our pick
Did you vote for the ASG today?
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 9, 2011 2:54 AM CST up reply actions
Im sorry but Hell Naw
No defense whats so ever CJ is basically a younger BG but i love CJ(i think im like da only 1 or somethn unfortunately) i’d trade Korver and Luol dey piss me off alot but BG is not the answer…kirk can come back though ASAP lol we neeeeed him and unlike a # of other former bulls…he hasn’t tanked
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by PNoble on Jan 9, 2011 3:13 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
"This is probably both crazy and dumb"... So... I think I'll ask BAB what they think about it.
I love that thought process.
Fuck the Big Macs!
by BAB-Bass on Jan 9, 2011 3:20 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
Absolutely!
It makes too much sense actually. People that are against it lean on the same crap “His defense sucks and he’s a gunner”. But right now this team is constituted perfectly for his services. Hell the fact that he can shoot free throws alone is enough to consider getting him back.
BG can definitely run point as well as CJ is right now and you’d be getting more offensive production. The irony is that for those people that are saying he wouldn’t fit, all they have to do is look at the last few games where Thibs has gone with CJ at SG while Rose is on the floor. Hell if you’re going to go that small at times, you might as well have BG instead.
You could start Brewer and bring BG in with the second unit…or even have a go small with Rose,BG, Brewer,Deng,Noah against certain teams. Then his size becomes a mismatch for other teams…He’d be perfect here. Who cares about his defense at that point if he’s giving you 15 a night with smaller minutes?
JJ,Korver, and CJ should get that trade done. I’d have a hard time believing that the Pistons wouldn’t do it. Hopefully Pax has at least thought about it.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
Ben Gordon got paid...
and subsequently sank into obscurity.
Sometimes that happens. Maybe it’s a coincidence. Maybe that’s who he is. I don’t think I want either on the Bulls. But I will say I’m glad Detroit is finding it out about him and not Chicago.
You could say the same
about Kirk after he got his money here. And he stayed on the same team with no excuses.
Hey Rose. I don't see the appeal!
well kirk was paid by the bulls, so he was our problem like how gordon is detroits problem now
and he was traded because of the contract.
I'm cuckoo for Kukoc!!!
BG has a severe ankle injury [and I think a shoulder injury?] he played through last year
also, the Pistons decided they need to be Timberwolves East, so they have two starter-quality SG’s [neither gets enough playing time] and a bunch of SF/PF hybridish players, but no centers or PG’s.
The Miami Heat: Like ants and a magnifying glass. ... OH NO! CHRIS BOSH’S BEAUTIFUL FACE!!!!!!!!
PLEASE
imagine our 4th quarters
boozer rose bg
Rodman is the best.
I'd be pretty disgusted if we did this..
Not because I value the Charlotte pick though. But because BG is overpaid, and doesn’t fit well w/ the team. Start Brewer and we’d be fine.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 9, 2011 12:31 PM CST reply actions
Yeah, Ben Gordon Sucks. Those 42 points against the Celtics in the playoffs would really hurt the team
by JSB on Jan 9, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't say he sucks?
You can be both very good and overpaid… Using one game as an example is stupid anyways, and completely off the point I was making.
We have a bunch of highly paid players, adding an overpriced, undersized SG doesn’t make sense with what we are trying to do. I’m not suggesting he sucks.. you’re putting words in my mouth.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 9, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
I was being hyperbolic
I doubt that JR is willing to take on all that salary, but I do think that BG would be a good fit with this team.
If we are going to beat the Magic or Heat we need more offensive firepower.
by JSB on Jan 9, 2011 3:50 PM CST up reply actions
We need more size.
Fuck the offense at this point, get the next stop, we have 3 guys who can get the next bucket.
"What do you think, I just dunked my whole career?" Jordan asked Henderson after making a 3.
"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
"That’s what Cleveland said," replied Jordan
That doesn't make a lot of sense
We have Noah coming back from injury and still are #1 in adjusted defense. We are #20 in adjusted offense. Offense is definitely more of our need.
by JSB on Jan 9, 2011 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Tell me how that Noah thing works against Howard.
And he’ll get his buckets, the key has to be stopping the perimeter players from killing us, if we face the Magic, which I think we will in the EC playoffs.
How does BG help with that?
It has to be about defense with this team.
"What do you think, I just dunked my whole career?" Jordan asked Henderson after making a 3.
"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
"That’s what Cleveland said," replied Jordan
It already is about defense
Swapping out Bogans for Gordon isn’t going to change that. After watching Bogans for 35 games, you can’t tell me Gordon is a worse defender. The only thing Bogans has on Gordon is 2 inches, and BG makes up for it with longer arms and better hops. I bet he would play good enough team defense for Thibs.
And the Magic have been scoring a ton lately in case you haven’t noticed. Which big man to stop Howard are you going to acquire? And how much would he get to play anyways?
Our biggest hole on this team is scoring 2 guard. Gordon fills it.
by JSB on Jan 9, 2011 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
Bogans isn't the guy you are replacing..
Regardless of the fact he’s starting, Brewer is getting the minutes. You’re replacing Brewer with Gordon, and that’s pointless when you consider their salaries and the team.
Ben Gordon is certainly a better scorer than Ronnie Brewer, but he is not a better fit for this team considering their salaries and style of play.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 10, 2011 8:42 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
this.
And, I just said Howard is going to get his buckets. Pls read full comment before replying JSB.
"What do you think, I just dunked my whole career?" Jordan asked Henderson after making a 3.
"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
"That’s what Cleveland said," replied Jordan
you aren't replacing Brewer with Gordon
Bogans plays 18 minutes a game. Korver plays 22 minutes a game, as does Brewer. If you give all Bogans minutes to Gordon, and split Korver’s minutes between Brewer and Gordon, youv’e actually increased the number of minutes Brewer is on the court.
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 10, 2011 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ding ding ding
/bnts’d
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
That's clearly wrong..
Brewer played 22 minutes a game for the season, but that’s weighted down by the early games when he was coming off injury.
He’s clearly playing more minutes now and Bogans is playing less.
And you’re just benching Korver? That’s a waste of money, it’d be stupid to trade a draft pick for an overpaid player with the way the roster is constructed. He makes no sense on this team.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 10, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Obviously misread your last post.. you'd trade Korver.
None the less, I still think it’s a miserable trade for the Bulls, not based on Gordon’s talent (he’s clearly the better player), but from a fit with the current Bulls roster.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 10, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
i didn't spell it out
but i would offer Korver, Bogans and Kurt Thomas and maybe a future 1st round pick. I wouldn’t offer the Charlotte pick. I just don’t think you can get another scorer of BG’s caliber without giving up Taj, Asik or the Charlotte pick. I think DET with the new ownership coming in and with the way BG has performed there versus the way we know he is capable of performing – I think it could be a steal.
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 10, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sure Detroit would consider it a steal
To get out from under that miserable contract.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 10, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
Sure. Bad contracts suck when you're losing.
They suck if you’re winning games, but a lot, LOT less so. If, let’s say, Gordon’s unique abilities combined with the Bulls’ deficiencies, are just the thing to A) put them in the conference finals 3 of the next 4 years, B) put them put them in the league finals twice and C) give them a legitimate shot at winning it all… wouldn’t Gordon’s contract be about the 173rd thing you’d be thinking about?
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Jan 12, 2011 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
How does BG help?
he can actually score some points on his own. Or do you think Bogans and Brewer are going to hold Arenas, Richardson, Q, Reddick and Turk scoreless?
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 10, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
He also gives up points on his own.
And gets paid to player better than he does. Nice player, sure, but overpaid and not the answer. People are living in the past, if he didn’t play for the Bulls before no one would even mention him.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 10, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
Except, the defense is number two (yes, you can still get better, but still)...
Offense is number 17. I see something you don’t.
Yes, defense wins championships, but shitty offenses don’t win shit.
The only times that offenses as bad as the Bulls have won championships in the past 20 years are the 04 Pistons and the 94 Rockets. I think most people believe those teams were pretty fortunate. I’d rather have a better team than doesn’t need to rely on luck or once-a-decade anomalies to get a championship.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
We all agree we need more scoring..
We don’t need it an undersized, overpaid package though, on a roster that already has big contracts. It makes no sense.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 10, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
I guess I don't understand the thought:
“I’d rather the team be worse now* than be better now with potentially badness in the future.” I don’t think you’re taking into consideration that the team’s chances of winning it all increase. If that happens, big contracts matter less. And I guess we just put the odds on finding cheap young scorers and differently.
I mean, who really cares about contracts? It’s 3 years, not 7. They won’t be hampered forever, and yet, they’re going to be better now. It’s not like we’re fans of the Bobcats or Grizzlies we’re talking about mortgaging the future.
To me, the benefit clearly outweighs the cost.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
that would be an awful trade for the bulls.
detroit would be thrilled if anyone would take on ben gordon’s remaining contract. no return necessary.
he’s not worth the cash, let alone giving away anything of value. the bulls, fortunately, don’t have a contract bad enough to be considering taking on ben gordon’s. i like bg7, but detroit would have to give the bullls half the cash for this deal to be worth talking about.
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by MarketMaker on Jan 9, 2011 1:28 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I mentioned this in another thread, so I'll just repost
The Bulls evinced a very personal disinterest in Ben Gordon… one that even guys like KC Johnson and Sam Smith seemed to make note of in various ways. So I think hell will freeze over before that happens.
While I’m speculating, I mentioned in a post that got destroyed that the Bulls seem to have very little interest in Melo. I also notice that Melo and the aforementioned former Bull share the same agent, and there were rumblings that the Bulls didn’t like him much. Maybe because he asked for and got better offers for his client, which is, you know, what agents are legally and ethically obligated to do. But I digress.
BullsTwo > Back up and running!
An offer the Pistons now regret..
by Grinder in Training on Jan 9, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
maybe
but they should be regretting Hamilton’s more
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Why?
Both basically the same production right now for nearly the same amount (Hamilton paid 2 million more this year, but only one mil. more next year, and the same amount two years from now) and Gordon has an extra year left. As he’ll obviously take the player option as no one would ever overpay that much for him again.
You’ll notice the Nets aren’t asking for Ben Gordon, they’re asking for Rip Hamilton.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 10, 2011 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
Probably because Carmelo Anthony and his agent are doing the talent evaluation
Hamilton is the bigger name and Melo probably would rather play with him. I would much rather have Gordon than Hamilton at this point. And BG is just entering his prime. Hamilton is only going to get worse.
You have to keep BG an extra year.
Who wants to pay him that much money 3 years from now? Hell, no one wants to pay him that much money this year.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 10, 2011 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
I would rather have BG for 3 more years than Rip for 2 more years
BG’s contract isn’t good. I don’t think anyone would argue that it is. But, you don’t get a good player for free unless he has a bad contract. But, Hamilton is only getting worse and isn’t even as good this year.
I know that BG is having a bad season, but I think he is still talented and fits what the Bulls need in a 2 guard.
is it possible his injuries last year
left more lasting damage than we realize? Maybe that explains his bad season so far
maybe Detroit is offering Rip Hamilton
and would rather keep Ben Gordon. That makes the most sense when you consider all they receiving back is an expiring contract.
It also should be noted that Rip and Melo have the same agent and that Melo’s agent is the driving force trying to get Rip into NJ, not the Nets who are just looking for somebody to take Troy Murphy off their hands.
by Basketball Smurf on Jan 10, 2011 12:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That seems to be the obvious point to me.
Also, Rip and Chauncy Billups are good buddies, and it appears the Nets are going to have to do some appeasing to get Billups to be a happy camper there.
So basically, there are lots of reasons. The Pistons would probably prefer to keep the younger Gordon to the older Rip. The Nets want Rip because he appeases the other players they’re trying to acquire for personal reasons.
BullsTwo > Back up and running!
I think Gordon would be a good fit.
But the way he is playing in Detroit is pretty scary. But that is a cancerous place to play, if we can get the Detroit out of him, I think there aren’t too many better fits next to Rose at the shooting guard position.
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No D
and that’s partially because he’s too short.
I think Bogans was the right idea = defensive minded 3 point shooter
Only problem is that he apparently forgot how to shoot the three (I’m aware he was never incredible but his career averages paint a picture of a better player than he is now).
I slightly favor defense over offense in general – that whole defense wins championships bit…..don’t get me wrong, I love a great offense, but I think
||great defense + serviceable offense > great offense + serviceable defense||
(I understand this is a highly subjective statement)
I already consider Boozer a defensive liability. Rose is improving, I would say above average now. Joakim is good (except against really big guys, of course) Luol gets it done defensively night in and night out.
Bogans is ok on defense. (better than boozer)
I think BG’s D is like a sieve, and then we would have that annoying undersized backcourt bs going on again.
I think Gordon is probably pretty equal to Bogans on defense.
Gordon posted a d-rtg of 103 his rookie and third seasons, which were the 47 and 49 win teams. Neither of those defenses was quite as good as this one.
There’s no argument for this with Bogans. Gordon is probably his equal on defense, but he keeps the defense on their toes, and gives Rose and Boozer more space to operate.
There is an argument to be made with Ronnie Brewer though.
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I would have thought that at the beginning of the season
I was never behind keeping BG around, but after watching this team we need a Ben Gordon-type. He can do two things (1) he can space the floor for Rose when they play together and (2) he can carry the second unit when Thibs does his hockey subs thing.
Bogans is a pretty crappy defender really. Way overrated if you actually watch him. He has trouble staying in front of his man, and nobody has a hard time shooting over him.
by JSB on Jan 9, 2011 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
I miss those moments.
But not enough to bring him back.
And please stop with the Ray Allen comps, Ray’s a potential HOFer, BG isn’t close. You can teach defense but you can’t teach height.
"What do you think, I just dunked my whole career?" Jordan asked Henderson after making a 3.
"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
"That’s what Cleveland said," replied Jordan
as posted in other BG related thread.
Anagram time !
BlogaBull = BG Luol Lab.
Cos you’re all like a bunch of scientists trying to figure out how to get rid of Deng and bring in BG.
Boom! Asik, Asik, Asik the room.
by mrdope on Jan 9, 2011 11:58 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
let's get BG in and not get rid of Deng
wait, let’s just get rid of Bogans and add … somebody, I honestly don’t care who
The Miami Heat: Like ants and a magnifying glass. ... OH NO! CHRIS BOSH’S BEAUTIFUL FACE!!!!!!!!
you know i'd be all over this
i’d get brewer in the starting lineup though and have Gordon as the designated 6th man. we’d need to see about getting a backup PG immediately though (time to finally call up kyle weaver). bynum is way too expensive to take back in that deal.
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Kyle Weaver
Why did they let him go and then call back Lucas??? Weaver for me is better than CJ as running the team!
by sharpshooter5 on Jan 12, 2011 6:48 AM CST up reply actions
From what I read it was disciplinary issues
Did you vote for the ASG today?
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 12, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
Damn
That makes sense as his performance in pre season looked solid!
by sharpshooter5 on Jan 14, 2011 7:06 AM CST up reply actions
Yep
aint happening…good links tho bro
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by SoulEater7 on Jan 11, 2011 10:39 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
lol
as I just said above. Maybe where he plays is important. Coming back worked for Hedo
Did you vote for the ASG today?
by JustAnotherFan on Jan 11, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
He plays small. That's what's important.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 11, 2011 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
Seriously?
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
It happens.
Every one of us has stepped out for something that seems like a good idea at the time. Just wait till Kirky hits the tank, lotta people (myself included) will be typing this too.
"What do you think, I just dunked my whole career?" Jordan asked Henderson after making a 3.
"You’ve got to miss eventually," Henderson told him.
"That’s what Cleveland said," replied Jordan
by MRubio52 on Jan 11, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah No!!!!
Thib would go crazy with the way Gordon plays defense and would probably come off the bench behind brewer……and yes, Bogans still would be starting, because of the hall of fame defense he plays…….or is it, Thib love feast for Bogans……lol
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