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Insider only. He has the Bulls winning 48. Individual forecasts not up yet.

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Hollinger is just a numbers guy

I’ve never read anything of his that reveals any sort of bias he has. What are you basing this on?

by diedaily23 on Sep 27, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

People don't like when his numbers don't like their teams

Dallas fans in particular hate the guy, but their team never does anything in the playoffs to prove him wrong. I’ll never understand it either.

by madcow256 on Sep 29, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes. It's personal.

All of his predictions and insight arise purely out of his opinions of the people who make up the teams.

by msquared10 on Sep 27, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn.

"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"

by ColonelFatheart on Sep 27, 2010 1:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I dunno, almost 50 wins seems about right to me.

He also has the Bucks finishing better than us, which I don’t see at all. Has this been a common prediction?

by potato0328 on Sep 27, 2010 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

the argument mostly is wehther you think we will come together as a team fast enough

the bucks basically have their entire roster back with some added firepower for the bench

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Sep 27, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

no he didnt

you said 82-0

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Sep 27, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hollinger makes good points:
The wing players as a group are a grade below what’s found on most contending teams, and any injuries to the historically fragile Noah-Boozer combo will blow open a crater in the frontcourt rotation.

Maybe I shouldn’t hate Taj so much.

by diedaily23 on Sep 27, 2010 1:33 PM CDT reply actions  

I wouldn't say they're a grade below

but I do think this team is still one really good shooting guard from being a great team. 48 wins sounds about right.

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Sep 27, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Brewer is the only weak point as far as the wings and he’s not terrible just not very good offensively. 48 wins does sound about right….52 if everything goes perfect and there’s no major injuries.

by C Smoove on Sep 27, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

he said a grade below contending teams

contending teams – Boston (Allen, Pierce); Lakers (Artest, Bryant); Miami (Wade, Bron); Orlando (Vince Carter, Reddick, Lewis, Pietrus); Denver (Melo, J.R Smith, Affalo); OKC (Harden, Sefo, Durant); Portland (Roy, Batum, Matthews, Fernandez)

How aren’t Deng, Brewer, Korver, James Johnson a grade below these groups?

by Basketball Smurf on Sep 27, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can't just look at lists of players in isolation.

Our wings fit poorly with the rest of our talent. Brewer can’t shoot and Korver can’t really guard SGs. Deng himself isn’t a perfect fit because he refuses to shoot 3s, and Johnson really can’t be considered a contributor in any sense. Hollinger’s prediction doesn’t go above 50, because our guards (we can include Rose in here, since his lack of shooting is part of the problem) are less than the sum of their parts and our frontcourt is very thin.

(Plus, Deng, Brewer, Korver, and Johnson are a grade below those guys. Quite clearly.)

by msquared10 on Sep 27, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think you reach the same conclusion i did

that the Bulls are a step below other contending teams at the wing position.

by Basketball Smurf on Sep 27, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

you know whos a wing player thats not a grade below whats found on most contending teams......

it starts with m and rhymes with yellow

This may go down as the most retarded decade in NBA history.

by sin on Sep 27, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure Noah is historically fragile. Maybe Deng, though.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Sep 28, 2010 7:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

He doesn't seem that off, really

It’s kind of funny when people get pissed at Hollinger almost out of habit now. I think I’ve read nearly everything he said on BaB at one point or another.

by wjb1492 on Sep 27, 2010 2:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I've thought fifty would be a slight stretch all along.

48 seems good. But they added Boozer, Korver, Brewer, Watson!!! And Noah and Rose are going to be better! And Hinrich, Miller and Thomas didn’t bring ANYTHING to the 41 wins, right?

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Sep 28, 2010 7:24 AM CDT reply actions  

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