Bulls add Bogans, still looking towards Rudy Fernandez

While it would be nice to add a wing player like Rudy Fernandez I like that the Bulls have leverage in this.You don’t reward Portland by giving them Taj Gibson. Thats just bad business because Portland has been notoriously difficult to deal with. You can’t reward that. It’s a take it or leave it kinda deal.

taj and rudy are both 25, have 13.8 – 14.4 PERs that drop off in the playoffs, made their all-rookie teams (taj a 1st) and have similar rookie salaries as the 24th and 26th picks.

i think rudy has a potentially higher ceiling, but he’s a running wing that bombs threes. young 4s that can play are usually valued more highly in the nba.

portland has three layers of depth, they could actually have rudy fly back to spain this year and not even miss him. the bulls would miss taj as their first big off the bench.

at the risk of sounding like the blazers’ gm in 1984 (geoff petrie?) when discussing mj, doesn’t dante cunningham (drexler) give them most of what taj would anyway?

(wow, a taj/mj parallel!)

The Bulls are the most unreasonable team in the league to deal with. I really can’t stand them and their “our owner buys first round picks” fans are equally as obnoxious as their FO.

if they are asking for Taj, they will be asking for a starter-calibur young big for a starter-calibur young perimeter player in Rudy. This doesn’t seem that unreasonable.

On the other hand, Taj has actually played quality starters’ minutes while Rudy has not. Not only that, but quality bigs seem much harder to find than quality perimeter players.

I don’t think the Bulls need to give up Taj just yet, but I also think that Rudy can be a star in this league. I hope the Bulls get him eventually!

A first round pick from the Bulls (unless it’s the Bobcat’s pick) is likely to be very low. Portland buys one of those almost every draft. They paid cash to get the Hornets pick two seasons ago and then again paid cash to move up ten spots last draft.
Basically the Bulls pick (probably in the 20’s) is worth about 3 million in cash, which is approximately what the Blazers would save just by GIVING Rudy to the Bulls. To some cash conscious teams that might be worth something, but Paul Allen just paid a couple million for an extra second round pick. He doesn’t care about saving 3 million.
Trading Rudy for a low first round pick is almost the same as giving him away. His value can’t possibly drop below free.
Also, the market can’t get any smaller. The Mavs just lost Rodrigue Beaubois to a foot injury. There’s a great possibility that more teams will be in need of a starting caliber SG by the trade deadline.

He must be off today.

less. Rundy decient, but like I said earlier he aint worth that Bobcat pick,…….let alone Taj.

Epic fail!

it….Lets not do the dummy by trading them that pick for this dude. He’s a sketchy defender and he whines like a mule off the court. I wouldn’t mine having him but he aint worth all that……period.

I still like T-Mac as well….I think its very important to have a player that can give 3-4 explosions off the bench in the post season. He doesn’t need 6-10 shots he can do some play making and the stage isn’t too big for him. (at least in that role)

Had the Bulls actually signed Samuels they could’ve used him as leverage to trade for Fernandez. But they let him go to Cleveland. This organization just doesn’t have the foresight to do these kind of things.

Rudy has talent, but the only thing he’s proven he can do well in the NBA is hit the 3. Rudy needs to take better percentage shots, improve his defense, improve his ball handling, and not be afraid to go to the rim in the NBA. Rudy can improve his game, especially given he’s 6’6 and athleticaly talented. But, is Rudy motivated to improve his game or does he want to just give up and go back to Spain? I don’t know. That is why I would not trade Taj for Rudy. Taj is a proven NBA Starting Power Forward willing to improve his game and will be in the NBA for a very long time. Rudy is a risk for any team that gets him and is a work in progress shooting gaurd. Rudy is not part of Portland’s regular rotation anymore and if Portland does not want the Bulls generous offer of a first round pick for Rudy, then Bulls should just move on. Bulls will be fine with D. Rose and Boozer.

If Bulls get Rudy, they’ll become a basketball junkie’s wet dream.

Right now, that team is OKC with Chicago being a close second.

Rudy puts them ahead

He avg .388 3 pt % in his career and can be a playmaker. He gets 2.3 mil next year and would be 3rd SG on roster behind Derozen/Barbosa and possibly Weems.

May still have enough money to trade just a 2nd round draft pick for him?

Clearly we have a deficiency at three point shooting that will take marked improvements from Rose, Deng, Watson (at least from last season) plus a strong year from Korver to even get us to ‘not the worst’ but we look to be one of the better defenses in the league next year and Taj will be a big reason why. If Rose steps it up (which he clearly is capable of doing) and Thibs lives up to his pedigree, we could be a top three defense; shooting can always be bought.

But anyway yfBB, I’m i near complete agreement, as per usual.

Sources say T-Mac might end up with Pistons

This offseason is so long that people are hyperventilating about adding bench players.

Boozer has his injury history and it might not show up this season but down the line it’s just going to happen and Taj is going to have to fill in.

I’m not sure if Rudy fits into Tom’s plans. He is an offense and steals oriented two guard who does not defend one-on-one all that well. Maybe he could be integrated into a team defensive scheme under Tibs, but that remains to be seen. On the other hand, Rudy playing next to Rose could be dynamic offensively, so I hope the Bulls don’t give up on the idea without considering the possible positive contributions that Rudy could make to the team.

I totally agree with xFIB. we need taj cause if boozer goes down for any time we need a pf who has had some success. This bulls team honestly reminds me of the pistons team just that they are not those retarded pistons, If we can get rudy i would be happy. the thing i am worried about is if he does not get the minutes he demands then what happens. We had tyrus, gray(the scrub), tim thomas, hughes, etc all complain of no minutes. i just think that johnson who was drafted higher than taj did not mess with chemistry by complaining. It took noah two whole years before he became my favorite player on this team. rudy is not going to be in our future plans so why mess with it now. Brewer is our starting 2 and that was already promised him. why mess with it. lets see what happens. we are worried about miami but lets these guys gel and play team ball. as is we can beat boston, atlanta, and orlando. in the east. I see us in the finals against orlando or miami.

Just went through the agents left for the start of the season. Bogans looks pretty good from the lot left. The big men left boone,kwame and amundsen are pretty much it. But if rudy comes through good if not then i would go for amundsen. alot of energy goes a long way especially when we have a noah on our team. man the bulls are going to be good this year.

played in a very slow McMillan system. Rudy is at his best in a faster offense. His rookie year was really good because he played on the second unit which had more emphasis on running the ball ahead with S. Rodriguez at the PG position. I am not sure about how your system is but if Rose likes to push the ball ahead a lot then Rudy is a great asset, especially since Rose can catch defences off guard during transition and catch Rudy for open 3s all day, plus Rudy can make plays in transition himself. During half court offense, Rudy is still really good at running off screens, so he isnt completely depended on one style of play

Rookie year 40% 3s. 160 3s playing 25 mins a game. and 10.5pts a game is pretty good for a bench rookie.

I’ve been checking back here almost everyday to see somthing new emerge.