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Thibodeau can talk, and does so on McGrady, Pete Myers, LeBron James, etc.

You know what makes for a happy Friday? Hearing Tom Thibodeau talk basketball. While I'm still wary of yet another first-time head coach, the confidence I have in him is so much different than with VDN, simply by hearing them. With Del Negro, I was always from a starting point of "ya know, this guy may be completely in over his head". And while Thibodeau may turn out to be similar, it at least doesn't sound like it. 

Wide-ranging interview here, appropriate since it's his first such appearance since he took the job. Some stuff on:

  • The free-agency chase, and the genuine (he thought) interest from both James and Wade.
  • Who's been in and out of Deerfield (Taj, Noah, Rose) and some on his time with Rose in Vegas with team USA.
  • McGrady's workout, and interesting that Thibs mentioned the need for the Bulls to get 'a shooter', yet also (correctly) wouldn't put McGrady in that category. 
  • Larry Johnson thing was real, but now not happening.
  • Came in under the expectation that he'd get to hire an all-new staff. Gave Pete Myers a second look but ultimately decided to go with the fresh start. 
  • Some stuff at the end on Shaq and the Celtics, and how they'll really miss Kendrick Perkins.

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Tom sounds like a coach

That interview puts the nail in the coffin for McGrady to the Bulls.

Wade keeping his options open just in case Lebron changed his mind of joining them in Miami? Maybe, but he still hasn’t been genuine to Chicagos fans.

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Aug 6, 2010 11:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Regarding McGrady, what makes you think it's over?

He just echoed everything we’ve heard about their interest over the last week. Nothing he said make me feel any different

by Option27 on Aug 6, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think the part

where he said he was good but not a fit for this team

All I want in life is for UC fans to chant: Deeeeeloooonte during Heat games

by Belize on Aug 6, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah when he mentioned that tidbit at the end of the topic

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Aug 6, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

He said 'not necessarily'

Didn’t he?

I don’t remember him specifically saying he wasn’t a good fit for the Bulls

by Option27 on Aug 6, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here is the quote from the article -

Asked whether he could help the Bulls, Thibodeau did not sound optimistic. “I don’t know specifically our team,” he said. “I think how things play out, we’re still weighing it as a possibility. We haven’t ruled it out, but again we feel we have to add more shooting. So right now, that’s what we’re putting a premium on.

What do you expect him to say: “McGrady fucking sucks. Next!” It sounds like he was being diplomatic. He identified what the Bulls needed and than said McGrady doesn’t fit that role.

by Basketball Smurf on Aug 6, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I'm not saying it's likely. I'm just saying that the news remains the same
"I don’t know specifically our team,"

He could have just said “we’re looking in another direction.”

by Option27 on Aug 6, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably does not want to close the book on McGrady

and sees him as a last option. And that’s a pretty good last option, IMO. I would rather have him than Bogans.

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 6, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well TOO BAD.

Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!

by Prevenge on Aug 7, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends on your perspective certainly

but when I heard him speak about McGrady I took it mainly as him continuing to tow the company line and do a solid for JR’s BFF who happens to be McGrady’s agent.

by reprisal on Aug 6, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

McGrady needs a lot of shots and I think Thibs doesn't want that from the well-worn McGrady at this point.

I think he did say that he could be a playmaker and I think his role would be leading the bench when Rose is off the floor. Having someone who can make plays for the 2nd string is a need that has not been filled yet.

Semper Fi

by ChicagoMarine on Aug 6, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still don’t think T-Mac needs a lot of shots. In NY he wasn’t really trying to play the hero. I think hes always been pretty good at sharing the ball too.

"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw

by Camry on Aug 7, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Take a look at 2009-2010 game log.

You will see what I am referring to.

McGrady still has the mentality that he has the “green light” and that could be dangerous for a guy who fels he should start instead of come off the bench.

He’s a great facilitator of the ball as Thibs pointed out, but he has to understand that he can’t be the focal point of the offense anymore.

I don’t think he accepts that at this point.

Semper Fi

by ChicagoMarine on Aug 9, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope this ends all the talk about the Bulls roster being set

the head coach acknowledges the team needs another shooter. If the player is good enough, they will get minutes. Of the guys available, I’d want 1. Rudy 2. West 3. Bogans.

by Basketball Smurf on Aug 6, 2010 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Yea, that was the main thing I took from the interview,

besides the fact that Thibs sounding really good, the Bulls are not done, and know they need more shooting.

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 6, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fabulous

"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub

by Trey23 on Aug 6, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

that should be our tagline

All I want in life is for UC fans to chant: Deeeeeloooonte during Heat games

by Belize on Aug 6, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not that Reinsdorf's opinion is exactly highly regarded in these parts...

but after we didn’t land LeBron or any of the big three I took a grain of salt from something Jerry said in an interview about the process afterward. Something along the lines of how impressive Thibs was when talking basketball with LeBron. Could just be Jerry pumping up his latest hire, but from everything reported about the guy, it sure seems he is a basketball wonk to the highest degree.

Makes sense really. He’s pretty much devoted his entire life to the game. No wife or family to split it with.

by bleigh82 on Aug 6, 2010 12:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh how I miss the days 1 month ago

Where Yfbb, etc would post something decent on here even if it was about say a Ronnie Brewer, and within an hour we’d have 700 posts…..

Too little to talk about, nice link though…..

I want the season to start.

2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....

by majoyenrac on Aug 6, 2010 12:51 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Yea i never contributed to those massive threads

just tried to keep up with the reading

Did you guys hear about the new Lebron James Iphone?
You have to keep it on vibrate because it has no rings.

by Rudey on Aug 6, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ditto

A lovely story:

One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....

But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.

The end

by sue369 on Aug 7, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just miss that there was a ton of action on this site.

I hate the offseason….

2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....

by majoyenrac on Aug 6, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most of that action

Was nonsense though.

Remember those kids that just trolled the shit outta this place?

Not worth missing

by Option27 on Aug 6, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

yeah

It got old really fast. I only get a few minutes now a again when work slows down to come over here. It was hard to filter through the BS.

by 72-10 on Aug 6, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

See I'm in finacne

Running crap all the time that slows my excel (I work with huge 50MB files quite a bit), and there’s time when it’s down where it’s fun to come here while that calcs.

I didn’t keep up then either all the time, but it was fun when I have a calc going on to have somethign going on here.

2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....

by majoyenrac on Aug 6, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

thats why i didnt even post anything. not worth it…. just read the headlines. so much better off now.

Practice beats talent when talent doesn't practice.

by iamsasquatch on Aug 6, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's still nonsense

That is fun to read when others erupt discussions about that nonsense.

Or when one of the nonsense folks right something to challenge a YaoPau, etc and are quickly shot down :).

2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....

by majoyenrac on Aug 6, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glad those are over.

Too many idiots.

In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).

Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.

by tyger1147 on Aug 6, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just listened to the interview

Absolutely love the guy. I’m sure the honeymoon will end – at some point he’ll make a rotation decision in favor of a Blog-a-Bull Goat of the Day™ and subsequently earn some scorn around these parts – but I’m definitely stoked for the season to start and optimistic about his ability to maximize the team’s talents.

I also hope we can get Rudy Fernandez. With the SG options now at Fernandez or Keith Bogans, the difference between Rudy and the alternatives is relatively large (given that we’re largely down to roster filler). Give up one of our first-round picks for Rudy and get it over with already!

"You can't be afraid to play somebody because they've got 3 really good players. How are you going to win if you're afraid to play? We're not going to be afraid to play - we're going to fight, we're going to attack, we're going to throw it out there and see what happens." - Carlos Boozer

by Jivas on Aug 6, 2010 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm fine with Bogans

Honestly, if Tom likes the summer league guy’s I’d be fine with one of them and save the cap room for a mid season trade. The bullies are a good team as it is and someone will be available mid season…. let’s make sure we’re in a position to take advantage of that!

by 72-10 on Aug 6, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

no, Thibs thought Pete Myers sucked

the organization just reassigned him as far as I know.

by Basketball Smurf on Aug 6, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

that thibs is a smart guy

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Aug 6, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

hahahahaha
have Rose at the end of the game

by JustAnotherFan on Aug 6, 2010 1:18 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Funny how when Thibs got the joke he started cracking up.

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Aug 6, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think

he actually missed the joke because as a real coach its a given for him to have rose close games out…the fact that somoene tells him to do it probably just doesnt even register cause ist a freaken no brainer

by Gogiman on Aug 6, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think he believed the James & Wade talks

… I think it was just dressing for the radio as to not “poo-poo” on marquee players.

He said they considered but chose what was best for their careers and— literally— left it at that.

Semper Fi

by ChicagoMarine on Aug 6, 2010 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

What the Thibs sounds completely different than I expected o-o
First I thought this interview was a joke or something.

"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw

by Camry on Aug 7, 2010 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Honestly I think it could be a mistake

Not to sign T-Mac. Don’t you always want one of those X-factor players on your bench for the playoffs. If T-Mac could give 2-4 explosions off the bench in the playoffs I think thats really important.

Plus if hes getting like 15 minutes a game or something his shooting would be fine. I’d like him in a line up with Watson and Korver/Brewer.

"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw

by Camry on Aug 7, 2010 5:14 PM CDT reply actions  

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