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Team U.S.A. vs. Croatia, Open Thread

Let the games begin! If you are already watching, Derrick Rose has already been referred to as `The Catalyst.` A perfect word choice for the first game for the U.S. of the Preliminary Rounds as well as for probably the fastest man in the entire tournament. These games count so let us hope they go all out from the opening tip.

 

Game can be found on ESPN Classic (really?) and ESPN 3. Replay tonight on ESPN 2. 

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Yeah, where is ESPN Classic on Directv? Thanks in advance

If I don’t get it, i’m gonna be royally pissed

"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub

by Trey23 on Aug 28, 2010 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

INstead ESPN is giving us a WNBA game and high school football?

"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub

by Trey23 on Aug 28, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

its like 606

i don’t get it on my direct tv

by Basketball Smurf on Aug 28, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let's do this!!!

That Greece-China game had more jab steps/ball fakes than a John Salmons concert/

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 11:07 AM CDT reply actions  

lol, I was waiting for someone else to do it.

I only woke up 5 minutes before game time. :P I can’t believe the game is at 6:30am my time tomorrow. Of course, I don’t want to miss Rose dunking on Dragic again.

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 28, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

just tuned in

hows rose doing

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:17 AM CDT reply actions  

oooo rose with that damn floater

so pretty

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:20 AM CDT reply actions  

giant killer

reminds me of BG’s but the angles and positions he hits it from are just so much more ridiculous.

by ChicagoSizzle on Aug 28, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

i like how rose does it like from a grounded stance and not like leaning in or high in the air

hes just like barely off the floor when he releases it. and the arc on it is so pretty

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

team usa with no 5 beside Chandler and Odom

is going to kill us. Coach K has to play Love for the rebounding

by Basketball Smurf on Aug 28, 2010 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

stupid dwight howard where the fuck is his ass

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

or Tim Duncan?

i know he hates international play, but man, his low post game with this team would be crazy

by Basketball Smurf on Aug 28, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

too old. he can barely hold up during an nba season.

he’d die if he played in the summer too

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

he is virgin islands, not usa

The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"

by marionette on Aug 28, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

never mind, i'm a little bit drunk tonight

The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"

by marionette on Aug 28, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rose is the best player out there

is this not completely obvious?

Did you guys hear about the new Lebron James Iphone?
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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:28 AM CDT reply actions  

i really hope he starts getting some more credit

and then i hope he eventually becomes the leader of this team by the end of the tournament

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have to disagree...

Durant is still the better player. However, Rose is not as far behind as most people seem to think

by ChiTownSportsMaster on Aug 28, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

thats true

but rose is the better player so far today i think

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

In these games

Durant hasnt showed to be the better player

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Im saying this more then saying he is just

“the better player”

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

gawd

rose with a jumpshot. that scary scary scary thought is coming true

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:28 AM CDT reply actions  

I missed the beginning of the first quarter

didnt see rose before he went to the bench, I have seen the 2 floaters and 3pt make but anyone else see what happened before?

Anyone with a guess stat line?

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

he has 9 pts i believe

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

ty sir

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

rose giving croatia the business

thats how they play it in the playgounds of chicago europeans

by MCREW on Aug 28, 2010 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

this is retarded

fouling is ruining any chance of rose destroying on the fastbreak

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

great assist

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by swishh on Aug 28, 2010 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

it really makes me smile that rose decided to pick number 6

you gotta believe he picked that number on purpose. i hope he doesnt give it up to lebron in 2012 olympics

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

nuuuuuuuuuu

rose with 2 fouls in like 5 seconds?

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

international star treatment!

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I missed it up till now

wat interesting things happened with rose?

by cowraiser on Aug 28, 2010 11:38 AM CDT reply actions  

lots

A couple of nice floaters, 1-2 from three, great assist and a Westbrook fast break dunk, and to my eyes some good D. 9 points.

by Bryan_ on Aug 28, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

His D looks better

but it never looks great compared to the other guards (not counting Curry), he gets caught up on screens still but he looks like he puts in alot more effort.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

ooo love getting some time

its about time they used him

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

lol what happened to Love on that easy 2?

The Croatian guy didn’t even touch him OR the ball

"Freeze it!... now roll it!" -Stacey King, greatest analyst ever.

by WalmartSecurity on Aug 28, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

he hit the rim i believe

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rose with a couple misses now.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Would you give up Korver for Gordon?

"Freeze it!... now roll it!" -Stacey King, greatest analyst ever.

by WalmartSecurity on Aug 28, 2010 11:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Eric, that is, for those of you that still can't move on

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by WalmartSecurity on Aug 28, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course

not much of a hesitation, he is the much better all around player

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

the clips might be retarded enough to do it!

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

lmao

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by WalmartSecurity on Aug 28, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

eh, its not like Vinny is doing any real coaching

i’m sure they’ll manage to score a lot of points while they run/attack

by darksmokepuncher on Aug 28, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Always been a Gordon fan

loved him at Indiana and always thought he wasnt getting enough credit in the NBA.

He is lights out.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

he plays for the clips

he aint getting credit until he leaves that shithole

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

This will toss him into the light

and with ESPN going crazy over whatever Griffin does will help Gordon as well.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its pretty funny looking at the clips lineup this year

and seeing how well they can play, VDN walked into another easy situation.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Kaman, Gordon, Baron, Griffin

That’s an 8th seed at the minimum, yeah?

by rainman1003 on Aug 28, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

west is alot deeper than east sadly

i dont think they make it

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

i cannot wait to see the lineups

and i cant wait to see him use baron as his new ben gordon at the end of games

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

You mean use Chris Kaman as the new Brad Miller

at the end of games

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

What if VDN was actually an offensive genius...

…and outsmarted Thibs in the Bulls-Celtics series?

Does that mean we’re screwed against the Clippers? Thibs is probably shaking at VDN’s 3-play offense, 2 of which are inbounds plays

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by WalmartSecurity on Aug 28, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lol

no

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Love is a rebound machine

Im sure thats how the whole season will feel for the bulls.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:46 AM CDT reply actions  

He's even a better outlet passer

Something the Bulls still lack

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by PeteRoc on Aug 28, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rose is a pretty good outlet passer

…but he can’t pass to himself

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by WalmartSecurity on Aug 28, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed....I hope Thibs stresses that to Jo and Booz

"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen." - Michael Jordan

by PeteRoc on Aug 28, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Soooo

how much more play time we gonna see for Rose?

Cause even when he got MVP of last game ESPN decided Durant/Gordon deserved all the air time, and I dont wanna see that BullShit again.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:49 AM CDT reply actions  

They play 5 games in 6 days

If this continues to be a blowout then I’d expect him to sit most of the 2nd half.

by patagonia on Aug 28, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

True story

good point

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

FYI, Omer Asik vs. Ivory Coast in 2 hours

I’ll be watching. I want to see what he currently looks like.

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 28, 2010 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Can someone clarify to me what Deng is playing in?

He is playing for GB but not in this tourney?

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

GB isn't in the tourney

He was just playing for the exhibitions.

by SpanishTechno on Aug 28, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

So he was just playing in pointless games?

I mean he played well and all, but they werent able to get in the tourney?

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think it was just training for the Olympics

that is why i was so ambivalent about him playing. they were just pointless exhibitions

by Basketball Smurf on Aug 28, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea pretty dumb

I wouldnt mind him playing against the US team if it meant something, but yea…a fresh Deng is important this season.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wasn't actually pointless. GB needed to finish top 2 of the group they were in in order to qualify for the

FIBA tourney next year. And I think they need to be in that tournament and do reasonably well in order to qualify for the Olympics.

by silentpete on Aug 28, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

FYI

GB sucks at basketball…

by BAB-Bass on Aug 28, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I missed it what happened?

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by WalmartSecurity on Aug 28, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

iggy

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

im about to scream everytime they foul on fastbreaks

god i wanna see some dunks

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 12:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Deng

would like to have a word with you

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL are you kidding me

that 7 foot Croatian Guy was shuffling down the baseline! HOW IS THAT NOT A TRAVEL

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by WalmartSecurity on Aug 28, 2010 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

i thought i was the only that saw that....

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know a C-walker when I see one

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by WalmartSecurity on Aug 28, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

their strict on dribble drives

but on big men, i’ve seen around 3 non-calls already

by trig on Aug 28, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

"That's bullshit man" -mouthed by Rose

I’ve never heard him swear lol

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by WalmartSecurity on Aug 28, 2010 12:09 PM CDT reply actions  

there was one time when he yelled to a teammate 'get that motherfucker'

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by swishh on Aug 28, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea he didnt swear at all his first year

but during the tourney ive seen him swearing alot.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

everybody's talking rose and durant

but big props to lamar. He’s been playing hard, getting his hands on a lot of loose balls and controlling the boards

by trig on Aug 28, 2010 12:12 PM CDT reply actions  

i feel bad for him

he has to guard huge ass guys this whole tournament

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's also sucked donkey nuts in exhibition

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by WalmartSecurity on Aug 28, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn Gordon

doing everything

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 12:14 PM CDT reply actions  

kevin love is a pleasure to watch

looks like hes always giving 100% effort out there. kinda reminds me of noah. but without the swagger which takes away half the fun

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 12:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Derrick Rose=Awesome

How are you guys watching the Turkey game? I tried watching that FIBA TV shit, but it was all messed up

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 12:18 PM CDT reply actions  

espn classic ftw

someone posted a link above the first comment

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

He said the turkey game though

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh oops haha

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea im trying to figure out how imma watch Asik play

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

*yawn* we probably arent seeing our boy the rest of the game

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 12:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep, it's a good thing, yet it sucks

I don’t know about you guys, but I’m loving this USA basketball stuff. There’s been basically no break in the action basketball wise since the season ended.

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah this was definitely one of the best (and worst) summers in a while

bball news all year round

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is even more awesome because I like every player on this team

The only player that bugged me a little was Westbrook, but that’s only because of my Rose homer love.

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 12:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Eww stream closed

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 12:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Watching this game in Standard Definitilon is really throwing me off

It’s almost like I’m not even watching a basketball game

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

im really interested in watching tiago spliter play

i wanna see how good this guy really is.
theyve been hyping him for years

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by sin on Aug 28, 2010 12:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Who is he playing for again?

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brazil

Which means they are going to be a tough match with Varejao and Barbosa as well.

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 28, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

spurs?

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by swishh on Aug 28, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

meant

in the tourney

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

brazilllllllll

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wonder if kevin love

throw long passes using medicine ball during practice

by trig on Aug 28, 2010 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah he acts like Europeans play the perfect game

its annoying. we know Team USA could lose. He doesn’t have to remind us after every highlight

by Basketball Smurf on Aug 28, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mentioned this when the US played France, I think.

It really is irritating.

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by Dash2112 on Aug 28, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

how can people claim Kevin Love is not a good outlet passer?

that was just nuts. I’d love to find a way for him to be here someday.

I keep going over it, like, Lebron or whoever used 06 & 08 as a chance to recruit. Let’s say Rose does too… who would he recruit?

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by dantheman3k on Aug 28, 2010 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

bleacher report?

"If I was to answer that question honestly, I would have to lie to you."

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by TheMoon on Aug 28, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

sign kevin love in a year

and trade boozer for a 2
championship

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Westbrook

damnnnn

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 12:43 PM CDT reply actions  

kevin love's post game really needs some work it seems

everything else he does pretty fucking well

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 12:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Eric Gordon is ballin

They need to drop him in the starting lineup and make Billups the backup 2

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

isnt he the same size as derrick?

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

he plays like derrick...?

he drives. he passes. iffy jump shot.
i dont see how that makes him a 2

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not that he can't play the point

I just don;t think he has the ball skills. He plays it like a more athletic, quicker Brandon Roy

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

why does westbrook look like hes still trying to prove something out there

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 12:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Just sticking it to the weak team

I do not particularly care for that, but it’s not like you can say ’don’t play so hard!’

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 28, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

its awesome. westbrook is all out all the time. sometimes that leads to great D and rebounding.

sometimes that leads to wild drives that never touch rim and passes into the 8th row. sometimes that leads to a few croats getting their throats stomped. its like a magic 8 ball.

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by TheMoon on Aug 28, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Switching over to Turkey/Ivory Coast

Watching Ass-kick play

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 12:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Asik

starting center for turkey.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:05 PM CDT reply actions  

First play

Asik flop lol

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:06 PM CDT reply actions  

espn3 feed here

http://espn.go.com/espn3/player?id=28740&league=FIBA

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Terrible FT's

lol

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thes jump shots are worse then anything ive ever seen

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Yea, so far the only team that scares me is Spain

Although Greece may have pulled the Rope-a-Dope

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea

they can both compete with the US team, but we still control our own fate.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed with everything you just said

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also keep the longer quarters

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

and the same ball :(

but otherwise the rules i like better

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea, forgot about that

same quarter length and ball too

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by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

14

Whitest looking dude :)

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some of the other guys have alittle color

we will just assume Asik is spending way2much time in the gym.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe the Ottomans

Used to make their conquered rivals in southern europe send new-borns as taxes (or tribute, if you will) down to present day Turkey. Could be that too.

by BAB-Bass on Aug 28, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dont see the muscle tbh

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do

And I like how active he is in the paint.

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 28, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love the guy calling this Turkey game

He’s clearly a hard-ass. And I like having only 1 guy in the booth. Most color guys suck anyway.

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 28, 2010 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm getting a kick out of the guy calling the Spain-France game

It sounds like it’s just some dude calling a basketball game from his dorm room or something. (Still better than Neil Funk btw. Although everything is)

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by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Switching over now

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Any idea on who is playing well ?

no box scores to be found i feel like.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with you man. It's kinda hard to tell

I haven’t seen any box scores and I have looked around a little bit

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by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol

turn it to the spain game just in time to see Rudy screw up. Close game! With Noah i doubt its close :)

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:49 PM CDT reply actions  

This is still a good showing for the French

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

France is missing Noah and Parker… (Yes, in that order ;D )

by BAB-Bass on Aug 28, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

:)

agreed

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dont let me ever hear that sarcasm

how dare you speak of the blazers this way? Everyone knows Blazers make the smartest moves.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everytime i click on the Tureky feed

i think im looking at Deng

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:56 PM CDT reply actions  

So which Gordon do you want?

Ben or Eric?

Please tell me you guys can make the right choice on this one.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Lets say same contract?

Id still choose Eric

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you would take Nash over Rose?

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nash is 36 years old. Ben Gordon is 26

and Eric Gordon is nowhere near Rose’s level in the NBA. You guys are making way too much of a guy kicking the crap out of a bad European team.

by Basketball Smurf on Aug 28, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I live in L.A. County

And therefore have seen Eric plenty of times. Again, no way I take Ben over Eric.

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 28, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

i live in la too

and eric is not THAT special.
not going to be a difference between the two

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Certainly not saying he is special

Just that I would rather have him than Ben on the Bulls. He’s more of the prototypical 2 guard than Ben is in that he has more size and can defend better (he’s not great now but after only 2 years in the league there is no reason his D will not improve.) There are few basketball players in the world who have better strokes from the perimeter than Ben, but Gordon is a good enough shooter and doesn’t have the iffy shot-selection that Ben has.

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 28, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't care about stats on this one, I'm using the eye test

Eric has been improperly used in LA. Also, he’s had a few injury issues. He’s a way better defender. I’d still take Eric in a heartbeat

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by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plenty of times at Indiana

multiple times in LA.

Id take Eric over Ben, he can do much more then Ben.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's actually one of the few players that I've seen a play in high school

and multiple games collegiately. Also, I have the package and have watched the Clips from time to time. I’m not saying it’s a no doubter that he’ll be better, but if you were to ask me which player I’d take (which Rudey did), Eric would be my guy.

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by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I figured it would be a discussion on this board

Dont see Ben getting any better, and Eric has already shown flashes of being better.

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I love Eric. The only thing that worries me is that he’s been a little injury prone. Other than that, I think he’s been used poorly in LA. Half of the battle for a good player is landing in the right spot. I think that BG got lucky in being drafted by the Bulls. He was able to provide exactly what we needed.

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by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well when/if he gets to that point cool but right now I’d take BG. We’ve seen enough of players who have “so much potential” and don’t unlock it.

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by Camry on Aug 28, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Comparing Ben from his last season with the Bulls to Eric last year

They have roughly equivalent TS%, but Ben took about 3 more shots per 36 (which was also his lowest number of attempts as a Bull). He had a better rebounding%, ast%, tov%, higher usg. Offensively it’s not even close. Ben is far superior.

Eric would have to be quite the defender to make up that gap.

by tuluse on Aug 29, 2010 4:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

ben is more versatile offensively and more potent because he can handle a higher usage while still

being as efficient or more than eric. ben is also better at running the point for spells. eric is a better defender.

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by TheMoon on Aug 28, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stopped watching

any updates?

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Turkey running away with it

Asik with a huge block. Getting hacked in the paint all day. Still can’t hit free throws but he is in on almost every board attempt. He seems to really enjoy playing down low.

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 28, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

26pts 14reb

for Yi today

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 2:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Gonna have to get up early tommorow to watch ugh

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 2:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Good game

Spain/France

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 2:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Dude just called Rudy's atempted dunk a "cram jam"

I have never heard that before. It is funny

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by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

he also used it during lithuania v canada

“AND HE GOES IN FOR A CRAM JAM!”

::guy misses cram jam, announcer starts whispering::

“oooh and he went to try a cram jam and missed!”

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by E-Grizzle on Aug 30, 2010 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rudy

acting like a child during an important part of the game, getting a pointless tech foul

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Lol nice inbound passing

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow, this guy is pure entertainment

How do I make that “LA BAMBAAAA!!!” call my ringtone

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by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

The crowd is pretty tame

It’s like a Bulls-Clippers game in December. I’m waiting for the Big Mac chants

Superteams suck.

by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Good game

I’m liking this tournament

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by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 28, 2010 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

same

cya tom.

830 am?

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Box Score available on the USABasketball sight

I can’t link it. My Mac keeps downloading the page. >_>

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 28, 2010 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Asik

8pts, 12 reb

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by Rudey on Aug 28, 2010 4:07 PM CDT reply actions  

He looked pretty good

Still doesn’t finish well at the basket and his FTs need work. But he was made for the paint and is not afraid to take a shot.
He will need time to adjust to the NBA game, but I expect him to be a productive player in the 2nd half of the season.

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 28, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

What about getting the shot?

i.e. post moves – yay or nay?

and i’m assuming his rebounding and defense were more than satisfactory?

by ChiTownSportsMaster on Aug 28, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Below average post moves

But got deep positioning regularly. He was all over the boards and he occupies a lot of space defensively.
He knows what to do on offense but has trouble executing sometimes.

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 28, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hm...yeah

that fits with what I’ve read about him. Thanks!

by ChiTownSportsMaster on Aug 28, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also, they were playing the Ivory Coast

Not exactly stout competition.
It will be fun when the U.S. matches up with Turkey. That is one huge team.

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 28, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

i expected a better looking boxscore out of rose based on the comments.

second game in a row where he didnt do much except shoot. i dont like that at all.

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by TheMoon on Aug 28, 2010 4:26 PM CDT reply actions  

He pretty much only played the first half

He’s not going to rack up 10 assists in any game. Too many iso players on USA. Gay and Iggy just do not move without the ball at all and their is no real interior presence to dish to.
Also, I read that Rose had 3 assists instead of two, but I guess that isn’t much of a difference anyway.

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 28, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

right. i just always compare him to westbrook to measure how hes doing, and westbrook

consistently does more in less time.

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by TheMoon on Aug 28, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, watch the games

Westbrook played all of the garbage time. He was impressive, but it was still garbage time

by Basketball Smurf on Aug 28, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do the same thing

It’s quite the battle to not do it though. Rose’s game is just different. Even with added shooters on the Bulls roster I would not be surprised if his assists per game only go up to 7. His greatness as a point guard will not be judged in point guard statistics, but in leadership and clutch play.

As long as his TS% goes up and his rebounds/assists go up a little bit I will be happy.

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 28, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

i thought coach k rested rose early

bringing in curry. that’s when croatia took a lead, but when rose returned, it was blown out.

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by marionette on Aug 29, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

im hearing spain lost....?

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 4:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep

But the commentary was the best part of the game.
Spain choked like you wouldn’t believe. Missed 15 free throws.

by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 28, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

WOW 15?????

holy fuck

from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"

by sin on Aug 28, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

shit

I don’t miss 15 free throws, and I suck.

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by dantheman3k on Aug 29, 2010 7:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

anyone judging derrick's performance off the box score isn't going to get an accurate picture

i thought derrick played a great game. he’s clearly the one running the offense and calling out plays and positioning players throughout the game offensively. he really looks like a leader out there and he’s the only player that consistently and efficiently keeps the ball in motion. I think his passing/court vision/reads all look outstanding. Coach K goes to Derrick just about everytime team USA is in a critical situation. I’d really give derrick a high grade for his performance thus far. I think a lot of people look at the box score and think that E Gordon might be the second best player on this team but during the game it is clear that if derrick isnt the most important player on the team, he’s at worst second most. Obv KD does the bulk of the scoring but Rose has been just as important. Also, DRose has thrown a bunch of alley oops which was something he needed to improve and did. I’m excited knowing that the Bulls will have some additional scoring threats this season after seeing the way that DRose has run the offense this summer.

by juicewolta on Aug 29, 2010 1:24 PM CDT reply actions  

hes been throwing alley oops?

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by TheMoon on Aug 29, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes, mostly on the break

i saw one to durant and another to I think Gay

by Basketball Smurf on Aug 29, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah. thats cool, but halfcourt ones would be cooler- even pargo threw alley oops in transition.

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