The week so far in what I should've blogged (a.k.a. know your fanposts/fanshots)
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 25, 2010 10:18 PM CDT
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PrintNot much new going on with the Bulls in these dog days of August. But a few small things are happenin', either on the sidebar or on my red-hot twitter account (when I'm not getting in twit-fights with other bloggers).
- Derrick Rose officially made the Team USA roster for the world championships, and seemingly will be starting. Only saw today's game against Greece sporadically, but hope to see a replay knowing Rose shot 6-7 and receiving this thing.
- The Bulls are going to erect a statue for the newly hall-of-famed Scottie Pippen at some point this season. The other statues currently at the UC are Jordan's and one of Johnny Red Kerr. And as pointed out in the comments of that post, this gave a Bulls employee has a hilariously sycophantic idea.
- Kelly Dwyer at Yahoo! has been doing his positional rankings this week, and Luol Deng checked in as the #8 SF. For more on Deng, check out Bulls By the Horns with an appreciation post. For yet more (!) on Luol, try and take the time to see this BBC piece on him returning to his native Sudan. Yet more on that here.
- The Bulls actually had two PFs in Dwyer's top-30, with Taj Gibson at #26 and Carlos Boozer at #6. And while ChicagoNow is still happy with the signing (as am I of course...could've been better, but really could've been worse) they point out the red flags in a guy whose former team (and their fans) seeming couldn't wait to get rid of.
- I'm guessing this will stay under the radar until it there's actual official movement, but Alex Kennedy (Poopsworld, yes: but he broke the CJ Watson signing) reports that Eric Musselman is up for the Bulls assistant position. He followed up that report with one saying Terry Porter was also in the mix. If I recall, Musselman is known as an offensive-minded coach, so that's a good thing. He and Porter have had similar head coaching careers: a first job with some unexpected success (to where you could argue they were unjustly fired) followed by a disastrous second chance. Musselman one-uped Porter with a DUI arrest.
- Earlier this week I gave my thoughts on Dwyane Wade and his relationship with Chicago to Pro Basketball Talk.
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Nice!
Thanks for the updates. That’s sweet for D-Rose. Should be a real good confidence boost for him!
I disagree with what you said to Pro Basketball Talk
about the Bulls being an afterthought behind the Bears and baseball in Chicago. I think Chicago, like every other bigger city with a multiple sports franchises, is a fairweather town. I don’t mean that in a bad way, just that the masses tend to jump on whatever team is going well.
I don’t buy the whole thing where people label a city a “Baseball town” or a “Football Town”. Unless it’s a place like Portland or Green Bay, where they really are just a one sport city. Even though the city is fairweather imo, that doesn’t mean people neglect the teams that are going bad. Just like we saw with the Bulls in the early 2000’s, people will maintain interest, but most of the attention will go to the teams that are winning. Just look at what happened this summer with the Lebron madness, that was THE story in Chicago, it was everywhere. People recognized that the Bulls could do something special, and everyone got on board.
It’s not a bad thing, actually I think that’s what makes cities like Chicago and New York great sports towns. Sure, every team in those cities has their die hards, and I’m sure there are more baseball and football die hards, but once a team in any sport starts doing well (Blackhawks are a great example of this), everybody will be ready to jump on. It all goes in cycles. Hopefully the Bulls are starting another run as one of the top teams in the city
Superteams suck.
Yes and no
It’s hard for me to envision a time when any team in this city will be more important than the Bears. And when the Cubs are winning I think they close the gap pretty well on the Bears in terms of popularity/following.
I’m 28 and I feel like a lot of Bulls fans my age and younger will just never be AS into the Bulls as they were during the 90’s. They just won’t. They could win the title next year but it’s still not what people remember so it’s not as good.
And the Hawks had to win the freaking Stanley Cup for people to really give a sh-t. And they probably won’t next year, and so back to being the fifth most important team in the town.
I basically think it’s 1. Bears 2. Cubs 3. Sox 4. Bulls 5. Hawks with only slight variation if one team is winning and the city is starved for it (Hawks).
i don't get your comment
Do you mean listening to the star spangled banner at one of the teams’ stadiums is an indication of how popular the team is?
Or are you just making a comment on patriotism or something?
If you're suggesting that the fans being loud
means Hockey is more popular than basketball now after one championship season, that’s just ridiculous. Yes, their fans are vocal, but they just won a championship, what do you expect?
Take a picture of the stadium during a Blackhawks game 4 years ago. Compare that to when the Bulls were bad.
It’s easy to fill up the stadium with loud fans when they are winning championships.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 26, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I get your point, I probably over sold 'always an afterthought'
but think of it as weather-neutral: if the Bulls are good and the Bears are good, it’s the Bears.
The Bulls have been ‘good’ the past two seasons but nobody really cares. Yes, if they were winning titles that changes things, obviously those grant park rallies weren’t due to the Blues Brothers.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 25, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I do agree with that
All things being equal (For example, every team is in first place), Bulls are definitely behind in the pecking order.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 25, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
This is how it works.. IMO
On the outside it’s a ‘Cub-town’ but thats just because it’s like the trendy thing.. another excuse to get drunk. Then a Bears town because everyone loves to watching massive men destroying their brains as the weather gets freaking cold. Then it’s a Bulls town but there are tons of closet Bulls fans.
Sox and Hawks it’s almost a toss up depends on who is playing well.
I almost wholeheartedly agree with yfbb on Bulls being an afterthought
and a lot of what he talked about was a comparison as to what is “perceived” by those on the outside. EVERYONE knows the Chicago Bulls and Micheal Jordan, internationally I’d say probably more so then any other American sports team. Baseball isn’t played outside of America and Japan, Football is an entirely different sport once you cross you go overseas. But going back to the point, everyone knows the Bulls and most people think Chicago is synonymous with Bulls but really the Bears and Cubs come first.
My point is more that
sports as a whole aren’t that segregated. Chicago is a SPORTS town, more than a Bears or Cubs or whatever town. People love all the teams basically, and get behind them almost all of the time. When you say “the Bulls are an afterthought”, it makes it sound like there’s hardly a fanbase, which is not the case. They might have a smaller group of “die-hard” fans, but the Bulls get a lot of love in this city, especially when they’re winning.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 26, 2010 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
well said
i’ve been living in the sf bay area the last several years, and that’s just a godawful sports town. the A’s routinely draw under 10,000 and i’ve been at warriors games where their fans start streaming out because they’re down by four with two minutes left. chicago fans support their teams and go to the games. it’s nice to see.
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same down in MIA
Fins sell no matter what, which is why i WOULD label Miami a football town. we love Fins and Canes. and even though sometimes the arena doesn’t show it, this town is basketball crazy, especially now. Marlins are just sad, and it sucks because if you really think about it, they have had an incredible history for a franchise thats not even 20-yrs-old. 2 titles, no-hitters (compared to Mets who have never had one), RoYs, fire sales, now this stadium scandal. i feel the fans are a bit jaded cuz of the threat they could leave (until now with new stadium) and SunLife stadium is too far and too hot to drive to 81 times a year. plus, rather chill at the beach in 100 degrees than watch baseball in 100 degrees.
the thigh bone is not connected to the free throw bone.- Shaquille O'Neal
by BULLieving in Miami on Aug 26, 2010 3:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i live in the Bay too
gotta disagree on the Warriors comment. those people are rabid considering the ownership/product that gets put out on the floor every year.
Dubs fans are WAY more passionate than Bulls fans and it’s not even really close.
Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.
-- Scottie Pippen
by Orlando Woolridge on Aug 27, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
WAY more passionate?
That’s just a stupid statement. There’s no way to compare fan bases. Chicago’s fan base in general is going to look less rabid if nothing else because our tickets are more expensive (nearly double what the Warriors tickets cost). The fans you see on TV at Bulls games are paying a lot more money than the ones you see at a Warriors game.
With more expensive tickets, you have an older, more affluent crowd. You would expect this group to be less vocal.
That doesn’t reflect at all on the fan base as a whole though. The fans that make up the Warriors “WAY more passionate” fan base just happen to be able to get in the building. If you put the Warriors seats at Bulls prices, you’d notice your fan base got a lot quieter too. If you cut Bulls tickets prices in half, you can be sure that Bulls games would get a lot rowdier. Just the nature of the beast.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 27, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
i'll stand by my statement
unfortunately the Bulls crowd is made up of fairweather scenesters who are there to be seen.
the Dubs fans are a bunch of hard-core, bordering on thugged out, dudes who stick with that team thru thick and thin.
your typical bulls fan is an armani-wearing yuppie who got his tickets comped by his law firm or financial group.
i’ve spent a lot of time at both, trust me.
Sometimes a player's greatest challenge is coming to grips with his role on the team.
-- Scottie Pippen
by Orlando Woolridge on Aug 27, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
with statements such as
hard-core, bordering on thugged out, dudes
how can we not trust you?
by diedaily23 on Aug 27, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not arguing that the fans you see at the games are different.
I’m arguing that’s because the fans who can get into Bulls games have more money than the fans who go to Warriors games. If the Bulls games were as cheap as Warriors games, I’m sure you’d see a more blue collar crowd at the United Center.
That doesn’t mean anything in regards to the fanbase as a whole. Only a very small % of fans go to games.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 27, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been a fan since I was old enough to find WGN by myself
and I’ve never even considered going to a game…it’s always been too expensive for me
I see what you mean by "afterthought"...
…and your right, the Bulls have actually a very solid fan base. Nationally its surprising how many non-Chicago Bulls fans there are. Definitely not the case for the Bears, but I guess NFL teams are much more married to their respective cities because of the way scheduling works and everything.
I get annoyed thinking about it locally. There’s no a reason a team like the Cubs, who haven’t won in 100+ years, or the Bears, whose accomplishments (aside from ‘85) aren’t really that impressive given how long they’ve been in existence, should have more fans than the Bulls.
I agree, living 15 minutes from NYC here in NJ and being a huge sports fan of the Yankees, Giants, and Rangers I see this example all the time. After the Yanks won the World Series last year the city was all about the Yankees. Three years ago the Giants won the Super Bowl and all anyone can talk about was 18-1 lol. Even though I was young I still remember the craze back in 94 when MSG had the NBA and NHL finals being played in it every other night. To this day our local sports channel that is owned by MSG and plays all Rangers and Knicks games play shows on the Spring of 94. Things change as teams go through their ups and downs but the real fans always sit through them all.
It’s not a bad thing, actually I think that’s what makes cities like Chicago and New York great sports towns. Sure, every team in those cities has their die hards, and I’m sure there are more baseball and football die hards, but once a team in any sport starts doing well (Blackhawks are a great example of this), everybody will be ready to jump on. It all goes in cycles. Hopefully the Bulls are starting another run as one of the top teams in the city
by bdasilva7785 on Aug 26, 2010 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry
It sucks but the Bulls are a current afterthought.
Granted if we get hot we’ll get some fairweather interest again, but there’s no reason the Bears and Cubs should be nearly this popular in this town when they correct me if I’m wrong never win anything anyway :).
Bulls are the winningest pro team in this city and are far from the collective minds of most Chicagoans…..heck even on the sports talk stations we are probably 4th on the radar….even before this recent Blackhawks surge.
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
If the Bulls won a championship, they'd vault to the most popular Chicago team
that’s my opinion.
by Stacey_Is_King on Aug 26, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
if this team wins a championship all it does is make people talk about the 90s team imo
from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"
I have to agree with this line here
“There are many Bulls fans who aren’t from Chicago and don’t care about the city aspect of it.”
I’m a Huge Bulls fan (why else would I be a member here at BAB and post in the middle of August lol) who lives and grew up in New Jersey. You can all say I found my love for the Bulls as a youngin back in the 90’s watching MJ and Pip win 6 rings. I honestly don’t care where anyone is originally from, but I do understand you guys pride yourselves in seeing D. Rose emerge as one of the NBA’s top pg because he not only plays in Chicago but was born and raised in the area. As for D. Wade screw him!!!!! We don’t need anyone who doesn’t wanna play for us whether he’s from Chicago or not. He’s a great player but I rather see the reigns handed to Derrick and have him take us to our next NBA title.
I was just rewatching that USA-Greece game
and I really got a kick out of the end when all the players were fucking with Rose while he was being handed that trophy. Then I was thinking, why do I find that interesting, at all? And the reason I came up with, is that any time you get a peek at Rose goofing around or acting normal (in other words, not like “humble-bot” as yffbb likes to say), it’s kind of shocking, and cool to see.
For a guy that everyone loves so much, on this site and around the city, it’s amazing how little we know of his personality off the court. Every time I see him cracking a joke or yukking it up with a teammate, it’s just kind of fascinating. I hope he opens up a little more next year, seeing as it’ll be his third year in the league, and he should be pretty comfortable. I don’t mean to sound stalker-y, but I just like it when you get to know the players that you root for a little.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 26, 2010 4:27 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
rose is realizing "hey im pretty good" finally
from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"
Didn't Rose win the MVP of the tournament yesterday?
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
Of that game.
The tournament does not start until this weekend.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 26, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
What i don't get is...
Who the he’ll gives out an award for being MVP of a single exhibition game?
Pat Riley is the devil.
Yeah, that's weird and misleading!
Semper Fi
PREDICTION for 2010-2011 NFL Season: "The England Patriots will finish 8-8 plus or minus 1" ~8/13/10 1230p
by ChicagoMarine on Aug 26, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Reminds me of the trophy of participation given to all little-leaguers
Not really the same, but also just as unnecessary.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 26, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Enough of this Boozer Remorse talk
Sloan wants free-agent power forward Carlos Boozer to re-sign with the Jazz.
“Sure, I’m hoping without a doubt,‘’ Sloan said in an interview with FanHouse at the Air Tran Orlando Pro Summer League on Monday about wanting Boozer back. "We’re not as good of a team without him. And he helped us a great deal. It’s hard to get good players.’’
Sloan, entering his 23rd season as Jazz coach, said he generally stays out of the free-agent process during the summer. But he made his feelings known to general manager Kevin O’Connor in a staff meeting that was held after the season.
“We all sat down and talked about what we’d like to do, and we’d like to have him back,’’ Sloan said of it being a consensus opinion among Jazz officials.
Sloan has alerted Boozer, a two-time All-Star, of his desire to have him back.
“He knows how I feel,’’ Sloan said.
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/05/jerry-sloan-wants-carlos-boozer-to-re-sign-with-jazz/
by messwiththebull on Aug 26, 2010 3:01 PM CDT reply actions
and the Bulls love Ben Gordon (and I guess Kirk Hinrich!), too
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 26, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
This wasn't the only time that Sloan has kept Boozer from being traded
He was also vocal before the last two seasons that he didn’t want to trade Boozer just because they got and then matched Millsap. Sloan wanted to compete for a title, and didn’t think that would happen without Boozer.
Knowing the kinds of things that Sloan values in a player, the endorsements from him weigh heavily in my mind.
by runningman on Aug 26, 2010 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's also making these comments in reference
to a multiple time all-star, U.S. Olympian, and 3rd team All-NBAer. I guess Matt can’t see the difference.
by messwiththebull on Aug 28, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I tend to place more weight in Sloan's comments
than BaBers infatuated with two Flintstone vitamin 2 guards.
by messwiththebull on Aug 28, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I hate Wade
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
I had to look up sycophantic
In Swirsky’s defense, maybe it would brighten his day to walk past a portly bronze Reinsdorf before every Bulls home game. My mood was improved by the mere thought of seeing what such a tribute would look like.
The Funk Might Fracture Your Nose
by chibullsareback on Aug 26, 2010 3:31 PM CDT reply actions
Per Tribune, Porter, Musselman and Kelvin Sampson are finalist for asst. coach
Our NBA sources tell us that the finalists for the last spot on new Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau’s staff are former NBA head coaches Terry Porter and Eric Musselman and former college coach Kelvin Sampson.
link?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 27, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ct-spt-0827-around-town—20100826,0,4320695.column
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Aug 28, 2010 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey you forgot to mention the Fanposts about 2k11!!!
which i just finished updating…(gah i feel like sports2/andrew7 plugging their blogs)
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Aug 27, 2010 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
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