2 Top Chicago PF's!
a little surprise for the Gibson haters, who knew we had a top 30 backup at the power forward position
almost 2 years ago
scb20
61 comments
0 recs |
Email
PrintComments
ive seen taht dude at number 23 somewhere
from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"
I'm having a little trouble figuring out how exactly he's doing this
Michael Beasley is better than Taj Gibson, and he’ll probably have a better season next year too. Not to rip on Taj, I really like him, but I’m just trying to figure out how he’s aligning these guys.
Superteams suck.
I disagree
Beasley is not better than Gibson……….Gibson defense alone is better than Beasley awful defense and average offense put together, specially, considering he played with D-Wade last year and the guy was usually double and triple team and Beasley still had problems scoring points………..Beasley should have a better stats again this season over Gibson, specially, since Gibson coming off the bench and will play less minutes this year, but unless Beasley really improves on his game, the guy will still be a bust pick at 2 and a below average nba player
Tough one
But I would give the edge to Taj because (1) he was a rookie and (2) beasley is such a big bust
by JustAnotherFan on Aug 25, 2010 7:29 AM CDT up reply actions
No way
Taj was better than Beasley last season. Beasley may have the better year this season, but Taj was better last year.
Pts TS% TRR DRtg(Team)
Taj 9.0 52.1 15.4 103 (105.3)
Beas 14.8 50.5 12.6 103 (104.1)
The only category where Taj was worse was points. Taj was more effecient, rebounded better, and had a better DRtg compared to his team (although Beasley is not as bad as advertised). It’s still close, but that TS% is very telling. Taj was making plenty of rookie mistakes and still managed a better TS%. Furthermore, Beasley actually got worse year 2, so I don’t see any evidence that he is going to make a jump.
"Mental toughness is to physical as four is to one." - Bob Knight
I have not been able to figure our his criteria...
Here is what he said about a more highly ranked player:
He’s a below-average shooter from long range who shoots too much, he’s not a great interior finisher. He’s a poor rebounder, a good defender at either forward slot to the naked eye (if not to the stat ledger), and at 24 he’s not some prospect worth taking your time on. He just appears to be a below-average forward to me.
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
I'm not sure Beasley is better
16.1 PER and mediocre defense vs. 13.8 PER and good defense, pretty close. Factor in the off court issues and I think it’s fair to project Taj higher. It’s not like NBA GMs value him that high. Riley tried trading him all offseason and ended up having to give him away.
Beasleys D is worse than mediocre at PF
He’s much more passable at sF though.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Aug 25, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Beasley rebounding is also not great
he average 6 rebounds a game last season as a starter and Gibson average 7.5 and didn’t start all year as a starter………..Deng even had more rebounds than Beasley, Deng average 7 a game and he is a sf
im a huge taj hater but even i gotta say beasley is worse than taj at this point
although. beasley certainly has the skillset to be better than taj by far.
im interested in seeing what a system where he is the main scorer will do for his career.
he played on a team dominated by wade so im skeptical a bit of what his stats show at the moment.
from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"
are there still Gibson haters?
he’s a backup now, everyone’s happy.
BaB on Twitter | BaB on Facebook
"Don't nag, flag!"
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 25, 2010 9:18 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
and Tyrus finished ahead of him
so I’m REALLY happy
BaB on Twitter | BaB on Facebook
"Don't nag, flag!"
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 25, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Eeeeeeeeeeeekkkk!
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Aug 25, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Some of us can never let go.
"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"
by chapuforyou on Aug 25, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
im still a gibson hater.
we couldve had blair/collison/lawson etc etc
from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"
Two of those guys went before gibson
So I think you need to direct your anger elsewhere.
Pat Riley is the devil.
You need to hate James Johnson more.
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 25, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Bosh being above Boozer isn't surprising
Amare at #3 is.
BaB on Twitter | BaB on Facebook
"Don't nag, flag!"
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 25, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh, I think he did
just didn’t think it was as much as others
BaB on Twitter | BaB on Facebook
"Don't nag, flag!"
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 25, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Kelly loves Amar'e. Really, really loves his game.
Plus, I think Kelly is projecting that Amar’e is going to see a lot more touches in NYK than Bosh will next year playing Alfred to Batman and Robin (Wade and LeBron).
Oh and Amare was an absolute monster in the second half of last year when he got fully healthy. He was playing near an MVP level and actually looked like he gave a crap on defense (he was still bad, but he tried harder).
The Chicago Bulls hate shooting ability.
by fundamentallysound on Aug 25, 2010 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I still think duncan's no. 1
After him I’d go gasol, bosh, dirk, amare, boozer, but I think the gap between those guys is pretty negligible. Boozers last solely because of his injury history.
Pat Riley is the devil.
i think gasol should be one at this point in their careers
duncans starting to slow down
i still dont see how amare is part of that elite group though.
from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"
by sin on Aug 25, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
id take boozer over any pf for this upcoming season
amare, bosh, and dirk are skinny weinies and duncans slow
by NeilFunk69 on Aug 25, 2010 6:15 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
how bout gasol
id rather have gasol.
from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"
I agree with your sound analysis
:)
Did you guys hear about the new Lebron James Iphone?
You have to keep it on vibrate because it has no rings.
by Rudey on Aug 25, 2010 6:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Amare is not skinny, neither is Dirk (though he rebounds and defends like he is).
The Chicago Bulls hate shooting ability.
by fundamentallysound on Aug 25, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
technically amare is skinny
has like a 30 inch waist line……
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
his arms and legs are solid, though. he's built like the ideal PF, imo.
The Chicago Bulls hate shooting ability.
by fundamentallysound on Aug 26, 2010 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions
shame he doesnt play like one
from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"
by sin on Aug 26, 2010 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
on offense he plays like the modern day prototype. it's his defense that lacks.
The Chicago Bulls hate shooting ability.
by fundamentallysound on Aug 26, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
kaboom!
BaB on Twitter | BaB on Facebook
"Don't nag, flag!"
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 25, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
And then watch him get crushed by Gasol?
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 25, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Gasol, Bosh, Dirk and Duncan
are all better.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Aug 25, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
David lee's not listed
So either Dwyer plain forgot about him or he’s being ranked as a center. Ditto for Al Jefferson.
Pat Riley is the devil.
Lee will likely continue to run as a center in GSW like he did in NYK.
The Chicago Bulls hate shooting ability.
by fundamentallysound on Aug 26, 2010 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions
but what does that make Biedrins?
BaB on Twitter | BaB on Facebook
"Don't nag, flag!"
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 26, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
too tall for system!
from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"
Backup center?
The Chicago Bulls hate shooting ability.
by fundamentallysound on Aug 26, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Does Kelly hate Murphy?
why is he in every picture getting owned?
Just a running gag
He chose Ty Lawson for the PGs, Mayo for the SGs, LeRod for the SFs and of course Troy Murphy for the PFs.
I wonder who he will choose for the centers.
My money is on Chris Mihm… wait… he’s not in the league anymore.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 25, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope it's Joakim Noah owning everybody else.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Aug 26, 2010 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
The only problem i had at pf was with Amare
I would had pick him 6, behind Gasol, Duncan, Dirk, Bosh, and Boozer……….in that order
by Jermal on Aug 25, 2010 10:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'd probably put Dirk at the #1 PF in the league (without looking at stats)
not a fantastic defender, I don’t know about his rebounding, but I do know that you can win a championship with him as your best player.
by Stacey_Is_King on Aug 25, 2010 11:15 PM CDT reply actions
The Lakers just actually won a title with Gasol as their best player. Kobe lovers will hate to hear that, but it's the truth.
The Chicago Bulls hate shooting ability.
by fundamentallysound on Aug 26, 2010 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
didnt gasol have more bad games in the finals than kobe?
I’m totally going off the top of my head atm. I remember thinking gasol was their mvp during the playoffs but kobe was the one that stepped up every finals game. I could be wrong
from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"
No, he didn't. Kobe sucked several games in the finals. Pau was more consistent.
The Chicago Bulls hate shooting ability.
by fundamentallysound on Aug 26, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep.
The Chicago Bulls hate shooting ability.
by fundamentallysound on Aug 26, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
If this was 2005 I would agree but the Mavs choked away their only chance at a final. At this point Gasol is way superior to Dirk, it’s not even close. Gasol is the better rebounder, defender and passer, Dirk can score more but then again he is the top option while Gasol still has Kobe chosing to shoot 22 foot contested shots.
dirk is the far superior offensive player but gasol as a whole package is better
from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
NBA Playoffs Content Module
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recent FanPosts
In Association With
Ball Don't Lie - NBA - Yahoo! Sport
- Shaquille O’Neal is in a Chinese beer commercial, too (VIDEO)
- ‘Deep Thoughts’ and Cheap Thoughts: San Antonio Spurs vs. Oklahoma City Thunder
- C-a-C: This is probably as close to LeBron James working with John Waters as we’ll ever get
- Dwyane Wade’s hot pink pants: The kind of thing you can get away with when you drop 41
- Lamar Odom to New York? Dwight Howard on the move? For now, it’s all talk
