Rudy Fernandez, whining away the Wednesday
First seen on Hoopshype via a fanshot (which the author deleted...for some reason), Rudy Fernandez's agent says the Spaniard's experience in Portland has been less than ideal (peppering in the delusional: "he was at that point certainly the No. 1 player in Spain and one of the top players in the NBA"), and the relationship is irreparable:
"Portland and I have had numerous discussions, almost daily, on the situation, I think this situation is headed for a collision course because Rudy's perspective on where he wants to be and what he wants to do and how he wants to accomplish it is on the opposite of the spectrum from where Portland sees the situation."
And before we get too excited on him forcing a trade:
"The impression I'm getting more and more is that he's lost interest in playing in the NBA, quite frankly, It's my impression that Rudy would prefer to be in Europe rather than the NBA at this point."
Marc Spears at Yahoo! follows up on the non-trade angle, making it seem quite definite that Fernandez won't accept any new NBA team. Though he also notes that Fernandez can't sign a contract in Europe while under NBA contract, and the early comment from Blazers management that they won't simply release him.
And, of course, maybe this is just Fernandez and his people trying to force a trade after all, exerting some kind of leverage...as while he can't just leave, he can make things uncomfortable. Do the Bulls want someone who would do that, and someone who may actually have given up on the NBA?
I'd still give it a shot, hoping that Fernandez could see the potential here in a team that needs his skills and has some minutes to spare at the wing (promises made to their new free agents notwithstanding). But Taj Gibson is definitely off the table.
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Here is a sports radio interview with the Blazers beat writer. Not much new info here, but Chicago is one of the mentioned teams.
http://www.955thegame.com/RUDY-WANTS-OUT-/7940639
"Listening to the media only increases your odds of failing at whatever you are doing" - Mark Cuban
Hopefully Taj Gibson was always off the table.
Otherwise I would never forgive the Blazers for not doing the deal.
by Nick Van Excellent on Aug 18, 2010 8:49 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I'd still try to trade JJ or pick for Rudy.
But, if the Blazers really want to play hard ball, I’d be willing to throw in Neil Funk and a free big mac.
@johnhollinger You could push on a string and get more leverage than Rudy Fernandez has right
by regui8er on Aug 18, 2010 8:58 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
i get that he has no leverage
but he also has very little value. What is Portland holding onto other than principle? Of course, I’m sure I’ll be cursing Portland and Rudy after he is traded to the Heat for Chalmers.
by Basketball Smurf on Aug 18, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
He has little value, that's why
How much lower can his value get? I mean like yfBB said, we wouldn’t even send Taj Gibson their way at this point. It’s not like it can get worse.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 19, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I was kinda hoping you would make a post about your next Tweet,
regarding Neil Funk and the sad fact that he’s still calling games on tv. We need to get some momentum going on that one. Not sure I can take it for another year :(
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 18, 2010 9:02 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Sorry Neil, time to take your talents back to the radio
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 18, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd prefer to see him take his talents to south beach
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Aug 18, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
oh yeah juice box? listen to this call...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOf4eEUJjQo
COME AND GET SOME OF THIS JBJ
"nice hustle from Taj Gibson"
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 19, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Wasn't that clip followed by like 5 minutes of Funk ripping the Thunder?
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 19, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What's your problem with Neil Funk?
He has a great voice, and proper excitement, and he has an amazing rapport with Stacy. Yeah, he makes the occasional goof about who is who, but so does Mike Breen and even the great Marv Albert. He’s one of the best in the business.
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by chibullsareback on Aug 19, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
he's blind
and he has an unearned arrogance in crapping on the opponents.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 19, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
he's a homer
He definitely makes assumptions too quickly about the opponents. I remember one game in particular, was still on radio, the Bulls played a Sunday afternoon game against the Pistons and the Pistons started off real slow. Funk started commenting on how the Pistons looked hung over or something, citing Rasheed Wallace specifically. Low-and-behold the Pistons came back and won a flurry of Rasheed treys…But as a viewer it makes me feel like the Bulls should win every game. And it keeps me excited even if I have no reason to be. It’s not objective, but it’s not supposed to be. He’s more than a cache full of catch-phrases, and he has a nice way of describing the game action. He’s even occasionally pretty observant. As great as Tom Dore was (mostly because I associate his calls with titles), I like Funk a lot better. And I certainly like him a lot better than Wayne Laravee.
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by chibullsareback on Aug 19, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
to say he's better than tom dore
isn’t saying much. :P
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
my favorite tom dore quote
“the bulls are hanging by the skin of their chinny-chin-chin!”
i count three mixed metaphors in there.
i'm hot for teacher
Someone should get Stacey to start using the term 'donkeypunch' incorrectly around Funk.
So we can get a hilarious moment where Funk gets comfortable with it and decides to use it in a game.
“OHH and Boozer donkeypunches it home!”
"I'm going to enjoy an apple in bed." - Derrick Rose
yup, Dore was awful too
he was more competent, but way too dopey
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 19, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
so who's good?
or do they all suck?
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by chibullsareback on Aug 19, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
if your sample size is 2
yes, they all suck.
Jim Durham was the freaking man.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 19, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Who cares if he's a homer?
I’d take him any day over some Spock-like drone who shows little or no emotion.
His homerism manifests of ripping whoever the opponent is
It gets. It’s not even like he sounds like the Bulls are good, just every other team is terrible.
yes! though not entirely for that.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 19, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Stacey King rags on BG, but he as grown into his job.
Funk has proven if you take away the mask of radio he actually has no clue what’s going on.
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 19, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Why has this not been rec'ed more!
Most people I know listen with the sound off Neil is so bad at this point.
Hopefully this is enough of a shitstorm to push Portland into pick (+JJ if they want) for Rudy.
He makes 1.2 mil this year with a 2 mil team option for next year. It’s less risk than McGrady was going to be. Almost risk free to be honest.
by RyPac13 on Aug 18, 2010 9:18 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
At this point, I'd even take the Charlotte pick off the table
by Option27 on Aug 18, 2010 9:21 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 6 recs
Portland rejected Bulls trade proposal
Sources say Portland rejected Bulls offer of James Johnson & Charlotte’s 2012 1st for Rudy & rights to Victor Claver (6’10 PF/SF).
what sources?
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Link?
And if this is true, Portland is fucking psychotic.
I can’t even see the Bulls offering this right now considering all the bitchin’ going on.
I was all for that proposal at first and thought it made total sence for both teams but now, Rudy is giving Portland no leverage. No need to get rid of that Charlotte pick anymore
by Option27 on Aug 18, 2010 9:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
If by sources, you mean the fans at Blazers' Edge last month.
But right now, I’d say they’d take it. Now only if you can get the GM’s to agree.
"[S]ince men enjoyed very great leisure, they used it to pursue many kinds of commodities unknown to their fathers, and that was that first yoke they placed upon themselves without thinking about it, and the first source of evils the prepared for their descendants. For, besides continuing thus to soften body and mind, as these commodities had lost almost all their pleasantness through habit, and as they had at the same time degenerated into true needs, being deprived of them became much more cruel than possessing them was sweet; and people were unhappy to lose them without being happy to have them." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Portland: "Let's wait to trade Rudy, I'm sure he'll gain value"
Rudy: “I’m gonna go to Europe”
Portland: “… Oh …”
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
by Prevenge on Aug 18, 2010 11:46 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Cho: "Have fun being suspended for a year or two"
Rudy: “When exactly did you want me to report to camp?”
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by Norsktroll on Aug 18, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Sorry, I gotta agree with the Portand guy on this one
I don’t see where Rudy has all this leverage. If they want a little more for him than they’re being offered, and most teams around the league don’t think he’s worth giving up much, then Portland can basically just say “screw it”, and do what they’re doing. It’s not like he’s a high profile player like Lebron or Carmelo where it would be a disaster for the franchise. If they don’t really care about a draft pick, or don’t want JJ, why should they take it, just cause he’s a little upset?
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 19, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Cause it's the Blazers way or no way at all!
by Option27 on Aug 19, 2010 12:34 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Why, they toss around millions for worthless 2nd rounders...
They would never deal.
by Khalid El-Amin on Aug 19, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, my sources are telling me (Chris Broussard and I share) that the Blazers
have refused to trade Rudy here after they saw the Bulls promotional videos for the upcoming season. They felt the videos were way too arrogant, and that the Bulls had done nothing up to this point to deserve such promotion. Hence, no Rudy. ;)
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Aug 19, 2010 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey, we're all allowed to interpret shit our own way, right?
by Option27 on Aug 19, 2010 12:53 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
"Blotch cards"
Also known as Rorschach cards.
by jpx7 on Aug 19, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Generally I agree
but couldn’t it hurt them with other European players… I’d imagine these guys consult one another when coming overseas? If Rudy has nothing but bad things to say, I can’t imagine that would help the Blazers.
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
Maybe in regards to other Spanish players...
But I doubt that extends to all Europe.
Pat Riley is the devil.
probably
i don’t know enough about the ins and outs of euro basketball or if any relationships are cultivated between players from different countries. language barriers probably present an obstacle. i would think any competent handler/agent in europe would check in on any foreign players’ experience with nba teams.
there’s been a decent chunk of talent entering the nba from spain, but who knows if that’s enough to concern the blazers.
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
After Sergio and now Rudy
Claver is never going to be a Blazer.
by Sabonis4Ever on Aug 20, 2010 3:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Supposedly Rubio was adamantly against going to Memphis
Because of what he had heard from Gasol and JC Navarro about playing there.
play in China with Marbury
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 19, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I just can't imagine this situation accommodating Rudy.
We have a ball dominant guard, a defensive minded coach and four players already ahead of him on the totem pole (and rightfully so). Don’t you think it would be better to just wait until some of our lower salaried players are trade-able in December and we could possibly pick up a player more up for the role he would have?
I am just not sure if Rudy has shown himself to be as good as he thinks he is.
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by Super-Structure on Aug 19, 2010 2:49 AM CDT reply actions
Finally someone with sense (regarding this situation)
Chicago Jazz > Three Am-Egos
by chicago030 on Aug 19, 2010 9:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
that's if he's actually delusional about his star status
but he’s a shooter who could use a ball-dominant guard, is a pretty good defender, and there’s no incumbent ahead of him at SG
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 19, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He may be delusional
He’s been used to being the man in Europe. Doesn’t Portland have a ball dominant guard in Roy? He can’t seem to learn to play off the ball. Playing off the ball means more than sulking to the corner or the top of the arc and waiting for a pass. You have to run off screens and stuff, work to get open. If he can’t do that, then he has no use for the Bulls. And if his personality is as volatile as it seems to be he’ll be a disaster here.
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by chibullsareback on Aug 19, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
You've never seen Rudy play if you think he's not good off the ball.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Aug 19, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not talking about give-and-goes
where he cuts to the basket, or when he cuts to the basket without giving. I’m talking about running through a series of screens Ray Allen/Reggie Miller/Rip Hamilton style and getting open. I know it’s unpopular, and he is one of my least favorite players in the NBA, he has a god awful contract, and he’s on the wrong side of 30, but I really really like the idea of adding Richard Hamilton to this team. I think he would be the perfect fit. Shooters have a long shelf life, and I believe Rip’s got plenty left in the tank. Rudy is a guy who needs the offense ran through him to be most effective. The Bulls don’t need a guy like that. Think Hedo Turkoglu (a reason he could end up being a disaster in Phoenix). Hell Orlando should trade for Rudy, he’d be perfect for them.
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by chibullsareback on Aug 19, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
And
I’m not saying Rudy’s game is like Turkoglu’s. I’m just saying they are both guys who need the offense ran through them. Rudy’s a lot more athletic & shorter etc. Don’t try and make that the only thing you took from my comment.
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by chibullsareback on Aug 19, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
if one player is holding the ball
one is running through screens, and the rest are setting screens….isn’t that basically running the offense through the player running through all the screens?
The offense is the sum of the parts
Make plays with the ball, or make plays without it.
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by chibullsareback on Aug 19, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm not sure you got my question.
He can’t seem to learn to play off the ball.
I’m talking about running through a series of screens Ray Allen/Reggie Miller/Rip Hamilton style and getting open.
I’m not saying Rudy’s game is like Turkoglu’s. I’m just saying they are both guys who need the offense ran through them.
So you’re saying the drawback to Rudy is that he needs the offense run through him, but then you also say his weakness is that he can’t be the one running off multiple screens to get a jumper a la Reggie Miller, which as far as I can tell is essentially having the offense run through him.
That’s what I don’t get.
i think he meant
rudy needs the ball in his hands. and i’m not so sure about that. but in the end i agree with you, i mean even if reggie miller held the ball just a fraction of a second for a catch and shoot you could still say he was their go to guy.
". I’m talking about running through a series of screens Ray Allen/Reggie Miller/Rip Hamilton style and getting open."
Yeah I know. He’s really really good at that. In fact, that’s what he does best. The fact that you don’t know that makes me think you don’t have a good perception of what Rudy brings to the table.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Aug 19, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He floats
He floats around the three point line. He’s a floater. He’s not active unless he thinks he’s getting cookies near the rim. I’ve seen him play. Maybe it’s the way the Blazers were using him, but I find it hard to believe that they didn’t try to make him do it more consistently. Not saying he’s not capable of doing it. Conceptually it should be easy. I’m saying he’s not willing.
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by chibullsareback on Aug 19, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think you are right
Rudy plays best in a motion offense. Coming off screens, cutting to the basket, etc. He doesn’t have a 1 on 1 game like Turk does. The Blazers relied on a lot of 1 on 1 or pick and roll stuff. Basically they asked Rudy to sit in the corner and wait for the kick out from Dre or Roy. When they weren’t running pick and rolls they were throwing into the post to Aldridge or Oden when healthy. They are a very efficient offense but they also play at a slow rate. They rarely got out on the break.
There is a chance the Bulls offense could end up like the Blazers, with nothing but pick and rolls and Rose iso’s, but I think the hope is that the Bulls would play more uptempo, move the ball a bit more, and give multiple guys the chance to make plays with the ball and not just Rose. Rudy set the rookie record for 3 pters. I don’t think he could have set that record if he played the way you describe.
by Basketball Smurf on Aug 19, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
some rudy highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZFXYaCHuWQ&feature=search
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by chibullsareback on Aug 19, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
these highlight packages just make me want the
Bulls to offer the Charlotte pick for Rudy. He is exactly what we need to split time with Brewer at the 2.
by Basketball Smurf on Aug 19, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
That’s we he wants to get traded. It’s less about minutes and more about how they use him. Moving without the ball is by far his strongest attribute besides his three point shooting. He did it a ton his rookie season, but slowed down a bit after he had surgery on his back last season.
Basically they used him more as a spot up shooter last season, but I would still consider him one of the best at moving without the ball.
by Nick Van Excellent on Aug 19, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
A tribute video to Rudy breaking the 3 point record
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmVaTMNLzks&feature=fvw
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by chibullsareback on Aug 19, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Look how he gets those shots
he floats
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by chibullsareback on Aug 19, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
those are just pictures of him shooting
you can’t even see how he got open most of the time.
by Basketball Smurf on Aug 19, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea
that’s why I posted it second, but there are some longer sequences
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by chibullsareback on Aug 19, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
He really doesn't.
It’s true that the Nate loves to have guys “play the Portland”, as Rudy calls it, but I don’t think you could find a single Blazer fan who would say Rudy is anything but outstanding at moving without the ball.
by Nick Van Excellent on Aug 19, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Word
You are flat out wrong chibullsareback.
by Sabonis4Ever on Aug 20, 2010 3:08 AM CDT up reply actions
burn him!
oh wait, that’s witches
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 19, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
So if Rudy weighs the same as a duck
trade a 1st round pick for him?
by tuluse on Aug 19, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I'm not sure he weighs as much as a duck!
(I hate skinny people)
(not really)
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Everyone is against me on this one
I don’t mind being in the minority here. I also was in the minority when I was happy Tyrus got hurt because it meant more minutes for Taj. Not saying they are related, just another instance I took a pretty unpopular stance. I don’t have the energy to defend this one, the Bulls need a starting shooting guard. To all of you Rudy seems like an easy and available solution. I’m not sure that he’s the right one. That’s the end of it. We could pick nits forever, I’m very sure of that.
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by chibullsareback on Aug 19, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
People are not against you
Just your stance on the subject. No worries.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 19, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea
wasn’t implying people are against me, I was implying that I was right during this other situation where I was the lone minority. It’s not a conspiracy, at least I think it isn’t
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by chibullsareback on Aug 19, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
you were right?
you sure were picking a good choice when you wanted someone to get hurt.
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
Argh
http://www.blogabull.com/2009/11/7/1120514/im-happy-to-have-a-break-from
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by chibullsareback on Aug 20, 2010 6:55 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah, haters gonna hate!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 20, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
you may be hoping a little
Thibs, like Nate McMillan, is a defensive guy. How was Boston’s offense run? Pick and roll. But Ray Allen was there to run off screens.
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by chibullsareback on Aug 19, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, prior to his recent years in the NBA
Thibs was more of an offense-oriented coach. He definitely was an offense-oriented player.
It was his time in the ranks of coaching that he learned defense and perfected that. There were a number of articles about this when he was hired.
I am confident that he knows just as much about the offensive side of the ball as the defensive side.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 19, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
You really don't know what you're talking about.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Aug 19, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rudy is known for his off ball movement
You are way off base here. Rip and Ray are two frequently mention complimentary comparisons because at his best Rudy can do a good impression of Shuttlesworth on offense.
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by MadBlaze on Aug 22, 2010 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
True.
Rudy is better than any 2 you have. And is best off the ball, which you need. That’s why a trade hasn’t gone through. If we give you somthing you need, then we need something we can use. A stretch 4 will not do it, when there’s 40 of those guys in the western conference. I don’ t see a trade happening.
by Sound_Automatic on Sep 6, 2010 2:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I do not have references,
but he has talked about wanting to be a playnmaker and his status in Europe before. I think he knows he can go back to Europe and be a huge star and make a ton of money; I can’t imagine him passing on that opportunity much longer to have essentially the same range of potential on Portland East. Brewer is a good enough defender to merit getting minutes over Rudy, we already have a pure shooter who won’t complain about getting 15 minutes, I am not sure Rudy’s 14-16 per (with bad defense) is worth the potential headache.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Aug 19, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
i believe spain
has a ball dominant guard that rudy has played successfully with before. to him, i don’t think “being a playmaker” means pounding the ball.
as far as “portland east” goes, if thibodeau can’t get the best out of rudy, then brewer is gonna be a big offensive liability at the starting 2. (they have the same basic strengths of running the floor and playing off the ball, no?)
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Is Brewer a big offensive liability or just a bad shooter?
He can run the floor, he can get dunks, he is as good a passer as Rudy. He has posted good PER numbers as well.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Aug 19, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
im pretty worried about brewer offensively.
"If I was to answer that question honestly, I would have to lie to you."
- Isiah Thomas, when asked if any teams were interested in trading for Shandon Anderson
Why is that?
Beyond perimeter shooting (which, admittedly is important), what are his deficiencies?
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 19, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Brewer seems fine to me.
Their scoring per36 is pretty similar on similar amount of attempts. Their assists and rebounds are about the same and Brewer draws more fouls. Brewer has posted some pretty high offensive ratings and TS%.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Aug 19, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
i wonder if you read what i said
logic: if bulls are portland east (where rudy would not want to go), then how effective will brewer be? in utah he runs and cuts, but that would not be happening in thibodeau’s portland offense. if you assume rudy would be as limited as he was in portland, i propose in such a system brewer will have big problems too.
see? in an ideal bulls offense, the 2 would be used the same basic ways, but rudy would have 3pt range that brewer wouldn’t. (obviously, brewer would be the defender rudy wouldn’t be.)
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
I was making a more vague comparison between the two,
referring to depth rather than style. I bet the Bulls more resemble Utah’s offense, given that they didn’t shoot a lot of threes, but pushed the ball and ran a great pick and roll with Williams and Boozer. I don’t see why the Bulls would slow down, so that is as far as my comparison can logically extend.
Anyway, I still stand by my assertion that Brewer might be underrated as an offensive player.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Aug 22, 2010 2:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Fernandez isn't a pure shooter.
Whatever that means.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
The semantics are pretty simple in this case.
A player whose role is to shoot threes.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Aug 19, 2010 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
And pretty much only that.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Aug 19, 2010 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
All of this really points to
The Blazers probably won’t release him these upcoming months. Since his salary is only 1.2 million, it really doesn’t restrict the team’s activities regardless of wether he plays or not, so I doubt they’ll care. The Blazers would hate to let him go only to see him possibly change his mind and play for some other team in the league this season. What will happen is they’ll let him sit this year out, decline the next year’s option, and let him go to Europe.
If you have a year left on your contract, you can't hold out the entire year and then become a free agent
Unless Portland agrees to a buyout or they just release him, he’s going to have to play in the NBA this year whether he wants to or not.
My sources are telling me that the Blazers are in talks with New Orleans regarding a Rudy for CP3 deal
but the Blazers are insisting on some additional compensation.
I got the skills to pay the bills and that's about it
by Rose Colored Goggles on Aug 19, 2010 9:50 AM CDT reply actions 7 recs
I'd believe this. Seriously, fuck the Blazers.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
by Illini15 on Aug 19, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
You know = fuck this guy
I know alot of wanted him but if he’s whinning like this after 2 season, then take ur ass back to Spain. this is THE NBA. There is nothing guaranteed..maybe if he had shut up, hit the gym (since he still looks fraile), work on his game he could have did sum last year: after all Roy was injured and he should have stpped up. HE DIDNT = so rudy here’ a big tall glass of : Kiss my ass and a plate off hit the road jack
I reject your reality... and substitute my own.
I am not so sure
From everything that I have heard and read it just sounds like he wants to play in an offense that will let him thrive.
If what Nick says is correct (and I imagine it is since he has seen Rudy more than the rest of us) he would be content as a cucumber to play in an offense that utilizes his strengths (which, you know, makes sense.) And if he is a star in one league and forced to be a bit player in another, I think it is natural to feel disgruntled.
I am sure there is ego involved, but I would not call it an ego problem. I am guessing that their are rules in place that prevent other teams from calling him up and say, “Look, I understand your feelings on the matter, but do not resolve yourself to sit out. Push for a trade. If you come to our team we will utilize your talents correctly.” Of course, it sounds like the other problem is Portland’s lack of motivation to move him. I wish I knew what Cho expects to get in return.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 19, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
even sweet little barbosa
asked the suns for a trade! of course it was out of the public eye, and the suns obliged.
portland, on the other hand, apparently have turned down reasonable deals all summer. this after wooing him over to the states two years ago with all sorts of promises. promises rudy says they haven’t followed through on.
and people blame the player over his organization for looking after his career by finally taking it public!
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
He has been bitching since last season
No “finally” about it.
by Sabonis4Ever on Aug 20, 2010 3:13 AM CDT up reply actions
WE SHOULDVE TAKEN TMAC
from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"
should have signed him to a minimum and been like “shutup and sit on the bench, if we need you, we’ll call”
sounds just fine to me. gawd why did we pass
“Come off the bench — if that’s what it is, that’s what it is,” McGrady said while meeting with media members at the practice facility at The Palace. “I’m just ready to play basketball, y’all. Seriously. That’s what I wake up thinking about. That’s what I love to do.”
http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2010/08/tracy_mcgrady_im_just_ready_to.html
from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"
It would all matter...
…if Rudy was better. Luckily for us, he isn’t anything special.
If he was better we probably wouldn't be in a position to trade for him
Rudy’s probably the best SG we’ll be able to acquire without downgrading at another position in the starting lineup.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Aug 19, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
what the fuck? they wouldnt take chandler really?
The Celtics and Bulls have since offered their No. 1 picks in 2011, the source said, and the Knicks have offered shooting guard Wilson Chandler. But with more than a month remaining until the start of NBA training camps, Cho is waiting to see what else becomes available.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5477272
from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"
unlike actual games
from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"
by sin on Aug 19, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
and personally i think thats a huge win in itself
chandler would make an nice wing defender to go along with roy imo
from now on instead of saying "go fuck yourself" im gunna just say "go join the heat"
The master taught him everything he knew
A league source told ESPN.com that in late June, several teams with draft picks in the teens offered to send their pick to Portland for Fernandez, but the Blazers — who were being run by then-general manager Kevin Pritchard — declined.
Chandler for Rudy doesn't even work.
You’d think ESPN run it past their own trade machine before making up rumors.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
im sure there were other pieces to the trade
that werent mentioned
I think the part about him being one of the best in the NBA is a misquote (error)
When reading the whole article, it doen’t make sense. The agent probably said one of the best in Europe, and then he came to the NBA (and the journalist wrote NBA twice, because he doesn’t know what Europe means).
The Game chose him !
I'd still give up Gibson for him.
But now it wouldn’t be a first and Gibson.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
You're nuts, man
Really.
I’m down to a 2nd round pick…
by BAB-Bass on Aug 20, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We are definitely in the minority here
I think Gibson is replaceable with someone like Amundson, while there are no 2 guards available that have starter potential outside of Rudy.
HA!
WojYahooNBA
The NBA fined Rudy Fernandez $25K for “…statements detrimental to NBA” but Clippers can continue cheating employees out of money earned.
by Option27 on Aug 19, 2010 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Man
Fuck nas, fuck biggie. Lol, we sound like 2pac
Chicago Jazz > Three Am-Egos
by chicago030 on Aug 19, 2010 8:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Trade rumor update
Friday, August 20
" Update: 06:32 AM ET
I mentioned this in my report yesterday on the feud/pending divorce between Rudy Fernandez and the Portland Trail Blazers, but it belongs in the lead paragraph for this site: The Knicks are among the teams trying to acquire the Spanish shooting guard, and they have offered Wilson Chandler. Other offers on the table include the Boston Celtics and Chicago Bulls each offering a No. 1 draft pick in 2011, a league source told ESPN.com.
i'd trade em all the picks they want
seriously, i think a lot of people are overvaluing those picks. the bulls don’t really need them. this year’s team is pretty young and fairly deep. james johnson will almost never play. chances are if we drafted taj this season he too would ride the pine. the only player who could potentially crack the rotation is a good lottery guard and that’s not really the pick we’re trading away here.
i’d even trade the charlotte one, sure it has a chance of being really good in a few years, but rudy would help this team right now.
James Johnson
At one time, James was even considered a lottery pick by ESPN prior to the draft. With Johnson’s size 6’8 and ability, Johnson has the tools to become a solid NBA shooting gaurd/small forward, IMO. Unfortunately, I don’t think Johnson’s skill set fits with the Bulls’ system anymore but may fourish in another system. If Johnson is still with the Bulls, I hope the Bulls give him more of an opportunity to play compared to last year.
Draftexpress had some nice pre-draft comments on Johnson:
Johnson’s ability to face-up and attack his man off the dribble makes him a terrific mismatch threat on the perimeter, and watching him utilize his outstanding footwork and pivot moves in the post, it’s hard not to come away impressed with his scoring and overall basketball instincts. He has great hands and outstanding touch with either hand around the basket, sometimes flicking up pretty floaters around the rim, and looks very comfortable at times operating with his back to the basket as well.
Although his 3-point shot has not fallen at a very good rate (he’s just 17/57, or 30%), Johnson’s mid-range pull-up jumper has become a very effective weapon this season, particularly off one dribble after getting his defender in the air with a pump-fake.
While Johnson can score in a wide variety of ways, he is also a fairly solid passer as well. He sees the floor well and regularly makes heady passes right into the post for easy baskets, clearly possessing an advanced feel for the game. Johnson’s knack for making plays around the ball also extends to the offensive glass, where he is not quite as prolific as he was last season, but is still pretty adept.
All in all, Johnson is one of the more unique prospects in this draft—while not a prototypical small forward, he’s got more than enough tools to get by on the perimeter, and he can hurt the opposition quite a bit in his own right.
Just makes me think less of basketball scouts...
WAY less
by BAB-Bass on Aug 20, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nate McMillan met Rudy in Spain yesterday
Published: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 1:19 PM Updated: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 2:03 PM Jason Quick, The Oregonian
Trail Blazers coach Nate McMillan said he had a "good conversation" on Thursday with Rudy Fernandez, but he said the disgruntled guard gave him no indication of whether he will report to training camp in October.
"I thought it was a good conversation,’’ McMillan said. "We talked about everything. I don’t want to go into the details, but I talked to him as a coach.’’
Fernandez on his Twitter account described the conversation as “cordial.”
Nate met with Rudy in Spain and went over what his role and expectations with the Blazers will be. Nate said any discussion he has with Rudy are confidential.
Nate said there is a role for Rudy this season and now Rudy understands it will be different than last year.
As far as Nate is concerned he is talking to all his players and letting them know what their roles and expectations are for the coming season.
Nate told Rudy he expects him at fall camp.
I’m not sure if Bulls are still pursuing Rudy but it sure seems that the Knicks are. Knicks are offering Wilson Chandler but dont have a 1st round pick to give to the Blazers.
does he even have to pay this fine, because he wants out of the nba anyway
if he doesnt pay then they boot him out which is what he wants

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