Rudy Fernandez: "I've been pretty f***ed up psychologically"
by gridiron_assassin on Aug 12, 2010 2:05 PM CDT
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If I could return to Europe I’d be thrilled. But, at the same time, if I could decide my future and some NBA team could assure me some minutes and the team played a way that fits my game, then I’d like to continue playing in the States. Right now it’s 50-50.
"It’s more like we’re trying to talk with (the Blazers) and make them understand my position. And let’s make clear I understand theirs too. We have to come to an agreement and find a way out as soon as possible. I made a great effort going to the States, making less money that I would in Europe. This season, I decided with my agents that the best thing was to try to get traded so I could be on another team with more playing time.
"Not to the point of being depressed, but I’ve been pretty fucked up psychologically. I didn’t feel comfortable on the court and sometimes I preferred to stay on the bench. I didn’t feel capable of helping the team and that’s very tough to handle for any player.
I'd just like to point out that I am in favor of acquiring Rudy. However, this provides a closer look at the fragile state of mind that Rudy was in last year.
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Just to add a few more things I noticed in the interview (since I am Hispanic and speak fluently)...
At one point in the interview Rudy was asked if he felt depressed last year and his response was (the following is my translation):
To the point of depression, no. But I was pretty fucked up psychologically. I didn’t feel right on the floor and at times I would have preferred to stay on the bench. I didn’t feel capable of helping my team on the floor and that is something very complicated/difficult for any player to carry
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Aug 12, 2010 2:11 PM CDT reply actions
Do people assume that polls are mandatory if making a fanpost?
by Option27 on Aug 12, 2010 2:12 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Not like it was something unrelated to the topic...
And something like this could definitely change someone’s mind as to whether or not they would still want Rudy on this team
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf&#@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
"Why give 100% when 35 can still get you paid and laid."- Kenny Powers
by gridiron_assassin on Aug 12, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
i would like to pull this trade off
without letting go of JJ. Yes he has failed to get better this year, but still.
I think the bulls were partly in error of that as well. They should have let him play more last year.
gotta disagree
we played him till Taj proved to be the better option. Both rookies, both needed minutes, but it JJ’s fault for sucking so bad
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by Belize on Aug 12, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
from what ive read it's kind of moot anyway
the blazers dont want jj
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
It's sounds like the Blazers don't want any player back. (except where they clearly get a better player....oh wait it's Portland)
They’re more content stockpiling picks because their roster is almost maxed out (15 players) and for that, I don’t blame them. But I don’t see how the way Rudy plays for Spain changing his trade value all that much.
Since teams’ rosters are filling out (or filled out) and they’re so many teams near or over the tax, Portland would likely have to take a player back in any deal. Rudy’s still a disgruntled employee who has only ONE serious trade suitor left. He sees his max minutes in Portland the 23 he got last year; with a healthy Roy it may not matter how well he plays as those will get trimmed. The Bulls offer him a better system for his talents and a chance to prove himself.
I think Rudy deserves starter mintues....
He as an impressive repertoire of skills on the court. If we were able to swing a deal for Rudy I think he deserves to start over brewer IMO.
This season, I decided with my agents that the best thing was to try to get traded so I could be on another team with more playing time.
Who knows what rudy is capable of with more minutes? Although his comments kind of are opposite of what the Bulls are trying to preach. Rudy is too much of a bargain financially and to stop pursuing him from this one interview wouldn’t be very intelligent.
After reading this, I don’t think I look at this as a negative. More, I see a player that wants a team to use him to his full potential.
by Da Bears2333333 on Aug 12, 2010 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
So is the theory still that
we’re not going to see any move by the Blazers until after the World Championships in the hopes that the championships raise his value ?
not a bad theory
I still believe the Blazers do (and should) value a rookie-contract player ahead of a 1st-round pick. (if that player isn’t James Johnson)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 12, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
They should
and they should try to get the most out of him in a trade (more than late first + the myth of JJs potential). Really, he has the potential to be in the finals with Spain, and one great game in the finals could have teams like Dallas willing to give up a lot more. I can’t believe the Bulls would be the only team that want Rudy, though all teams are likely constrained by a glut of untradeable contracts just signed after this massive FA period.
Rudy still has all the leverage though. I’m pretty sure time isn’t an issue as Olympikos or some other greek/turkish team could waive some bench player and sign him at any point in the season (assumption).
by JockstrapNoah on Aug 13, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Just go get this man Bulls...
Blazers are in a tough spot here they have to get rid of him.
The more I think about 3pters
the more I think a Rose-Rudy-Korver-Boozer-Noah lineup would be all-time good offensively. As in, 115-120 ORating good. If Deng learns to hit threes, there’s the Bulls’ shot at knocking off a top team.
I agree.
And with Deng and Brewer and Thibadeau, there’s still a lot of room for a good defensive team when needed. I know that’s why they don’t want to give up Taj, but I still think they should, if needed.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Aug 12, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Amundson is still out there
I really like Taj, but we can sign someone for dirt cheap to replace a lot of what he does.
How. Dare. You.
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by Trey23 on Aug 14, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I wanted to argue against this
But Amundson really does beat Taj in nearly ever advanced stat. It remains to be seen if Amundson can maintain those numbers while playing the amount of minutes Taj did and playing as many minutes against opposing starting 4s as Taj did (which he still will not really have to do) but adding Rudy can be pretty huge and dealing Taj (as much as I love him) could make these things happen.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 12, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
amundson
is 2.5 yrs older
wants much more money (i think he declined the min offer from the suns?)
can’t make a free throw
is a beneficiary of the suns 2nd unit, fast breaking off the defense. that’s why he beats taj in nearly every advanced stat despite the fact you wouldn’t want him playing pick and pop at all.
i’m not particularly a taj fan, and i like the suns and lou. but this is the truth.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
there was a rumor Admundson's looking for $3m guaranteed
but only so many roster spots remaining, so we’ll see.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 17, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Amundson has his suitors and may be off the table soon
Sources close to the situation say that the 6-foot-9, 225-pounder is inching closer to a decision, with at least three teams known to be actively in pursuit – Golden State, New Orleans and Indiana. One source says an unidentified fourth team remains in the mix.
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
I don't really see most of those as bad things
I don’t expect the backup PF to get to the line a lot to begin with.
I would like a PF that can run with the second unit led by someone like C.J. Watson. And Taj’s jumper is not exactly money yet anyway.
And being 2.5 years older also doesn’t mean much because he is not going to be the PF of the future.
If the rumor yfbb said is true then that makes it all the more promising.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Aug 17, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I would agree with getting Amundson
but i’m not entirely sure Rudy wants to be in the NBA. is that a risk worth taking?? I’d be more interested in a Taj for Rudy trade if we had a better 3rd big man other than Asik/Thomas.
If this deal is available for anything save Charlotte's pick.
I do not really see any conceivable way they can justify to themselves not making this deal. What Rudy already does is most likely better than anything we would get in a non lottery situation and what he could become I think is worth the risk of losing him.
If he doesn’t work out, at least we tried to make our team the best that it could have been (at this stage) with a minimal loss… If he does work out he not only creates a strong tandem with brewer at the 2 but fills a huge void that is lacking in our offense, namely 3s and floor spacing.
As far as minutes for CJ Watson and Ronnie Brewer… I don’t really care, if we have all 3 and Rudy turns out better than the others than that means we found a better player for our team. I would rather take risks now while we are below the cap and Reinsdorf might be willing to spend to near it than to wait for the next chance we can put a quality player on our team, which might be never, how often do players with the potential of Rudy Fernandez fall to you for essentially a 1 year cheap trial contract?
Taj Gibson is what he is, he is replaceable in every sense of the word to me, there are hustle players like him for cheap every single year… maybe not exact skill set, but overall they would come out as a net wash. Taj Gibson should not keep this trade from happening.
The risk is entirely worth taking.
What's the risk?
ESPN projected the Bulls to win around 50 games, and that seems to match many of the opinions around here. If there’s no championship in sight, make a move that gives you a shot. To me, this is a low risk, high upside deal.
by YaoPau on Aug 12, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Well said YaoPau
I got the skills to pay the bills and that's about it
by Rose Colored Goggles on Aug 13, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
::ahem:: I've been saying that all along.
And getting largely ignored and laughed at.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Aug 12, 2010 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And before Bogans, the Bulls had plenty of cap space to take on a contract for a "future 2nd"...
…at any time during the season. Decent veteran PFs with 2 or 3 years left, making less than $3 million are often available in a salary dump (because younger guys are getting minutes, teams are just over the lux tax or just want more cap space).
In my opinion, it has always been a no-brainer to give up Taj for Rudy (thus making a signing of Bogans unnecessary), sign Derick Byars, go after Amundson, someone similar or just wait for a trade to present itself and let Thomas play 15 mpg at PF until then.
As yf BB said in reply one time: Rudy still has potential and could make the Bulls “great” if he lives up to all of it. Taj Gibson as a backup does not do that.
But I can see why the Bulls wouldn’t do it.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
man, you have convinced me
But tomorrow, I might waiver. I can’t decide!
"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub
who are these
“Decent veteran PFs with 2 or 3 years left, making less than $3 million” of which you speak?
There are really only two plays: Romeo and Juliet, and put the darn ball in the basket.
-- Abe Lemons
This makes me even more contemptful of Rudy. Any player that would prefer to stay on the bench because he’s not getting the minutes or touches he thinks he deserves is a chump to me. A real player keeps his head in the game and keeps working hard to get their opportunity. When Rudy got his opportunity when Roy went down, his play was mediocre at best. He didn’t rise to the occassion. He needs to take his ass back to Spain.
Being creative with the The Charlotte pick
What if the Charlotte pick is offered. I know “NO!”. The Bulls were creative in the Eddie Curry trade. Why don’t they try it again. Offer next years pick and the Charlotte pick for Rudy. Portland gets next years pick (Bulls are already very deep). Now the Charlotte pick. If the draft pick is odd (1,3,5,7,9..25), the Bulls keep it. If the draft pick is even (2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 30) Portland gets it. If the Blazers get the Charlotte pick, we get there pick the following year.
It would definitely make it interesting. Plus, both blogs would have an added reason to dislike the other.
I think it's pretty clear that Portland wasn't interested in the trade most of us where hoping for
I don’t know if him getting released is a strong possibility, but doesn’t Rudy become a free agent after this season? We have a few contracts expiring adding up to about 2.5-3 mil, maybe (+ any remaining cap space), but I’m not sure that would be enough. A sign and trade would be the logical option in that case, but a lot of stuff can happen until then.
Rudy said the Fword!?
reason 142 why he should be a bull and not a blazer, blazers edge doesnt condone swear words, especially the F word….at blogabull…we embrace it and have created advanced stats as to why the Fword makes you a better person overall
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Aug 13, 2010 3:28 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Maybe the people on that site will band together and clean out his mouth with soap
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
“if I could decide my future and some NBA team could assure me some minutes”
He started the first 3 games of the playoffs and these were his averages (against Phoenix, a team not exactly known for its suffocating defense):
MPG: 26
PPG: 7.3
RPG: 2.3
APG: 1.6
SPG: 0.33
BPG: 0.00
And probably 9 of his 22 points in those first 3 games (79 minutes) were garbage 3-balls down 20 late in the 4th.
picture me rollin'
in two years hes had a good year and a bad year
i think on his rookie contract he deserves a chance to show what he can do in his third year, with portland i dont see how he really gets the chance, just due to playing time and bad history, with the bulls he gets the playing time, a chance to have any role he wants, and fresh start…i get why you might not buy his words (actually i dont, you lost your star player and had one bad year from a guy on a very cheap contract and you are pouting and playing the blame game…this is a year removed from having an eternal bliss like feeling about your team? Great fans you are) but i dont get why you believe other teams should run away from rudy…even if he sucks..hes a cheap risk who we can easily let go at the end of the season…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
hello Mr. Strawman
nice to see you again. Would you care to comment on what I actually said, or are you fine with just spewing random shit and arguing against points that I never made?
picture me rollin'
by Utah Sucks on Aug 15, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
no
im fine with just spewing random stuff and arguing against points you never made….
-sincerely,
Mr. Strawman
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Aug 15, 2010 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha
Criticizing someone for a logical fallacy when your original point was based entirely on a separate logical fallacy. 3 games is hardly a sufficient sample size to prove anything.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Aug 16, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
its about context, too, there, Utah sucks.
He was playing in place of a much different SG in a system built around that much different shooting guard. Admittedly, Michael Jordan would probably be Michael Jordan even without the triangle offense… but tell me how a young Shaq would fair in an offense built around keeping Centers on the outside to clear the lane, or how Rip Hamilton would do in an offense where he wasn’t supposed to move, and I’ll tell you those 3 games of the post season were designed for a catch and shoot, running 3 point shooter to be a slow paced, pass it around point Shooting Guard.
I’m for Rudy. I don’t think he’s our savior. But jesus, look into something you post. You’re judging a book by its final sentence. That shit never works.
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Recent trade discussions as of 8/14/2010
Miami is rumored to be offering Mario Chalmers (PG) and Drexler Pittman (Center) for Rudy Fernandez.
Orlando is rumored to be offering Daniel Orton & future 1st for Rudy Fernandez & Portland 2nd
Golden State is shopping both Monta Ellis and Andris Biedrins. Warriors are rebuilding around Stephen Curry and David Lee and are looking to reduce salaries.
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