BlogABron 7/4 - Fire up the grill
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The post-camp announcement is great news.
As most have said, announcing it beforehand would hurt and distract all the kids there. Not to mention the media storm every day of that camp. This coupled with the fact that the Bulls team was the only one not give a post-meeting interview indicates that both parties are being tight lipped for a reason. That Chris Grant post-meeting interview felt like a consolation speech. Fingers crossed.
Where is everyone?
I’m cold, wet, and just plain scared.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
Maybe the quietist of this weeks threads
Everyone has some BBQ planned. Free agents won’t commit to anything today. The rumors will be slow.
Slow roasting some baby backs
Best news so far!
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
This is the most ridiculously confusing thing ever
Is anyone else so tired of this that they don’t even care where everyone ends up? I really just want to see how this whole thing ends.
At this moment my life is one continuous Twitter feed.
But if you wanna see how this whole thing ends...
You kinda have to care where people end up, cuz that’s kinda the whole point of this whole craze
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 4, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm very interested, and I still check my computer every 5 minutes
but I’m no longer crazed, and freaking out about who the Bulls end up with. I’ve just kind of resigned myself to the fact that there’s too much bullshit floating around to get any kind of feel for what’s gonna happen. I’m just getting more and more confused as each day passes.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Lebron should eliminate one team each day until he chooses between his final teams onThursday
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
They should just make a tv show out of it, like american idol-style elimination
not that i’ve ever watched idol…but i get the general idea of what the results shows are like, and that seems appropriate
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 4, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, Clippers and Heat are probably off the island
the three star lineup seems impossible and the Clippers were too ashamed to bring their team owner.
I met one of Hinrich's Professor's at Kansas, but he never met Hinrich.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 4, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sticking to my guns..
Why (other than guilt) would LeBron go back to Cleveland? If he signs for 3 years he’s doomed anyways. He will not have won a title and by year 3 who knows what will happen. For life of me I can’t see him staying in Cleveland just to wait to go to NJ.
They have won over 60 games the past two years
If he does go back, it’s not like they’re gonna be the Timberwolves. He’s gotta choose between a decent chance to win a ring in Cleveland (HOME) or a great chance to win several rings in Chicago.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he has a decent chance to win in Cleveland
Shaq, Z, and Jamison are all old. No one else on their roster is any good. His decision is either money and being close to home or winning.
by Rose MVP on Jul 4, 2010 4:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
3 more years with Cavs = 3 more years without rings
- Lakers are still loaded
- Orlando has everyone back (and may improve) from the team that beat down the Cavs two years ago
- Boston may have everyone back
- Miami may well land Wade, Bosh, and (say) Ray Allen
- OKC is getting better every year
- Bulls without LeBron will still have Rose, Noah, Deng, Boozer/Lee, [someone else], and Tom Thibodou who knows how to shut down LBJ
All these teams could very well beat a Cleveland team that will likely have LESS talent than this year. Shaq and Z are likely gone, Jamison is a year older, Delonte is likely gone (contract + LeBron mom rumor), they had no draft pick, no cap space.
Say LBJ decides to stay 3 more years in Cleveland and doesn’t win a ring (which is likely). Then:
LeBron can NEVER get those three years back. Even if he finally leaves at 28, how many titles will he win then? Say 1-3 (even that is not assured at that point). Then he will have 1-3 titles for his career instead of potentially 4-6 if he leaves now. That is a HUGE DIFFERENCE – the difference between a KG/Isiah and a Duncan/Kobe.
If LeBron wants to stay and feel “loyal” and “comfortable” that’s his choice. But if he cares about his achievements and legacy on the court, I GUARANTEE he will someday regret not leaving this summer.
I love the way people count these titles like they're guaranteed
He might never win a ring no matter where he goes. Even the Bulls.
[...]when Giants coach Steve Owen, a certified defensive genius, was asked how he planned to stop Nagurski, he said: "With a shotgun, as he’s leaving the dressing room."
by NobodySpecial on Jul 4, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions
i think he's guaranteeing non-titles for lebron's near future
this is subtly different than guaranteeing titles with rose and noah (and deng and carlos boozer).
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
KG said
something along the lines of he wished that he had been less loyal because he felt it cost him rings… Bron should go for the glory and not the sentiment of his hometown
yeah he said that after they eliminated the cavs
that he wasted many if his prime years in minny and loyalty isn’t always the best thing.
Malone...stripped by Michael, to the floor, stolen by M.J.! Michael the steal! 16 seconds left, Bulls down 1. Michael against Russell, 12 seconds...11...10. Jordan, Jordan a drive, hangs...fires...SCORE! He scores! The Bulls lead 87-86 with five and two tenths left, and now they're one stop away...
heres what a weird story this is. its been anticipated for so long, we know all the possible outcomes; we even know the psychological
reasons behind the possible outcomes; we just need to see which one wins out. in this case, how it ends isnt even that exciting, since its basically already known; the only thing that matters is that it ends.
"If I was to answer that question honestly, I would have to lie to you."
- Isiah Thomas, when asked if any teams were interested in trading for Shandon Anderson
Reading Maverick Cater's statement kinda bothers me..
“All the Wes rumors are untrue. Wes has nothing to do with where [James] goes.”
Why?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe, who really knows what's real and fake these days
I’m banking on the fact that the Bulls are not the type of people to go through all this just because one guy like WWW tells them they have a shot. I know some people think they don’t care because they’ll just sell more tickets, but I’m not buying that. They know it’s time to finally take this team to the next level. If they really thought they’re wasn’t a shot, I think they would move on.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I think this just references the earlier article...
about the tensions within his camp. Really just an internal power struggle. I think Lebron will make up his own mind.
Technically, yes. But Leon Rose does, and Leon Rose is Wes' boy, according to Woj.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
im glad most of this non-news
is all on dem internets so i can follow all of the bs from europe. yay technology!
It was semi-cheesy. They have to play the emotional card since it's all they got.
But, I can’t help but think the Bulls pitch (and probably the Nets pitch) are in a completely different league. I wouldn’t got as far as to say the Cavs pitch was amateurish, but I don’t think the world’s greatest basketball player comes out of that meeting thinking this is a professional organization that I can stake my career and legacy on.
by rinconen on Jul 4, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just wondering what everyone thinks...
Would you rather have a lineup of
Rose, Wade, Deng, Bosh, Noah (Toronto would likely take Taj in sign/trade)
OR
Rose, Lebron, Deng, Boozer, Noah
Honestly, Lebron is #1 free agent to get BUT i might take Wade/Bosh if they are willing to make a decision by monday/tuesday
Rose,Lebron, Deng, Boozer, Noah.
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I would honestly take the Wade lineup.
But, would be ecstatic if we get either.
Agree. Doesn't matter, we'd still own.
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep, Wade and Bosh
You don’t know if Boozer will commit to playing up to his potential again.
We’d have a big four with Bosh and Wade"
Bosh, Wade, Rose, Noah > Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, Odom
Once we fill out our roster, we have a team that competes and beats L.A. on a good night.
I met one of Hinrich's Professor's at Kansas, but he never met Hinrich.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 4, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd take Lebron and Boozer
Lebron is way better than Wade, younger, and no injury history. And we can still trade Deng for a SG.
by Rose MVP on Jul 4, 2010 3:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd rather have Bron and Bosh together
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
lineup 1 only works
if wade or bosh takes a sub-max contract.
We can’t sign 2 of Lebron, Wade and Bosh unless we move Deng. We can’t move Deng unless we get Lebron, which means a Bosh-Wade signing is unlikely. Even if we send Taj and JJ in the S/T, we would still be just short according to the ESPN cap guy.
So I vote for Lebron-Boozer.
DEJESUS!!!
It's going to be hard to root for this guy next year.
That’s alright. Rose and Noah will always be ours.
I think he's referring to this:
chrisbosh
Got the chance to clear my mind today. Church and Sunday dinner with the fam was awesome!
Probably would have helped to include that
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
SOMEONE needs to soak in the HOT TUB TIME MACHINE.
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it the church part or the family dinner part you object to?
My extended family does early dinners a lot when we all get together.
Both are just terrible…
I don’t want anybody on the Bulls who goes to church and eats an early dinner with his family. It’s simply an UNAMERICAN thing to do on our great nations birthday.
by kingles on Jul 4, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Me and my collection of dead bald eagles salute you.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 4, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
if you haven't had at least 4 bud lights by 2pm
you are a communist
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 4, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And it's a given
that believing in a collectivized economic system signifies that you don’t care about your country.
Canadien, eh
The Sunday roast is a traditional British main meal served on Sundays (usually in the early afternoon for lunch)….It is popular throughout the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Ireland.
- Wikipedia
Bosh is the one we really need and the key to everything...
so it’s a great idea to insult him (for eating early?), the one addicted to social media outlets who might actually be reading this. And with a terribly childish & rude insult at that. Brilliant.
LeBron hopes to make up his mind by next Monday, July 5.
Report: Lebron James Wants to Make Decision by July 5.
Favre + 3 = ❼ = Vikings= 2009-2010 NFL Champions= New Stadium=Greatest Fans and Team!
by UnBannedVikingholic on Jul 4, 2010 3:56 PM CDT reply actions
Can't tell if people keep swearing that their dying to get an answer RIGHT NOW!
Favre + 3 = ❼ = Vikings= 2009-2010 NFL Champions= New Stadium=Greatest Fans and Team!
by UnBannedVikingholic on Jul 4, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
He could easily make the decision by tomorrow
But just wait til his camp is over to announce it.
Brad Miller is god.
Thoughts on DWade / LBJ / Bosh Dynamic? "It's Complicated"
For them I don’t think it’s a simple as “we’re buddies and we’re going to synchronize our plans”. They claim to be close friends above all, but their interests are not entirely aligned as they are also competing long-term for endorsements, championships, and legacy.
Bosh is an additional and awkward wild card factor; as a trio each is afraid that the other 2 team up without them. The Bulls have always been the most attractive of the musical chairs because any one of the big 3 can land with us and know that with Rose, Noah, etc they will be a good-to-great team for the next 5 years minimum. Unfortunately that doesn’t guarantee we don’t get shut out from “the trio”, but it makes us a useful negotiating partner, both as a realistic option and for leverage with other teams.
Finances, team, and interpersonal dynamics to me dictate that the big 3 do not land on the same team. According to the last ten minutes tweets, Wade (custody battle) and LBJ (delaying until after OH obligations) both lean to the Bulls. This situation is very fluid and I think even if they have made their decisions they probably will change their minds a few times between now and announcing, or could change plans based on conversations, negotiations, and rumors of other stars’ moves. The 8th has always been the key date, and now even more with LBJ delaying his “announcement” until after his camp.
I have faith in shrewd Uncle Jerry’s poker / negotiation abilities. It’s an exciting and scary America Day for Bulls fans.
First time poster long time lurker.
this may be a good thing though...
Maybe both wade and lebron will realize they both want to be a Bull so both will want to be the first to agree to join.
yeah, it's an optimistic view...
we’re in a good spot but it could still all go to hell….very unpredictable.
more guaranteed money to stay with current team is also hard to pass up. I don’t think LBJ cares as much about this, but Wade is older so the 6th year is worth more and he also just finalized his divorce and gave up 50% (or whatever) of his net worth to his ex-wife. No way Riley greases the wheels for DWade to the Bulls with a S&T.
I think Lebron and Wade are both scared...
of losing to the Bulls superteam every year in the playoffs. This could be a game of chicken right now. Though I personally think decisions have already been made.
Wtf is this now?
FisolaNYDN
The NY Daily News has learned that Knicks got a second meeting with LeBron’s reps on Saturday in Cleveland.
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More...
FisolaNYDN
According to Knicks official, MSG prez Scott O’Neil and Glen Grunwald, VP of basketball ops, were sent to Ohio after Amar’e agreed to deal
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Another thing: I thought Amare hadn't actually agreed to the deal yet.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
He didn't.
But, I think I read somewhere that he’d be willing to take a pay cut to play with Lebron. So, that $100 million is probably what he signs for if they don’t get Lebron.
if that were true
bulls should sign him for 5/$90mil. that is a first year of $15.3, which allows signing one of wade or james at the max and keeping gibson at $1.1mil.
rose
wade or lbj
deng
stoudemire
noah
gibson
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Yeah,
they re-pitched their idea to Joe Johnson again too after they got Amare but Johnson is back with atlanta, so must not be that great of pitch. Plus, if STAT is out there saying that he is wanting carmelo to come to NY then why would lebron be going there???
Man I wasn't a JJ hater
but re-signing with the hawks for the max money was a sign of mediocrity, like screw winning, give me the money
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 5, 2010 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions
LeBron's reps, but what about LeBron?
And who sent them? I guess Knicks brass? Probably they wanted to pitch Amare to him.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
pretty sure if this was true more people would have known sooner
is a coincidence a NY reporter tweeted this first?
Malone...stripped by Michael, to the floor, stolen by M.J.! Michael the steal! 16 seconds left, Bulls down 1. Michael against Russell, 12 seconds...11...10. Jordan, Jordan a drive, hangs...fires...SCORE! He scores! The Bulls lead 87-86 with five and two tenths left, and now they're one stop away...
you also know never know.....perhaps there was a portion of the initial presentation that was incomplete
for some reason and the knicks just asked for a few moments saturday to finish what they needed to.
Even if it is true, so what?
I’m sure LeBron and his people will be having a lot of contact with the interested teams in the coming few days.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Noooooooooooo!
Well, I’m still not scared. If he jumps to NY, then that will lock up Wade for us.
BTW, has anyone been to lebronjames.com?
What’s with the weird links? Travel Channel, some blog called the Sartorialist?
i've seen that too, it's so weird
that blog has a bunch of weird fashion photos… also a link to travel channel? i have no clue what that’s all about.
Malone...stripped by Michael, to the floor, stolen by M.J.! Michael the steal! 16 seconds left, Bulls down 1. Michael against Russell, 12 seconds...11...10. Jordan, Jordan a drive, hangs...fires...SCORE! He scores! The Bulls lead 87-86 with five and two tenths left, and now they're one stop away...
Even weirder, when I clicked on the Sartorialist...
there was this American Apparel ad on the side with the headline “Buy Gay Stuff” and two apparently gay men laying down. Great link Lebron!
lol
i get the links to this b-ball camp and his bike-a-thon, but what the hell? also, there’s like one picture of him walking wearing black gloves carrying something.
…… hints?
Malone...stripped by Michael, to the floor, stolen by M.J.! Michael the steal! 16 seconds left, Bulls down 1. Michael against Russell, 12 seconds...11...10. Jordan, Jordan a drive, hangs...fires...SCORE! He scores! The Bulls lead 87-86 with five and two tenths left, and now they're one stop away...
Postmodern sports superstar.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
The Sartorialist
is probably the most powerful fashion blog, at least street fashion, out there.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Jul 4, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
He seems like a pretty fashion forward person
He probably just likes the blog.
by birdlandkustl on Jul 4, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably already discussed
but Wade said he’d make his decision by monday or tuesday. I don’t have a link, I heard an interview with him on the radio.
DEJESUS!!!
Actually hadn't seen that yet.
Thanks for the head’s up.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
he said over the weekend he would think about everything
i dont believe he gave a specific date for the announcement
by sin on Jul 4, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder
if they’re working in cahoots together. What else could it possibly be? Makes me think that they’ve already decided where they’re going.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
Who even knows anymore?
I’ve heard/read the following:
1. They want to be on the same team, with Bosh.
2. They are competing to see which one would get Bosh on their team, wherever it may be.
3. Everyone’s waiting for LeBron to decide
4. LeBron is waiting for the pieces to fall into place
&c.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
It seems like no one
This free-agency has got to be the least revealing for fans out of any of the major sports in history. There are plenty of rumors, but nothing really definitive. Lots of grey area, and just about anything can happen at this point.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
i saw broussard on espnews about an hour ago
and he said bosh/wade/lebron will talk over the weekend. not meet. but will talk and discuss everything thats happened in the past 2/3 days
Did he cite anybody?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
usually goes like...
“MY SOURCES KEEP TELLING ME…”
…even when the information changes.
_ames _ohnson
this means nothing
For those who say it means that they intend to team up…did you talk to your friends about your choices of where to go to college? Probably. Did you all go to the same place? Probably not.
People like to discuss things with other people in the same position as them.
Here's more from Frank Isola, this is from the actual article, not a Tweet:
The sense the Knicks get is that James will likely re-sign with the Cavs. In fact, as recently as Thursday, one Knicks source said it was “very doubtful” that James would sign with New York.
At this moment my life is one continuous Twitter feed.
I trust tweets now
more than actual people that can write ;)
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
He makes it sound like the Knicks thought they and Cleveland were the only choices.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, yeah. That and LeBron's.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
not sure where you get that from...
by stanchar on Jul 4, 2010 5:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=391886
They left without a commitment from James, but feel he may be leaning toward signing with the Bulls. According to a source familiar with the discussions, the biggest factor holding James back is the guilt he would feel by leaving the Akron/Cleveland area, where he’s lived his entire life.
cool
hard to believe a writer from the herald squeezed that out of a bulls’ exec as it is implied.
by stanchar on Jul 4, 2010 5:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
if you read it, it doesnt really say what you just claimed it said.
they feel he MAY be leaning toward signing with the Bulls. This does not mean they feel he is leaning toward signing with the Bulls.
I feel Lebron James MAY sprout wings and fly.
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
FisolaNYDN
LeBron did not attend the second meeting with the Knicks.
2010:The year that changed everything
I think he trying to say
that Knicks met with the Cavs…Lebron wasnt involved
2010:The year that changed everything
Yahoo says it was to discuss contract details.
SpearsNBAYahoo
Y! Sports confirmed @FisolaNYDN report Knicks had 2nd meeting w/LeBron’s reps Sat. Meeting was primarily for detailed contract explanation
Just covering their bases.
Yup. Probably the contract scenarios with Amare, etc.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Bosh, Wade Love Eating (In Chicago)
3 days in a row.
that article
is such a waste of time…includes which table they sat at, information on where D’Antoni and Lee ate, etc…
right, I dont disrespect their profession
Jerk
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 4, 2010 8:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I like it...
I think it’s really interesting to see those 2 do really like hanging out together. I thought the video of them going into T52 was really interesting, too. I bet their agent is almost scared that they’ll both sign here… he’d be picking up alot of tabs! Then again, he’d expense them all…
Michael Wallace of Miami herald
just tweeted that the longer this plays out the stronger he feels wade, Bosh, and lebron will play together.
I dont agree but if it were to happen here how would we make it happen?
by stanchar on Jul 4, 2010 5:35 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I can see the logic.
It seems like at least two of these guys are going to team up, and I can see one not wanting to be left out in the cold.
Still, the money has to be a big factor. Has to be. So if they end up playing together, while taking pay cuts, it would likely be a situation where the roster is already strong and where the endorsements/brand recognition/revenue possibilities would be maximized. This would leave the Knicks and the Bulls, and since the Knicks are close to getting Stoudemire, I can’t see that happen. So that leaves the Bulls.
That’s a comforting though, but only if this guy’s feelings are correct. Then again, maybe he’s just “filling the air,” since “news” has slowed on this Fourth of July.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
starting five of
rose wade James Bosh Noah would be fairly decent
by stanchar on Jul 4, 2010 5:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It's a pipe dream, though.
I can see getting two of these guys, and that would be a huge coup. Hell, just one would be a victory.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Not likely in Chicago
There’s more of chance it would happen in Miami, NY, or NJ.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
I really don't think there's much of a chance they play together.
And NO chance they play together in Chicago. Two would be a stretch.
Great, we have a report of a journalist's feelings now.
Based on conjecture and, apparently, nothing else.
Exactly.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
At least most reports were "sources say" or something.
I dunno if “sources say” has become a euphemism for “I think” quite yet.
PDcavsinsider
Knicks met with LeBron’s agent Sat. in CLE to make new pitch with Amar’e in fold. LeBron wasn’t there, had dinner w/ friends in Akron.
2010:The year that changed everything
SpearsNBAYahoo
Y! Sports confirmed @FisolaNYDN report Knicks had 2nd meeting w/LeBron’s reps Sat. Meeting was primarily for detailed contract explanation
2010:The year that changed everything
PDcavsinsider
Knicks have a new chip in game with Amare & they’re taking it for a spin. Bulls, Heat had same battle plan if they’d gotten a commitment.
2010:The year that changed everything
PDcavsinsider
What Knicks really want is LeBron to visit NY with Amar’e to try to close deal. LeBron has been non-committal so far.
2010:The year that changed everything
Don't committ Lebron! DON'T COMMITT!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm still not worried about the Knicks
this is just them trying to get his attention again, and his agent doing his job as the agent and meeting with them. Cavs/Bulls still the main option for ’Bron.
If the Bulls could close the deal on Bosh, I think we’d be real hard to turn down.
Yeah, but never underestimate.
Still, I largely agree with you.
I think if Bosh were to agree to terms somewhere, particularly the Bulls, that would get things moving big time.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
oh i hear ya
at this point NOTHING would surprise me, but I’m not freaking out over the latest Knicks news. Bosh does seem to be holding everything up. I wonder how Lebron/Wade would feel if the Bulls locked up Boozer instead. That’s not my preference, but how long will the Bulls wait?
I'm so confused
So, getting Stoudemire is supposed to be some kind of boon to get Lebron to come there? If that was the case, why didn’t we go hard after Stoudemire? This whole thing has my head spinning.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure, but why would Lebron
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Got cut off there
Why would Lebron’s people agree to meet up with them? And discuss contract details?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
For what it's worth, Walsh did say they expected a second meeting.
This is probably due to their previous meeting being open-ended in the sense that the Knicks were looking at what they could add to their roster to try and lure him and the contract possibilities necessary to pull off a superstar pairing.
And, for what it’s worth, Isola’s article did cite a Knicks source that said they were “very doubtful” about getting LeBron.
Due diligence.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
The Knicks are desperate.
They want to show LeBron that they got him an All Star to play with or something. I dunno. Lebron’s team just wants to make sure no stone goes unturned, IMO, they don’t want to miss an opportunity and that means making sure they have all the details.
Lebron's not playing for D'antoni. He's not a defensive-minded coach.
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Mike brown was defensive-minded..
Look at him now …
One of the Knicks' weak points was their roster.
I guess they’re thinking, “Hey, look, we got this Amare. He’s an All-Star. Isn’t that better?”
Still, I can’t see how just Amare would improve their roster THAT much in LBJ’s eyes, particularly since there’s still the possibility of teaming up with a younger, less-injury-prone Chris Bosh. (Although, supposedly LeBron isn’t necessarily tied to Bosh.)
The Knicks are just putting all their eggs in one basket at this point, or so it seems. Joe Johnson is off the board, and it looks like Wade is legitimately torn between Chicago and Miami.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
agree, but
I can’t rip them for thinking it’ll make a difference. If we signed Amare it’d be considered great ammo in recruiting
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 4, 2010 8:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Here is how I think it will play out
the big decision is whether or not Lebron will stay in Cleveland or go to Chicago. I have no idea what he ultimately decides, I think he is really torn (sorry conspiracy theorists).
Meanwhile, Wade/Bosh are joined at the hip and will only part ways if Lebron joins the Bulls and the Bulls can work out a sign and trade with Toronto. All this stuff leaking to the press about Wade’s family situation has me believing he is softening the blow if he leaves Miami. Its like he is saying "I would love to stay on South Beach, but I have this family situation, plus the Bulls are not as bad as I thought and they got an okay team…" Bosh will follow Wade til the ends of the earth, like Sam Gangi and Frodo, so he will go to Chi-town as well.
So I’m working under three premises:
1. Lebron is choosing between Cleveland and Chicago
2. Wade is choosing between Chicago and Miami, but leaning towards Chicago.
3. Bosh wants to play with Wade or Lebron.
If Lebron stays in Cleveland:
Bosh and Wade become a tandem for either Chicago or Miami. I think this is the reason why the Bulls are so calm. They know they have Lebron or Wade/Bosh in the bag.
That leaves Boozer to go to Miami along with a bunch of lesser guys, and Eric Spolestra to keep his job. New Jersey takes a couple of the lesser wings of the market and they play up the young up and coming team aspect. NY, if it hasn’t pissed off Lee too much, resigns him along with A’mare. If they have pissed him off, he goes to New Jersey.
If Lebron goes to the Bulls:
than the Bulls sign one of the lesser power forwards or get Bosh in a sign an trade from Toronto. This scenario I think involves a little more player movement on the Bulls part. Wade stays in Miami and gets Boozer and some lesser wing player (Mike Miller) to team up with him.
So my final prediction -
Lebron and Wade are hanging out with Bosh, Kanye West, World Wide Wes, Jay-Z, Gar Foreman and Obama to hammer this shit out. They all are drinking Jay-Z personal Vodka and smoking blunts, except Barack of course. Wade leans over and says "What are you doing man, I can’t wait around forever? Pat Riley has me under 24 hour surveillance" Lebron takes a deep breath and says "I can’t leave Cleveland. I have unfinished business." Wade says cool, him and Bosh tell Gar to make it happen, and the Bulls end up with Wade/Bosh. Kanye West writes the theme song for their documentary,one of Taj/JJ/Deng won’t be hear next year to make way for Bosh/Wade (probably the guy who studies Kung Fu), and all the Bulls fans rejoice, forget all the nasty shit they said about Wade, and watch our homegrown backcourt become the best thing since Frazier/Monroe.
Lebron stays in Cleveland and they keep winning 58-62 games. Bulls, Cavs, Celtics, Magic best teams in the East next year. NY is better than people think. New Jersey and Miami are considered the losers in free agency. The Clippers remain the Clippers.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 4, 2010 5:52 PM CDT reply actions 8 recs
I'll take it
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Best book i've read in a long while.
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
haha, well done
I would be very pleased with that scenario. Although there’s still about a million ways this thing could go.
You made a really interesting point in there though:
All this stuff leaking to the press about Wade’s family situation has me believing he is softening the blow if he leaves Miami.
That makes a ton of sense, I haven’t thought about that angle.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, I really hope that's true
though it’s a bit fucked up to use your children’s welfare as a means to appease basketball fans.
Well, for what it's worth, perhaps the gravity of the family situation really got to him.
I can only assume that it did.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 4, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
It could be THAT or maybe Wade really is that cold and calculating.
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Wade risks pissing off a lot of Chicago peeps by licking
our inner thighs so to speak and then staying south…..he likely doesn’t care, just making the point.
Good point and thanx for the image.
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
You left out the scenario
where Lebron stays in Cleveland, and then Bosh and Wade go to Miami.
Where does that leave the Bulls?
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
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man, haven't read it yet
But I wish I was around to delete it.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 4, 2010 8:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
Anyone seen More than a Game? The movie about LeBron's high school team.
I watched it this afternoon while waiting for some brisket to slow cook on the grill. Good documentary. First off, it made me see how important Akron is to LeBron. I can see why this decision will be difficult for him. Second, there was an interesting part of the movie where him and three of his AAU buddies decide to attend a catholic high school in a different part of town instead of another high school many of the people in his community want them to attend. Long story short, although he disappointed people in his community in the short term, in the long run, he understands that he made the right decision as his high school squad wins 3/4 state titles and finishes his senior season ranked number 1 in the nation.
In this case, I really, really hope history repeats himself. Lord knows if he bolts for the Bulls, he won’t regret it.
Yeah, it's actually a really good story.
I appreciate how it stops once LBJ made it into the NBA. The story is about this group of high school boys that knew they could achieve their dream – and the documentary stays true to it.
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by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 4, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
i only watched it because im confident we're getting him
i didnt bother with it when it came out
by sin on Jul 4, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Very good documentary
Particularly liked the redemption stuff with the coach (who the movie’s really about). And yet, I thought that too. He’s done it before so why wouldn’t he do it again?
our pf gunna be a fatass
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by sin on Jul 4, 2010 7:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Except
that the Cubs confirmed their sucktitude continued.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
Jesus, he really is a twitter freak!
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Continue riding their shirtails Chris!
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
New article by Woj:
A lot of very interesting stuff in here. Definitely a must read. For the first time, I am absolutely convinced he’s going back to Cleveland. I’m officially praying for D Wade. That’s the guy we gotta get. Make it happen Garpax!
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And to be honest, this could be for the best
As the team is constructed right now, we could insert a SG and SF and be frickin awesome. Let’s just hope it’s Wade and Bosh.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Also there's this quote from Ken Berger:
The Cavs, who came out of Saturday’s presentations to James feeling they are still the overwhelming favorites to retain him, are continuing to pursue Bulls free-agent center Brad Miller, sources said.
Everyone is better off focusing their attention on what else we can do to get the team better, doesn’t look like this is gonna happen.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
This may be telling
He needed the threat of leaving, even if there was never truly the intent.
He’d be dumb and even more immature if he never weighed his options. I believe he’ll stay; I know full well, I couldn’t leave if I were in his shoes. The Cavs got three years to change his mind about winning in Cleveland.
The Bulls will be fine. Go get Wade and Lee/Bosh.
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ive been saying all week we'll get lebron
but i kinda dont want to after that. i could care less for cleveland but thats a city thats just going to die. way too much to put on one man’s shoulders but its on his shoulders and it sucks for him
by sin on Jul 4, 2010 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
well I sorta feel for him also
but if he stays its all for the city and loyalty becuase they wont win a title within the next 3 years..it wont be about winning
2010:The year that changed everything
thats absolutely not true
boston is on the decline and has now lost thibs and possibly ray ray
orlando has yet to show they can take it to the next level
cleveland still had 60 win back to back seasons
theres no reason they cant do the same this year and possibly get further
unless wade/bosh join the bulls theres no other team thats getting significantly better than the cavs in the east at least
by sin on Jul 4, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Mos def
They need to do a S/T just to improve. Otherwise you’re right; way to much pressure for even a player of his caliber to burden.
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The Cavs had 7 years to show him they could build a winner
They couldn’t. They drafted LUKE JACKSON in the lottery the year after LeBron (passing up about 6-7 future All-Stars), traded a lottery pick for JIRI WELCH, blew tons of money on guys like LARRY HUGHES and ANDERSON VAREJO.
If LeBron stays he doesn’t ultimately care about winning. Period. For all his physical talent (which greatly exceeds Kobe’s IMO), he will be mentally and emotionally “choking” by failing to have the courage to make the difficult but correct decision to go where he can best WIN.
I dunno. I think the Cavs really have no choice right now but to be as optimistic as possible.
It may be true that they have the upper hand…but I’m cautiously optimistic, if only because the Bulls seem to have been so damn quiet about everything. If things remain quiet on Monday and Tuesday…I think the Bulls have a great chance.
It may just be another three or four days of “this team is the favorite” all the way up until he actually makes the decision.
this article is nothing new
Woj just taking a chance to make himself feel superior to people who make tons more money than he ever could dream of
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 4, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
i ain't buyin' it
lebron may well stay, but not ‘cause he temporarily booted world wide wes for yappin’ too much. or ’cause the cavs will still be about as good as the other teams in the east.
the thing i do believe is that he’s still too immature to make the decision to leave. but that isn’t expressly stated by woj, you’d have to read between the lines.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Then there's this:
Again, I confirm Maverick Carter will be in NY wednesday, and that scott o’neill is en route to ohio.
From what I’m hearing yes…RT @LeBron23NYK: @TommyDeeTKB is it confirmed that MSG/Knicks ppl are on their way to Cle right now?
Hate to tease. Early, but it’s looking VERY good for the #knicks in terms of LBJ. Again, trying to confirm. Stay tuned. Read blog tomorrow.
From some guy named Tommy Dee that covers the Knicks. All from his Twitter page.
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Why do the Knicks keep thinking they're in this?
I don’t get it. Who would want to play with Amare Freaking 8 surgeries Stodemire.
everyday that goes past is making me think that this will go down
Lebron signs 3 year contract with Cavs
Wade and Bosh together at Miami
Bulls sign for Lee or Boozer
(JJ already with Atlanta )
That would be worse case scenario
I think Wade rather play in Chicago right now, unless they have an agreement with Toronto to get Bosh in a s/t.
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i personally think wade is really on the fence
and bosh is going to be the one that pulls him to our side.
it seems bosh and wade want to be together. their agent is the same which could push for a package deal of wade/bosh.
and im sure bosh would rather play in chicago than with no guaranteed roster in miami.
i really think bosh is the one that pulls him one way or the other.
by sin on Jul 4, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
bosh wants a major market as well, purportedly.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Get off the ledge people.
We’re getting either LeBron or Wade. I’m the most pessimistic person in the world and I’m sure we’re getting one of these two. Here’s why:
1) LeBron’s announcement is post-camp. I knew beforehand that meant he was leaving . And if he’s leaving, he’s coming here.
2) Even if we don’t get him, that means Wade’s not getting him either. And if Wade doesn’t get him, he’s coming here for sure.
by wilsoneads on Jul 4, 2010 7:31 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
exactly
we’re fine.
go save money for your jerseys now guys
by sin on Jul 4, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you! We already got a good core in place no matter what!
We’ve been hearing a lot of rumor and speculation and thats all it is! These journalists and unnamed executives are not MIND READERS! So let’s chill out and see what happens thursday.
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
"get a Bulls jersey fellas!"
-Kobe, to SoulEater
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 4, 2010 8:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
please don't bring THAT up!
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I love the confidence......
I am going to hold you to this.
That's cool. I'm just sayin; don't let all this rumor mongering fuck up your day.
I truly believe when this is all over Wade or Bron will be in a Bulls jersey. Lebron says he cares about winning but he’s gonna stay in cleveland where he might not win for at least 2or3 years? You’re gonna sacrifice 3 years of your Prime? Did you not learn from Kevin Garnett? I understand it’s a lot on his shoulders but Cleveland will be ok………they still got the buckeyes! HA HA HAHAHAAAAAAAA!!
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think i'm now a pessimist in terms of getting Lebron
Maybe the Bulls thought the same thing and thats why they are trying to get Wade/Bosh. If anything, I hope Lebron goes to NY with stoudemire… I feel that would encourage wade and bosh to go to chicago.
I don't know if I can take it much longer.
PDcavsinsider
According to league source, Knicks are planning another trip to Cleveland to meet with LeBron tonight.
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PDcavsinsider
The sense is the Knicks have different outlook since getting to brink with Amar’e and have a new pitch to sell they didn’t have on Thursday.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Then this (I hate Twitter)
PDcavsinsider
Knicks fans may want to kill this messenger, but multiple sources still say NY still trailing CLE, CHI, NJ on LeBron’s list even w/ Amar’e
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
There ya go! All better now?
If any team other than the Cavs are gonna snag Lebron it’s gonna be US!
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
(sigh) or new jersey
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Lebron to the Knicks? Wade and Bosh to the Bulls?
Could it be?
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Even if this DOES happen the Bulls will be the better team. Not by much but they will be better.
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
wrong
Rose
Wade
Deng
Bosh
Noah
would be far better than
Douglas
Chandler
Lebron
Gallinari
Amare
assuming that would be the Knick lineup…
People keep saying that
but who will be available that can really make a difference? Melo ain’t leaving, and even if he did, they wouldn’t have enough to get him. Maybe they can use Eddy’s expiring in a trade, that’s probably the best they can hope for.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
The only PGs/SGs worth noting are
Aaron Brooks(RFA)
Jamal Crawford
Mo Williams
Delonte West
CDR
Redd
J-Rich
Doesn’t exactly blow you away does it?
I love your confidence and you might be right!
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
meant to reply to tuff gong..
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
even better
rose
sg
carmelo anthony
bosh or amare
noah
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
I agree, but Lebron is still the best player in the world, so things could change quickly with a few good moves
Plus, our team would seriously lack outside shooting. I can’t remember a team that won a championship without one serious perimeter threat on their team. This is assuming Luol doesn’t improve.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
You guys are seriously impressing me.
This might be the busiest blog out here right now. Not surprisingly, with the tide of free agents, your cap space and your core of solid players, but still impressive.
Shows that most of you are real basketball-heads. No surprise either.
If my Celtics don’t win it next season, please, let it be you guys who go for a couple more three-peats… that would sincerely put you guys above the Suns in my list of favorite squads.
Cheers.
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by Kiorrik on Jul 4, 2010 8:39 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
WASSUP BOSTON!!! TELL KG CHI-TOWN SAYS HI!
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
you should see the activity
between 8am and 5pm on a work day.
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hey I have a job
its just Eastern time zone, and from 6 AM to 2 PM.
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I hear ya.
I’m in Sydney at the moment, it’s 11:48 am right now :)
But yeh; I was mostly referring to the whole high-numbers-of-comments thing, and the new topics every day.
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I think you should be frightened more than impressed
Nonetheless, appreciate the sentiment. Always fun to hear from cool fans of other teams. Btw, is Sheed retiring or what?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes; "Sheed is retiring or what".
I included the “or what” part, because there’s rumors going around about how he would stick around.
Personally, I’d love to have him back. He’s better than his stats, or his image, and that makes him a good fit. His D is relatively underestimated, which I love.
But yeh, I’ve used the words “fear” and “scary” in describing the possible “Chicago of the future” before, and I will probably do so again ;)
Pants shall be shat.
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lol, I didn't mean "frightened" as in, you should be scared of our team
although, I wouldn’t mind that ;)
What I meant is that you should be frightened, not impressed, that all of us are devoting this much time and energy into the madness that is 2010 free agency
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Hahaha :D
Ah man, I’m one of yas :D
I scour all the SB Nation blogs (and some Celtic ones on the side) for news as well ;)
Oh, and I keep an eye on Twitter as well ;) Nah, I’m not frightened of the likes of you :D haha
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great article.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/columns/story?columnist=jackson_scoop&id=5349997
i agree 100 percent with what this man says. don’t lose derrick rose by signing james or wade. go after bosh or amare. leave some room for anthony next year or make a trade for him now. that would be the smartest and best fit for the bulls.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
So now we're goin after Carmello?!
Jesus, i just want this to be OVER!!
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
don't mean to sound like an asshole, but this is drivin me BONKERS!
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by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
dude, i was saying this is what the bulls should do. it’s a better fit for the team. this guy is right, james wade and rose have similar styles. but signing amare or bosh and carmelo. he’d look bad ass in a bulls jersey. i want the bulls to get back to contending for titles but not by virtue of james. i don’t think he even deserves to be a bull. dissing them by dancing on their floor. my biggest issue, is that by signing either wade or james, the bulls are sending the wrong message to rose. he needs the ball in his hands. the guy has all the makings of a great player. hec, he already is. and will only get better. a team featuring carmelo bosh and rose is a title contender in a hurry.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
Sorry man...
But Wade or Lebron > Rose…. now, 5 years from now, whenever. You don’t want to sign arguably the best player in the NBA because of “sending the wrong message” to Rose? That is a terrible argument. Rose is a complimentary player, albeit a great one, but he is not “the man”. He wasn’t at Memphis, and he’s not going to be one on the Bulls if they are a championship team.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 4, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
i am not saying he needs to be. i am saying mainly his style doesn’t mesh with james or wade. i would sign bosh and if they add carmelo, he’d be the main guy not rose. but rose is a great player, i think your selling him short.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
sounds a lot like
the ESPN article today. This argument is a massive gamble, IMO. Especially since the Bulls can get over the hump with landing Bosh and Wade now.
i honestly don’t think they will have good chemistry. noah doesn’t like james. they will have a star studded team, but not necessarily a championship team. which one would u rather have?
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
your argument is the exact same things
said in that one ESPN article today. This argument is a massive gamble, IMO. Especially since the Bulls can get over the hump with landing Bosh and Wade now.
Bulls need to add as much talent as they can NOW.
Let the coaches worry about making them mesh together. If they don’t, then they really wouldn’t have much trouble moving James, Wade, Bosh, or Rose for a different star player who might “fit” better.
You don’t refuse to sign Lebron or Wade for ANY reason PERIOD. It would be insane.
Dwayne Wade's not good enough for us
We totally needed Joe Johnson. :/
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
come on man
A second round exit in exchange for a maybe shot at a free agent next year who might not even be on the market and even if he is, you’re going to be competing with 4-5 other teams to get him? We have 3 great players in front of us right now and we’re in the best situation by far. You can’t pass that up.
Let's say we go that route.
What’s to say Mello even signs with the Bulls? If they have a really good chance to get Wade or LeBron now, they should take that chance. The Bulls shouldn’t just blow them off and hope Mello signs with us. If he doesn’t, they’ve shot themselves in the foot.
"Nothing can happen till you swing the bat."
-Haruko Haruhara
by windycitywarrior on Jul 4, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
denver has already said it would entertain offers from teams, lest they lose him for nothing in return.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
Only teams like the Knicks go that route
not the bulls
perhaps a trade involving deng+
anthony would have to agree to his extention, agree to team with rose, bosh and noah
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Holy shit, you actually agree with that column?
I think that’s literally the worst piece of basketball writing I’ve read in a very long time.
At this moment my life is one continuous Twitter feed.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
the guy makes a lot of sense. do u really think james and rose can play together? not good chemistry if u ask me.
"the man who created a legend; the legend who resurrected a franchise."
I don't think, I KNOW they can play together
The column was ridiculous, it made no sense, and Sccop Jackson is a pretty nonsensical guy. Lebron and Rose would be beasts together, just because they are supremely talented. Take Jordan and Pippen for example. When you look at them purely in terms of their basketball skills, would you think they’d be a good match if you never saw them play together? Probably not. The key is to find the right mix to put around your superstar players
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
THANK YOU!!!!
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
And also BOTH are UNSELFISH and can score!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree Im sick of hearing that to
dio ray, paul and kevin have are ruff time playing together?how about pau and kobe or odem and artest, magic, Kareem
.All won championships because great players make other players great,I think they would be fine taking turns scoring 30-40 pts a game
My prediction is wade comes home and we get bosh or david lee to join him,ithink guilt will get to LBJ about leaving the city and he’ll stay(Im 50- 50 on that) but if he really wants to win the you know where he ends up CHI-Town
plan B shoud be Mello,
"Cleveland suck's":Joakim Noah:2010
by joaroselabrosh on Jul 5, 2010 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Everyone knows you can’t put Jordan, and Pippen together…
Their games are too similar, blah, blah, blah…
It is difficult for me to understand how ANYONE, but especially a Bulls fan, could fall for the arguement that star players with similar styles and skill sets can’t play together. Plus playing with James or Wade would probably help Rose expand his game as well. I’m sure Pippen learned plenty of tricks from Jordan.
That was another idiotic article by Scoop Jackson, but apparently
you bought his crap. Sure it was an attempt to sound smart, but if’s actually a pile of bull shit.
by Scotter on Jul 4, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love that word
BULLshit
Can you get ❼ Lebron? Can you get 1 Vikings? 2010 is the year to do it!!
by UnBannedVikingholic on Jul 5, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Wade Bandwagon
I think it is funny how bulls fans now want D-Wade on the bulls, before most bulls fans didn’t want anything to do with him because of his comments about loyalty. I wonder if bulls fans will go back to hating him, if Wade chooses to go back to Miami. I said this before, i don’t really care who the bulls get as long as it isn’t pargo, amare, and joe johnson……….give me Lee and couple of players that can hit 3’s and it will be a good offfseason for me, but not a great one
It was clear that Riley was in his head.
Riley is 80 times smarter than D-Wade and had, up until this point, somehow convinced him to not even PURSUE free agency. Imagine that. Luckily Wade got away from his clutches and came to his senses. But since Riley’s going to meet with him again (supposedly) he’s going to get a chance to reprogram him. Which = we’re screwed.
this statement has no basis in reality. Wade has been talking about testing the waters all season
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 4, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Up until about a month beforehand.
When he said he was staying in Miami. And I’m betting that right before that month started is when Riley talked to him.
Are you questioning my basketball integrity?
Well you should, because I don’t have any.
At this moment my life is one continuous Twitter feed.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
chadfordinsider
While we’re waiting on the Knicks link … here’s the latest on DWade: http://es.pn/d3VVQV
read that article..it really makes me think Wade is coming here
2010:The year that changed everything
He is making a documentary film
I believe Wade is leaving Miami, when he announces he is going to sign with the bulls, until then, i think this is just drama for his film
If he chooses the money over his family, that film will have a very depressing ending
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
This quote REALLY makes me think that
Wade’s signing with Chicago if we don’t get LBJ (and that’s a big IF lol… I’m not saying we aren’t)
Wade: “You go through a whole season, even the last two seasons, and feel incomplete in a way, no matter what kind of success you have, because you don’t have the most important thing to you with you,” Wade told AP two weeks ago. “My boys. To be able to have this relationship with them as I have since this summer, it’s been probably the best feeling I’ve had since winning the championship. I don’t think people really understand that.”
I don’t have a link, someone on RealGM posted it.
Link
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/17626/family-has-wade-thinking-chicago
Bulls fan since 1986.
by Dominicanbull on Jul 4, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
yep
At this moment my life is one continuous Twitter feed.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 4, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
trü dat!
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Chris_Broussard
CHI says to LBJ owner Jerry Reinsdorf willing to spend $ when opp to win titles…says proved it with MJ’s $30 mill contract & w/White Sox
2010:The year that changed everything
Can't really argue with that...
He paid Jordan what he wanted, and I’m not a Sox fan, but he gave the okay for the Peavy and Rios deals last year.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 4, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
LEBRON TO BULLS!! It's back on again!!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Money or Winning?
Some players like amare and JJ are leaving and staying on thier teams just for the money, now lets see if Lebron, Wade and Bosh wants to win championships and move to a team that already has talent like the bulls or move to chicago because of personal reasons(kids)
If we get James and Wade, Reinsdorf is "the guy"!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
don't know if this was linked yet...
but according to this, knicks don’t exactly have amare locked up:
“He spent the weekend in N.Y. with his agent,” Walsh said. “He went to some baseball games. [Coach] Mike [D’Antoni] met with him today to talk basketball and some personal issue this morning. We’re meeting with him tomorrow. We haven’t sat down and talked contract [with] him at all.”
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Just saw the ESPN crawl that he went to Donnie Walsh's 4th of July party today.
Kind of funny that of all people, Amare is the one they’re the closest to locking up given the issues between him and D’Antoni.
money talks, bs walks.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 5, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
So do you guys think any commitments will be heard tomorrow for our Bulls?
2010:The year that changed everything
if they are waitng for Lebron, which I think they are
than no.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 4, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure Wade is waiting on anyone but himself at this point.
I could easily see him pulling the trigger first.
maybe wade?
didn’t wade say he was going to have “the weekend” to think about the choices. i dont know. maybe.
IraHeatBeat
Just confirmed, Wade has meeting scheduled later this week with Heat owner Micky Arison, the ultimate power pairing. Last voice is critical.
So this most likely means we wont hear anything from the Big 3 until Thursday…great…pretty much another whole week of this shit
2010:The year that changed everything
i've gotta think this is a pretty good sign for us though
things must be pretty damn serious if they’re scheduling a sitdown like this. who knows, maybe Wade gives him the “it’s been great playing here, but i have to do what’s best for my family.” what new things could the owner say at this point that Wade doesn’t already know?
The Raptors, who have fielded calls from “half the league,” the source says, currently have six sign-and-trade proposals ready to be executed. Offers from Miami and Chicago, according to the source, are being more heavily considered than the rest.
It looks like Bosh has multiple offers, and the one’s he is considering the most are Heat and Bulls, and that the Raptors are just waiting for the word from him on which deal to take.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 4, 2010 10:24 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
if they can somehow trade deng ....
itsover! In a good way
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 5, 2010 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions
OT: but whats with the name?
are you a bulls fan, a cavs fan or a lebron fan?
sorry if you’ve already commented on that, but it’s pretty tough to read everything in every thread these days
Jake’s got it right. I am a Lebron fan and I was a Cavs fan but 5 years of screwing up the roster and refusing to make slam dunk deals (getting Jamison because you don’t want to give up JJ Hickson tfor Amare) is the reason they’re not in a position to win. And i’m hoping Lebron chooses the Bulls because imo it’s the best team for him.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 4, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
So now you're just a LeBron fan?
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 4, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Really...who cares?
He offers thoughtful comments and insights to our conversation…he can call himself anything he likes…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Just as long as he isn't one of those greek gods ...
I really hate those guys.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
You misunderstand....
I simply meant it as a suggestion to him because he has been asked so many times
Good day mate ...
"Cleveland suck's":Joakim Noah:2010
by joaroselabrosh on Jul 5, 2010 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions
You could have just summarized that by saying you are a Lebron Fan
..and not a Cavs fan. Don’t worry, there’s plenty of bandwagon fans like you.
And since you are a bandwagon fan, I’ll forgive you for your poor knowledge of the Cavs. JJ Hickson WAS offered to the Suns for Amare, but the Suns were the ones that backed out of the deal.
if the bulls
can pull the trigger on this, they should.
unless they really know they are getting wade or lebron. i’d rather push hard for chris bosh than strike out..
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
I'd be pretty happy with Bosh
and an SG who can shoot the 3. Morrow, Korver, Miller, Reddick in that order. Then a combo guard, Asik and some fillers for the minimum, and call it an offseason.
Rose/Combo
Morrow/Combo
Deng/JJ
Bosh/taj
Noah/Asik
More than likely that’s a 55-60 game winner, and a contender. Not the star studded dream roster, but something I could certainly live with.
nope - patience is a virtue.
and will likely pay off big this week.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
i don't like the odds stacked against me either, jaina!
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
So we have the edge?
The Bulls have the assets to get the deal done, but Miami, which has only Michael Beasley and Mario Chalmers on contract for next season, would have to offer an enticing package of draft picks to go along with the compulsory hefty trade exception for the Raptors to agree.
plus our Charlotte pick will likely be better than any pick from Miami
assuming Miami becomes a top 2 or 3 team during the years of the picks they give up.
i really hope the bulls aren't giving that away!
there is no reason to include the best pick this team will hopefully see in a long while when bosh has all the leverage.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
This only proves one thing to me
He’s waiting Wade to decide and then follow him. If he decides to play for Chicago, Bosh will demand that sign-and-trade. If Wade decides to play in Miami, he would demand a sign-and-trade with the Heat
Stage one: Fire Vinny (check)
Stage two: Hire a good coach (check)
Stage three: Draft a SG who shoots 3 (failed)
Stage four: Sign a top 3 FA
Stage five: Trade Deng, Hinrich, whoever not named Rose or Noah to get another top FA (partially check)
I don't think he is- that would be weird
He’s former Irish with Lebron- he probably has all of the clout in the world with Lebron staying in their home town
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
Would be funny to see him go there
And end up being Karl Malone.
Honestly...
my ideal scenario would be
- signing Lee
- Rose and Noah both becoming top 15 players
- winning championships with Rose/Noah at the helm
Of course, I’ll take Lebron too
I've determined there's five possibilities
Four of the five are good for the Bulls. One is most desirable to five which is least desirable.
1. LeBron teams up with Bosh/Boozer/Lee and comes to Chicago to dominate the NBA for the next decade. Wade is left in the dust.
2. LeBron stays in Clevelend and Dwyane Wade teams up with Bosh/Boozer/Lee in Chicago. Chicago dominates the NBA.
3. LeBron teams up with Bosh in New Jersey, and Dwyane Wade realized he’s screwed if he returns to Miami, and teams up with Boozer/Lee to form an intense Eastern Conference rivalry with the Nets.
4. LeBron returns to Cleveland and Wade returns to Miami, however Bosh/Boozer/Lee and then some come to Chicago to create a great team. The Bulls and Cavs battle out the Eastern Conference.
5. LeBron returns to Cleveland and Bosh teams up with Wade in Miami, only to leave the Bulls with Boozer/Lee and then some. The Bulls, Heat, and Cavs battle out the Eastern Conference.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 4, 2010 10:59 PM CDT reply actions
Wouldn't count out Orlando
or the Celtics just yet.
Or hell, even the Hawks, if they manage to bring back Childress and he’s decent.
I wonder if Childress is still sportin that huge afro.
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Orlando will always go deep in the east but I don’t see them going all the way. I don’t think you can be a championship team if your paying Rashard Lewis that much for that long. That, and the fact that Jameer and Vince are on the trading block tells me they know it too.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 4, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
This is what I’ve been saying to try and get pessimistic Bulls fan to be a little happier. Worst cast scenario for you guys is damn good. I think Lebron will go to the Bulls, if he doesn’t I think Wade will, if they are both silly enough to not go the Bulls will still get an all start PF and have money left over to get solid role players (shooters etc).
You were a 1st round playoff team last season, in your worst case scenario add an all star PF and good role players and your a top 4 team in the east. Best case scenario and your championship favorites. That’s a better worst case/best case scenario than pretty much any other team.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 4, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lets all just chill for a bit...
As of right now, I think every possibility fathomable has been presented, and thus we should all go do something else for a while and leave the ball in LeBron’s court. If ESPN simply stopped talking about LeBron for a day or two, he’d get nervous about not having his name on ESPNEWS every 5 seconds and he’d come out and say who he’s signing with…just a suggestion…
What's more annoying than people coming up with dream scenarios
are the condescending ones with the unknown wisdom to tell everyone to just “chill for a bit.”
by NittanyCub on Jul 4, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously, we could ALL use a rest from this insanity.
Thursday will be here soon enough. Signing off guys.
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm back! Did we get Lebron yet?
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol
You have an iron will, the mental fortitude of a true warrior
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 4, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
i've had my share of dream scenarios
all i’m saying is that if LeBron suddenly turned on the TV and didn’t see himself, the anxiety would start to set in and he’d cave and sign with the BULLS!
impossible for espn
along with the “world cup” news tab and the “MLB” news tab, they have the “LeBron” news tab.
League sources said he’s deciding from among the Cavaliers, Bulls and Nets.
At this moment my life is one continuous Twitter feed.
Thanx Juice, my hair was just starting to grow back.....
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 4, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Somewhere a bunch of Knicks executives have started crying.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 4, 2010 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's great news!!!
the only thing that as me wondering is I thhink bosh rather play with wade
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 4, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
what do guys think happen to the big three if bron joins the bulls
I’m not sure how the dyanmaics work between them. Who will bosh follow?
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 5, 2010 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions
lebron
it’s pretty well known playing with lebron is his #1 option. just not in cleveland, cause y’know it’s cleveland. if lebron stays, i think he follows wade or s&t to Houston.
Malone...stripped by Michael, to the floor, stolen by M.J.! Michael the steal! 16 seconds left, Bulls down 1. Michael against Russell, 12 seconds...11...10. Jordan, Jordan a drive, hangs...fires...SCORE! He scores! The Bulls lead 87-86 with five and two tenths left, and now they're one stop away...
So he's deciding from the Bulls, Bulls, and the Bulls?
Oh my god we win.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
From that article:
His decision likely will come later this week, perhaps Wednesday night or Thursday. That’s the first day teams are permitted to sign free agents.
Although many Nets’ fans — and those whose teams are in the race — have been pulling out their hair waiting for James’ decision, the longer it goes could mean he’s leaning toward changing teams.
Put 2 and 2 together people. His camp is in Akron, if was staying he could say it now and be a hero at the camp. He’s not saying it now because he hasn’t got good news for them. That’s the only logical reason to wait for the camp to be over.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 5, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Could be
kind of a distraction either way, but that makes some sense
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jul 5, 2010 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
i dont believe logic because logic doesnt guarantee we have all the relevant information.
i cant imagine the bulls getting any of the big 3, which is what i say every day to keep myself stable.
"If I was to answer that question honestly, I would have to lie to you."
- Isiah Thomas, when asked if any teams were interested in trading for Shandon Anderson
u can't even imagine?
you are radically pessimistic
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 5, 2010 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Again, I wouldn't read too much into that.
Several reports said he was impressed with the Nets’ pitch, plus they have some talented players already on the roster and more cap room, so that’s to be expected.
The Cavs are the home team, so yes.
And the Bulls offer him a shot at the modern-day legacy of legacies in the NBA, while they already have a playoff-team core in place, as well as more cap room.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 5, 2010 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Just as I wouldn't read too much into the Maverick Carter-visiting-NYC stuff.
It’s interesting, but while Carter is LBJ’s business manager, he’s not his agent.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 5, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
well.... duh!
bulls and nets have rosters with some hope. also, the author writes for new jersey.
knicks and heat rosters are too barren. clippers have a roster, but don’t even have a coach.
he could choose the nets, but surely sees the bulls as the safer bet?
it’s cavs or bulls people. stay or go.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Knicks with their second meeting...
If they have Amare locked up they can’t be ignored. Even if I can’t see both playing together he has a Gasol to his Kobe waiting there. Plus the whole marketing of him earning a Billion.
I know you don't like the Bleacher Report
but here’s my opinion on D-Wade and Bosh joining forces with the Bulls. Not a breaking news story with no substance, just facts and opinion.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
Man, that Woj column on LBJ's ties to Cleveland was pretty damned good.
I keep forgetting that I’m obsessing over the whims of a guy four years my junior, that he’s really “just a kid” in so many ways.
Now what’s that say about me?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 5, 2010 12:13 AM CDT reply actions
Of course, I still want LeBron on the Bulls.
But I think if the Bulls have a chance to put Bosh and Wade together over these next three or four days, and it looks like LeBron is dithering, they should take it.
I know a lot of folks on here are saying that it’s a good sign that he’s waiting until after the camp to make, or at least announce, his decision. I don’t know. Are those kids at the camp predominantly from the Cleveland area? He may see all these kids and decide he can’t disappoint them.
Then again, it’s not like he can’t hold the camp in Ohio every year anyway. And it’s not like a bunch of kids are going to pass up an opportunity to go to LeBron James’ basketball camp, whatever team he’s on.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 5, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions
i'm under the impression it's much more that a fun kids' camp
exclusive and for promising older akron area youths.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
You're right, I think it's like the top 80 high school players in the country that go
It’s not just some fun little summer camp where he picks up 5 year old kids so they can dunk a ball
At this moment my life is one continuous Twitter feed.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 5, 2010 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah, thanks for clearing that up.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 5, 2010 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions
he's 4 years older than me
and if I made a career altering decision based on a cartoon or an episode of the Sopranos, shoot me.
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
Someone asked KC on his Twitter if we should worry that we haven't heard much from the Bulls today.
He said it’s just a waiting game now.
Maybe, but I also have to believe that the org is still working hard on the situation, only they’re keeping a lid on things. I just can’t see them sitting back and relaxing while the Knicks try to jump back in this thing.
Or is it that the Knicks really have such a small chance, and everyone knows it, that it doesn’t even matter?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 5, 2010 12:23 AM CDT reply actions
You know what this process feels like
Two bull’s(no pun intended)are sitting on a hill one say’s to the other hey pop’s like run down to that field down there and fuck one of those cows?
The other bull say’s back no let’s walk down and fuck them all
Make up your minds already. This is way more stressful than I thought it would be.
"Cleveland suck's":Joakim Noah:2010
....the hell?
This is as random as the ‘TRIPLE RAINBOWS! OMGOMGGMO’ video.
by Stacey_Is_King on Jul 5, 2010 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah, i'm going insane as well
Malone...stripped by Michael, to the floor, stolen by M.J.! Michael the steal! 16 seconds left, Bulls down 1. Michael against Russell, 12 seconds...11...10. Jordan, Jordan a drive, hangs...fires...SCORE! He scores! The Bulls lead 87-86 with five and two tenths left, and now they're one stop away...
IT just feels like we all might get screwed on this one Lebron is going to feel guilty and stay
Im anti getting happy until the ink drys on the contracts and am setting up for disapointment rite now
But the whole dwayne wade family thing has gotten me thinkinghe might happen and bosh might follow
"Cleveland suck's":Joakim Noah:2010
by joaroselabrosh on Jul 5, 2010 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
well yeah, he might pick loyalty over winning
but if the whole wade/bosh thing happens, bulls will probably go on to 25-peat. i’m still optimistic. if he was staying, why wouldn’t he announce it now and be a hero at the akron camp?
Malone...stripped by Michael, to the floor, stolen by M.J.! Michael the steal! 16 seconds left, Bulls down 1. Michael against Russell, 12 seconds...11...10. Jordan, Jordan a drive, hangs...fires...SCORE! He scores! The Bulls lead 87-86 with five and two tenths left, and now they're one stop away...
I think someone mentioned above that it's not necessarily a camp for Akron kids.
It’s for top h.s. players around the country, Juiceboxjerry said. If he’s holding off on the announcement it’s because it would be a distraction for the kids.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 5, 2010 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions
but it is IN akron
whether or not it’s akron kids there, it is still in his hometown.
Malone...stripped by Michael, to the floor, stolen by M.J.! Michael the steal! 16 seconds left, Bulls down 1. Michael against Russell, 12 seconds...11...10. Jordan, Jordan a drive, hangs...fires...SCORE! He scores! The Bulls lead 87-86 with five and two tenths left, and now they're one stop away...
Well, I'm officially creeped out
At this moment my life is one continuous Twitter feed.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 5, 2010 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Look at it this way
Those boy-girl analogies suddenly seem much less annoying…
by wjb1492 on Jul 5, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting, I wondered if they would broach this subject:
During their meeting, the Bulls stressed there would be no special privileges for his friends and management team, like there have been in Cleveland.
At this moment my life is one continuous Twitter feed.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 5, 2010 12:32 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Interesting.
I hope they used the Yankees as an example. A team full of stars, but no one is bigger than the team.
And they are his favorite baseball team, no?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 5, 2010 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
hmmm
it make sense they would say that, but I’m guessing it didn’t play too well with Lebron. On the other hand, if the Cavs had taken a more business like approach, perhaps they would have been more successful.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 5, 2010 1:41 AM CDT up reply actions
You've gotta point if he was staying and really thinks cleveland after 7 season's will now get him some help he would have told everyone now
He’s weighing all his options, It does all have to be overwhelming billionare’s telling you how there going to help you become one, How he’ll be the king of there town’s,business opportunities beyond thought
Who would not be impressed and emotional about the whole process, James,with leaving wade and his kids and bosh wanting to feel important.
The dream of getting all three is still alive
"Cleveland suck's":Joakim Noah:2010
by joaroselabrosh on Jul 5, 2010 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions
How are any team from the east going to get past the lakers,(and soon to be OKC) Super teams have to be created in the league
The bulls,if the trinity happens are at the top obviously of the list and a couple others would be on there way (because of ownership and cap room EG: dallas new jersey and yes new york )
"Cleveland suck's":Joakim Noah:2010
by joaroselabrosh on Jul 5, 2010 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions
more about the meeting
The Bulls management team made its presentation along with a film that included testimony from many of Chicago’s top business and civic leaders about how James would profit immensely both on and off the court in Chicago, undeniably more than anywhere else. (…)
At the height of the Bulls’ championship run, the Bulls had the league’s highest payroll. Jordan in 1988 signed one of the first true groundbreaking contracts in pro sports that shocked the world, the eight-year $25 million blockbuster which was international news. It came when Jordan hadn’t even been past the second round of the playoffs. Ben Wallace, bad investment or not, was offered $12 million more than even his home team offered whom he helped win a championship. When Jay Williams was injured and violated his contract the Bulls paid him anyway, just as they did Jordan when he quit basketball to play minor league baseball.
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 5, 2010 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions
*slaps head*
couldn’t they have waited to tell him this until after he signed on the dotted line????
ugh!
"4 inches, baby!" --ripped off from Kush
As crazy as this all has made us,
we should take solace in knowing that in terms of winning, we’re the best option. Let’s not forget that. We can speculate about their emotions all we want, but it’s useless, as we don’t know them personally. But in terms of logic, we all know which team is most appealing basketball-wise: The Bulls. You don’t have to get into these guys collective heads to figure that out. Let’s not forget that.
I could see
Us getting Lebron and DWade. They could easily take their time separately to think about things and see Chicago as the best option for the professional and/or personal lives.
Lebron because it’s his best chance to win titles, DWade because he gets to be with his kids. So what happens when the 3 Amigos sit down to talk about things and they’ve both picked Chicago? Chris Bosh is basically ass out LOL
see tahts what i want to happen
but can you really see bosh/wade’s agent letting bosh get left out?
thats why i believe you either get wade/bosh or lebron in any scenario
by sin on Jul 5, 2010 3:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Details on the Cavs' pitch
the bulls pitch has got to be better than that! guilt trips and fart jokes. just, wow.
Malone...stripped by Michael, to the floor, stolen by M.J.! Michael the steal! 16 seconds left, Bulls down 1. Michael against Russell, 12 seconds...11...10. Jordan, Jordan a drive, hangs...fires...SCORE! He scores! The Bulls lead 87-86 with five and two tenths left, and now they're one stop away...
The Bulls pitch went like this:
“Look at our coach and roster. Wanna be the favorites to win every year for the life of your contract?”
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
by Prevenge on Jul 5, 2010 3:43 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope that's what it was
Look, if Lebron wants to win, CHI is a no brainer. If he goes anywhere besides CHI or CLE, all of that stuff about wanting to be a winner will be exposed as bs.
He’s going to see through it. While it’s fun to laugh at inside jokes and think of good times he has to think back to the advice he got from KG (who had the same experience) and follow it, he can’t let loyalty and guilt stop him from making the right decision. The Bulls pitch was about youth, talent, coaching, championships and dynasties. The Cavs pitch was about inside jokes because they don’t have all those things the Bulls talked about, and don’t look like having it anytime soon.
I completely believe some time late Wednesday or early Thursday he’ll announce to the world he’s signing with the Bulls, they will then take their pick of all star PF free agents. This super team will then have veteran role players begging to join them, filling out the roster will be easier than people think.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 5, 2010 5:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
G'Morning
"Nothing can happen till you swing the bat."
-Haruko Haruhara
by windycitywarrior on Jul 5, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions
No news yet?
Its Monday, come on Lebron
it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs
Wade talks trash about the Bulls
Wade’s kid are bullied in school
Wade pretends to show some love for the Bulls
Wade’s kids stop being bullied
Wade signs with the Heat
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 5, 2010 7:50 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Lol
I doubt thats true, but I got solid entertainment out of it.
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
Nets, Bulls, Cavs on James's narrowed list?
League sources said he’s deciding from among the Cavaliers, Bulls and Nets.
dunno if this was posted yet, here’s the article: http://www.northjersey.com/sports/sports_rotator/070510_LeBron_James_puts_off_making_decisions_sources_say_Nets_among_final_three.html?c=y&page=1
so i was looking at free agent mike miller's college and pro stats just now. miller is
a career 40% 3pt shooter in the nba. at florida he shot 36% from 3 his fr. year and 34% from 3 his soph. year. isnt that strange? where did that shooting stroke come from?
"If I was to answer that question honestly, I would have to lie to you."
- Isiah Thomas, when asked if any teams were interested in trading for Shandon Anderson
maybe he was the 1st option in college therefore the focus of the defense
and in the nba, he’s more of a very good role player
You know...
In all of this, assuming Lebron stays put, I still can’t see why—from a basketball perspective—Wade stays in Miami. Best case for the Heat: Bosh teams up with Wade and they have a junk-drawer roster. Worst case for the Heat: Bosh is headed West in a S&T; That is, then, I’m really not too worried about the King and It feels so good. It’s almost like a supernatural peace I have here on Monday morning. Surpasses all understanding, but I think Wade comes to Chicago.
DWADE:
Back in MIA excited about the D. Wade All-Star Camp starting tmr – Thurs. Only open to boys and girls b/w 7-18….
So, he too has a basketball camp. this only means that he’ll announce his decision on or after the camp. If he annpunces it during the camp, for sure he is staying in MIAMI. On the event that he announces it after the camp, there might be a chance that he is leaving MIAMI. Hmmmmm
Wade
I get the feeling that Wade is stringing the Bulls along to keep his name in the headlines and to provide some material for his reality show. These guys are all drama queens.
i just noticed in JAMES website it now says...GETTING CLOSER
last time round it said “SOMETHING’S COMING”. I’m not totally sure that that’s what it said the last time but I’m very sure that it wasn’t what it says now. He is just bringing drama to this free agency! What a douche!
Tomorrow it'll say "Almost there"
The next day it’ll say “So close you can almost touch it!”
Then the next day it’ll say “lol jk it’s far away again.”
"Nothing can happen till you swing the bat."
-Haruko Haruhara
by windycitywarrior on Jul 5, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
this makes me think he's staying in Cleveland
if he’s had his decision since today/whenever and is just hinting at it.
I suppose it could also mean Chi, or NJ, but I think he’s just upping suspense aimlessly for free self promotion.
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
I emailed Sam Smith about a couple ideas and he keeps saying
“bulls tried to trade deng and failed”
I’m starting to think Bulls should not wait on this non-sense and just sign Boozer and then wait on Wade/Lebron. cuz if boozer is signed to a contract with 13 mil first year bulls could still get a max contract player.
if they're trying so hard to trade Deng
wouldn’t that suggest they’re confident in landing LeBron?
by NerdVernacular on Jul 5, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Stringing us along
is fine and everything. I mean, sure it might make for good television or whatever, but it really doesn’t answer the question of who is going to be filling out Miami’s roster at the end of the day.
You see....
If it was known when Bosh was going to decide, maybe we could all get back to our regularly schedueled lives. But, as of now, I’ve spent so much time purusing around the internet, chasing an invisible unicorn, trying to get a read on these guys—a handle on anything—that my wife has (in the last three days) questioned me about fighting depression (I told her this is like fighting the air), questioned my marital faithfulness (as in, “you seem so absent when you’re at home”), and questioned the line between sports as an affinity or an obsession. My point to her being, that line is blurry to begin with and times like these are like emergency hostage situations. This is a two-handed affair here. This is my fault. This is their fault. And my point to you, is Lebron James, Chris Bosh, and Dwayne Wade have me at gunpoint. I wish they’d pull the fucking trigger already.
by Dogfishhead on Jul 5, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
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