Eddie House chooses Heat
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gotta be kidding me.
As if they couldn’t be hated anymore this happens!
by SoulEater7 on Jul 29, 2010 11:28 AM CDT reply actions 6 recs
hating grows by the hour
and I didn’t even want House so much. But, like LBJ, just go anywhere but the heat… shyt. They beat us at getting FA now they are doing a great job at getting 3pointers.
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 29, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
HA! I knew it
Now is celebrating will be worse
"Boozer's dumbass dunked, so i dunked on his dumbass"- Joakim Noah
I didn't even want House that bad
but how do we lose another layer to the Heat? Couldn’t Woj have spared us and left that part out of the story?
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 29, 2010 11:34 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Now if they can figure out how to bring in Rondo, they will truly be my most hated team of all time.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 29, 2010 11:37 AM CDT reply actions
I didn't want House anyways
I don’t want Mason Jr either.
Maybe this will force them to realistically go after Rudy.
And yeah, that team over there . . . . .
by Option27 on Jul 29, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
i thought JJ+1st for Rudy didnt work
what trade do you propose?
Practice beats talent when talent doesn't practice.
by iamsasquatch on Jul 29, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't think the first was offered.
Bobcats first for Rudy would work.
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
no i mean it doesnt work salary cap wise
since the blazers are over the salary cap and their incoming salary is greater than 125% of their outgoing. or something of that nature……
Practice beats talent when talent doesn't practice.
by iamsasquatch on Jul 29, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
The working trade would be
a pick for Rudy.
The question would be: Ours or the Bobcats?
But as has been stated numerous times. It doesn’t even seem to have been offered…
Or Portland could pair him up with a crappy d-leager that we could waive later on
by GriggsBriggs on Jul 29, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Although that works in the Trade Machine
Porltland would not go for that.
They DON’T want JJ, they want a pick.
Give 'em both
I would prefer we kept Charlotte’s and gave Portland our original one. I hate how you can’t include picks in the trade machine =/.
Bulls get- Rudy Fernandez + D leager
Portland gets- James Johnson + Bulls 1st Round pick
Idk I guess it’s somewhat reasonable.
by GriggsBriggs on Jul 30, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
If it's just a pick the Blazers get it works. We have the cap to make it work.
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
oh
yeah, i didnt think of that. we should definitely offer it if it hasnt been done already!
Practice beats talent when talent doesn't practice.
by iamsasquatch on Jul 29, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't want anyone the Bulls didn't get
SERENITY NOW!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 29, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
The quickest way to get everything you want:
Never want anything you didn’t get.
by jpx7 on Jul 29, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lets get Rafer Alston, so that he would slap the headband off his dumbass.
"Boozer's dumbass dunked, so i dunked on his dumbass"- Joakim Noah
by T.Moore on Jul 29, 2010 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I think if the Bulls really wanted a House or Mason
they would have already gone out and got one of them. They have the cap and Chicago would be a good destination for either of them. So I just get the feeling that the org is looking into something we don’t know about or waiting something out that might not materialize. I figure that is why they are leaving TMac hanging and delaying the ‘thanks, but no thanks’ that should come.
That or they are trying to track down Bill Lumberg to let McGrady down easy…
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jul 29, 2010 12:22 PM CDT reply actions
House is a perfect fit in Miami. Fuck.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 12:30 PM CDT reply actions
Anyone who knows how to play basketball is a perfect fit for Miami right about now
by Option27 on Jul 29, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Danny Ainge?
You're my assistant! You're supposed to back me up and go get me juiceboxes whenever I want. Now go get me a juicebox!
by chibullsfan03 on Jul 29, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
He is the
official DJ for the Heat(just kidding on official Heat DJ, but he is DJing in Miami, nice career move), he is about to release a house music album.
by QUINTEN DALEY on Aug 2, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Not like the Bulls were going to beat them anywho.
They are better, though. What’s their lineup these days? This makes getting Fernandez an imperative, imo.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Jul 29, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
It goes
Chalmers/Arroyo/House
Wade/House/Miller
Bron/ Miller
Bosh/Haslem
Anthony/Haslem/Big Z/Pittman
With Miller and House on the roster it’s going to very tough to zone them up, which would seem to be the only real way to slow them down at all. They are going to win 68-70 games.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
They should add Derrick Byars.
A good wing defender who can hit 3’s sounds swell.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I think they might be out of roster spots at this point.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus, the Bulls should really add Byars. He's a nice player and could help down the line, if injuries strike.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I completely concur.
But you know, my confidence in them is waning.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
If they get Rudy, all will be forgiven.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...not all. They still tanked for two years of Derrick Rose's career, which is inexcusable.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
meh, he's taking it well
he’ll never leave
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 29, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's taking it well, but I'm not. Not trying to compete is inexcusable.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Meh.
It was just his first two years anyway.
We let him grow and develop as a player and person for two years while we maneuvered for free agency. Now, he’s entering the big 3rd year as an All-Star, and we have the perfect complimentary pieces around him. Can’t complain with that at all.
Miami wasted a few years of Wade’s PRIME. That’s way worse imo.
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by Sir Buckets on Jul 29, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know, I hate him, too...
But Peyton played on some terrible Colts teams in his first few years. Just sayin’
They did make the playoffs
Plus, they traded for Salmons and Brad that first year. If anything, they only tanked one year
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 29, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
They hired VDN. They tanked two years.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
That's basically how I feel, too.
I would be at peace for at least a year. It’s funny how, if they had gotten Redick, Brewer may not have signed, and the Bulls might not feel the need for an offensive-minded SG either. And they’d already have signed Mason Jr or something.
It is kind of weird that I’d be satisfied by using the pick they got for trading my man-crush of a player.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I was going to question whether Byars has proven anything outside of a good summer league 2 years ago
his college 3pt%s are decent though too. Dunno though, not that this is an absolute standard, but it’s not like other teams are competing for this guy either.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 29, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He'd be a pretty good 13th or 14th man is all.
Better than Pargo. Still can’t believe he was actually in the rotation last year. At the very least everyone on this year’s team is still a legitimate NBA player, unlike last year when they had roster spots taken up by the likes of Jerome James, Aaron Gray/Devin Brown, Pargo, and Lindsey Hunter. Gross.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Why is a 13th or 14th man necessary?
The minimum is 12, and every person over 12 cuts into our cap space. And the only reason a 13th or 14th man would ever play was in the event of a sequence of catastrophic injuries, in which case a) we’re already screwed b) we could find someone like that in the D-league or on the waiver wire for a 10-day contract.
Minimum is 13
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
Having a 14th or 15th man can be useful
for practicing purposes, and, if someone does get injured, they can bring in someone who has a sense for what the Bulls are trying to accomplish on the court. In a season where the goal is to get every win possible, having a 14th and a 15th on board is a must.
In the event of a 1 for 2 trade or a different need, the 14th and 15th should be on non-guaranteed contracts so that the can easily be cut or sent to the D-league or whateva.
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 30, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus Magloire and Juwan Howard, forgot about them.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I did.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
They have a lot of big bodies, now. Probably going to see a lot of gooning it up on Dwight Howard, I'd bet.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Nothing like
good goonsmanship, take me back to the glory days of the 80’s and 90’s
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 29, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
The 90's is when gooning reigned supreme with the Knicks and Heat. Not much glory there.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, when the Heat, Knicks, and Cavs almost ruined basketball. How about teams play smart defense instead of taking cheap shots.
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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 29, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Michael Jordan ascending to a level so transcendent
that gooning did nothing probably saved basketball
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
by blackoutsox on Jul 29, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Cleveland wasn't gooning,
they just slowed the game down to a horrible pace, can’t win a lot games
depending on Tyrone Hill, Bobby Phills, Chris Mills, and Terell Brandon to score on a consistent basis.
by QUINTEN DALEY on Aug 2, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
The kept saying LeBron was going to play PG
I think the starting line up is going to be
James
Wade
Miller
Bosh
Haslem
Haslem’s obviously undersized, but so is Anthony and Haslem’s better.
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
I agree...
I think is probably the best lineup they can trot out there night after night…Haslem plays D on the opposing teams best offensive big and Miller on the weakest wing.
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
as pointed out elsewhere in the comments
James Jones re-signed with them too
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 29, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
at least tmac chose us
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
by sin on Jul 29, 2010 12:32 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
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by jpx7 on Aug 2, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not quite as good as Pargo and Myers being gone, but close
BullsTwo > Back up and running!
by Sports2 on Jul 29, 2010 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
So the Miami depth chart goes something like this?:
Chalmers/Arroyo/House
Wade/House/Miller
Lebron/Miller
Bosh/Haslem
Ilgauskas/Anthony/Magloire
Yea, we’re fucked. Am I missing anyone?
Superteams suck.
various second rounders and undrafted FA types
I think their roster is actually full at the moment.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 29, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow. This post is for all those guys saying the Heat wouldn't be able to fill out their roster with quality players.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 29, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sure how quality those players are!
Miller is so so to me!
Big Z, One foot into retirement.
House is ok but one dimensional.
Haslem is quality but is so so.
Magloire, SMH
Jawan, played good for the blazers for his age. quality?
Joel Anthony is so so to me but probably starting.
Has Arroyo inked with them yet? I think Dwade is the back up point guard.
Chalmers is quality.
Yet in still I expect the heat to have been in the chip game even if they had lesser quality players than they did get.
by Ibleedbullsred on Jul 29, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
They're role players, it's ok if they're crappy overall b/c they'll be playing with the 2 best players in the NBA
and Chris Bosh. As long as they have one dimension they can offer when they play, they’ll be effective enough. Should say, it’s ok for the Heat, it’s not going to be ok for the other teams.
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
by snley on Jul 29, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think there's a chance they start Miller over Chalmers.
That’d be creepy good.
James – Chalmers – Arroyo
Wade – House – Miller
Miller – James – Derrick Byars
Bosh – Haslem
Anthony – Ilgauskas – Haslem
Is something along the lines I’d do. They probably need an athletic wing. Who guesses they go after Derrick Byars next? I’ll add him in.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
They're going to crush us, let's not kid ourselves
The only question is whether they beat us in the second round (meaning we’d be a 4-5 seed) or the conference finals (meaning we’d be a 2-3 seed). Maybe in a few years they get bored with their dominance, but until then they’re going to run roughshod over the rest of the league.
by Big D on Jul 29, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We can only hope LeBron and Wade collide with one another going for a loose ball and both tear their ACLs.
That’s about the only way I see the Bulls beating them in the near future.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe they'll all catch VD from a hoodrat at one of D-Wade's sex orgies
Somehow I’m guessing ESPN wouldn’t report that even if it did happen, though.
by Big D on Jul 29, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I think you can probably still play with VD. Unless they get syphillis and go crazy, which would be awesome.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
LeBron already has syphilis
Did you see The Decision?
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
by Prevenge on Aug 1, 2010 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
they'd report it
but then they’d take it down and claim it was “just a draft”
Finally the NBA has a villain
As much as I hate the Heat.
theres no reason this should be green. As someone who sees these conditions, you would not want it upon anyone else.
This blog is fairly intelligent, a person’s ignorance of VD/STD shouldn’t have them wishing that upon someone else.
I'm just going by what D-Wade's ex-wife says
Alternatively, I hope they blow all their money on gambling and strippers, and end up broke after they retire.
Or even current players, in Eddy Curry's case
You know you’ve got problems when you’re broke despite still making $10 million a year. How will he handle a lockout?
Wishing it doesn't make it any more likely to happen
So a person who who was informed about VD/STD and how they’re transmitted, can rest assured that they’re not harming any one by their wishes.
Yes, they have the star power. Yes, some of their fastbreaks will resemble the Harlem Globetrotters. But no, they will not crush us.
We are the more well-balanced and deep team. Our pieces fit well together and I see us having great chemistry. We have a defensive genius in Thibodeau, and the players to accomplish that great team D. We’re almost a lock to repeat as the #1 rebounding team in the league, and if not, at least we’re in the top 3.
We have the offensive firepower. We have the low-post scoring. We have the defense. We have the rebounding. We have the young, budding superstar floor general that has the whole city of Chicago — and almost the entire nation, if we meet up with Miami — behind him.
While Miami will most likely have the better regular season record (assuming complete health), we are built to win in the playoffs.
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
by Sir Buckets on Jul 29, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
Their pieces fit together better. We still have exactly one real three point threat to go with one of the best penetrating point men in the league.
They have two elite shooters in House and Miller and the two best players in the world. Plus one of the better bigs in the game. They fit together better. We might be deeper, but depth doesn’t matter that much, especially when the talent gap is so great at the top.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
The last team to have the two best players in the league was the 2000-2004 Lakers
They won 3 straight titles. And they never had a third player anywhere near as good as Chris Bosh. They didn’t have much depth either, but it doesn’t make much difference in the playoffs when everybody’s stars are playing 40+ minutes a night. Really, the Heat are going to be awesome barring injury. The Bulls will be better, but I’m afraid a lot of people are setting themselves up for disappointment.
Wade and Bosh aren't exactly posterchilds for health.
And, to top it off, Wade is 28 years old (29 in Jan.)
I hate to sound like a broken record, but with his reckless style of play and injury history, he is not too far off from starting to decline. Athleticism and speed are big parts of his game, too.
And, if you wanted to, you could factor in karma. I would never wish for an injury to a player, but that doesn’t mean other people wouldn’t. LeBron, at this very moment, is hated by millions of people. The Heat are the villain of the NBA. Virtually everyone except Miami fans dislikes them. The basketball greats are disappointed in what they did. So many people have a burning desire to see them fail. Is it sane to expect a totally healthy and prosperous multi-year title run from them? Idk.
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
lol maybe
But when I said “basketball greats” I meant MJ, Bird, Magic, etc. Not the figurative basketball gods :P
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
BS. If there were any such thing as "karma" or "basketball gods"
PJax would get his fourth three-peat and retire by beating Miami, either that or his old team would deny him his last title by beating him in the finals. Kobe’s never been a villain, people just don’t like him cause he’s Mike-lite without the media savvy. Don’t distract yourself with him, it takes time away from hating the Heat.
Finally the NBA has a villain
by cp881289 on Jul 29, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kobe's not a villain? Has everyone forgot the fall out from his indiscretions in Denver only 7 years ago?
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
i recall him making some sneaky dirty shots at people as well
I swear I’ve seen him follow through with the elbow on jumpers to try to clock his defender
You mean being vindicated in a court-of-law?
Or just that fat rock he bought to affix to his angry wife’s hand?
A court of law says some one is not guilty, it doesn't say they're innocent
And in another court of law he settled and paid the woman a lot of money
Well:
There is this other bit of language, anterior to the court-system, that mandates the presumption of innocence until adjudication.
Moreover, I was invoking the following connotative senses of vindicate: “2. To make or set free” and “3. To clear from censure, criticism, suspicion, or doubt, by means of demonstration; to justify or uphold by evidence or argument.” [OED]. Hence: in a court-of-law, Bryant was freed from potential punishment and cleared – at least from a legal perspective – “from censure, criticism, suspicion, or doubt, by means of […] evidence or argument.” This is pretty irrefutable.
But I did enjoy your cute little attempt to make monetary settlement in a civil court commensurate with legal guilt (though it simply and certainly isn’t).
if we're talking about him being a villain, then we're talking about the court of public opinion
like you alluded to below this, OJ’s a villain, despite being innocent according to the courts. I think most people think he fucked around, the Denver chick tried to extort money from him, and he gave his wife a giant ring to appease her for cheating. Even if he didn’t rape anyone, not the rosiest picture possible.
Also: Bryant is by no means a favored player of mine
But I really abhor discussion of this case as if there was or is certainty of his guilt.
( a ) The jury of peers denied his guilt;
( b ) from anecdotal reports, it sounded much more likely that the girl was just pimping him for money, using their intercourse as leverage;
( c ) it’s not as if he tried to publish a quasi-autobiography entitled “If I Raped Her.”
I regret bringing it up because I likewise don't assume his guilt
My point was more that Kobe has been seen as a villain in the past but, given the vitriol at the time, has been quickly forgotten.
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
Neither is Carlos Boozer who misses like 40 games every season
And Wade changed his style of play you obviously haven’t seen him play the last 2 years, he no longer is the same Wade from 2006 or earlier. He shoots a lot more jump shots, and 3 balls. doesn’t collide with other players that much. In the past 2 years he has only missed a total of 3 games because of an injury, the games he did not play in were because of rest, the heat did not want to over work him because he basically had to do everything every night.
by Dolphins21MZ on Jul 29, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
2002-2004 shaq was more dominant
than those scrubs on the heat.
yeah but the Lakers didn't have a 3rd player equivalent to Bosh
I think the Lakers – Heat comparison works. Even though the Lakers won 3 straight championships, the comparison gives me hope. That Lakers team almost lost to Portland and should have lost to the Kings.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 29, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
based on bosh's twitter feed
he has major psychological issues and will develop a nasty coke habit while filming t mobile commercials with wade, lebron, and sir charles
I dunno if it's correct, but you could make the argument that
Wade/James aren’t the best fit. Both are pretty ball dominant. Now, on the other hand, great players find ways to play together. I expect the Heat to have fantastic ball movement, but a slight decrease in individual stat lines.
Also, the offseason isn’t over. We could (and most likely will) still pickup another 3pt threat. That would bring the list of people on our team who could hit threes to:
(in no order)
- Rose (I believe him)
- Deng (has a full, healthy summer to practice taking a step back)
- Korver (lol)
- CJ Watson
- Omer Asik (psych)
- JJ (but this kinda doesn’t count)
- possibly whoever else we sign (Fernandez/Mason?)
Granted, the only 3 pt sniper on that list is Korver (and Rudy/Mason(?) if we sign one of them), but we aren’t a bad 3 point shooting team by any stretch of the imagination.
Alsooo, we’ll have Brewer on Wade, Deng on LeBron, and Noah to stifle Bosh. It kinda helps that our two best perimeter defenders play the same positions as Wade & James, and that our defensive anchor is what stands in Bosh’s way on his fairy gallop to the basket.
We’ll out-rebound them, we’ll have better defense than them, and we’ll have a more balanced attack than them. The focal point of our team (Rose) has the shooters, slashers, and low-post threat that he needs to thrive.
But two ball dominant scorers with okay 3pt shooting and a jumpshot-happy big man are a better fit? Maybe if you live in some fantasy NBA Jam world…
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
Bosh is a better low post scorer than Boozer.
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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 29, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
YaoPau's post discussed this at length.
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 29, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
False
He is a better post scorer than boozer, bu he operates mostly out of the high post because he’s not strong enough to consistently get low post position. That distinction matters, for better or worse.
Pat Riley is the devil.
Not like that's a major difference between them
Boozer spends nearly as much time up high on offense.
Finally the NBA has a villain
Boozer spends a lot of time in the high post because the Jazz's system required him to move around a lot and play multiple spots
Bosh absolutely cannot consistently get low-post position. He obviously makes up for it by being really effective from the high post, but it’s still a tangible difference between the two players.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jul 29, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I think Boozer is better low post than Bosh
"Boozer's dumbass dunked, so i dunked on his dumbass"- Joakim Noah
The Heat have better than okay 3 point shooting. Plus top talent always wins. They've got the most and its not close.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I meant Wade/James have okay 3pt shooting. Miller and House are dead-eyes.
And no doubt they have the most talent. And in this case, maybe sheer talent alone will be enough to transcend fit. But who knows. Everyone’s opinions are just that — opinions. We’ll have to see how it all plays out.
Barring injury, I’d say the top 4 teams, record-wise, in the East are:
1. Miami
2. Chicago/Orlando
3. Chicago/Orlando
4. Boston
It’ll be interesting to see how the Heat deal with our defense, length, and rebounding. Offense isn’t all that wins championships. While the Heat obviously have more offensive talent, we’re the more balanced team.
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
Balance won't mean much...
If the 2nd/3rd units play with 20 point leads.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jul 29, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Orlando is significantly better than the Bulls, still. Bulls are right there with Boston, hopefully slightly
better. I think it’s Chicago-Boston-Milwaukee in some order in the second tier of East teams just below Orlando and Miami.
I think Atlanta is going to fall off as Bibby and Johnson age, plus they are stuck playing in the same division as ORL and MIA.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
no non-Woodson bump for Atlanta?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 30, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
We beat Orlando at every position but center
How are they significantly better?
"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub
Because Dwight Howard is significantly better than anyone on the Bulls?
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by Ozzie Montana on Aug 1, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
shooting guard is a position
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Aug 1, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Until proven otherwise, we should also assume that SVG is a better coach than Thibs
Not that Thibs couldn’t be good, but SVG is so good, it’s more likely than not that Thibs is not his equal.
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
by snley on Aug 1, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We have 3-4 3 point threats.
Deng, Korver, and Watson all shoot a good percentage from 3 point range, and Rose tells us that he has the 3-point shot down.
Until we face the Bucks in the playoffs
I’m assured they will beat us 4-0… ;)
I think that's the 2-year min.
also, why I was unfairly ragging on the Pargo contract for GSW
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 29, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
you were not
Pargo getting a contract is wrong. Now matter how much
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 29, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
heh, that much is true
but I was blasting them for more than the min. which it wasn’t
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 29, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
his contract should be the russian minimum
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 29, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Isn't the Russian minimum when they just don't pay you at all?
And if you have a problem with it, good luck in a Russian courtroom.
after signing miller resigning haslem/anthony all the rest of the heat signings have been for the min.
Howard, Arroyo, Magloire, House all ring chasers.
by Ibleedbullsred on Jul 29, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
James Jones as well, he
is a true scrub
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 29, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
F him
That guy only pops threes when his team is up by 20. You saw the kind of cunt he was against us with Boston when they were down by 8 points and needed a bucket. I’m glad; didn’t like his personality anyways. He’s like the little midget that goes into a fight after it’s done just to lay out a couple small kicks. McGrady isn;t coming here, so now the Bulls can focus on Mason on Fernandez. (I’m hoping Fernandez, as long as it’s not Taj that needs to go)
by GriggsBriggs on Jul 29, 2010 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Also from Woj's story:
The Heat are still weighing the possibility of signing free agent Tracy McGrady, league sources said.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 29, 2010 12:47 PM CDT reply actions
Good...
That would assure playoff failure.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jul 29, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
He better say he thinks he should start, because that's just as outrageous as saying it during the Bulls tryout.
All the McGrady talk recently has just pissed me off because everyone defending him over the last two weeks did so blindly. They were remembering the early Rockets years…. and completely ignoring this past Knicks season.
He can’t run. He can’t jump. KC and Sam tried to be nice writing what they heard from that tryout not wanting to bury a player…. yet they made it sound like hes 31 going on 50.
I’d love Miami to sign him. This team is looking more and more like the Diantoni Suns… gonna be a hellacious run and gun team with very decent spot up shooters on the break…. and tissue paper thin D.
If he thinks he can start over Brewer
Then he should be able to start over Chalmers or Miller
House is the type of guy
that people are giving lebron shit for looking like. a guy who can’t add enough talent to a team to get a ring, so he jumps on the team most likely to snag one for him. i hate that guy, i hated him in the 09 celtics series and i don’t want him.
Finally the NBA has a villain
It's annoying
Who are we saving this cap space for? Would House have turned down 1 year at 3 million? We have 1 fricken guy on the team who can make a 3 pointer.
by The90sBullsRevival on Jul 29, 2010 1:00 PM CDT reply actions
Gar has to do something, just to respond to this
I say we sign Rafer Alston, just to slap House when he gets out of line
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 29, 2010 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'd rather they just go trade for Rudy and get it over with already. Give up the Bobcats pick. Rudy is worth it.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was just joking around
I’d still love to get Rudy
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 29, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I got the joke, but I was just pointing out my preferred response to this news.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
we could hire 'Sheed Wallace
to be James Kickboxing Johnson personal coach
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 29, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Hate and Heat are anagrams.
Whoa, like, trippy.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 29, 2010 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
FUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man, this just plain sucks. Made my whole day shyty
All I want in life is for UC fans to chant: Deeeeeloooonte during Heat games
I hate when stuff-that-makes-me-miss-BG happens
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 29, 2010 1:14 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Maybe this lights a fire under the Bulls
to go harder for Rudy.
And as far as the back up plan…
While I like that Mason can play some D’, it would have been nice to have a backup SG that would serve the role as 3 point specialist. Something the Bulls haven’t had since you-know-who.
"Deng is fired" - Neil Funk
by RogersPark Kris on Jul 29, 2010 1:58 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
But now have in Kelso?
Also, Mason is a 38% career 3pt shooter. I’d live with that, lol.
1. Fernandez
2. Mason
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. McGrady
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
the signing of James and Wade didn't 'fire up the Bulls' (rightly or wrongly)
so I don’t see Eddie House signing doing so.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 29, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
What in the world are you talking about?
They added Boozer after Wade declared for Miami. Then they added three more guys after “The Decision”
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Jul 29, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
well, there is a minimum payroll too
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 30, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
How can they actually "Go Harder"?
They only have about three assets that could realistically offer…Taj, JJ and draft picks…
Unless…
We throw in Noah and they throw in Oden?
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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flagged
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
No, just Rudy.
Was there another team that was considering signing Tmac, besides Chicago and Miami?
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
Clips
but they signed Rasual Butler
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 29, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
the bulls' going for house
tells me they care more about 3pt productivity than individual defense. so, can we get somebody to rank the remaining free agents w/rt/t 3pt accuracy
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Semi related news:
Meanwhile, the Knicks continue to explore trade possibilities and remain interested in Blazers swingman Rudy Fernandez, who is actively being shopped. In their pursuit of a deal for Fernandez, or perhaps Chris Paul if and when the Hornets begin fielding serious trade inquiries, the Knicks have a few more assets to offer than commonly realized. According to two people familiar with how the David Lee sign-and-trade arrangement was structured, the Knicks do not have to wait the standard 60 days before combining Ronny Turiaf, Anthony Randolph or Kelenna Azubuike with other players in a trade. The Knicks were still under the salary cap when Lee was signed and traded, exempting them from the 60-day waiting period, which applies only to players acquired with a trade exception by teams that are over the cap.
For all the people like me who though the Knicks couldn’t trade those Golden State guys. It looks like they can. Also, according to that story, the Knicks have an offer out to Shannon Brown.
Superteams suck.
the ones we got by trade but I can't remember which ones were
just Boozer and Watson?
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 29, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, do you want to trade Boozer and Watson?
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 29, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
No... not now
Just keeping an open mind
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 29, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
No because Boozer and Watson were still signed as free agents, even if they technically came over via trade
The Knicks players mentioned were simply traded.
Pat Riley is the devil.
ah, thx
those guys really now how to complicate things
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 29, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
When you sign a free agent, you can't trade him for a while.
That’s all you need to know.
Pat Riley is the devil.
Not an issue
Portland is stacked at SG and PF. Seriously, they have two big names at SG and 4 PFs on their roster, including two legitimate starters. They want a pick.
Finally the NBA has a villain
I think they've shown they're not averse to adding talent
even if they’re stacked at the position. If they like one of those guys, I don’t think they’ll hesitate to bring him in. (although since Pritchard left, who knows if that will continue)
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 29, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
What you described is Paul Allen, not Pritchard.
So it will probably continue.
In Bayless I trust.
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I think it's funny that this forum's "F the Heat, we're not surrendering" attitude
has changed to “we’re so screwed” because they signed Eddie freaking House.
by dbrown25 on Jul 29, 2010 3:31 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
Because the fate of the NBA rests
on Eddie House and Rudy Fernandez.
Ball 4!
by californiachicagoan on Jul 29, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
We've always been screwed, but it's worse when you add floor spacers so it makes it hard to impossible to double the big 3.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought the Bulls were screwed either way.
Chicago getting House obviously doesn’t make the talent gulf between the two teams. Miami getting House increases that gulf.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Whatever...I know Miami is the better team
But I still think they’re soft on the interior. Like a Rolo.
I think teams with strong frontcourts could abuse them inside.
by dbrown25 on Jul 29, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
sucks
…I didn’t want House, but just another guy gone…and gone to friggin Miami.
If they can’t swing anything for Rudy in the next few days, fuck it, just sign T-Mac dammit.
Eddie House is absolute garbage. I can't believe this made the front page
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 29, 2010 4:32 PM CDT reply actions
Wait till they sign Roger Mason!
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 29, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
He's an added shooter to a team that becomes exponentially more dangerous with shooters. It's not so much that the Bulls needed House
but that it’s damaging that he went to friggin’ Miami.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 29, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
This is...
some bullshit though! We aren’t the only team trying to get better. They don’t have the excuse of waiting on Orlando to match JJ Reddick. We need to stop resting on our laurels and get a legit back up SG.
could mean boston is now willing to trade avery bradley.
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
This team is good now...
we will only get better, the kind of contracts and the peeps we signed, all good, shannon brown? D Rose is king, is already a good person and truw winner, making him 2 up on lbj
Wow
Congrats to Eddie House. Welcome to Team “John Dillinger”. Happy to have u
Comparing the Heat to a famous robber who was involved in killing numerous officers.
by Option27 on Jul 29, 2010 6:54 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Congrats to Lebron James.
For finding new and exciting ways to make himself look like a bigger douche every day.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 29, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 10 recs
Nah I don't like that comparison
Did you see Public Enemies? Dillinger was kind of sympathetic
Finally the NBA has a villain
by cp881289 on Jul 29, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hollywood making a gangster a sympathetic figure? No way!
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 29, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Well, in "their" defense
It is pretty boring to watch an already-sympathetic figure made to look even more sympathetic for 1.5-2.5 hours. You need pathos, yo: simple narratology.
Some interesting stuff from a McGraw blog post:
The Bulls are still looking at Keith Bogans and Roger Mason, while keeping Tracy McGrady in mind. There could also be surprise candidates this late in the summer when the options are few.
The Oregonian mentioned the Bulls as a potential destination for Portland shooting guard Rudy Fernandez. League insiders wonder if the Blazers are really serious about moving Fernandez. The Bulls’ inquiries earlier this summer were rebuffed.
At this point, if Fernandez is unhappy with his limited role in Portland, the Bulls may not be his best option, considering they’ve already added Kyle Korver and Ronnie Brewer at two guard.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 29, 2010 7:49 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Im on the fernandez band wagon
just like most everyone else is. My only fear would be issues with playing time. Also, the heat just continue to make it easier and easier for me to absolutely despise them. I never liked Eddie House throughout his career and his performance in game 7 against us solidified my hate for him. Really hope Miami fails somehow.
by Bulls Fan 4 Life on Jul 29, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Another thing I found interesting was
when he said:
There could also be surprise candidates this late in the summer when the options are few.
I was actually just thinking about this. They’re obviously not in love with Mason Jr., or Bogans, or else they would have signed one of them already. I wouldn’t be surprised if they make some kind of a trade for a guy no one was expecting.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 29, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, if I knew that then it wouldn't be someone no one was expecting, would it? ;)
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 29, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
right
but this sounds somewhat like the myth of the random d-leaguer. there’s not that many pro ball players around, we want names!
by grillo on Jul 30, 2010 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damien Wilkins
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
Zoran Dragic
Goran Dragic’s evil [and totally existing] brother!
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
by Prevenge on Aug 1, 2010 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pargo's younger brother, Jeremy Pargo
yep, he exists
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 29, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
he making sc top 10 one night for hitting a game winner in summer league
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
KORVER IS NOT A TWO GUARD
man i’m sick of hearing that.
Finally the NBA has a villain
by cp881289 on Jul 29, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm sick of hearing that he isn't
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jul 29, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
That's not true
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jul 29, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
so?
house is too short to guard 2’s he plays it anyways
korver played the 2 plenty in utah.
just because he sucks at it doesnt mean he isnt one because if hes used as one i think that makes him one. just a crappy one possibly
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
I wouldn't even go that far
There are only a handful of SGs that are quick enough where Korver would get routinely burned, and besides, that’s what help D is for.
Pat Riley is the devil.
Going further
If you look at the differences between the elite penetrators in the league and everyone else, it’s not just about being quick enough to beat your man, it’s also about being quick enough to get to the rim before the help defenders can rotate over and strong enough to finish at the rim. For example, Kirk Hinrich is certainly quick enough to routinely beat guys like Kyle Korver off the dribble, but it doesn’t matter because he’s still not gonna get to the rim in a position to finish.
Pat Riley is the devil.
look, you can make excuses for the guy all you want
i like him as a player too. but he’s there to hit clutch jumpers at backup SF. like i said below, using him at 2 is an exception. if you have to rely strictly on help defense, obviously you’re not playing the guy at his natural position. as far as House goes, he’s like Watson – you use him only occasionally at the 2. the way it stacks up now, we have only one natural two guard. we need another.
Finally the NBA has a villain
I'm not making excuses for him
I’m explaining why Korver is capable of playing the 2. The only supporting statement you’ve made to your argument that he can’t play the 2 is “he’s not fast enough to guard any other twos,” which is something that’s just not true.
Pat Riley is the devil.
ok...
tell me why it isn’t true. are you making a case that this guy is an athletic wing?
Finally the NBA has a villain
Of course not
Korver is not a shutdown defender by any means… but neither are guys like Anthony Parker, Anthony Morrow, and Wes Matthews, none of whom are demonstrably quicker than Korver. Yet all those guys are by all standards considered SGs.
Pat Riley is the devil.
Picture proof
In both Korver who wants a pony picture, Korver is with the opposing teams 2 guard.
Sprinkle a little magical Thibby pixie dust on Korver
and he’ll shut down Wade. I have faith.
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 30, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
He's not even fast enough to guard any SF's.
He isn’t there to play defense. He’s there to shoot the three.
Korver will play a lot of 2 at the end of games when we are down and need shooting.
then brewer oges out and luol stays in.
by Uncle Stanley McGoober on Jul 30, 2010 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions
They have to guard him though
And as long as he’s making 3 pointers at a higher rate than anyone else in history, and we have a defensive minded center to help, it’s alright if he gets beat sometimes. Of course there are some two’s that he has no chance on, but there are plenty of 3’s he can’t guard either. Plenty of guys in this league aren’t good at defense, doesn’t mean they can’t play.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 2, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I think we should stop regarding these positions as something set in stone
For all intents and purposes Korver could play the 2 on the offensive end and guard the other team`s opposing 3. Or maybe the other team is going big and Korver runs the two on both ends. Positions, once on the court, are not as plain to see as matching up 2s vs 2s and so on. That’s why we talk about Noah guarding Bosh when they play the heat and why Hinrich, at either the 1 or 2, was the one to guard the opposing team’s best perimeter player who could have been a 3 for that team.
We can just trust that Thibs will not put Korver in too many unenviable positions defensively and will maximize his usage on the offensive end. Well I hope we can trust…
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jul 29, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't disagree
that sort of thing can be used to create a mismatch to great effect. but its an exception. people are using korver as part of the argument that we don’t need another 2 guard right now, and with only 3 true guards on the roster i think that’s silly
Finally the NBA has a villain
It's not silly
When Korver will undoubtedly get plenty of minutes as the 2 guard, just like he always has. If you’re making calculations as to how many minutes are left at the 2, it’s only silly to not count the minutes that korver will be playing there.
I'm kind of shock that House went to the heat and not back to boston
I still didn’t want him as a bull, so i’m not too upset, i just wish he went to a team in the west
More motiviation for the Celtics? Going to love watching them play against each other
and Garnett yelling in Houses ear.
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
Dont trade taj!
Dont do it!
Chicago Jazz > Three Am-Egos
by chicago030 on Jul 29, 2010 9:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That makes no sense
they have 4 guys at PF already, including two who are currently way better than taj (aldridge and camby)
Finally the NBA has a villain
But this is also the franchise that thinks Nicholas Batum is the holy grail of basketball players.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jul 29, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Michael Jordan is the Nicholas Batum of America.
In Bayless I trust.
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Nicholas Batum is pretty effin' awesome.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
They have bad luck with injuries
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
Take our best player available
And move someone else, Taj is better than our draft pick and James Johnson. It’s not like they have to keep all their PF’s.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 2, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Portland just
likes to hoard players, I’m surprise they traded Martell Webster.
by QUINTEN DALEY on Aug 2, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Jul 30, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
boozer says no
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
or more specifically, his knees
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
who the heck is this?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 30, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oden is the center, Camby is the backup for Aldridge and Oden and will probably see a lot of minutes between injuries and fouls.
In Bayless I trust.
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Only problem is, Oden is the guy that gets injured and fouls out.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 30, 2010 2:44 AM CDT up reply actions
That's not the problem. It is the reason.
It was stated as the reason for WHY Camby gets minutes (unless you see Aldridge as a guy capable of getting fouls or injured with his style of play).
In Bayless I trust.
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Oh, nevermind
I misread what you wrote initially
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 30, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Camby is a center till Oden gets back, if that ever happens
But I guess even then he’ll still be better than Przybilla. But Cunningham has a better PER than Taj and there’s Pendergraph too…i dunno it just seems dumb. take the pick, Portland
Finally the NBA has a villain
Cunningham is
more undersized than Taj, if I remember correctly.
by QUINTEN DALEY on Aug 2, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
So is it coming down to Mason, Bogans and Rudy (via trade)?
I really think we should go after Rip Hamilton and pay the tax. Who cares. It would hurt Detroit and give us a legit starter not a 8th/9th/10th man. He isn’t the old Rip but can still score in bunches/shoot the 3 (albeit not last yr because he was frankly having an off-year).
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I think at this point in his career he is pretty comparable to salmons.
is it worth trading assets to get back a guy like salmons.
by Uncle Stanley McGoober on Jul 30, 2010 7:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Cant get Rip.
Even if we stole Riley’s bag of tricks.
Yeah except
Reinsdorf never pays the tax
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by chicago030 on Jul 30, 2010 9:18 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I like that other shooting guard on the Pistons
The funny thing is, they probably wouldn’t mind trading him at this point either.
Delonte West anyone???
Id offer him a minumum level unguaranteed contract. Other than his mental issues, he is known as a ferocious defender. An unguaranteed contract couldnt hurt, i mean id be fine with a strong defender as the 12th man. We just need to sign another shooter and we are good
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by chicago030 on Jul 30, 2010 10:03 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Why would you want to even bring that around this team?
I can understand it if it’s a really good player. But there’s a possibility he wouldn’t even play very much on this team. There’s no point. Plus the Bulls would never do it, so…
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 30, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
we could use a good backcourt defender. and no harm bringing him into camp with a unguaranteed contract
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plenty of harm
put the stupid “lebrons mom” thing aside for a second and realize this guy needed a psychologist on hand at all times last year after his court date (for the motorcycle thing). he appears to be certifiably mentally ill, and to pretend like nothing’s wrong and just trot him out on the court would be to stick a ticking time bomb into our FO’s hands – we don’t need to deal with something like that.
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by anorexorcist on Jul 30, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
He'd bipolar, it can be managed with medication
With the proper support system around him, he’s not a walking time bomb
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
by snley on Jul 30, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He had to leave the Cavs multiple times last year to deal with his mental illness
90% of life is just showing up, so why sign a guy who you can’t even count on to do that? I wish him well, but maybe he needs a year off from the pressures of the NBA to deal with his problems. Mental problems are difficult enough for an ordinary person to deal with.
Agreed
I just though it was interesting idea. I didnt know the extent of his issues
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by chicago030 on Jul 30, 2010 12:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I didn't comment on whether the Bulls should sign him. I would like to think the team would at least take the
time to look into his current situation and state of mind. He is a good player.
That said, I replied above because I found the characterization of him as a “ticking time bomb” unfair.
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
I concur
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by chicago030 on Jul 30, 2010 1:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He is having some serious legal troubles though...
which can trigger an episode pretty easily.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Jul 30, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
That's if he accepted the support. There is never no guarantees which makes it a huge risk
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
'That's if he accepts the support. There are no guarantees, which makes it a huge risk.'
fixed
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
The proper support system for Delonte West? Gloria James!
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by Sports2 on Jul 30, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ruling him out solely on account of his mental condition is a violation of the Americans with disabilities act
Not to mention a really scummy thing to do.
I’m not saying we should sign him, but simply saying " he’s crazy so let’s stay away" is immoral on a lot of levels.
Pat Riley is the devil.
How about partially on account of his mental condition?
The path to hell is paved with good intentions, and I’m all for helping folks with disabilities, but it’s never “solely” on account of someone’s mental condition. Unless you define away everything else, by saying carrying around guitar cases full illegal guns on three wheeled motorcycles and sleeping with your teammate’s mom are simply manifestations of his mental condition.
Which, in some sense, they might be, but that’d actually be pretty patronizing to all the folks that suffer bi-polar disorder but still somehow manage to not carry around guitar cases full illegal guns on three wheeled motorcycles and sleep with their teammate’s mom.
By any sensible measure, those are plenty enough reasons to not touch the guy with a ten foot pole.
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there are exceptions to the ADA
first off, it only protects “qualified applicants” or something like that, with the emphasis on qualified. This is so someone wheelchair bound couldn’t complain about not getting a shot in the NBA, or something like that. I think if someone is mentally ill to the point that they could not carry out their job, then it might make them unqualified if they aren’t getting help with it.
But delonte west is getting help
And people with bipolar disorder who receive the proper treatment are no less capable of playing basketball than anyone else.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jul 31, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i agree
I’m just saying that it’s not as black and white as it was initially suggested. I guess the key is that he continues to receive treatment. Judging by his conduct last year, I’m don’t think it’s a given that he’ll continue down that road without setbacks
Sure it's not a black-and-white thing
But delonte west wouldn’t exactly be the first guy to get a second chance after a bad brush with the law. His legal issues are a concern though, and since his bipolar disorder is tied to that, you can’t ignore it, but saying point blank “he’s nuts so let’s stay away” is what I would take issue with.
All in all, i don’t think he’d be a great fit for the bulls, but there are plenty of teams that could use him. It would suck for delonte west not to signed at all since he’s way more deserving of anzNBA contract than jannero pargo
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jul 31, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
he could be useful when we play miami though
he’d get in lebron’s head like nobody’s business
Am I the only one...
That would rather have Mason Jr. over house?
CJ is our back up point, grab another shooter. House, though clearly a shooter, is so small to play 2 and so therefore has to be point. He also annoys me…
WHAT IF
we do not sign anybody and go into camp & pick up say a, matt bouldin,rookie on min. contract and go into season WITH CAP SPACE and down the road get somebody really good & cheap in a trade.
by emBEARassed on Jul 30, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
If he's really good and cheap, why would a team trade that player?
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
Or
Sign a shooter from D league cheap. Then try to get melo via fa or trade
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by chicago030 on Jul 30, 2010 12:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
do u really think a shooter from the D league will get any minutes? why waste the spot?
sign someone in the system. byars, bouldin, john lucas, to a min contract to help develop
or spend a little extra for roger mason jr.
i see those as the two options from here on out
our lineup is deep enough as is – extra spots should be towards development
73
Because Jordan is an old irrelevant dick and we need to demonstrate that to him.
http://www.peninsulaismightier.com/2010/7/30/1594379/daily-poll-how-many-games-will-the
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Is it me,or do the Packers really suck???
by I love football! on Jul 30, 2010 4:00 PM CDT reply actions
How did they get so many votes in that poll?
by Option27 on Jul 30, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Don't you know
When the Heat could be good, they get all these diehard fans retroactive back to the late 90’s.
Majority of Miami Heat fans right now are an infestation.
All these bandwagon fans suddenly popping out of nowhere.
by Wake on Jul 31, 2010 3:58 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Comes with the territory.
I’ve got 242 posts on BaB, 200 of which came when we were in the running for Wade / LBJ. The difference is I still care even when I’m not posting, while there weren’t any Heat fans to care either way a month ago.
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by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Aug 1, 2010 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah i saw that...
and I was kinda like “wow dude…”
but just don’t think that every heat fan is like that. I’m sure there are fans that are just as passionate about the heat as some bulls fans and have stuck with them through good and bad. Can’t blame those guys for liking the new-look Heat. But you can definitely blame the idiotic bandwagoners haha
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 30, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
well, less irrelevant now that he's an actual owner
with a vested interest in his team’s success. So true 6 months ago though.
I mean: “SCREW THEM GO CHICAGO”
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 31, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lets get Alston cuz hes a baller jklol
No lets not. But we shud target michael finley for vet minimum. Great defender and veteran leadership.
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by chicago030 on Jul 30, 2010 8:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I would say at this point we have done what we can....
I want the bulls to find a nice little midrange 2/3 player like tmac, but It seems that he blew his audition.. I don’t care for anyone else left in free agency…Shannon Brown seemed to be maybe one guy that was left that seemed ok to me…but I dont really care if we get him or not…I would say take on a dleague or a vet min because the lineup is already pretty deep…with rose, brewer, deng, booz, noah, taj, and watson all capable of 30+ minutes a game..korver, thomas and johnson able to play 25 minutes and asik needs to play some just to get experience….the 12th player isn’t so huge of a deal to me…Mcgrady would have been nice but I dont think that the bulls want to be his project team, tho if he brings it for another team we will be shooting ourselves for not taking him in.
1. Keep the cap in good shape
2. Try to have some draft picks left, don’t just keep throwing them away like the kirk and #1 pick to washington…I think James Anderson with the 17th pick would have completed our lineup…but I know why they dealt the pick ahead of the free agency
3. Hopefully develop a good chemistry with this team and staff and take it to atleast the conference finals area this year….That would be my goal….its been a long time since we have been anywhere near a title…
by Tyler Durden's House on Jul 31, 2010 1:48 PM CDT reply actions
Why would House do this? D:
He’s already got a ring!
"Did Michael Jordan join the Pistons when he couldn't beat them? No. He dug down deep and went out and kicked their fucking ass."
Because there three paid pipers out there in Miami, and lower tiered players
will seek to go there to be seen on national tv night in and night out. He’s that sort of player, he might only get 10 mins of play, but he will try to get his face on national tv as much as possible, not that there’s a whole lot wrong with that, especially in today’s world. Let him go there, we are pretty much set. I think we got everyone that we wanted (maybe, maybe the front office will try to get another guy). Sure we didn’t get one of the stooges, but hey, we got one of the best guys after them and a bunch of solid role players/specialists. We’ve got a great mix of youth and experience, great balance with defensive and offensive players and a real good coach. I’m not sure what else we could have done!
No activity here for two days.
Is this the Miami Heat board?
well to be fair
there’s nothing really going on. The last things had been the T-Mac and Rudy stuff. We’re into the quiet part of the summer anyway. Once they sign whomever the last signing will be, it’s gonna get real quiet after that.
When one of the top headlines the past few days have been Stoudemire researching his ancestry, you know there’s nada happening.
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