Monday night McGrady
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 26, 2010 7:30 PM CDT
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PrintNothing like the unknown to get a conversation going. There's assumptions abound on McGrady's potential health, production, fit, and attitude...but that's because there's not much reality to go on. He'll always be limited compared to his prime years, yet the hope is he's at least more recovered from knee surgery than he was last season.
And with that new limit to his athleticism comes uncharted territory in his recession away from stardom. Some handle it better than others, and some take a benching in different ways. Tough to know how McGrady will react, let alone what he's saying publicly.
KC Johnson's post-workout report has a couple interesting quotes from T-Mac that can be taken in all sorts of directions (I did like that he admitted he underperformed in NY). KC also tweeted that there were mobility issues in the workout, while Sam Smith can only say 'it went well'.
If merely a workout gets this much attention, it actually gets me more excited to actually add him to team. His playmaking really would be an asset, and cosmetically a bit of (albeit faded) star power makes the team a bit more interesting. Sure, winning is what is most interesting, but at this point of the roster construction there's little wiggle room in that department no matter who they sign, so why not strive for some ancillary value.
(then again, if he really raises a stink about his role...)
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whoa you gave in and created a new thread!
maybe tmac’s injuries will give in too and create a new knee
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
by sin on Jul 26, 2010 7:34 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
haha
I can’t hurt you all with an extra-big thread.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 26, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Amare, Jason Kidd, CWebb, and a few others
had microfracture surgery… Some come back, some don’t…
It might be worth the risk considering it usually takes a year and a half to fully recover from MF.
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 27, 2010 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions
hopefully
he can sign my tonight or tomorrow i think he can help us out
I would have never imagined signing a player for "currently" a 12th roster spot...
would turn out to be such a big deal….
he could be a starter
and to take it a step further
he could be rose’s PIPPEN!
jk i think all this tmac talk is making me go nuts
i really want him. we need some controversy surrounding this team to make it even more interesting.
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
i agree
i think he would really jazz up our bulls team
by rello91 on Jul 26, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think there's already enough Jazz on this team...
…if you know what I mean.
I hate myself.
by ijob on Jul 26, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
You could have gone with
Boozer jazzes our team up…but T-Mac might rocket them over the top. Or provide that extra magic.
by cdsorens on Jul 26, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
...and he's here just in the Knick of time
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 26, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
and we might have KNEEd for him if luol gets denged up
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
by sin on Jul 26, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Its just that we don’t want Rose to be eaten by a Raptor
"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw
by Camry on Jul 27, 2010 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
LMFAO
"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 27, 2010 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions
He could be done.
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Well said
I’m all for it just for the intrigue and possibilities.
I don’t really want Mason Jr or Bogans. They’re too boring. We already know what to expect if they went that route.
McGrady could very well turn out to be an X factor.
The WTFactor
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
by Prevenge on Jul 26, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
i think there is one bad thing about tmac signing
he might teach luol how to milk contracts out of us when his body gives up
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
for this team to overachieve
a couple of players need to significantly overachieve.
Rose is certainly the #1 candidate to do that.
I don’t think Deng, Brewer, Korver, Boozer, Noah have a ton of upside — though their “ground level” is all pretty good.
McGrady as a sixth man offers some upside that could change the team’s fortunes.
Also very interesting to compare/contrast if this was Iverson we were talking about….
why didnt you say mj just to make things interesting
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
Would you really call that "overacheiveing"? Rose is supposed to be really good...
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 26, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
He's the number one pick
People are expecting big things. I still don’t think you call it overachieving. More like “reaching his full potential”
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 26, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
3rd year though
3rd year mvp would definitely be overachieving.
its something durant could barely do
and cp3 almost did.
rose i imagine would have to put up about 25/12 avgs and have the bulls #1 in the east or at least running with mia/orl to be in the conversation at the end of the season
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
by sin on Jul 26, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yea, it would be insanely amazing
Although with everyone hating Lebron and Wade, the road could be a little easier
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 26, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
i dont think so
if anything the road just opened for kobe and maybe durant
i think rose is somewhere in the top 5 of mvp candidates depending on how the team does as a whole
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
Kobe will not be an MVP candidate again
I could see him getting a bad injury before he gets named MVP. I think Durant is right there. If Rose can do something incredible, he might have a shot. Even 25 and 8 could get him some mention
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 26, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
i think the entire league is going to be on his side now
and especially if he has the lakers in the running for best record along with the heat come on
i can guarantee you the media will go nuts over how hes one man (even though he has gasol artest etc) carrying a team thats rivaling the superteam
durant will have the same advantage imo.
the media will go nnuts over whichever one of them can carry a team that looks like it can topple miami’s trio
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
by sin on Jul 26, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
CP3, Melo, Durant, maybe Deron Williams
Rose will have to get much better to get to MVP level.
A 31 year old with a bad back and bionic knee...
Has some upside?
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 26, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Sam update -- looks like it's a no-go.
Thank God.
Anyway, McGrady came, the Bulls saw him and sources indicate no one was all that impressed. Obviously, he’d long ago lost his explosiveness. He had little lift and seemed an ordinary player.
The word from inside the Bulls camp was the team has made no commitment to McGrady and still is evaluating its options. The general feeling around the Bulls was McGrady had brought his own media circus, for a change, and his attitude wasn’t exactly that of a guy willing to play a role.
McGrady made some comments to reporters upon leaving the Berto Center Monday which led one friend of his to shake his head and mutter, "He still doesn’t get it."
http://blogs.bulls.com/2010/07/it-seems-doubtful-the-bulls-have-mcgrady-in-their-future/
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
by Illini15 on Jul 26, 2010 8:08 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
ironic that sam is talking about someone else "not getting it"
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
by sin on Jul 26, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Heh. True, Sam is pretty terrible these days.
I can barely read the guy, but I’m glad to see this report. I hope he’s right.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
hmmmm
interesting….I have been a big believer in giving TMAC a chance but if he is honestly coming to the workout with attitude I actually have to change my opinion. Yes, itd be sorta cool and exciting to sign a big name player (even if he is not in his prime) but i’m more about having a complete TEAM.
i dont know what to think now
Did you really need Sam Smith to tell you this after reading the comments TMac made earlier?
BullsTwo > Back up and running!
by Sports2 on Jul 26, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Seriously, TMac was setting himself up to be as big an acquisition as Boozer
no thank you
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 26, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It really bothered me seeing
T-Mac already talking like in terms like “we,” like he was already on the team. If that’s not a major red flag, then I’m not sure what is.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
by Illini15 on Jul 26, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agree,
after I read his quotes in the ESPN article I thought to myself, this is not a guy that wants to come off the bench. Reminded me more of AI than a Grant Hill.
by ChicagoSizzle on Jul 26, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
This is also the guy
who famously said he was happy to finally be in the 2nd round when Orlando had a 3-1 lead on the Pistons. Then they lost 3 in a row.
As I was reading his comments and thinking last night, I realized that he’s done the same thing again. He took his eye off the prize and let his hopes and big mouth cost him. The Bulls might have thought long and hard about him, but they don’t want this to turn into the MeMac show, nor do they want to deal with any media repercussions if Tracy is asked to be a role player. There’s no way he becomes a Bull now, in my opinion.
by runningman on Jul 27, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why don't you interpret this for us...
again?
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 26, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If I throw a stick, will you leave?
BullsTwo > Back up and running!
by Sports2 on Jul 26, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
BUT THE FIRST HALF OF THE SENTENCE!!!!
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Jul 26, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Now what am I supposed to do?
The team still has about $3 million remaining under the salary cap and still is on the lookout to add a wing player or shooter. It could be through free agency or a trade, though sources say nothing is imminent and the team may not add anyone until closer to the beginning of training camp.
Sign Eddie House.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
by Illini15 on Jul 26, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
And his knee socks.
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
by DocPepper on Jul 26, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Without them and with the 30 extra pounds.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 26, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm shocked anyone remembers who that is
I’m from Connecticut so I’m a UConn fan, but. damn.
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
I remember he
played in the rookie game and the Bulls cut him about a week later. Fat PGs have no place in the NBA. Unless you’re John Bagley, Sherman Douglass, and Rumiel Robinson.
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 27, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
HOW U TALKING
(granted he’s short)
All I want in life is for UC fans to chant: Deeeeeloooonte during Heat games
From what I've heard
the T-Wolves are going to release Delonte West ASAP. Why not make a run for him. He fills all the needs.
Can shoot a little.
Plays hard (if not good) defense.
Can run the point.
Has a ratty beard.
Alright, that last one isn’t a priority to me…
"I want to be that guy. I want to be the reason the Bulls are back."- Derrick Rose.
"I'm never leaving Chicago."- Derrick Rose
He's bipolar. For his sake, I hope he lands with an org more enlightened about employee relations
Well, isn't what LeBron did last night the living embodiment of The Secret, leaving millions on the table and turning himself into a hometown villain, all for the sake of winning?
Neil Paine, basketball-reference.com
I do not want him sleeping with Derrick's mom
Keep him the hell away
by DickFractal on Jul 27, 2010 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Some guys are just plain confused mentally...
Did he think getting a piece of older azz from a teammate’s mom would afford him ++ favor to sign with other teams?
To the contrary…. his NBA career is basically over…
Someone might say.. I hope it was worth it…
"Maybe Paxson influenced has been a bit silenced :-)"
The guys's bipolar
Yes, that falls under “confused mentally”
honestly, I'm more confused by what Lebron's mom was thinking
Did she think sleeping with one of her son’s teammates would go over well?
If the original arguement is T-mac would be bad for the sake of team chemistry
and we sign Delonte West, it, well…if you’re a fat kid you can’t walk around calling other fat kids, fat.
So Sam just happened to be right there to hear that muttering?
Now I have a funny picture in my head.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 26, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, sounds like Sam Smith has been dabbling in fiction
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 26, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
or acid.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
by Illini15 on Jul 26, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
or too many Seinfeld reruns
(sorry, I’ll try not to mention Sam’s television viewing habits anymore)
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 26, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup. Those quotes about he and Boozer making the difference really soured me on it.
I know you want to appear confident, that you want to prove you still got it. But there’s bravado and then there’s delusion.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 26, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Especially when he said "Me and Boozer thats 30 points"
I took it as Boozer scoring 24 and him scoring 6, lol.
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 27, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I personally think Sam is insane
There could e some validity to this, but I don’t put much stock into Sam’s reporting. It sounds like he’s enjoying writing it way too much
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 26, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Look at the quote I just posted below.
It appears that, somehow, T-Mac is even more delusional than Sam. That’s scary.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Sam just doesn't like him
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
by J Theory on Jul 26, 2010 8:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I can't comprehend why they wouldn't take a chance
even a McGrady with bad knees can still shoot he doesnt have to slash or make flashy plays…..primarily he can be a ball handler and table setter, with an occasional three and his beautiful j to add….considering all reports said he shot the ball well..He could bring experience…..Thibs has already coached him before, so he has a familiarity with Tmac…..He’s a decent help defender with good size and length…. yes, he could cry about minutes but why not look at the positive and say maybe brewer could take exception to the signing and a little competition wouldn’t hurt anyone and maybe it only makes brewer work harder….lot of maybe’s yes , but isn’t thats whats fun abt the offseason….either way Bulls fans have more to look forward to than captain dirt …. and that will always be a plus in my book.
We got three mil of wiggle room
I say we sign almond and byars to a deal, then put some players on the block with a pick and see who bites. The bulls arent the sort to do a trade right now, but going into the season with this roster:
rose/watson
Brewer/Almond/Byars
Deng/Korver/JJ
Boozer/Taj/Thomas
Noah/Asik/Thomas
isnt half bad at all. It may not be news worthy, but it will compete, and by the time we get to allstar break we will have a way better bearing of where to go and what to do. Making a move just to make a move i think is counterproductive…Tmac only made sense if he had skills of a better than average player. So that WHEN he was healthy he made an impact on this team. But if a healthy tmac is only as good as a guy like Almonds (or worse…pargo) then theres no point of seeking star power just to appease the average fan. Were not winning this year to beging with, and as is we are good enough for the 5th seed…might as well make smart moves from here on out….
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
to beging with????
what happened there
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Byars and/or Almond shouldn't be priorities
There’s no need to do anything with them right now. Plus you can get them for the minimum, so you might as well use that space on a more proven player, the Bulls still need one. Then you can still get one of those guys to round out the roster
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 26, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't sign anyone
Just the D-leaguers.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I agree with this
You never know. Maybe we’ll catch lightning in a bottle with someone. I think the Bulls are long overdue to find some surprise quality player out of nowhere.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jul 27, 2010 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Taj is a first round draft pick
Not an out-of-nowhere D-Leaguer
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jul 27, 2010 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Just barely. 26th
Made the all rookie-team.
I say he counts
by BAB-Bass on Jul 27, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
First round is first round
And I cannot imagine how a 4 year college player out of a major program who was the defensive player of the the Pac-10 could be consider ‘out of nowhere.’
D-Leaguers are ‘out of nowhere’ on account that no one really knows who they are. Taj, is not.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jul 27, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Taj was a shocking pick regardless
He was known as a decent college player, but few expected him as a guaranteed contract (first round pick).
I agree he wasn’t completely unknown, but he definitely surprised in the NBA as a rookie.
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
by majoyenrac on Jul 27, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Undoubtedly a surprise
And a pleasant one. But not out of nowhere.
Wes Matthews was out of nowhere. He was undrafted if I am correct and ended up being the starting 2 guard on a playoff team. Taj simply exceeded expectations, but he was drafted as a defensive 4 who rebounds well and he did just that.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jul 27, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Such ignorance from a fellow dentist...
I dunno what to say.
How about you do some research and make a list of 26th picks or later in the last 20 years who made the all rookie team?
i think all hes saying was that,
at the end of the day he was still a somebody college player and had a name for himself
I think you need to considering what `out of nowhere means`
Before you go about calling people ignorant. By your knowledge, DeJuan Blair was out of nowhere because he was drafted in the 2nd round. Moreso, you should ask me to clarify what i mean instead of being a smartass. If I meant 1st round pick in any capacity I would have said so. Considering we were talking about signing D-league players, I think my point should have been obvious.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jul 27, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Better to be a smartass than a dumbass...
I can cuss you out in ten languages so you don’t wanna start something. :P
Out of professional courtesy I will treat you nicely, though… ;)
The whole issue, as you stated, is the “surprise quality player out of nowhere” statement. I believe Taj qualifies as such, you do not. We disagree, that’s fine by me. :)
Wes Matthews
At the same time played for Marquette, a team that was all over the tough Big East…..
Now he’s probably dramatically overpaid……but he was perhaps more well known to the masses than Taj Gibson….by virtue of the Big East being so dominant.
i agree he surprised, but TAJ was a all rookie first team.
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
i like this attitude. i dont see why people are having problems with him setting his goals high
KCJHoop TMac, on whether he would come off bench: “"I won’t have a problem, but that’s not what I’m really shooting for.”
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
KC:
TMac, on whether he would come off bench: “"I won’t have a problem, but that’s not what I’m really shooting for.”
Go. Away. T-Mac.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
by Illini15 on Jul 26, 2010 8:26 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
why are people against him aiming high
hes saying hes okay coming off the bench but he wants the chance to compete for a starting spot in training camp.
this is all ive gotten from his quotes. i see nothing wrong with a guy who thinks he has something to prove.
if he proves he can then great. we have a good player
if he proves he cant then hes coming off the bench like he says
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
Exactly...
You want him not to have a problem with a bench role, but still strive and work hard to get back to starter form. I don’t see an issue with this. You want a guy coming off an injury to be hungry.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 26, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Becuase it's a problem when a player's confidence level and self image
is dramatically out of sync with his ability. Those guys almost always hurt teams far more than they help teams.
by Scotter on Jul 26, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 12 recs
but from everything we saw from iverson last year this is very different
iverson was very much the i can do it i can do it
tmac is saying i can do it give me a chance and if i cant then ill sit my ass down
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
by sin on Jul 26, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Plus
Iverson expected to be starting. If Mcgrady signs, the org. better make sure he knows that he can’t just expect a starting job
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 26, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
It's basically the same thing as Iverson.
A guy who’s only been able to be an offensive asset in a starring role, but no longer can be efficient offensively to justify that role do to age and injury. And a player that has not demonstrated any ability to be more efficient in a reduced offensive role.
It’s not just Iverson. It’s Glenn Robinson. It’s Chris Webber. It’s Jermaine O’Neal. It’s nearly every player that had a big enough ego and self confidence to take a ton of shots at only moderate efficiency and then found themselves unable to even maintain moderate efficiency later in their careers.
by Scotter on Jul 26, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I sort of agree
But your examples are a little flawed. Glenn Robinson still managed to be a productive player in his later years. Chris Webber was very solid for the 06-07 Pistons. Jermaine O’Neal just had a very nice season in Miami. If we get that kind of production from TMac, I’ll be very content.
And if he ends up being ‘09-’10 Allen Iverson 2.0, we can just cut him loose like the Grizzlies did.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jul 26, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Check out this quote...
“This year for me is so personal,”
“It’s basically going to be my rookie season again.
And
This guy has many years of basketball left in him … and he is eager. He expressed it to us to get going with the task of helping our team reach a whole other level of success
Sounds like AI was really motivated to prove himself too…and the GM heard that he wanted to help the team have success…
How did that work out again?
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 26, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Marbury, AI, Tmac, Brand and Shaq
perfect starting lineup for the Seattle Supersonics
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 26, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Penny coming off the bench.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 26, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your New York Knicks!
BullsTwo > Back up and running!
by Sports2 on Jul 26, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
AI had personal issues going on at home, as far as we know T-Mac doesn't.
Rumor was his wife almost left him.
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
None of that had anything to do with
him being unwilling to take a lesser role and basically demanding to either start or be cut, despite the fact that it wasn’t what was best for the team.
I believe she's been leaving him for the last 10 years...
"Maybe Paxson influenced has been a bit silenced :-)"
by exult463 on Jul 27, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly. It has happened time and time again.
I’m not sure why so many people around here are blatantly ignoring this.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
I don't think peope are ignoring it
It’’s just that there is room on the roster for a player like this. It’s not like we have an All-Star at the two or three, and we’ve had some injury issues with guys. In my case, I’m kinda indifferent. I can see where he could help, but I won’t be devastated if he didn’t come.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 26, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
He has
been black balled, too much talent not to be on an NBA team, thats a guy I would look at.
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 27, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Its probably just my own over-analysis,
but I just see too much Iverson in his quotes. The situations are definitely different, but that late 90’s/early 21st century one man superstar “I’ma get mine” mentality still seems prevalent in his quotes. It just made me raise a cynical eyebrow is all. Quotes don’t make or break a team though, and perhaps ESPN was just rabble rousing. Gahh I just want this season to get underway.
by ChicagoSizzle on Jul 26, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Why?
What exactly was he suppose to say? " Yeah even though I busted my tail coming back from Micro surgery , I’m only 31, and I’m willing to take the minimum in salary play, I’m more than willing to be the 12th man and play behind such greats as Ronnie Brewer and CJ Watson." “There’s no way that I think I’m capable of outplaying them”
I don’t get this “cancer” talk. Hell if he acts up you do to him what you did to Larry Hughes and Tim Thomas…You let him go. I don’t know what everyone is so afraid of. I’m more worried about Mr. 71 making it through a whole season and we’re worried about Tracy McGrady being a cancer? Get out of here.
by Dils on Jul 26, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
The problem is...
Before the team gives him the Larry Hughes or Tim Thomas treatment, McGrady will give them that treatment on the floor…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Yeah but I'd rather
have that then to watch a Janero Pargo get important minutes or whatever other scrub gets them. To me the only threat that McGrady poses is that he’s actually good. I mean think about it. He’s cheap and at the mercy of being cut by the only team willing to give him a shot. He’s won’t be an issue unless he’s good enough to be an issue. So again I’m confused at why so many are so against this.
I can see if we are about to give him Stoudamire money or something. Also if you’re going to worry about TMAC then by default you have to be worried about Boozer. He’s injury prone, doesn’t have the cleanest record when it comes to being a great teammate, and he’s a bigger financial investment. So again, what’s wrong with taking a shot?
by Dils on Jul 26, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
What do you mean?
(Boozer)doesn’t have the cleanest record when it comes to being a great teammate
I have never heard anything about him not being a good teammate, demanding trades or otherwise being a disruption to a team…
McGrady complained his way out of Orlando, was traded to Houston, then was sent home for being a distraction to that team last season…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 26, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
he was openly flirting with other teams last year while with the jazz
he backstabbed cleveland for utah.
wwerent the jazz annoyed with his constant flirting with other teams last year during the season?
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
You haven't heard of Boozer
having issues with the Jazz as far as him leaving or his reneging on the Cavs management before going to the Jazz?
I have not heard of any issues with the Jazz...
If you have quotes or links, that would be appreciated.
I recall the Cleveland incident, but I don’t think that makes him a bad teammate, but more of a greedy money motivated professional…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 26, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
The Cleveland incident has nothing to do with being a teammate
He didn’t make a promise to the guys on the floor, who all understand him trying to get the biggest contract he could, it was to the Cavs GM.
It’s a huge reach to take that incident and call him a bad teammate.
Living In A Fantasy
I understand that you fantasy leaguers only care about stats and there’s no negative stat for player drama. They call it Fantasy for a reason though.
More importantly, we’ve done well to send all of our bad players to the Knicks… not the other way around. They’ve already had T-Mac… who would you dump him off to?
What is he supposed to say?
When asked about how he feels about a bench role, he SHOULD say “I’ll do whatever the team needs to be successful, including not playing at all” or something to that effect. Make it about the TEAM, not TRACY McGRADY! Of course every player would prefer to start, but should be willing to do whatever it takes to win as a team.
I guess I don't have an issue with him having confidence
but he really doesn’t sound like a guy that’s ready to take a small role. The quotes about him and Boozer being great additions was a little bit scary.
The thing I don’t get, and Sam mentioned this, why the hell would the Bulls even work this guy out? If it was such a stretch to sign him, why go through all this bullshit? It’s just dumb.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 26, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's like Matt said: The Arn Tellem buddy-buddy favor from Reinsdorf.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
I don't see how this is much of a favor
More embarrassing than anything, particularly if the Bulls don’t sign him
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 26, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
They can always say
“Hey, we took a look at him and kept an open mind, but he fucking sucked in the workout and moved like he was 80. We just can’t sign him. Sorry, Arn!”
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
by Illini15 on Jul 26, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
It's a team at least willing to take a look at him and generated
fairly significant media conference. That’s significant because more than likely Arn and MGrady will eventually be looking for another team like the Knicks that is going no where and just wants to cash in on McGrady’s ability to still draw media coverage and fan interest.
by Scotter on Jul 26, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Would you want a player
who says he’s best suited for the bench?
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
by DocPepper on Jul 26, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
If he's saying that because he's aware of his limitations
and he can also be effective in the role I’m looking to fill absolutely.
by Scotter on Jul 26, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Yes, if that's the truth. Which it is in T-Mac's case.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Lol
The past 12 years have been about the journey. I’m not even sure how I’d react if we reach the destination.
by ChicagoSizzle on Jul 26, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Cavs-Wolves trade has Delonte West changing teams, with Minny sure to release him (unguaranteed contract)
Maybe there’s a chance we scoop him up? Would be nice to have him off the bench, if his head is screwed on properly
I was all for the Bulls bringing in TMac but after reading his comments
im not so sure. He was already talking about himself being a leader of the team along with Carlos Boozer while making no mention of Derrick Rose. For once, I might agree with Sam Smith. The guy sounds like he’s living in his own world. I don’t like the idea of them bringing in a player that could potentially impede upon Derrick’s leadership of this squad.
still..
I have been mentioning TMAC for weeks and the idea of bringing in someone with his potential skill level at a bargain price is very enticing. If coaching/management can get it into his head that DRose is the man then I’m all for it.
Completely wrong on that one. He said he could be a great addition ALONG WITH BOOZER.
You see, Rose was already on the team last year, which he had already complimented, and he went on to say he liked the direction they were headed with the addition of Boozer, Korver, and hopefully himself. But of there’s enough irrational hatred toward TMAC that even fans of the team he has professed his commitment for would rather read it as a slight toward the group of guys he was complimenting.
If you think his knee is bad, fine. Just stop with all the overwrought accusations of a personality issue where there is none.
by Jerry Mumphrey on Jul 27, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Apparently Sam and KC are having a contest to see who can make the most jokes at T Mac's expense tonight:
KCJHoop
Um. My guess is never? RT @tbo41fan: @KCJHoop so did the bulls offer mcgrady a contract yet? Did they tell him when they wud?
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 26, 2010 8:49 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
What's Romain Sato's situation
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
Signed with a team in Europe.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 26, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Go after him if TMac isn't in the fold
he even looks like Tracy
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
Considering what last year's end roster spots were filled with:
(Pargo, Hunter, Gray) even last year’s Tmac provides more to us.
And this year we need it less, as our frontline is much more formidable and capable.
Gar/Pax is getting smarter!
They posted video of the whole media session on the Trib website
Here’s the link. A little more interesting when you hear him saying these things, instead of just reading the quotes.
(Sidenote: I didn’t hear Sam asking any questions, was he on the side somewhere listening for mutterings?)
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 26, 2010 9:22 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Wow, seems in his heart he already feels he is a Bull
So if doesn’t get the offer it’ll remind me of Keyshawn Johnson getting cut from the Panthers after they draft Dwayne Jarrett and Keyshawn was on the air talking excitedly about how he was going to mentor the kid.
Ugly.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jul 26, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
he was misquoted slightly
he actually always said “if we” rather than straight out “we” when referring to the bulls. and it looks worse yet when they don’t quote the specific question first, which puts that “we” in a context of speculation initially.
this was worth the 8 minutes, and much more so than spending 8 mins reading speculation on blog-a-bull re: the printed comments. should make it a fanshot link.
i do agree that he clearly would prefer to play in chicago next season, above any others, seemingly. not a fan, but this gives me second thoughts. i remember those post game playoff interviews with yao as humorously engaging too.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
i went and made a fanshot myself
failed to link back here, however, missing out on jbj’s “A little more interesting when you hear him saying these things…” quote. :-(
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
He sold me
Or maybe it’s the attention he’s getting that sold me
God, the media is ruthless with those questions!
Man, thats the face a fading super star puts up right there.
You got to give him credit for keeping his pride and not given in to the bench role quite yet. But you can tell he knows its coming, he just wants one last shot.
Tragic/Awesome. One of the two.
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 27, 2010 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions
“listening for mutterings?”
hahahaha Sam asks the tough questions and answers them himself.
"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw
by Camry on Jul 27, 2010 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Defininteily interesting
From what I read, he sounded like trouble. Listening to him, I like the idea much better. Together, I conclude that I have no idea whether he would be a good or bad signing. What the hell, give him a shot.
T-Mac's ceiling IMO
would be the “Bill Walton Celtics 6th Man” role for this team. I really think that’s the best we can expect, which if achieved, would be pretty sweet. But that all depends on T-Mac and how he accepts his role with the team. I think it’s worth rolling the dice on him.
yay "sources" keeping the dream alive!
A Source tells CSNChicago.com the Bulls’ flirtation with McGrady is real and that he could sign with the team in the next week or two.
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
2 weeks? Ugh, I don't have the stomach for a two week McGrady watch
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 26, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously. Just go get Roger Mason and be done with it.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 26, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Roger Mason
Yawn….
Come on Bulls make a splashy sign. TMAC is nothing if not splashy. Who knows he could be something this year, which is better than another yawn player off of our bench.
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
The time has passed for splashy signings.
Or at least ones that can really help the team. How pathetic would it look for the Bulls tried to sell that they’ve made a big splash by signing … a faded, broken-down superstar, who still thinks he can start, that the Clippers don’t even want.
Splashy trades, though … well, I guess something can happen.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 27, 2010 7:52 AM CDT up reply actions
But what if that faded broken dodwn former superstar
gets 75-80% of his former glory back?
Plus it’s crystal clear Derrick Rose is a big time fan, saying he grew up thinking he’d be 6 8 after being 6 foot in 7th grade, but when he stopped growing he had to change his game.
Plus I think who knows there’s a chance TMAC will be you know as good as Brewer, and I can take a different look Brewer type for the full 48 minutes at that position….there’s a chance TMAC will be better.
We need help still at SG, and TMAC has promise to potentially be a bit of that help.
Little risk possibly big reward kind of a deal.
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
I thought this sentence was heading somewhere else...
Thomas, known for his rugged…
defense, rebounding ability, accurate mid-range jumper and overall toughness
He is a looker.
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
by DocPepper on Jul 26, 2010 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
one to 2 weeks doesn't sound like the org's current M.O.
sounds like he is plan B
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 26, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
i just really want this to happen so bad
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
by sin on Jul 26, 2010 9:56 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
I just don't know anymore.
I loved the idea a few days ago.
But the reactions to his workout was that he lost a few steps, was a shade of the shade of his former self, lost the explosiveness and athleticism that made him who he was.
What is he gonna look like at full game speed?
Now people come back from microfracture surgery, ie Jason Kidd. But Jason Kidd is nowhere near the type of player Tracy is— he never depended on his athleticism like TMac.
Also. Tracy is a career 38% shooter. He hasn’t shot a respectable percent like 45% since he was Superman and averaged 32. If now, he’s going to be depended on for his shot and not his athleticism, isn’t it a waste of a spot on the roster for an older, average shooter?
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
have you looked at kidd's 3pt numbers? i dont see why a natural scorer like tmac cant turn into a standstill 3pt shooter
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
Except
Kidd’s job has been to distribute the ball, not be a scoring option on the bench, OR to be a relied upon shooter.
And will he suddenly just shoot the ball better because the Bulls tell him to?
just because someone is a natural scorer doesn’t mean they do it by shooting— Rose is a natural scorer and he never had a reliable 3 point shot (until now at least.)
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
But he should more so be getting open shots and probably in rhythm. It was tougher with the Rockets squad where Yao and T-Mac took turns getting injured.
And I still think hes going to continue to improve from how he was with the Knicks. (not by a ton though)
"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw
Agreed with the workout concern.
This is the time where he should be going all out to show the team what he can offer. What happens when he’s frustrated in a game during the season? That playing rate would decrease even more dramatically.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 26, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
visa-versa would be
his senses have taken a leave of him?
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Jul 26, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Options
I said this before, the bulls are just checking all their options………………i just wish they would sign Roger Mason Jr. and stop this BS
ouch
KCJHoop This time, TMac leaving the Berto without a signed contract wasn’t his choice. http://bit.ly/9SV5Nc
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
by sin on Jul 26, 2010 10:37 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
funny. but i still think we should give a chance to him
“I’d fit in well,” an amiable McGrady told reporters. "I’d bring what I know about the game and my athleticism and versatility. Knowing my smarts for the game, leadership, anything I can add to help these guys over the edge.
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
KC's a tough guy all of a sudden
BullsTwo > Back up and running!
by Sports2 on Jul 27, 2010 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
check it out...sam smith talked about us in his mailbag...
Sam: I know that’s the prevailing wisdom of a lot of fans, and someone wrote me to say on one of the Bulls blog sites it’s 80-20 for McGrady…
by K_yle33 on Jul 26, 2010 10:39 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
No No NOooo!
They better NOT sign this guy. He’s been a total jerk to the Bulls organization from the moment he entered the league. He felt spurned by Bulls so he acted like child when Krause tried to sign him. He deserves a big FU when it comes to offering anything to him.
He’s not worth anything.
im confident after hearing these words
“Thibodeau was with me for three years,” he said. “If I was a bad locker room guy, I don’t think he’d have any interest in bringing me here. People around the league know me and know I’m not that type of person.”
“I’ve had my time where I was a really big name and top player in the NBA with endorsement deals,” McGrady said. “But eventually none of that stuff really matters. What matters now is contributing to this club if I’m a part of it and trying to win a championship.”
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
by sin on Jul 26, 2010 10:43 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
i think the thibs quote speaks volumes
it is a truth. thibs has coached him. i would believe he would immediately sign off on the idea if it was in any way detrimental to the first impression he has to make this year
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
What the fuck does 30 points better mean?
“Without me, without (Carlos) Boozer, they were a .500 club. With the guys that they added, and if you add me, I think we’ll be 30 points better.”
First it was 30 better. Now it’s 30 points better?
by Option27 on Jul 26, 2010 11:02 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I am pretty sure it was
Points. Probably thinking 18 pts from Boozer 12 from him better than they’d have otherwise…
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
Or wins
Instead of being 41-41, they’d be 56-26, 30 games over 500.
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
30 games over 500
is 71 isnt it….did u do percentage points? where did that 56-26 come from?
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Take a chance.
I like his confidence that he wants to show that he can still start if given the opportunity, but something just rubs me the wrong way in how he said it. It was almost cocky if you ask me. :/ TAKE A CHANCE!
Not sure if anyone posted this link
Sources: Bulls not sold on McGrady
"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw
to me its not a question of health
I guess theres two negative scenarios i look at…the first is the one i hope for, which is why i call the “Andrew Bynum” scenario. This scenario reads that the player in question is often injured, however when he isnt, and is finally able to play, he plays at a high enough level to consistently have a positive impact on his team. The second scenario is what i call the “Larry Hughes” scenario. In this scenario the player in question acts as if he is some legendary player, while he really contributes nothing to the team, and in the locker room interviews constantly addresses his displeasure of his role/minutes.
Everytime i think about Tmac on this team, i hope he is the first of the negative scenarios, in that if the bulls monitor him correctly so that if he goes this season he can return in the playoffs, he becomes a valuable xfactor against teams, which can really benefit the bulls. We dont need Tmac to get into the playoffs, we may need him to advance though.
During these workouts my question wouldnt be, can Tmac stay healthy, but more like, can he still play. Even if he lacks explosiveness or mobility, can he perform at a high level. Can he still create a shot for himself and others, has he aquired or refined skills that allow him to get by without athleticism. If the answer is yes, then i sign him, I let him start as long as hes healthy, because even if he isnt head and shoulders better than brewer, if he can be an xfactor in the playoffs, i want him to be. When he goes down i ease him in slowly, promising him that come playoff time he can start again, but we need him for the playoff time.
So i hope the bulls are evaluating tmac in the same way. If the skill is there, then i say bear with the ego, however if the skills arent there, then dont bother…..
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
my question is if his body can handle 10-15 min a game then why not sign him?
according to reports of his workouts, he shot well but showed mobility issues.
now maybe im alone on this one but for a supposed 12th man (which is what we are signing and what we are expecting if we are asking him to sit on the bench) if he can be a stand still shoot that should be more than enough to take the risk considering the possible upside.
consider our bench at the moment.
the rotation guys as of now would most likey be gibson asik watson korver
with kurt thomas and jj left
korver cannot guard 2’s 3’s so whats the point of being mobile anyways. hes just a standstill shooter.
watson i have not seen much of but i imagine hes not much more than a small backup for rose handling the ball a bit and shooting a few threes.
gibson and asik are the back up bigs. with kurt thomas as insurance
and jj well lets not talk about jj
so we have a solid bench already that can come in and do certain things to hold up while the starters take a breather.
now add tmac.
AT WORST he gets cut.
the most likely scenario is that he ends up being a spot up shooter and not much more (which is essentially another korver whchi is fine for a 12th man)
now the upside.
he could potentially give us another ballhandler. another player to carry the offense on a slow night. someone who can get 20+ on a given night.
ANY of those would be a plus. this is the 12th man we’re talking about right now.
i dont see the point of arguing for house/bogans/mason (who are basically all going to play the korver standstill and shoot 3 role) as a 12th man that probably wont see many minutes anyways.
with tmac he either accepts a role if he sucks or he turns out awesome and ends up cracking the rotation. nothing to lose. and we can always sign one of those dleaguers everyones in love with if things dont pan out
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
Please Christ No
This would be the first move by the Bulls this summer that I don’t like but I would really hate this move. T-mac no longer has any upside and there is no reason to put up with his ego. Thankfully, he can’t shut his mouth and told the Bulls all they need to hear in that interview…
He’d be the only player on the Bulls giving a marginal effort. Please Bulls… pass!
by xFIB on Jul 27, 2010 7:04 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
ESPN - TMac signing unlikely
ESPN is reporting that TMac is unlikely to be signed by the Bulls.
McGrady apparently has not convinced the Bulls that he is willing to embrace a secondary role, which is one of two key prerequisites the two-time scoring champ must satisfy to secure a deal from Chicago.
One source close to the process told ESPN.com that the prospect of Chicago signing McGrady was downgraded to “unlikely” after the workout and interview, with the Bulls saying they wanted more time to consider other options.
by chgobr on Jul 27, 2010 7:19 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
"More time to consider other options."
Hmm. I wonder how quickly they’ll move on filling out the roster now. So far they’ve been quick to react this offseason after the LeBron/Big Three fiasco and when it became clear the Magic would match on Redick.
And I wonder where in the NBA McGrady will end up, if anywhere. Maybe he can sign with the Grizzlies and re-ignite the great Xavier Henry debate of 2010.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 27, 2010 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Does that article really need
the three d-bags from Miami smiling on the side?
by Wake on Jul 27, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Man, I can't believe the Bulls didn't read the first half of the sentence.
lousy bums
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Jul 27, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i smelling a rudy trade if we dont get TMac
All I want in life is for UC fans to chant: Deeeeeloooonte during Heat games
You know this source is reliable
He is close to “the process.” NOBODY understands the process
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 27, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
it must
have worked,i said whole rosary all nite they would not sign him.move on tmac
FWIW: Broussard on McGrady, just now on SportsCenter:
It would be interesting to see if ended up with anybody if he didn’t go to Chicago.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 27, 2010 8:33 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
if *he*
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 27, 2010 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions
HE
has no lateral movement,cant cut,will get run over in the pick ’n roll and will not be able to score enough to make up for all that. my suggestion (taking broussard theory that nobody will sign him) is to verbally till him he has 6 months to finnish his rehab to get movement back & we will talk in feb
All I have to say about McGrady to the Bulls
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
gasp
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DON’T SIGN THAT GUY PLEEEEEEEEEEEAAAASEEEEEEE
Let's give Eddie House a few bucks and call it a summer
If you can’t impress anyone in a workout, how can you impress anyone in a game? He’s shooting over folding chairs, running through cones and doing some jumps— all without human contact. Just think about this: he is talking about coming to the table with athleticism but he cannot even dominate cones. What happens when he’s on Kobe? Or Keyon Dooling?
If the Bulls are serious about team chemistry and making the team equal more than its parts (or whatever), TMac is the 100% wrong move. This guy is a broken down former star with a false sense of his current abilities. This has “disaster” written all over it.
The cones were strategically placed by Thibodeau, so they can D up.
by Mike Mueller on Jul 27, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Actually I heard
the cones were on offense at the time but Tmac didn’t impress with his D…
mcgrady still wants to compete for starting position !!!
Tmac is crazy delusional he still can seem to accept his as far as coming off the bench im really hoping the bulls will not sign him
by Englewood_State of_Mind on Jul 27, 2010 10:50 AM CDT reply actions
Everyone on the roster should be competing for a starting position.
Don’t be ridiculous.
by Jerry Mumphrey on Jul 27, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
TMac did not allay Bulls concerns but inflamed them.
The Bulls needed reassurance he would play backup. TMac’s response did not mute the Bulls concern only inflamed them. If he was ready to accept a backup position he needed to emphasize that not raise the issue of starting.
no, you give starting spots
Rose gets one, Noah gets one, Deng gets one, Boozer gets one, and likely Brewer gets one. This isn’t high school.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 27, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
he's the worst
and i pray to god they tell him to get lost
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by Orlando Woolridge on Jul 27, 2010 1:06 PM CDT reply actions
You saw it on 2 channels?
"Well you're giving me the opportunity to agree with Bill Plaschke and Marriotti, I'm gonna pass" - Tim Cowlishaw
by Camry on Jul 27, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think they have been "prepared" to sign him.
Provided he accepts a clearly defined bench role. It doesn’t look like he is.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 27, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
any chance lakers are still in the run for mcgrady?
bulls are fine with what they have a good team
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Woj is conducting a massive LeBook burning.
And the Lakers have a glaring need for McGrady? lol
I think ultimately both the Bulls and Lakers will pass on T-Mac, as they should
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by Max_in_Missouri on Jul 27, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would the Lakers pass on him?
While I can understand and support the Bulls passing on him, because I could imagine him doing some real damage with bitching and locker room lawyering, he wouldn’t have that power with the Lakers. They’d simply laught their asses off at him. And maybe let Kobe bust him in the mouth.
In short, they don’t have the downside that the Bulls potentially have. On the other hand, they, and every other team, can use another potentially good player.
BullsTwo > Back up and running!
the lakers already have a much better version of mcgrady in lamar odom.
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lakeshow got barnes and Ron @ the 3
they dont need Tmac
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by BullsFan22 on Jul 27, 2010 8:58 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
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