BlogABron 7/2 Morning roundup - Warrick to PHO, Amare gone? Pierce back with Celtics
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 2, 2010 10:33 AM CDT
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PrintJust came across this on the tweet-box, the Bulls have lost their first incumbent player, with Hakim Warrick* signing a 4 yr, $18m deal with the Phoenix Suns, who just signed Channing Frye to a multiyear deal the day before.
That, and other reports of deteriorating contract talks, suggest Amare Stoudemire is done in Phoenix. The Knicks are reportedly pushing hard for Amare to help their LeBron (who's meeting with the Heat this morning) pitch.
Elsewhere, Paul Pierce, who just opted out of the final year of his contract, is going to return to the Celtics for a 4 year deal. More money for Pierce, lower cap number for the Celtics.
*I suppose Warrick would've been nice to keep around at the minimum after our super-team is built. Clearly this deal from Phoenix is way way more than that. Pretty astounding for a guy that couldn't get more than a 1-year contract as an FA the year before, and it's not like he had the greatest year, despite media proclamations making him out to be 'Tyrus Thomas but not a jerk' early in his Bulls tenure. Always good for a highlight dunk, though.
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The official "Bosh impressed with Bulls, and signs with them" thread.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 2, 2010 10:36 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
in our dreams.
anyone know what time we meet with Bosh today?
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
is it really happening right now?
has Bosh tweeted that and I missed it? bummer, Bosh. bummer.
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
how long has it been since his last tweet?
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jul 2, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope so
If Bulls lock up Bosh it’s a great offseason
by DRose01 on Jul 2, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
yep yep
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Bosh or James or Wade=success
12 months ago who actually thought we had a legit shot at any of them?
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 2, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
True. I'm sure the "narrative" of the documentary will be about his tough choices.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Def good for a highlight dunk
i think he’ll fit in perfect for the Suns
Deng might be your cup of tea..me personally? I don't like pieces of sh*t in my tea.
I have a feeling stuff starts happening today, possibly tonight.
Beyond the Warricks, Goodens, Darkos and Fryes of the world, that is.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Who else is Bosh scheduled to meet with?
Will today conclude his team meetings?
For everyone railing against the evils of overpaying
Lets hear it for the suns refusing to overpay amare so they can replace him with warrick who is a fraction of the player amare is. If phx thought amare was bad on d wait til they get a load of warrick. This is the problem with not overpaying— either overpay or stay mired on mediocrity. All of a sudden a team on the verge of the finals takes a giant step back by not overpaying.
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
by Calogero on Jul 2, 2010 10:42 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Totally agree.
For an extra 6 mil/yr, they could have kept Amare. Note: Amare > Frye + Warrick + 6 Mil
by Reacharounder on Jul 2, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Doesn't Amare want the max?
18M – (18M/4 = 4.5M) = extra 13M a year. Even if you add Frye’s 5yr/30M contract to that calculus, you’re still talking 8M a year more, and that’s just in the first year. Amare’s raises would be bigger and his contract would last an extra year than either one (and two years more than Warrick’s).
I’m not saying it was the right decision, but it was certainly a weightier financial decision than you make it out to be.
in a sense,
didn’t they overpay for both frye and warrick? seems to me like they did
This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training
Not really...
Frye is an average NBA player who got paid an average NBA salary ($5M per) while Warrick is below and got paid a below average salary ($4.5M per).
Now Rudy Gay, that guy got overpaid!!!
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 2, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that is ridiculous
Frye had one good season and couldn’t off the bench for NY or Portland. Warrick is just flat out terrible. They way overpaid for both guys.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 2, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I just came in here to say the exact same thing
Why not tell Warrick and Frye to fuck off and max out Stoudemire (not fully)? At least he’s proven to be a damn good player that can keep you competitive. I think GM’s enjoy making these sneaky “little” deals way too much. They outsmart themselves. Pay the talent and worry about the other shit later.
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Amir Johnson
got riddiculously over paid
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 2, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
But, a Nash-less Amare...
is not worth the max. And, Nash is not far away from retirement. So, yes, they are now in re-building mode. But, it’s better than being in mediocrity purgatory where you get no substantial draft picks and get eliminated in the 1st round every year.
Here's what I would say to Bosh
We are signing a PF today, if you want to play with DRose and LBJ this is your best chance. If not we will sign D. Lee and go after LBJ tomorrow.
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
by tyrus4prez on Jul 2, 2010 10:43 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
And then he says.
“Alright, good luck with all of that”
by Reacharounder on Jul 2, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
rec'd
WordUpThome: BUT THE "FUN FACTS" ON THE BACKS OF YOUR BASED BALL CARDS SAY THAT YOU ARE A RELEVANCE ENTHUSIAST
by thatballhitdeepwayback on Jul 2, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ultimatums are a bad idea with one of your top guys
you come out looking like the Hornets in their coaching search
by kthrapp on Jul 2, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
yea, maybe
I just think it’s important to have a PF signed before the LBJ meeting.
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
Ya, I wouldn't do this
I would try to go after his pride. Tell him we are willing to pay him max money to be “the man” in Chicago. He could be the main man on a championship contender.
by DRose01 on Jul 2, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like this pitch better
I got the skills to pay the bills and that's about it
by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 2, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Then we get LBJ and he becomes the third-best player on the team
"I'm going to enjoy an apple in bed." - Derrick Rose
I think he's still better than Rose
through the next 2 years.
After that, Rose should have passed him.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
Threats don't work very well.
A lovely story:
One day, long, long ago, there lived a woman who didn't whine, nag or bitch. That would be me....
But that was a long time ago and it was just that one day.
The end
That's correct Sue..
Instruct these “hot heads” that you catch more bees with honey…
Then it’s ok to keep private your intentions of not ’waiting forever" yet stressing the importance of time publicly..
"JustThrewUp."
"TheBullsAreSoSmallTime"
Good point on this Woj tweet
“If D-Wade wants to make this big play happen in Miami, he needs to stop taking meetings and commit to Heat.”
by YaoPau on Jul 2, 2010 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 11 recs
That's been my thinking, too.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Then why did he even propose
that ludicrous Chris Paul trade for table scraps?
by NerdVernacular on Jul 2, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I smell a column in the making...
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
(although I totally agree, sign with them already, wtf)
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Wade could end up in no man's land if he's not careful
Let’s say the following scenario plays out
- Bosh commits to the Bulls
- Amare signs with NY or NJ
- Lebron likes Rose/Bosh/Noah and joins Bulls
Then Wade is still a FA with Lee and Boozer as the best free agent available.
Maybe he's just waiting for Stoudemire to sign with the Heat.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
If LeBron and Bosh go to the Bulls, and Amare goes to NY/NJ, I could see Wade ...
… in NY/NJ, too.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Especially considering he's divorced
it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs
by BigforkBullsFan on Jul 2, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Word is that he likes Boozer
I saw reports Boozer was his and Riley’s second choice after Bosh.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
Bosh tweets!
Congrats to @IamAmirJohnson on his new deal! He worked very hard last season and he deserves every penny. Proud of you bro! #freeagency
in the middle of a meeting?!
hopefully we’re not boring him to the point of tweeting about Amir Johnson
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jul 2, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he's not even tweeting. Maybe it's just one of his "handlers" or assistants.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Chris Bosh has a scribe
I got the skills to pay the bills and that's about it
by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 2, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he's taking a shit and needed something to do
by Option27 on Jul 2, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
thanx for the image.
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 2, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
If he was taking a shit
he would’ve tweeted about it
I got the skills to pay the bills and that's about it
by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 2, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
"Turd came out reddish brown, Bulls frontrunners?"
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 2, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 11 recs
ugh.
WordUpThome: BUT THE "FUN FACTS" ON THE BACKS OF YOUR BASED BALL CARDS SAY THAT YOU ARE A RELEVANCE ENTHUSIAST
by thatballhitdeepwayback on Jul 2, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah and it's stupid
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
by J Theory on Jul 2, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tweet or read! That’s what I always say……You think best when your taking a shit………..
by I love football! on Jul 2, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
NBA Free Agency has become my least favorite free agency of all sports that I follow.
It’s too drawn out. It’s too glamorous. It’s too important. I hope it works out in the Bulls’ favor, but I can’t wait until it’s over.
Really? These two days are too drawn out for you?
I thought I had ADD. God.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Jul 2, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
yeah i've been getting zero work done.
thank god it’s a 3 day weekend so hopefully a lotta this stuff will be done by then.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
2 days? More like weeks since the Cavs left the playoffs.
There’s not much real information coming out and there’s way too much money in FA contracts. It’s pretty interesting to me that teams can pay roughly 30% of their cap figure to one player. I’m not sure why it bugs me so much, but it does. Maybe it’s because it’s such a big deal whereas in the NFL and MLB it is less world-changing.
Why have you been following it for so long?
Anything that can factually be reported started less than 36 hours ago.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Because I thought, until June 30, that there might be a midnight signing of interest.
Clearly that was a naive thought.
someone was listening to B&B yesterday
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
When Albert Pujols becomes a FA, we'll see how much that is shoved down our throats.
The reason this FA race is so exciting because it’s quite rare for several top 10 players, not to mention the best player in the whole game, are all available for the taking.
I got tired of the non-news too, now I just come here to insult people and make bad jokes.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 2, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Are you serious?
Note the thousands of comments on this blog over the past 2 days. NBA Free Agency is incredibly interesting. Teams plan for certain offseasons (like this one) years in advance.
by Reacharounder on Jul 2, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
And many of the followers of this site have been anticipating for this offseason for 2 years.
Crunching salary cap numbers, Adjusted plus minus, productivity of aging shooting guards. Maybe you’re on the wrong blog, brother.
by Reacharounder on Jul 2, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
No, I'm enjoying it as much as I can.
I just want it to end! Maybe Juiceboxjerry below was right. Since this one matters so much, I’m just impatient and misreading my own feelings.
i think you make sense
Hockey FA is fast and furious. There’s suspense, but it unfolds quickly.
Another thing that distinguishes the NBA FA period is that individual players are so damn important in basketball. While it’s fantastic to get the big names on your squad in football, hockey and baseball, it’s not as gut wrenching as in the NBA, where you’re limited to 3-5 players that could get your team over the “hump”.
Yeah. I'm not as into basketball as I am the other sports, I admit.
So it took me a while to realize why I was aggravated … it’s because it matters so much. If the Bulls get shafted/shaft themselves in this FA period, then it’s another few years of suckitude.
This is by far my favorite free agency period.
Well, other than the ones in Madden franchise mode.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
This is the first FA season in 10 years that has any kind of fanfare, so no.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 2, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
have you forgotten the outrage of 2009?
Ben Gordon.
WordUpThome: BUT THE "FUN FACTS" ON THE BACKS OF YOUR BASED BALL CARDS SAY THAT YOU ARE A RELEVANCE ENTHUSIAST
by thatballhitdeepwayback on Jul 2, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
flagged...
as stupid.
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
These threads are like playoff game threads for christ's sake
Every time a new rumor comes it’s like D Rose just hit a game winner
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
They're all drawn out
It’s just that this one is really interesting, hence you’re paying more attention to it and are being impatient because you want to see some results.
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I vote to ban football "Jake Liscow"
Any seconds?
by Reacharounder on Jul 2, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
banning isn’t a conversation, it’s my whim.
Honestly, if one actually does have a problem, flag or email me.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 2, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I was being facetious
Meant no offense
by Reacharounder on Jul 2, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I didn't think you were being serious.
I just think it’s kind of a quirky feature of the comments section sometimes.
Bucher just made a really good point on Sportscenter
How will Reinsdorf react when Bosh tries to videotape the interview? I can’t imagine that going over very well with the brainthrust.
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
Just say he's doing a documentary on the White Sox.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 2, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
haha
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
the White Sox
just had a reality show, I’m sure that doesn’t influence anything in the meeting.
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
Guillen apart of the presentation crew?
“You join, we be pooty goo.”
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 2, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait, Bucher also said that the Bulls are looking to move fast
by Option27 on Jul 2, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
UNTIL MONDAY?!?
Come on Bulls, don’t be stupid
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jul 2, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah
i was gonna say, i understand not waiting that long, but it sounds like lebron will probably make his decision pretty quickly.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
I think he already kind of knows
Just my opinion. It’s been how long since hes had to decide on one of these teams? None of these meetings are going to be the catalyst for his final decision. He’s already got two favorites, and will decide on one of them.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jul 2, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
i agree with that
the other point is that let’s say they lock in bosh – they can work the details. i remember the rashard lewis signing originally being a signing right out and then before the moratorium ended, they worked out a s&t. so if we get bosh to commit, even without a s&t, we go meet lebron and then just make shit work to sign both of em if they both want to sign with the bulls.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
The worst part is
Bucher said they want their decision quickly to act on guys like Bosh and Boozer.
Umm, I’m pretty sure those guys (especially Boozer) understands what’s at stake
Or did they???? muwhahahaha
No, I hope not at least……If they did, I say we go to Reinsdorfs house and start the lynching!
by I love football! on Jul 2, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
May not necessarily be bad
If they move fast on Bosh and then simply leave the ball in LeBron’s court, that could be a great move…not too many teams are gonna beat a Rose-Deng-Bosh-Noah team especially if we find a decent 2 guard
True. Say they get Bosh. Bam! One of the top 3 free agents.
If it clinches LeBron, fucking A. If not, they still have cap room for a SG and bench pieces. Who’s out there, though?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah, little problem with signing Bosh ASAP
whether it pitches LeBron or not.
Problem being no max room for LeBron unless they moved Deng simultaneously. But they could save a million or two pretty easy taking back worse players.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 2, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It could work, though. At least if they get a commitment.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Meh. Who is good in Cleveland?
I could see them taking Deng back in an S & T.
Williams – Gibson
Parker – West
Deng – Green
Jamison – Hickson
Verajao
isn’t a horrible team. It’s about as good as they can do. I’d feel sorry for Deng, though.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
It's not horrible, but it's not good
30-35 wins possibly. The downgrade from James to Deng is severe, you’re now expecting Mo Williams to become a good playmaker, which he’s never been.
It doesn’t matter for Cleveland. James leaving means basketball is over in that city for a while. Bulls fans felt some kind of obligation to keep renewing their season tickets because of the 6 titles and years of exciting play, I don’t see that kind of attachment in Cleveland.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 2, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
"severe" as in how?
I’m not sure it’s not a 25 win difference.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I think it might be a 25 loss difference....
At the very least a 20 loss difference…which would put the Cavs at .500.
The problem with that type of thinking is the East is going to be dramatically different this season if Amare and Boozer come over along with collections of talent Chicago and possibly Miami, New York, etc…its tough to project anything for next season at this point….
But, I think Lebron over Deng is 15-20 wins pretty easily (imagine him on the Bulls last season)
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
I can't see them doing a S/T at all
let alone to the Bulls.
Even if it made the most sense for them given the circumstances, probably best to just call LeBron’s bluff on taking less $, and it’s not like they forfeit that for Luol Deng of all players.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 2, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree...
Though if LeBron is committed to leaving, there aren’t a whole lot of good scenarios for Cleveland. But I can’t see them doing LeBron and their rivals a favor.
oh well
I guess I just can’t see LBJ playing a bluff on him. I don’t see him negotiating publicly, or going back on the decision. It’s $6 million over the five years. The way I see it, he weighs his options, he makes his decision. He’s leaving (or staying). Then, Cleveland can either do what’s best for their team or not, just to spite him.
If they say, “Nah, we know Deng would be good for us and we can’t do crap in getting free agents anyway, but we’re mad you’re leaving, so screw you, we’re going to gladly suck!!!”, I just can’t see that as any sort of positive. Especially, if he makes the decision on the 5th. He can always say, they’ll sign me first, so I’m leaving no matter what.
I don’t know the psyche of Cleveland fans, though.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Jul 2, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
There seems to be near universal agreement
that Cleveland will not do a sign and trade, especially in the Eastern Conference.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
Well, they can't actually sign anyone until July 8...
so “moving fast” on Bosh doesn’t necessarily create a cap space issue. If they get a commitment from Bosh (via sign-and-trade) then they pitch that to James when he comes.
Then, they sign James first and then do the sign-and-trade for Bosh.
by SouthernCub on Jul 2, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Slight edit...
when they go to visit James tomorrow.
Well, perhaps they're trying to improve their roster as further enticement to LeBron.
If they can get Bosh, or even Boozer or Lee, today, that augments their argument that their roster is the best one he can sign with.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
that was like a worst-case 'report'
Reinsdorf not liking Bosh’s cameras, expecting a quick decision from LeBron…
Bucher looks tired.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 2, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Ugh. Hopefully this only means they have something in place
But I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a Reinsdorf negotiating tactic. “Put the pressure on ‘em!!! They’ll Cave!!!” Ugh…
by Reacharounder on Jul 2, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Soon, he'll be looking like this:
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Please keep us updated if listening to it.
Can’t get the Score out here on the EC
by Reacharounder on Jul 2, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
670thescore.com
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"Don't nag, flag!"
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 2, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
or in South Dakota
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jul 2, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
unfortunately that means it'll be Spiegel
and he only sorta knows the intricacies of this. And Danny Mac is downright antagonistic to basketball.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 2, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I think he hates baketball and the fact that it takes attention away from hockey
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I wish he would go on B&B
unless they figure B&B have the basketball thing covered and mac and spiegs need the help. I do agree that they are both bad at talking basketball.
If we aren't careful, the leanness we now feel will be the starvation of those we serve.
by Chi 'Till I Die on Jul 2, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Oooh Yeah,
been some time since any FA fun any where near this year, even the slightly interested are damn sure interested and got a little to say about it. Buckle up and enjoy all the speculation of the “insiders”, hell, the outsiders too.
"most football players are temperamental, thats 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental" Doug Plank
So right now
It seems like our best case scenario is to get one superstar player. I don’t see a Deng S&T happening. It seems like we could get LeBron and some other really good pieces or Bosh and some really good pieces. The Raps don’t appear interested in what we have to offer for S&T, so that’s almost out of the question. Could we not sign him outright, or is he going to hold out for more cash?
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
Or Wade
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jul 2, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I've never seen such a mainstream technology work so poorly or intermittently
it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs
by BigforkBullsFan on Jul 2, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
That would make sense for now
Since there is normally a response after all his meetings
i had heard
it was an afternoon meeting as well, or at least that’s what i had remembered from maybe yesterday or whatever. and it would make sense since he hasn’t tweeted about it at all lol.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Bosh on the rumors
I don’t film my meetings. I am a professional. Having control of your own media is a distraction, but when other networks do it, it’s not?
Now,I heard it was Wade with the film crew.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 2, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps he's not filming the actual, substantive meetings.
Maybe it’s just the handshakes and arrivals, etc.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
That's no the issue, Chris.
I think it a good thing that people can (at least partially) control how they’re percieved in the mass media.
It’s that they perception you’re giving is of a spoiled, vain, vapid egomanic.
Can you imagine if Bosh’s tweets were actually insightful looks into this process? That might actually be…cool.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
I'm starting to get this 2016 Olympic feeling...
not that I cared losing out but it just got so played out and came to a thud.
Yeah, but that was when we had President Obama pulling for us.
This time we have Vice-President John Paxson so we’re in a better situa…oh wait….
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 2, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Boozer
Bulls should sign Boozer tonight before meeting LeBron tomorrow…
says who?
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jul 2, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
It's really not that bad of an idea
It will look much more appealing to LeBron rather than the “hope” of getting Bosh.
But like I mentioned earlier, I’m sure Boozer will sign regardless anyways if they strike out on Bosh, so they can just pitch that to LeBron
that is true
and without Bosh committing to MIAMI on paper yet I guess we could wait…but at least we should know after this meeting today with Bosh
its an idea
that I’m throwing out…Everything to me points Bosh to Miami with DWade…Why hasn’t DWade signed already is beyong me but these two guys are having a lot of fun on this FA tour with teams…I feel as though they know MIA is their team
ok I'm going to assume nothing major is happening today..
Saturday afternoon seems like a great time..
Ric Bucher on ESPN
It’s almost as if teams have settled in and said you know what, it’s really coming down, based on LeBron’s schedule, he’s either staying in cle or he’s going to Chi.
Link: http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5346360
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 2, 2010 11:52 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
while this seems to be true,
I officially hate Ric Bucher. for everything he’s done and doing.
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
He wants Lebron to stay in Cle.
The Bulls are the only choice for Lebron and I think it’s up to the Bulls to blow it.
Bosh 2010!!!!!
by illwill on Jul 2, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lol I don’t think the Nets got that memo, weren’t they saying they thought they were favorites just yesterday.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 2, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Of course they were the favorites yesterday
All they had to do was beat of the friggin Knicks
''I'm not in the gym every morning now for the Cy Young. I want what the boys did in 2005. I want that dog pile, that memory, that ring.''
by TheIronSchenk on Jul 2, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Jay-Z is his boy he had to say that.
It amazes me that not one person on ESPN will point out that he is meeting with us and the Cavs last. Doesn’t that mean something? Lebron is not going to take less to play with Wade that is just absurd.
Bosh 2010!!!!!
That some people are taking the possibility seriously is amusing. I mean people think he’s going to take a paycut just so he can hurt his legacy and always have 1 less ring than Wade.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 2, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Just to touch no this a little more...
I really think the order in which he is seeing the teams is the preferenece to where he wants to play. Cle being last out of respect to the Org. Everyone is saying, july 3rd is when he makes his choice and that so happens to be the day he meets with the bulls and cavs
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 2, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
A theory i like is the Cavs are last so he gives them the maximum time possible to pull off a miracle (eg. s+t for bosh), when they can’t tell him they’ve done that by the time the meeting is he can say “thanks for your time, it’s been fun but i’m on the next plane to Chicago”.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 2, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
It's good for us
If I was meetings all day I would remember and be focused in the first one but in the second one I would be tired and out of focus.
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
The theory is also similar ...
Is Cavs are last, so after hearing them again, he tells them"thank you for the years together, but I have decide to join the Chicago Bulls. I wanted to be the first person to tell you this. I would like to work out a sign and trade to maximize my earnings and my new team status, and I would hope you will accommodate this request"
Then James says, “Luol Deng isn’t a LBJ but it is perceived by some as nice compliment player and maybe you can then turn around and use him in a sign and trade to acquire another FA on the market.”
Lastly “Best wishes and our time spent together has truly been a noteworthy adventure”
"JustThrewUp."
"TheBullsAreSoSmallTime"
the "process" org
pushing for a deadline, when lebron has let it be known he plans to decide on monday?
please! what does he have to hear from cleveland at this point anyway? byron scott ftw?this just gives lebron an easy “out” for the final meeting.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
aarrg.
If it’s between Chi-Cle, I think we take him. The East is getting much, much tougher next season, and the Cavs will be even older. All they can do is appeal to emotion. And it’s not a matter of Lebron being loyal to the cavs – hell no. James has made that team worth watching, in fact, he’s the only reason they’ve been worth watching. If anything, the Cavs owe Lebron.
The appeal to emotion is going to be this: we neeeeeed you. We need you so bad, Lebron. And after looking at the legit organizations out there, at the end of the day…adios.
Or so I hope.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
"All they can do is appeal to emotion."
I think this is key.
That is virtually all the leverage Cleveland has, at this point. Across all other axes, Chicago is the most sensible choice; outside of Chicago and Cleveland, no other destinations – in my opinion – are genuinely worth LeBron’s consideration.
Yea Bosh isn't in any meetings....
His latest twitter update said he was sitting on the couch watching the free agent news, so I’m guessing it is this afternoon
This Twitter overload shit is rocking my world in a way I never thought it could.
FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 11:57 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Goddamn
#failwahle
''I'm not in the gym every morning now for the Cy Young. I want what the boys did in 2005. I want that dog pile, that memory, that ring.''
by TheIronSchenk on Jul 2, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we can blame this on Bosh...
I’ll bet people signed up with Twitter accounts just to follow hiw tweets…lol
U need a twitter account to follow his tweets?
it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs
by BigforkBullsFan on Jul 2, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
No, but I think it gives you the benefit of notifications.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 2, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
been using
tweetree, which is a web twitter client my bf’s company made. i don’t actually use twitter though but been reading a few people’s pages during the process lol.
it’s been working, though it’s had some issues off and on.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
isn't twitter
a web twitter client?
There are really only two plays: Romeo and Juliet, and put the darn ball in the basket.
-- Abe Lemons
yeah
but if people were complaining about the fail whale, well i was suggesting something that has been at least kinda working for me a bit, though sometimes when i refresh it produces an error.
also i was making sure to distinguish it from a desktop client.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
How much money do you think Shannon Brown is going to take??
I wasn’t happy when the Bulls let him go last year, and he definately showed promise in L.A….
The dude was born to catch alley-oops
but that’s about it.
by Stacey_Is_King on Jul 2, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
great game changer with those tho
the Lakers fed off that shyt crazy this year
Deng might be your cup of tea..me personally? I don't like pieces of sh*t in my tea.
Yeah
F LeBron, we need more guys who can finish alley-oops. Gamechangers!
Oh, and sick crossovers too. Oh, and sick no look passes. Get me some of those guys. Do you think we can get Sabonis and Hardaway out of retirement?
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Its true
I watched him play in high school, I know he has game other than the alley-oops…. He is not great at anything but doesn’t really lack anything big in his game.. decent defender, decent shooter, great dunker…. lol
Yeah dude
maybe we can snag Mateen Cleaves (sic?) too, he played awesome at MSU.
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And Mo Pete(not as bad
as Cleaves), he has been a total bust.
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 2, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't really think he's a decent defender, he played terrible defense on Ray Allen
and his shooting is steaky, plus he’s taking shot selection lessons from Kobe
by Stacey_Is_King on Jul 2, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
he's just a 3rd string PG tho
2nd option is like pushing it
Deng might be your cup of tea..me personally? I don't like pieces of sh*t in my tea.
Rose is a better dunker than Shannon Brown, so no need to waste money on him.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 2, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
i dont want shannon brown
just stating that his alley-oops can be a factor, even if its a minor factor per se
Deng might be your cup of tea..me personally? I don't like pieces of sh*t in my tea.
Good point
I remember reading that alley-oops can increase a player’s winshare by 4-5 games
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
*standing ovation*
Deng might be your cup of tea..me personally? I don't like pieces of sh*t in my tea.
by Belize on Jul 2, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
ESPN insider writes about the Bulls pitch to LeBron...
As the Bulls’ meeting with LeBron approaches on Saturday, K.C. Johnson of the Chicago Tribune adds a little more detail on their pitch Friday.
“Sources said the Bulls are considering bringing local business leaders from Fortune 500 companies to the meeting to appeal to James’ business sense,” he wrote. “At the very least, ideas on how to market James globally via local businesses will be pitched. But the biggest sales points — to James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh — center on basketball, the city, the Bulls’ rich history and worldwide brand recognition and a ready-to-win core featuring Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah.”
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 2, 2010 12:11 PM CDT reply actions
i hope the pitch ends with
“Did you get the memo?”
by M 80 on Jul 2, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love that "worldwide brand recognition" point.
Helps compete against Prokhorov’s “global icon” shiz. Who knows about the Nets outside of stateside NBA fans and (now) some few people in Russia?
Ok so when is Bosh meeting?
Woj is saying he just spoke to David Lee’s agent a half hour ago as he was walking into the Bulls meeting
If we don't get Bosh, I hope we sign that guy
he gives us more options offensively than anyone else.
by Stacey_Is_King on Jul 2, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
woj on the score (paraphrased, not much new)
“no one really thinks lebron will go and share that stage with dwyane wade in miami…I still believe that it will be Chicago or he stays in Cleveland and the wild card of course, is the Nets”
“New York is the most likely to be shut out and many teams will panic, leading to bloated salaries”
and he likes lee with joakim but thinks Boozer will complement Joakim more than lee
"Pietrus is a Guadeloupan God." - TheNole9Yards
"I don't want a massage I want a FACIAL!"
--stay strong, Stacey King.
Woj talking some sense, Miami was never realistic, Chicago is the logical favorite.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 2, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
disagree about boozer
lee>>>booz
especially with rose and lebron
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
I think Boozer can slow an offense down a lot, since he is a low-post guy
But it really depends what kind of team will work best with this personnel
Latest from Woj
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AqBzvguDtHCpfJ64czKTAGW8vLYF?slug=ys-freeagentbuzz070210
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Whoa
if this meeting goes until the offseason ends I’m guessing the Heat win?
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously
I can’t believe the length of the meetings is being reported. lol
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Dance off
for LeBron’s services, Depression style!
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hmm
The meetings with the Nets and Knicks were a lot shorter. That tells me that the Heat might be a more serious suitor.
by RM on Jul 2, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy Christ
Or that Riley talks slower?
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sure
Or that he just has more to say.
Just speculating … that’s part of the fun of following this. The speculation and anticipation. :)
by RM on Jul 2, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Miami has the harder sell job, so they'd have to say more to have a chance.
I agree with your speculation.
Alonzo started a fight and has Lebron in a choke hold
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
That, or Riley's twisting himself into knots trying to get LeBron to buy the superteam idea.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Either that or.....
Maybe Lebron is consoling them as they weep at the fact that he’s not coming…
Yeah, I doubt that Lebron would end the meeting.
They take what time they want, and he’ll think about it.
Who is PDcasinsider?
Is there any reason to believe this source?
it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs
by BigforkBullsFan on Jul 2, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Brian Windhorst, he writes for a Cleveland paper, he’s legit, he knows what he’s talking about.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 2, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
He's reliable
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
I think Riley's is pulling the "commit" or its ovah.
“We got Wade and Bosh, and can add anyone we please. We’d rather it be you. However….”
Alternatively: here are a dozen of Miami’s finest prostitutes and a hod full of cocaine.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Jul 2, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
LOL. LeBron the true sportsman will ride the white horse to South Beach.
by LeBenny da Bull on Jul 2, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd love it if LeBron went Tony Montana on Riley.
“Hey, Pat, you a piece of chit.”
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Riley's got WWW tied up in the shower with a chainsaw pointed @ his chest
"I'm going to enjoy an apple in bed." - Derrick Rose
by E-Grizzle on Jul 2, 2010 1:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
they don't have Bosh
and the figures say it couldn’t happen even if they got rid of Beasley
Maybe part of their party was Dick Cheney, whose role is to waterboard Lebron until he signs. And the idea of going to Miami is so unappealing he’s gotten through 2 hours of waterboarding without signing.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 2, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
OK question
I don’t feel like looking through all the threads…so:
I heard that Bosh is meeting teams in Chicago. Why’s that?
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 2, 2010 12:27 PM CDT reply actions
Oh ok
Thanks! Though…shouldn’t the agent be following him? oh well
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 2, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
his agent is chicago based i think
"Pietrus is a Guadeloupan God." - TheNole9Yards
"I don't want a massage I want a FACIAL!"
--stay strong, Stacey King.
thats where his agent is stationed
''I'm not in the gym every morning now for the Cy Young. I want what the boys did in 2005. I want that dog pile, that memory, that ring.''
by TheIronSchenk on Jul 2, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
WojYahooNBA
Knicks and Amar’e Stoudemire are making progress on 5 year, max contract, sources say. Framework of deal in place, talks continuing today.
For some reason I feel like its terrible for us
by Scottie's Nose on Jul 2, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Our front office wasn't really high on Amar'e anyways.
Does the Knicks overpaying for a player with knee issues = bad for us? Idk.
have the Bulls even tried to talk to him?
by The90sBullsRevival on Jul 2, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
yea i think lee would be a better team player
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 2, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, now that's just foolish.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
oops, thought you said you'd rather have lee THAN bosh
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
its scheduled for tuesday
"Pietrus is a Guadeloupan God." - TheNole9Yards
"I don't want a massage I want a FACIAL!"
--stay strong, Stacey King.
Not yet. Don't think we will.
No defense, bad rebounding, bad attitutude, no post game. He is the anti-Thibodeau power forward. A worse fit than Lee or Boozer if you put any credence into what Thibs said – and I do.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
You know...
I actually think Amare would be pretty good. Thibs can whip him into shape defensively, and in the meantime, we pair an uber-athletic, offensively minded pf in amare with the defensive, hustling, rebounding effort guy in Noah
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 2, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
It's his motivation to play defense, not his know-how.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
he has it
amare was the best pf choice, except for the money, a little (1+yr) bit older, and the microfracture factor.
back with d’antoni, “mr accountability”, he probably won’t show it, however. d’antoni himself suggested gentry did a better job coaching up amare.
knicks hoping amare signed will draw another one of the free agents, ya think?
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
fine, he's motivated. he just sucks then.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I've always like Amare
But I agree that his is not the best fit for this team going forward, regardless of the other free-agent acquired (plus his maximum-salary is non-trivially higher).
I’m really warming up to David Lee at PF if we can lock down LeBron, or even Wade, as unlikely as that may be.
I'm taking this as bad news for us in that
it makes the Amare to Mia rumors untrue, thereby increasing chances of Bosh heading to Mia. Not good.
by Reacharounder on Jul 2, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Epic bad news
''I'm not in the gym every morning now for the Cy Young. I want what the boys did in 2005. I want that dog pile, that memory, that ring.''
by TheIronSchenk on Jul 2, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
both of them are lacking in D
There are really only two plays: Romeo and Juliet, and put the darn ball in the basket.
-- Abe Lemons
Lee seems more marketable
Boozer just looks like he’s kind of an ass.
by birdlandkustl on Jul 2, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Boozer's playoff averages for last year:
20/13/3 on 53% shooting. I’d say he could help.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
He struggled.
14/8. But let’s be real. Everyone struggles against the Lakers. The point of Boozer is this – at some point you must get better. If you can’t get the best (bosh), you get better (boozer). And who in the east would be able to stifle them. An interior of Noah/Asik and Boozer/Gibson would be among the best in the East.
Perfect? No. But we’ve got to arm Derrick Rose with the best weapons we can, even if they’re not perfect.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Jul 2, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
That is two PF who got one year deals in '09...
That have now signed longterm in 2010…Gooden and Warrick…former Bulls too. I expect another when David Lee signs…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Boozer kinda sorta almost counts
not really though.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Does David Lee have any post game?
I’ve always pictured him as a guy who gets his points off rebounds. Can we throw it to him in the point and count on him scoring?
by The90sBullsRevival on Jul 2, 2010 12:32 PM CDT reply actions
A little bit
He’s spent the offseason working on his jumpshot and range. I believe he didn’t hit a single 3 last year.
by NerdVernacular on Jul 2, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
apparently, he's taking 500 a day this summer.
most his points do come off of rebounds and cutting to the hoop and broken plays, but he’s got a little post and a little jump shot, too.
He’s really good.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
he also has an extremely good handle for his size
The Knicks ran their entire offense through him at times.
"It’s ideal if your hobby and your living can merge. But you are not going to stop your hobby if you can’t make money out of it. Your hobby is all about trading time for enjoyment. My job is what I do. My hobby is who I am." -Tango
by notsellingjeans on Jul 2, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
go to my awesome post...d
…here, and check out his video. Apparently, Noah’s not the only center that can do that.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
He's a great passer too
which makes it even easier to run things through him.
Throw it to him in the high post and he’s a great threat to either shoot, drive or pass to a cutter.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
Best Case Worst Scenario
Been thinking about what happens if we whiff on Lebron and Bosh (and Wade), what’s the best case but still realistic scenario that leaves us in good position and no one else in dominant one?
Lebron feels guilty, stays with Cavs
Bosh goes to Miami with Wade
- Bulls trade 2cd round pick, use cap space to absorb Michael Beasley, clearing roster-filling cap space (Haslem, etc) for Heat
Amare signs with Knicks
Boozer signs with Nets
Celtics sign Allen, Pierce; Mavs sign Dirk
Bulls sign David Lee, Ronnie Brewer, JJ Reddick to fair contracts
No team is stacked.
Bulls are young — Deng is oldest player in top 8 — balanced, not defensively strong but interesting offensively with scoring off the bench, they keep Hornets draft pick, have two of the best raw talents under 22 in Rose/Beasley and have flexibility to plug a star into roster when they get the chance …what’s the difference between the Bulls at that point and OKC, for instance (Durant better than Rose, but not by tons):
Rose
Brewer
Deng
Lee
Noah
-
Beasley
Reddick
Taj
No one wants to whiff on the big three, but in scenario above no team where no team scores big I still like our future.
Not a bad point, I guess
It would just be monumentally disappointing. Plus, I think Mia would eventually build the pieces to dominate the east for several years. I don’t ever seeing that team making it to the Finals.
by Reacharounder on Jul 2, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dont know if Reddick fits.
Now J.J. Redick on the other hand, he might have a shot haha
by Bulls Fan 4 Life on Jul 2, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
The Bulls get better
Everyone else basically stays the same. I think that’s what matters. We could contend for a title in 2 years with a few more trades. But we will be at the top of the East.
by LeBenny da Bull on Jul 2, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm just ready for the dominoes to start falling...today we should know where PFs will go
If bosh says Miami, Bulls will likely make offer to boozer, amare will go to NY, Lee maybe go to the Nets. Even if the bulls get Boozer instead of bosh how can lebron not look at a lineup of Rose, Deng, Boozer, Noah, Taj over Wade, Bosh + nobody
And we keep hearing that LeBron isn't necessarily "tied" to Bosh.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok I have cooled on the Nets.. I'm thinking..
It’s Cleveland and Chicago. If James stays in Cleveland I think Wade will join the Bulls. If James picks the Bulls then Wade goes back to Miami. Just killing some time.
by SoulEater7 on Jul 2, 2010 12:43 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
nah
if bosh goes to miami, wade will stay
by K_yle33 on Jul 2, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I believe though that Wade and Bosh are waiting for LeBron to pick.
Once he picks between Cle and the Bulls then they will choose their spots.
So ... if Amare goes to NYC, and Bosh goes to the Bulls, what are the odds ...
… Wade splits Miami and heads to NYC?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 12:43 PM CDT reply actions
I can only see that if LeBron tells the Bulls no.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
that would be very very exciting
if that happened they should just have them play 82 games against each other
Nah. That Bulls team would destroy That Knicks team
by Reacharounder on Jul 2, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
DE-FENSE!
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
for a year or two
then in two or three eyars, the bulls would be much, much better
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Jul 2, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
if bulls get (boozer or bosh) and lebron
does luol deng become a backup sf or does he move to sg.
or do luol deng and lebron just flip back and forth between sf and sg
How come nobody has talked about LeBron and Wade in Chicago..
just tryin to stir the pot a little.. wouldn’t happen.. lol
KCJHoop
If Amare deal with Knix happens, can’t see LBJ going there. No chance LBJ, Stoudemire and that roster wins title.
I'm emailing with my Knicks fan buddy, and he is convinced the Knicks will end up getting Arenas, too.
He’s not in the best of moods today.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, Mayor Bloomberg doesn't take too kindly to guys packing heat!
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not trying to jinx anything, but if we signed Bron + Bosh, would we have one of the greatest Starting Lineups of the Modern Era?
Rose (consensus top 4 pg of future)
Bron (greatest player statistically since Jordan)
Deng (Above Average)
Bosh (Arguably best PF in league)
Noah (Fringe All Star)
That’s more talent then 80s Celtics, right? 90s Bulls? 80s Lakers? 80s Sixers? 00s Lakers? It’s gotta be up there with all of those teams.
False
The Raptors will not take Deng.
If it is a sign and trade for Bosh, it will be Gibson and whomever else the Raptors desire.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 2, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Except for Noah and Rose...
Well, I do wonder if Bulls mgmt knows they got Bosh & LBJ, but need to trade Noah to make that happen, would they? I’m guessing they would, but losing Noah would make me sad (but it’d be worth it).
The Raptors can say they won't take Deng all they want.
I’ll only believe it when push comes to shove.
No reason for them to lie
They have said they will do a sign and trade, but they don’t want Deng as a piece. It makes perfect sense because they already have a SF locked up for 4 years to a big contract. There was never any reason to believe they would want Deng if you just look at their roster.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
The problem with that logic is that it assumes the Raptors have much leverage at all.
Which they don’t. If Bosh says that he wants to go to the Bulls so work out a S&T or else I’m going somewhere else and you get nothing, I’m very doubtful that the Raptors are going to turn down what we’re offering. They would be dumb to let Bosh go for nothing when he’s so willing to help them get something. They may say “we don’t want Deng” now because he’s not their ideal situation and they’re trying to exert what little influence they have. But when push comes to shove, and Bosh makes his decision to leave, they’ll have to make a decision whether they want any return at all vs. nothing in return. At the very least, Deng would be an asset they could try to trade down the road. We would probably also throw in JJ and maybe some picks. They would be dumb to turn it down. As we’ve seen with the dumb-ass deals that have been made the past two days, his contract isn’t toxic at all. AND he’s better than Turkoglu, so if they care about the quality of their team at all, they’d jump at the upgrade.
What if LBJ is signed, but TOR won't trade?
Does Bosh really go to the Nets for $3M/year? I think not.
No
He won’t go for 3m a year. You’re right!
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sure if you thought I meant $3M/ year total
I mean that he can probably get 75% of his max contract to sign outright with the Bulls, or 100% with nets. If it were me, the choice would be easy.
i don't think its as easy for these guys to turn down money
“to win championships” as we and some think it is
This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training
by Jack M on Jul 2, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right
Pippo has six rings and no money. I’d rather by Jim McIlvane.
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
You're right
it is easy. If his boy LeBron signs with the Nets it’s a slam dunk.
Bosh doesn’t make 43m a year and rising on endorsements. A salary increase is kinda important to him. It’s why he’s the one that it seems like there is no chance he will sign a max deal without a S&T.
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
If Lebron comes here
then trading Deng for cap space shouldn’t be that hard. The Clippers were said to be willing to take him for a second rounder. It makes sense for the Bulls to hold off on dealing their SF of the present until they lock up their SF of the future.
If the move Deng, they have plenty of money to give max contracts to both plus sign a SG.
DEJESUS!!!
Finally
Brian Windhorst PDcavsinsider
Heat just leaving, talking with Clippers officials in hallway as they come in.
Hopefully they're saying: "Man, don't even bother. This guy's going to the Bulls."
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Lol, i forgot the Clippers were involved.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 2, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Of any team that gets a visit
the Clippers obviously have the toughest pitch, which is strange because LA is easy to pitch and they actually have a reasonable basketball team.
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha!
PDcavsinsider
Clippers exec Andy Roesner & GM Neil Olshey were Clippers entire delegation. Roesner joked with Heat that they’d be brief.
At least they're honest with it, unlike the Knicks
who lied to Lebron to save some face.
Why are they even wasting their time?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
He's not even the GM
he’s the “interim” GM, which is great when you’re trying to sell a guy on the next 6 years.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
Of course not
PDcavsinsider
Clippers joked with Heat about going over their time. Asked if Riley would be fined for it.
Add the 45 minutes Riley spent with Rose last night
PDcavsinsider
Heat had no comment, meeting lasted nearly 3 hours with lunch. They were in building for nearly 4 hours.
The real clue would be to find out what they had for lunch.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The owner won't even make the trip
PDcavsinsider
No Donald Sterling for Clips. But then again, that may be a good thing for their pitch.
Obviously
sending Donald Sterling into a room with black people is a bad idea.
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
lol
Brian W. is right, not have him there is probably better for their pitch.
What a terrible organization…
Alonzo swings at one of them; girl style
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
Bosh tweet
I’m up and at ‘em! My shirt is starched and I’m ready for more business. NY Knicks are next
Does this mean we are one of the last teams to give our presentation to Bosh? That would certainly be a good thing
by vasko on Jul 2, 2010 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I still don't think it's clear whether or not the Bulls have already gone.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 2, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt the Bulls have made their full pitch to him yet
There would have been more info available if the Bulls had already had their meeting with him, not just the brief talk
What i can’t believe is Lebron wore a backpack as he went into the meeting, I would have thought he had people to carry things for him.
and a t shirt, for the guy who wants to be a "business man"
hopefully this means he’s not taking these meetings seriously
by The90sBullsRevival on Jul 2, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
well no cuz he doesn't want to let the secret contents of whats in the bag out yet...
he’s carrying it to every meeting, and when his meeting for the bulls happens he will finally realease it’s contents… a red #6 windy city jersey
What about
Boozer or Lee and Bron? That way they could keep Johnson, Gibson, and Deng. They wouldn’t be as good at the starting five, but talk about having some depth.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
this blog doesn't believe in depth.
by SoulEater7 on Jul 2, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Starting 5 is more important, as shown in this year's playoffs
by Stacey_Is_King on Jul 2, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'd prefer Lee + depth + Bron over Bosh + Bron + no depth
but that’s because I think Lee is overrated and Bosh is underrated. If we get just Bron I’d be happy with this off-season… a PF would just be icing on the cake.
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
If it comes down to Lee/Deng/Lebron
or Bosh/Lebron, I’d probably go with the former. If they can somehow keep Deng and also get Bosh and Lebron, that would obviously be the ideal choice.
by dakoose on Jul 2, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Full Woj story on Knicks/Amare:
Amar’e Stoudemire(notes) and the New York Knicks are making progress in talks on a five-year, $100 million max contract and a deal could be completed as soon as Friday, league sources told Y! Sports.
The framework of the deal, which would give Stoudemire a $17.2 million starting salary next season, is in place and the two sides are expected to talk again soon, sources said. Stoudemire is expected to travel to New York on Saturday.
The Knicks and Stoudemire aren’t each other’s first choices, but Stoudemire wanted a fifth year guaranteed and the Knicks needed to have something to show for years of losing and working to clear cap space.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
Hahahahahahhahaha
Hahahahahahaha
This is like going to prom with your cousin!
by DRose01 on Jul 2, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
BAHAHAHAHA, SUCK IT WALSH!!!!
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Amare wanted Miami and NY wanted Lebron…Wade…Bosh…JJ. But they’re still going to give him a 100 million dollars, good for him, laughable for them.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 2, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
That's it, I think this shit has officially driven me insane.
I’m way more addicted to these rumors than I ever though I would be. I’m gonna need to take classes to learn how to properly integrate myself back into society
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
im getting no work done till this over
all i do is check here and twitter, back and forth
by The90sBullsRevival on Jul 2, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Same. And i’m doing this like eating/drinking/toilet right after some news breaks because i presume 2 things won’t happen near each other.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 2, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Isola tweet
Stunning that Knicks could be on verge of signing Stoudemire to $100 million contract. Always heard D’Antoni didn’t want any part of him
Gotta agree and felt the same. D’Antoni has coached both Amare and Lee, Amare costs more, and they’re letting Lee walk. Interesting, and I have to see it as a knock on Lee, even if NY fans are demanding a big name.
It makes no sense what they're doing, honestly.
by Stacey_Is_King on Jul 2, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's how it makes sense
This is a PR move, not a basketball move. Knicks fans have been promised LeBron for years, and have put up with losing for a while in order to get LeBron.
The Knicks know they won’t get LeBron, so they decided to get the biggest “name” they could get. Amare’s reputation is much greater than his ability at this point, even though he’s a very good player obviously. He’s a bigger name than Lee.
by RM on Jul 2, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
IMO Lee is a far better option at this point, but the Knicks wanted a big name to make their fans happy, instead of sticking with the one guy on their roster who could be a real talent.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 2, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's see what would you do
You talk to Bosh, he says he is in. If you say you are in right now.
Are you in or do you wait for LeBron?
I've got to be honest.
Based on those pics with Bosh / D-Wade, I feel like we’ll need LBJ before Bosh.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 2, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
friends would never sign for different teams. It’s why Magic and Isaiah played for the same team for so many years.
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
You saw friends in that picture?
Could have just as easily been two business partners. Just depends on how you see the situation.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 2, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
This Amare signing is great for us on two levels:
1) It means they’re probably not getting Lebron
2) Even if they did get Lebron, their team would still be ripe for a D Rose ass whooping
hahahahahahaha… KNICKS….. HAHAHHAHAHAHAH
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 1:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
That, and if Bosh goes to Miami and Amare goes to New York
Then where else is there for Lee (and Boozer)? The Nets have Favors, the Celtics have Garnett, the Clippers have Griffin, the Kings have Landry. Come onnnnnn Bulls
Boozer/Lee
We’ll have no problem getting one of those two if we offer the max. Period.
by RM on Jul 2, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
neither is worth max
not even close
There are really only two plays: Romeo and Juliet, and put the darn ball in the basket.
-- Abe Lemons
True
They worth closer to $10-11 mil.
However, in this market, they’ll get the max or close.
by RM on Jul 2, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Lee's max is actually
only around 12 million I think. Which is why we could get Lebron + Lee without trading away anything. Which is why I kinda want that to happen.
Lee + Bron + Bulls vs Wade + Bosh + Heat would be a cool rivalry for years. that I think we’d dominate for years.
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
by dantheman3k on Jul 2, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lee + James + Deng...
…is, in my mind, actually a pretty close second to getting Bosh + James and having to trade away Deng.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Jul 2, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hell yeah
i said days ago that lebron + lee is worthy of takin it out and waving it in the street.
by umidontknow on Jul 2, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
They're both
Better than Rudy Gay and better than Luol Deng (well Boozer is at least, Lee is a stat padder, Boozer has real post game, which is a premium).
I think Boozer’s worth a $14-15M mark, Lee $12M/yr similar to Deng and I think we’re he’s at.
7/1/2010: D. Wade comes back home
Boozer isn't better going forward than Deng, that's for sure.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
There were sign & trade rumors for Boozer going to Orlando yesterday. It may have been speculation, as it was downplayed by an agent today.
Favors is raw anyway, NJ could still sign a PF.
Its all speculation. When it comes down to it, we’ll all see what actually matters to these guys. If Lebron actually cares about winning a championship, he’ll go to Chicago or stay in Cleveland. All these guys have the extra $30 mill dangling in front of their faces to stay, and if they leave their teams they leave the money on the table, not something their willing to do. Everyone is looking at this scenario and that to pass the time, but stop fooling yourselves. These guys want the money.
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championships for lebron mean even more endorsement money
as amazing as that possibility is…
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
And you have too many fingers, jalen rose. Stop twitting bullshzt
we were born with TWO ears and ONE mouth for a reason; well that’s what I’ve always been told! True indeed!
They should find some three-eared freaks
to be television commentators.
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
KevinGArmstrong tweet
Is Wade seriously giving thought to leaving Miami or just more bullshit to attract attention?
Wade upon leaving Knicks meeting: " it was a real good meeting. I will say, ’I’m intrigued."
Wade pretty much said the same after the Bulls meeting yesterday
A little from column A, a little from column B, I suppose.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
He might be saying this to put pressure on Riley to get Bosh, especially since Amare ...
… is looking like he’s going to NYC.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
You think Riley isn't giving 100% now?
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
He's saying that
because every meeting IS good. They’re offering tons of money, a great city, and more salary cap room to sign more guys. Every team involved should be intriguing to all of the free agents, even the NYK.
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree that every meeting should be intriguing due to all the money on the table
but does this not hurt the Heat’s chances if Wade is becoming more interested in other teams, rather than helping attract guys to Miami
It's a good point.
If anything, Wade should be apart of the meetings with the Heat since he’s their main selling point and, up to now, their biggest seller.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 2, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
For a long time I thought Wade to Miami was less of a done deal than people thought, but now I’m thinking i was right. The guy would be helping his team a whole lot if he committed to them, they’d have the 4 pf’s falling over themselves to go there. But as of now the Heat are a team with virtually no roster, a situation Wade can change with a flick of the pen, but he refuses to. It’s interesting.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 2, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
one might even say...
“intriguing”
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Imagine you are Wade...
If LeBron and Bosh go to Chicago, you can play with either
A. Gallinari, Amare, Curry in NY
B. Chalmers, Beasley, either Boozer or Lee, Haslem maybe?
C. Harris, Lopez, Favors + a big FA in NJ?
With Amare gone, Miami really needs Bosh to be a good destination for Wade. He can do better elsewhere.
Of those 3 I think NJ would be the obvious choice. Or at least the only one of the 3 a chance to get him back to the finals eventually and a shot at the ring. Miami won’t and NY definitely won’t, NJ is the only one with potential.
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 2, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Clippers?
Davis-Wade—Griffin-Kaman with eric Gordon the 6th man and a filler SF….or Rasual Butler (I think they have Butler…
7/1/2010: D. Wade comes back home
News
Chad Ford, ESPN Insider: Hold on one second … we have a deal. Give me a second to send to ESPN.com and then I’ll talk about it here.
Bulls fan since 1986.
What deal???
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Here you go
Framework of deal.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
This supossed was a reply to swishh
Bulls fan since 1986.
by Dominicanbull on Jul 2, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
bah
chadfordinsider
Breaking News: Bucks-Salmons finally agree on deal. 5 years, $39 million, but last year only partial guaranteed. Link coming …
Bulls fan since 1986.
Yeah, just saw that.
zzzzzzzz
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Fuck, having problems with the reply button
Bulls fan since 1986.
by Dominicanbull on Jul 2, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
what a tease
"Pietrus is a Guadeloupan God." - TheNole9Yards
"I don't want a massage I want a FACIAL!"
--stay strong, Stacey King.
John Salmons
has just been signed 39 million 5 year contract
Donald Sterling didn't show up for the Clippers LeBron meeting
what an idiot. source here.
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=16647
In a bold move, the Chicago Bulls are threatening to pull their offer off of the table if James doesn’t make a decision by Saturday, sources close to the situation tell HOOPSWORLD.
Who the hell is HOOPSWORLD
Sorry, that is hard to believe.
by RM on Jul 2, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't this Poopsworld, though?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
You mean in a fucking retrded move, WHAT THE FUCK???
Oh wait, nevermind, it’s Hoopsworld
At this moment my life is one continuous Twitter feed.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
According to KC
KCJHoop
Haven’t heard that. And would find that really dumb. RT @gocubs2118: @KCJHoop Any truth that Bulls have put a Saturday deadline on LeBron?
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by Dominicanbull on Jul 2, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I seriously doubt this. I bet they're just expecting LeBron to make a decision Saturday.
You know, like everybody else on the planet.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
it doesnt make sense
since they won’t even make a formal offer (if they even make one) until saturday. they’re not going to tell him take it or leave it in less than 24 hrs.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
If that's true, it may turn off LeBron, but it makes the Bulls actually lool like a respectbale franchise.
All the other teams that came to meet with him so far probably got on their hands and knees and offered to do who-knows-what to land him. The Bulls have looked professional this entire time and to a businessman like Lebron that might be a turn-on, not a turn-off.
Maybe Bosh wants the full max
and told the Bulls he will sign if they give it to him OR Wade seems to want to sign with Chicago….
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
Hmmm...
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Bosh meeting with Bulls this evening. RT @mattymarconi: @KCJHoop, wasn’t Bosh meeting with Bulls again @ UC this morning?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 1:28 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Not a bad sign
I’d be happy to go last. Usually that’s a good spot to be in business.
Its all speculation. When it comes down to it, we’ll all see what actually matters to these guys. If Lebron actually cares about winning a championship, he’ll go to Chicago or stay in Cleveland. All these guys have the extra $30 mill dangling in front of their faces to stay, and if they leave their teams they leave the money on the table, not something their willing to do. Everyone is looking at this scenario and that to pass the time, but stop fooling yourselves. These guys want the money.
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An interesting Q&A with Chad Ford:
Chad, Bulls gonna be the FA losers? Knicks get Amare. Heat get Bosh. LBJ to Cavs. Bulls get ?
Friday July 2, 2010 2:28 Frank
2:30 Chad Ford, ESPN Insider: If it plays out that way … yes and no. Bulls are the only team that didn’t gut their roster to get LeBron. They still have a lot of talent and can use their space to facilitate trades to shore up their core. It’s much less of a disaster for the Bulls if they strike out. Ditto for the Nets. But, for the Cavs, Knicks or Heat, it would be Armageddon.
Friday July 2, 2010 2:30 Chad Ford, ESPN Insider
that only means we won't suck as NY
but we sitll are not going to win anything
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 2, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Right
His point is that our cap room will still be an asset down the road.
We just have to hope that our management doesn’t panic and waste all the cap room on mediocre guys. I don’t think they will.
by RM on Jul 2, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
has joe johnson officially taken that $119mil from atl yet?
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
I can't believe its dangling out there still
I know that if he wants to win perhaps he can go elsewhere, but come on that’s a TON of money for a guy who’s not really worth it. If he leaves that says a ton about his character if you ask me.
And who’s to say the Hawks are done getting better.
New coach plus Josh Smith, Al Horford, Crawford, and possibly CHildress and hey Crawford expires next yr coming off his best year ever, and Josh Smith’s upside still hasn’t fully been reached….
So why JJ would leave for Chicago, Nets, Knicks or Heat is beyond me….esp with $119M on the table.
7/1/2010: D. Wade comes back home
Question of the day:
Why aren’t “Sources” called “snitches”?
by Dils on Jul 2, 2010 1:34 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Snitch is kind of pejorative
Why woud you use something that doesn’t exist?
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 2, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Being a snitch would imply being an insider with factual information.
The difference, as it seems to be, is that most sources are lacking the “factual” part thus far.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 2, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Evolutionary sex drive and child rearing.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 2, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
If we're Bosh's last meeting...
I feel good about our chances for a verbal commitment.
Maybe he’ll sleep on it though…
Who knows lol
Spears
While NY free agent F-C David Lee could be involved in a sign and trade, source said no current scenario involves the Phoenix Suns.
I wouldn’t mind a sign-and-trade for David Lee if Deng is involved.
Not possible
Now that the Suns agreed with Hakim, they don’t have enough cap room to do a S&T for Amare! Chad Ford just said that in the chat.
What a dumbass move on their part.
by RM on Jul 2, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Another Chad Ford Comment
From Chad Ford:
2:34 [Comment From Chitown!!!! Chitown!!!!: ]
Ric Bucher said teams feel Lebron is either going to the Bulls or Cavs. Your Thoughts?
Friday July 2, 2010 2:34 Chitown!!!!
2:36 Chad Ford, ESPN Insider: I’ve been strongly in the Bulls camp for months. Still feel that way. But I would understand if he returned to Cleveland and I think all of us are probably discounting how difficult it would be for him to leave. I’m intrigued with the Nets angle and how confident they are … but personally, I don’t see it.
Friday July 2, 2010 2:36 Chad Ford, ESPN Insider
Chad Ford on our backup plan
One more from Ford:
So if Bulls strike out in FA. What players would they trade for (who you think are available via the trade) that can put them in the elite in the East?
Friday July 2, 2010 2:39 Sam
2:42 Chad Ford, ESPN Insider: I think they’ll make a run at David Lee. He’d be a very good fit there. I’d also make a run at Mike Miller if he doens’t sign witht he Lakers. They could use another shooter.
I'm surprised he didn't work out a way to land Kirk.
That would have been a match made in heaven.
Did JuiceBoxJerry hijack Ford's chat?
What’s with all the pessimism?
haha, really? That's my rep now? Guess I have to eat it
Didn’t think I was that bad though
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Nah, I was just playing.
You’ve been negative, but not that bad.
Does Bosh have any meetings planned for Saturday
or are we officially the last team to meet with Bosh and the last team to meet with Bron?
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
lol you're right
I thought he was gonna meet with the Knicks after us today, but I think we’re last (or at least the last team with a chance to get him)
Very interesting
This Chad Ford comment references one of our earlier discussions about Wade:
If Lebron was thinking about staying in Cleveland, should’t he be busy recruiting for sign and trades???
Friday July 2, 2010 2:44 Lakers3peat
2:46 Chad Ford, ESPN Insider: I do think that’s an unusual aspect of this whole thing. If LeBron really wanted to go back to Cleveland … he should’ve committed quickly and then turned all of his attention into trying to help the Cavs work out a sign-and-trade for more talent. That’s always been why I’ve been skeptical about him returning to Cleveland. He’s not helping the Cavs right now. And, by the way, I think the Heat are a little shocked that Wade isn’t doing more to help Miami. He’s out there flirting with the Bulls, Knicks and Nets … not sure that helps their cause in getting other free agents on board. Now maybe Wade is just doing reconnaissance work for Miami … but I’ve found that odd on both accounts.
Friday July 2, 2010 2:46 Chad Ford, ESPN Insider
by RM on Jul 2, 2010 1:50 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I agree.......it's like watching that Jerry Mcguire movie
Show Me The Money!!!!!!
what's LeBron supposed to do to work out sign-and-trades?
it’s not like he can’t talk to these players anyways and tell them “if we figure out a S&T, come to Cleveland with me.” it’s not like he’d trick Bosh into going to Cleveland and then not return there himself. the Wade thing is a little weird, but the same thing applies to him. the other players (like Bosh) probably know what he’s thinking. i think he just wants to join in on the fun and see what it’s all about…and maybe do some spying.
Well
The point is that if he committed to the Cavs, they could be working to improve the team around him instead of waiting for him to decide.
by RM on Jul 2, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
i think he'd only go back if they do pull off a S&T
so committing now would be pretty risky, given that they might not be able to pull off a S&T with or without Bron. i’m saying LeBron himself could easily tell these other players “you’ve got my word, if you accept a S&T to the Cavs i’m staying.” and Cleveland should obviously be working S&T’s right now. does LeBron being signed right now help their chances of completing a S&T?
now as far as other moves Cleveland would make in the case LeBron is leaving, yeah, he’s holding them hostage. but we won’t know if he was doing that until he decides. i’ve gotta think he’s talked with them about how making a S&T would bring him back.
so it’s still unclear if it means anything, and i guess that’s why it’s not really a smoking gun to me.
i agree, wade should have committed already...
but here’s the thing I’m willing to bet Wade, Bosh and Lebron all know where their gong this is just to put on a show for the media
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 2, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I lol'd.
AndrewSharp
The streets made him, and David Kahn paid him. http://twitpic.com/21tnm8
by CavsLebronFan on Jul 2, 2010 1:52 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Feels like I'm watching a TMZ vid
And lol @ the obnoxious NY fan/reporter
Hopefully he’s getting a nice, unintentional tour of beautiful Chicago :D
Lakers offer Mike Miller 5yr/$30m contract (he is still weighing his opts)…team also interested in Tony Allen…Stay tuned
That was from Jalen Rose twitter
It looks like the Lakers are worried a new force comes from the East. They are doing good work
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 2, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Wasn't there some buzz that they wanted to get Raja Bell, too.
Would they be able to get both Miller and Bell? If so, that team is a hell of a lot deeper and more dangerous.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
They are using the MLE so It will be hard
unless Bell takes the minimum to get a ring. But I heard the Bell rumor too.
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 2, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
at this point Bell should only be worth the minimum
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
and they still need a backup point guard
talk of going after Steve Blake, but don’t see how they can if they get Miller
by The90sBullsRevival on Jul 2, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
That's all doubled by luxury tax too
so 5 years, $60 mil that Mike freakin Miller is costing Buss. I bet he’d take that Hinrich trade right now.
why?
Mike miller is better and is being offered less to play a totally different role
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 2, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
haha, Trey at BDL, funny as hell
(sorry for the big pic, but I figured this thread was ending soon anyway)
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Oh, I thought they were saving the seat for Elijah.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Day 2 done
PDcavsinsider
Clippers left after less than an hour meeting. LeBron left shortly thereafter, day is done. Byron Scott about to be introduced…
I bet the conversation went something like this?
“So, uh, Brazil’s out of the World Cup, huh?”
“Yeah, I saw that.”
(crickets)
“Yeah, I’m gonna use the bathroom.”
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
and, vinny going to be our next coach....
what you think lebron???
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 2, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
also just shows how much BS was this fA is
remember leBron on Larry King, talking about the clippers, he was so full of shit
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 2, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
haha why did they even bother really?
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 2, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Just hope they didn't sneak a contract underneath there or something.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Jul 2, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
great strategy
You think Lebron would play for the Clips or just sit out 6 years?
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
they were invited by Lebron
maybe so he feels he gave every team with the cap space a fair chance?
my personal opinion is he wanted to make his own pitch this time to Donald Sterling to sell the team to David Geffen. When that was shot down, meeting over.
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
I'm sure that'll appease season ticket holders...
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Speaking of which, where's Simmons' tweet on this?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
He's had several
None of em that great tho imo. Lot of the usual ripping of Sterling and Dunleavy
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
He had a couple of funny ones earlier
Check @sportsguy33 and read em.
by RM on Jul 2, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's one.
LeBron’s 2nd question: “That guy Sterling, does he still own the team? He does? Thanks for coming, fellas. Safe trip back.”
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
hopefully now Clippers open to taking Deng
straight up cut salary or get a little something back
by The90sBullsRevival on Jul 2, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Deng is a bargain in this market
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
so....
what’s the latest?
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
Better question: Will they discuss anything else?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Using LeBron's name specifically?
I might have to go under on that one.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 2, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be too shocked if Wade went to the Knicks
Kinda hard to recruit others when you’re too busy interviewing with other teams and haven’t signed your own deal yet
total lack of seriousness in this thread
like communicating with a bunch of preteens.
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
Please
give us some seriousness. Make a lengthy post about what all the rumors mean!
It’s not been a serious thread because there’s nothing to get serious about. Just days and days of nonsense rumors and overreactions. Back to planet Douchelon for you!
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
In all seriousness,
I think that post is ridiculous.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 2, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
You do realize you're spending work hours
on an internet site discussing unsourced rumors about people that you will never meet in person. Just so we’re on the same page.
by YaoPau on Jul 2, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
no I'm not.
your work hours are not my work hours. why do you think I just got on? Because I work till 4 in the morning.
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
Well, now that your crabbiness has been explained...
a nap is in order.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 2, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Us "preteens" need little sleep.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 2, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
So... you were spending your free time on here?
ouch!
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
What kind of weirdo complains about a lack of seriousness on a basketball blog during a time like this?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
TANDURRRRRRRRRRRR
Can’t imagine why he works until 4am. Must have an awesome, super serious job!
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 2, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
If Amare signs with the Knicks, Wade leaving is a real possiblity.
Pretty amazing really how this is all working out. I don’t think it would be the worst thing in the world if we ended up with Wade and Boozer. I loved Wade coming out of Marquette…maybe I can learn to love him again.
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How?
How does amare signing with the knicks = wade leaving? He can still get bosh/boozer/lee as well as some other FA’s. I think it’s been basically assured that Wade stays in Miami
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 2, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
ehh. after all we've heard,
seems like anything is possible now.
Agreed.
I don’t see a direct relationship between Stoudemire signing with the Knicks and D-Wade leaving, but I’m definitely less certain about him staying in Miami either way.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 2, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
If it's true that Amare didn't get along with D'Antoni
I wonder if Amare is just messing with the Knicks to screw them over before signing with the Bulls, Heat, or Nets.
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When is the earliest we can reasonably expect some signings on the marquee names?
I guess Amare is about to sign perhaps, but will some of these guys make their choices/announcements this weekend or prolong it until Monday?
alanhahn
Knicks already packed up after barely over an hour with Chris Bosh. Shortest meeting so far. Bosh has yet to emerge, however.
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 2:30 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
woo!!
Cavs will meet with LeBron tomorrow at 11 a.m. Chris Grant said. I guess that means Bulls are going last.
That has to be good news
by YaoPau on Jul 2, 2010 2:31 PM CDT reply actions 9 recs
On a dimmer note
“Tom Thibodeau” anagrams to “Oh, bad timeout”. So there’s that.
by YaoPau on Jul 2, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 10 recs
Chris Webber approves.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
YaoPau... I love you.
you post all my favorite comments and replies. I will now run away in shame.
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
or that the Bulls are going very early
I hope JR is a morning person
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 2, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
This is fantastic (serious voice)
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good thing you used your serious voice
I was getting concerned with the lack of seriousness in this thread. Seriously.
Well, this is a very serious moment
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
What kind of effect do you think this will have on the psyche of Clevelan Cavalier fans?
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
(hearty laughter)
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by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 2, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm. Weren't we operating under the assumption that the Cavs going last meant he was
going to let them down?
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 2, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
"It's been a great 7 years, but I'm about to go tell Chicago I'm signing with them."
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I would love to see LeBron in the meeting likem this..
by SoulEater7 on Jul 2, 2010 2:33 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
hahahaha
King of Basketball… and pimps
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 2, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
it's one thing to let yourself be called the King
no biggie.
But this picture? WOW. Talk about some fucking ego.
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
Yeah.
I’m wondering if this is possibly photoshopped.
"wordy and overly verbose."
by larry on Jul 3, 2009 3:43 PM CDT
by Black Sox Baseball on Jul 2, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
His left nipple is showing
and he has funny looking nipples.
DEJESUS!!!
hahahahhahah
wow, really? llol
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Wow if Byron Scott seriously gives this speech, LeBron is coming to Chicago
RT @ChristopherHine: Scott on what he’ll say to LBJ: I have good idea of what it takes to be successful on this level … I thk Im rght coach.
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