Monday night FA roundup
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 19, 2010 7:00 PM CDT
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- Bulls interested in Joey Graham (for some reason...I'd say he 'knows the Org. but that was his brother Stephen, right?)
- Keyon Dooling to the Bucks
- Craig Smith back to the Clippers (via Rob Mahoney)
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Bulls also would like to have Murray back
Sources also named Cleveland as among the teams interested in free-agent guard Flip Murray. Murray is also said to be receiving interest from the Clippers and Chicago, which he played for last season.
Via Fanhouse
I’m ok with him coming back and play some minutes behind Rose… It’s better than having Pargo.
List of hated players: 1. LeBron; 2. Wade; 3. Bosh; 4. Pargo; 5. Pargo... 100. Pargo
Sigh.
Flip Murray is awful and Keyon Dooling was pretty all right and a decent fit for what we needed. Way to go, Bulls.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 19, 2010 7:06 PM CDT reply actions
He is awful. In his time with the Bulls last year: 12.1 PER, 48.7 TS%
The only thing he did well was defensive rebound.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 19, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Well that's fair. Thank God Pargo is gone and (hopefully) never coming back.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 19, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
How did Pargo get to play so much last year? If it was Vinny's decision
to play him, then that would have been the #1 reason for firing vinny. If pax/forman were making vinny play him, then, well, I can’t even imagine. I stand by my statement that Pargo was the worst player I have ever seen play in the NBA. I would have much rather had Randy Brown or Pete Meyers or even Vinny Del Negro suit up and play for us last year instead of pargo.
It's weird bc
In the game where Vinny was ejected late in the year, I think it was Pete Meyers who was the head coach—it was early in the game, and he quickly put Pargo in there……for even more minutes than Vinny would have.
I’d like to think that was the org asking him too. I didn’t get it bc Law looked pretty decent after he actually started to play.
Pargo wasn’t as bad 3-4 yrs earlier for us, but he really lost the little bit of it he had last year, just awful.
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
Touche.
Part of it is fit, though. Dooling is a much better shooter than Flip and as a result has a better career TS%.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 19, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Wasn't Dooling hurt all or much of last year?
I’m not really pro or against either of them…..I do know Hollinger had Dooling on his all D team 2 years ago, and I liked the few “Wade” esque Dooling things he did back in his Miami days (though that’s a while ago now)…..
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
Didn't see this posted yet, apologies if it has been.
Also, former NBA coach John Lucas told FanHouse on Sunday at the NBA Summer League in Las Vegas that his son, John Lucas III, is being considered by the Heat as a third point guard. The dad said his son, a two-year veteran who last played in the NBA with Houston in 2006-07, is also being looked at by Chicago, which is playing for in the summer league. FanHouse.com
You guys read
this piece on BDL about Xavier?
Seriously, if we can grab him – it be a good look. He can back up Brewer for the next 2 years + Brewer seemed like a real pro that X can learn from
All I want in life is for UC fans to chant: Deeeeeloooonte during Heat games
Basically
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
i really want jeremy lin.
dude was awesome in summer league against john wall in the small spurts he played and i watched him in other games too. smart shots. good passes. great backup/3rd guard or whatever you wanna call it.
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
they say its a 3 team race for him
mavs/lakers/and some eastern power
i forgot where but in some report some people were saying its gotta be boston/orl or chi
i would really love it if we could get him
someone teach me how to get Sam Smith's job when he retires
if lin is going to the lakers
i’d be shocked. ebanks and caracter haven’t even made the team yet, and lin gets a guaranteed contract first? hell of an endorsement.
and that might mean shannon brown to chicago(for better or for worse)
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
That just means that the Lakers need guards
And I dunno if you’ve seen the Lakers’ guards who aren’t Kobe Bryant,
but the Lakers need guards.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Graham?
Ugh. If you are going to go after a great athlete like Graham, at least get a guy with tons of upside or one that has some sort of redeeming qualities.
At a 52% clip
Not saying he’s that good, but he made some good plays on the Nugs last season. The bulk of his starts were when Melo was out. He filled in fairly well offensively, and on the boards.
Jeff from Cleveland wrote- I've figured out the moral of the story: Stay in school. Wade: 3 years at Marquette, Bosh: 1 year at Georgia Tech, the kid from Akron: no college. The most educated guy convinced his dumber friends to come play on his team for less money.
Joey Graham
is definitely better than Stephen.
I’m more partial to someone like Antoine Wright, even though I’m pretty sure he fucked up his knee last year.
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
"That boy is BAD"- Stacey King.
Posted a new Fanshot
looks like C.J. Watson to Bulls???
by K_yle33 on Jul 19, 2010 7:41 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
never seen him play
is he good?
All I want in life is for UC fans to chant: Deeeeeloooonte during Heat games
lol
ok..im a have to txt my warriors buddy
All I want in life is for UC fans to chant: Deeeeeloooonte during Heat games
so this is what he said when I told we got CJ
fuck. great back up pg, can defend, really good shooter, decent passer. basically fuck.
and thats all that matters
All I want in life is for UC fans to chant: Deeeeeloooonte during Heat games
He shoots threes
enough said… almost. He beat out Luke Ridnour when they both played for Seattle Sonics. He’s been a borderline starter/great backup for his career.
Carlos has provided us with a great winter drinking game. Evertime Booze puts up a shot, you put one down.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 19, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
No, CJ Watson was on the "What's Goin' Down" episode of "That's My Mama"
Whoops, that’s Randy Watson
by Stay Chisel on Jul 20, 2010 6:05 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whoops, nevermind
Was thinking of Earl Watson.
Carlos has provided us with a great winter drinking game. Evertime Booze puts up a shot, you put one down.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 19, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well Check him out for yourself!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQBhmNcgxCY
Before today I would have been like ..what who? why?? You Tube is the official Gametape center fo the USA. Now I am sold SIGN THIS GUY!
Wow, this guy is fast.
Not bad for a bench guy. And at a solid price.
Seems a little like
JR Smith, without the 3-point shooting ability. A perfect versatile bench player, but needs to improve his passing.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
Minus about 5 inches and 30 pounds and plays a different position
But other than that, about the same.
Their styles are similar
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
Reminds me more of a much less shot happy, slightly less athletic Monta Ellis.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 20, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Barnes to Raptors
Just filed to ESPN.com: Matt Barnes and Raptors closing in on two-year deal in $10 million range. Will be completed TUES barring late snag
Good for Matt Barnes. Got a decent payday for once.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 19, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
still overpaying their SFs
at least is 2 years this time
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 19, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions
That's good
I kept hearing him to the Heat….which would blow.
2010-2011: I put the Scottie-Barkley Rockets feud curse on the Wade-James-Bosh trio.....
It seems like a lot of teams are overpaying for players
so far the bulls are doing a good job avoiding that
Financial Championships again!!!!
Read that sig, bitches!!!
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Jul 19, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't understand?
Would you rather them overpay for players? Paying the luxury tax for a bad team to me isn’t the mark of a good owner but of a stupid one.
Really? That's pretty much the dumbest comment I've ever seen you make.
That makes zero sense. The Celtics, Lakers, Mavericks, Suns, Magic all have multiple overpaid players.
If they cost $20 million more, they might not be $20 million worth of wins better, but they might be $10 million worth of wins better. That doesn’t make them a bad team. Unless your goal is to win Financial Championships, of course.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
This is a very ironic username.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 19, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
So did the Knicks, Nets and Cavs use up all thier cap space?
All the Knicks got was Amare.
Cavs did no sign anyone from the expirings of Lebron, Z, and ShaQ? Isn’t that like 50 million in expired contracts?
Nets signed a bunch of role players?
"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub
theres nothing out in the market
they will keep the Cavs out of the lottery, might as well keep there money and build a core around Hickson through the draft
don't let the bed bugs bite
by Rex Grossman on Jul 19, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
this is kinda funny
trend continues of signing another player day of a press conference, lol
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
I wouldn't mind re-signing Acie Law and Joe Alexander,
but I think they want to go to a team where they can get more playing time.
either of them
are going to get playing time somewhere?
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Alexander - no
Law … maybe? Who knows
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
C.J. Watson... poor mans Kirk Hinrich.. at a real discount from 9 mil?
"Maybe Paxson influenced has been a bit silenced :-)"
Meh
Watson isn’t nearly the defender Hinrich is.
Watson is a serviceable backup to Rose, but that’s about it. I’m not all that enthusiastic about him. I guess he’s probably one of the better backup PGs left on the market.
by RM on Jul 19, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
ok, you'll right
Earl and CJ mixed up, still Earl also isn’t comparable to Hinrich.
CJ is young guy so he’s a replacement for Pargo, and backup PG.
Probably a nice kid that fits the Bulls good guy image.
"Maybe Paxson influenced has been a bit silenced :-)"
Watson does grab a lot more steals than Kirk. I think Watson is more of a disruptor/gambler, whereas Kirk was
more of a fundamental, keep-the-guy-in-front-of-you type. Kirk accomplished his defense by tricks and clutching and grabbing. Watson gets his work done with athleticism. One is teachable, the other isn’t. I’d rather have Thibs teaching CJ than Kirk. More potential. Plus, CJ is the much better offensive fit, mainly because he doesn’t totally suck on offense.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 19, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Draft Express profile on CJ Watson:
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/CJ-Watson-569/
Last updated: July 14, 2008
C.J Watson clocks Noah (one tough elbow and Noah's down for the count)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg6U0sAaDg8
"Maybe Paxson influenced has been a bit silenced :-)"
God, could the Bulls be any more boring in building a team?
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Well CJ is probably Thibs teachable, and this organization places a high value on character and plays personality safe...
"Maybe Paxson influenced has been a bit silenced :-)"
Watson is at least the 8th man
he is the back up point guard. And I like the Watson signing, boring or not.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 19, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
You figure Korver is 6, Gibson 7, I guess you are right that would make Watson 8. My bad. Asik/JJ 9/10. I think he was by far the best of what was out there. Certainly better than retreads like Roger Mason or Jason Williams. Fairly young (26) and with some upside. Fits what we needed as well (shooting + bench scoring) for a reasonable price. All in all, nothing to complain about.
Expecting? No.
Wanting? Yes.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
This was a sound move. Why complain?
They got a pretty solid young player who filled a need locked up on a cheap deal. This is a good thing. It might not be sexy, but it will help them win games.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 19, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I really like the move. I was just responding to tyger's boring comment. Sexy is landing LeBron James.
But I was pretty jazzed about this move.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 20, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I like this
This is a good pickup for the Bulls because it fills some needs as Watson will be able to backup Rose at the point and he can score which is what the Bulls were looking for.
by dannym22 on Jul 19, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Bulls have made virtually no mistakes this offseason.
That may sound boring. But, in a league where bad contracts can burden a franchise for years, making sound player and financial decisions actually puts us ahead of the pack. I’m pleased with all of our signings.
by rinconen on Jul 19, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Has anyone read the letter Amare wrote to Phoenix fans??
its really nice, i respect him for writing it
Wow
He just gained some serious respect as a man in my eyes. And he probably paid for this himself, which gives him bonus points
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 19, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Lebron could learn something from a guy like that
instead of making a mess out of his decision……….Lebron= No Class
u dont think
thats exactly why amare wrote the letter? I mean he joined ny quite awhile ago….why take so long. I think his agent was sitting around one day and thinking,
‘damn lebron is stupid, and his agent is stupid, if it were me…..hold on….hey amare, its me ur agent…u feel like writing….alright nevermind, ill ghost write it, you just call the arizona newspaper company…alright ill call them…..yea people are gonna love this, ur gonna get a great reputation to start off your career in new york…just watch….’
eh…but i wont complain…anything that makes lebron look more like a douche is a-ok with me…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Jul 19, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
In defense of Amare
at least he wrote something. Also, he didn’t leave an entire fanbase out to dry for entire week like LeBon-bon.
"In order to have a winner, the team must have a feeling of unity; every player must put the team first- ahead of personal glory" - motivational sign at Halas Hall.
yea instead he just walked the moment someone offered him money...
i just think it was a pr move, a good one mind you, but still….
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Jul 19, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
He wanted guaranteed money [that's the only difference between the contracts basically]
Given Amare’s injury history, it was probably a good move.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
right
he’s basically said as much that he would have stayed if phx had given him the guaranteed years. i don’t blame the guy for that.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Yes he's a standup guy
but I’ll like him more if he starts over Bosh in the allstar game!
EC Starters
pg D Rose
sg D Wade
sf D Granger\ P Pierce
pf A Stoudemire
c D Howard
Snubb Lebron like he did the Cavs!!!
I've been a Bulls fan since I was 10, a Laker fan since I started watching the NBA (age 9)
I wanted James to stay!
I never wanted him in Chicago, I would rather have had Joe Johnson. I heard Rose felt the same way!
I've been a Bulls fan since I was 10, a Laker fan since I started watching the NBA (age 9)
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