My 15 minutes as GM
As a long time reader of this blog, but only recent poster, I wanted to take my shot at “The vision thing” for the Bulls and play GM or whatever title in the Bulls org actually makes decisions.
First, I think a GM has to make some assumptions to base his decisions on, so here are mine:
1) We aren’t winning a championship this year. Sure, the US won hockey gold in 1980 so nothing is impossible, but I have to base my decisions on probabilities not miracles.
2) Our next window of opportunity (after the big 3 passing on us this off season) realistically begins in 2012 with a more seasoned Rose and Noah.
3) Rose and Noah can form 2/3’s of a championship core with Noah being no better than the 3rd best with his limited offense. Rose can be either 1 or 2 depending on his development. Let’s hope for number 1 since it’s a lot easier to find a Gasol than a Kobe. To be championship contenders, we still need to find the 3rd piece and he is unlikely on our roster now. (Yes, I know Boozer is an allstar with the interior scoring we’ve always needed, but at 29, he’s going to be in decline during my assumed championship window and his injury history does not bode well for him to be a central piece on a championship team in his 30’s)
4) The New CBA will put tighter restrictions on the cap. In what capacity, I don’t know. Perhaps the MLE will be eliminated. Perhaps the luxury tax will be made to $2 per every dollar over the limit and the limit reduced to the cap figure. Perhaps there will just be a hard salary cap. But something along these lines is going to happen even if LeBron has to live on catfood for 6 months until a lockout or strike is settled. In this event, and assuming we have Rose maxed out and Noah at minimum salary starting with 8 figures, and any combination of Boozer/Deng still on the books, we are essentially out of the tier 1 free agent game for at least the beginning of our championship window unless we strip down again, which is something I don’t see us doing since we will be competitive.
5) Our own draft choices for the foreseeable future, barring a serious injury to Rose is likely to be in the 20’s and we realistically can only hope for depth or trade assets here.
6) The only realistic way we are going to get a 3rd piece is through a trade. On the positive, it seems more and more stars or near stars have been traded in recent years.
My strategy, based on these assumptions:
1) Play a deep rotation and create trade assets. This probably seems obvious, but it’s not. As a rookie coach Thibs will be under tremendous pressure to win. Probably anything short of 50 wins and 2nd round of the playoffs this year will be seen as a disappointment by the fan base. One of our few legitimate trade assets now is Taj (based on his performance vs. his contract). Vinny was panned terribly for playing Taj early last year over Tyrus. Will Thibs get a pass if he gives JJ 8 – 10 minutes a game even if it means risking some wins? There will probably be some ugly moments from Asik as he adjusts to the NBA. We should suffer through them. We can shorten the rotation when the playoffs come.
2) Don’t touch the Charlotte pick this year. As far as I’m concerned, we’re playing with the house’s money from the Curry trade. I know the pick is lottery protected with lowered protection for a few years. I think Charlotte is a borderline playoff team this year (a lot depends on the Knicks). At worst, we get a mid round pick. But if Charlotte sinks, and then really sinks again (Think Tyrus all fat and happy with his new contract), that pick could be our last chance in a long time at a high lottery pick in a few years or a much more valuable trade piece.
3) Save some cap money this year and see what shakes loose at the trade deadline. There will surely be some teams trying to get under the luxury tax line or closer to it. It’s highly unlikely, we’ll nab a star, but maybe we’ll come away with another asset for a future trade for a star. Maybe a team will be forced to throw in a draft choice depending on the quality of the player versu. More assets the better.
4) Public relations campaign. Pax and Reinsdorf need to use the media to their advantage and create the image of a team where players want to come. The Bulls have suffered some horrible image problems since the dynasty break up. Star players are not going to be simply traded. They are only going to go someplace they want to go.
5) Time to grow up and move on from Michael. Quit selling him. John Wall wasn’t born until after the Bulls already won a championship and he was 7 when the Bulls their final championship. Players aren’t going to come here because of the Bulls legacy. They are going to come, money issues all being equal, because they think they can win. Plus, Michael is the owner of another franchise. If some player really idolizes Michael, would he rather play for the man or his statue?
6) Evaluate Thibs as championship coach material. I really hope he works out and he's the man to take us to the promised land. But if not, we need to cut bait quickly. I'd look at bringing back Scott Skiles. If his Coaching arch holds to form, he should just about have worn out his welcome in Milwaulkee and would probably love to take over a contender.
7) Lastly, I give Joe Alexander an end of the bench roster spot. He has few skills worthy of an NBA player, but he fouls really hard, and I encourage Thibs to play him a few minutes every time we face Miami. He’ll be a fan favorite across the NBA.
Sorry for length.
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So your plan is basically to do nothing?
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 18, 2010 9:01 PM CDT reply actions
The "Let it breathe" Pan
I actually agree with his plan for the most part. There isn’t a move out there right now that will put us ahead of the Heat. I would rather accumulate assets for when that move might be available than to overpay and blow our wad on Andre Iguodala or Rudy Fernandez.
Didn't say I didn't agree with the plan. Just didn't see the necessity of such a long post that essentially says "wait and see."
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 18, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
he did apologize for length
although to save you the trouble perhaps it should have come at the beginning :)
If by nothing, you mean that I didn’t offer a grandiose trade proposal where we get OJ Mayo or Carmello in a 4 way trade and only give up a few picks and JJ, then I guess you are right. I’m filling out the roster with near minimums, and hoping a few of these guys earns some minutes. By saving my cap money until later in the season, better opportunities (teams looking for luxury tax relief, disguntled players, teams finding themselves overstocked at some position because of an unexpected emergence, etc.) may be available.
by Carcando on Jul 18, 2010 9:41 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Fine, but that's the equivalent of doing nothing
You’re hardly introducing groundbreaking stuff here. I have only two points of contention thjough:
1) While Rose will most likely improve in the coming years, Noah’s most likely as good as he’s going to get. He may pick up a few new tricks here and there, but in all likelihood, he’s reached his ceiling.
2) Joe Alexander sucks. A lot.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jul 18, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
To add to that
Also don’t really want to see Scott Skiles as coach again. Can’t really see him being the coach of a team with championship-level talent.
by JSB on Jul 18, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I absolutely can see him coaching championship level talent
for exactly one and a half years, after which they’ll pull a Dirk Diggler “We’ll shoot when I’m ready to shoot! I’m the biggest star here!” and start tuning him out completely. So his normal coaching arc, only accelerated (that is, assuming he hasn’t won a ring the first year).
Will everyone stop hating on Deng, please?
Yes he does
Meh, disagree on the Noah bit. I think Noah can still improve offensively. While not a ton of improvement may be left, if he can increase his strength and learn a go-to post move or two, he could become a decent offensive threat. He still has so much room to improve in that area and I don’t see him peaked just yet.
He could get a little stronger, but that's a pretty minor overall thing
He might develop a bit of a post game, but after years of watching guys like Tyson Chandler and Tyrus Thomas fail to develop a post game, I’m not optimistic.
I’m not saying he necessarily won’t improve at all, but the chances of major improvement aren’t big enough where it’s something we can bank on.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jul 18, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll agree with that sentiment
We should definitely not count on that. But it took Noah a full season and half just to get in basketball shape. We’ll see what a year with Thibs and his staff can do. If he hasn’t developed much of a post game by the start of next season, he probably won’t.
Not sure we can count on Thibs to help develop a post game
I’m as big a fan as anyone, but I think he’ll be more focused (and better at) making sure Noah is in the right situation to wreak absolute havoc on the defensive end than augmenting his limited post skills.
Will everyone stop hating on Deng, please?
Noah showed a lot more ability with his left and right hand hook shots last year
than Chandler has showed even now. Noah could spin, throw up that shot and be on target pretty consistently. I don’t expect him to develop a stand still post game with a bunch of counters, but he can still be a better offensive threat than he’s been to this point. He’s not un coordinated, which is the problem some other players had.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
1) Noah at his ceiling… I hope not, but I won’t argue. I’m not a big believer in the “they’ll improve” stuff since it seems our key guys never do. But I do think Noah will be stronger, and I hold out some minor hopes he will develop a few moves around the rim. If he solidifies himself as a top rebounder, and good post defender while running the court like a gazelle and regularly beating his man down the court, he’s good enough as our 3rd guy.
2) Yeah, I know Joe Alexander sucks. The 12th guy isn’t going to get minutes. But I remember the game last year (sorry, can’t remember opponent – maybe Orlando) when Bulls were getting knocked around physically. Vinny put in Alexander, and he committed 6 fouls in 3 minutes and I think he left a mark on the opponents with every foul. I’m 95% sure those were the instructions. I couldn’t believe none were whistled as flagrant. And that 1 minor skill set is all I’m asking for against LeBron for 1 minute a half. Yeah, it’s mostly meant in jest, but….
6 fouls in 3 minutes is not a good thing,,,
There are much better options even for the 12th roster spot. Isn’t your plan to have a deep rotation and try to turn guys into tradeable assets? Well then shouldn’t we get someone who might turn into a tradeable asset? Joe Alexander doesn’t fit that bill.
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jul 18, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
You always
need a goon on your team, and I approve of goon tacticts
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 19, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
More importantly...
We know the Celtics, Heat, and Magic approve of the “Goon Tactic”, so we could at least have an option if we need it.
by Khalid El-Amin on Jul 20, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
the Bulls have $7.8 million in cap space, and 3 roster spots to fill
At least one of those roster spots need to be filled with a guy who can play regular rotation minutes 18-20 minutes a game. You may also want to splurge on a 5th big man in case Asik struggles. I don’t think the Bulls should go out and throw there money at some one who is terrible, but the team isn’t even finished being built yet and still has glaring needs.
- they need a high caliber 3rd guard (lets say $4 million a year)
- they need either a back up point guard or 2 guard depending on which position the “high caliber” 3rd guard plays ($2 million a year)
- they need a 5th big man in case someone gets injured or Asik sucks
Rose 36 / Back-up 12
Brewer 30 / Korver 6 / Backup 10
Deng 36 / Korver 12
Boozer 30 / Taj 18
Noah 34 / Boozer 4 / vet big man or Asik 10
I don’t think they should blow there cash on the first guy who passes by, but they have needs that they need to address before the season and I don’t know how much under the cap they can be without really sacrificing wins. Most teams carry 5 guards, right now the Bulls have 2. Good teams typically have guys who can create offense off the bench – our best bench scorer will be Korver, who is highly dependent on our starters (Rose and Boozer) to get looks.
I don’t know how much cap space it is realistic to expect them to save. I guess they could go cheap and get away with:
Rose 36 / Backup pg 12
Brewer 30 / Korver 18
Deng 36 / JJ 12
Boozer 30 / Taj 18
Noah 34 / Boozer 4 / Asik 10
But that team still needs to find someone who can back up Rose and that roster looks highly susceptible to injuries. Noah or Deng go down and all of the sudden JJ and Asik are logging 30 minutes a game. You’ve got guys like Flip shooting in the 4th quarter. You are playing Korver out of position and trusting JJ/Asik with a ton of responsibility. I’m okay with letting it breathe, but at some point this season before Noah’s extension kicks in, the Bulls have to make a move to improve the talent on the team. Because the current collection, isn’t enough.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 19, 2010 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I think Korver will get more than 18 minutes.
Unless they sign a guard or two they really like. He’s really the only pure shooter on the team.
True
They didn’t give him 5 million to play 18 minutes. Pretty sure he’s going to back up both the 2 and 3 spots, which should give him 25 minutes at least.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
i see your point.
the Bulls probably will play Korver about 20-25 minutes. But I still think they need a big time combo guard if they are going to challenge for the Eastern Conference Finals as a lot of people expect.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 19, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
your backup PG is now Watson
What do you think of that?
by 72-10 on Jul 19, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I like the Watson signing
he was 1st on my list of possible back up point guards.
http://www.blogabull.com/2010/7/16/1573727/top-available-free-agents#
And they got him for the price I hoped for. He isn’t the uber talented combo guard like Lou Williams, but he has the potential to grow into that. Watson relieves some of the fear I had when I heard names like Rafer Alston, Shannon Brown and Jason Williams being thrown around. He still young enough to improve, but good enough to help the team now.
They get another shooter (Mason) and a 5th big man (Thomas/Boone) and I think they will have had a pretty good summer.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 19, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm with you on Boone but not Thomas....
37 is too old! Mason could easily be replaced by Byars from the summer league for less money. Given the last spot on the roster will hopefully rarely play… I think we’re fine with holding onto the leftover money. I’m sure JR agrees!
BTW the only other center worth getting is.. gulp… Brown… The more I look at the backup 7 footers on the market, the more I think they all suck.
i'm torn on the back up center position
it seems kind of dangerous to have your back up center be a rookie from Europe with no offensive game. It seems Asik should have “adjustment period” on the back of his jersey. Ideally I think you want either a young guy talented enough to back up the 2, but who won’t bitch if Asik beats him out (Boone) or a veteran guy who is good enough to man the back up center position and than whatever you get from Asik is gravy (Thomas – although you may disagree). Kwame Brown I guess fits into the first category, but everything about that guy makes me depressed. I don’t know, when I watch him play I feel sorry for him because he never looks like he is having any fun. I don’t know if I want that kind of guy on the Bulls.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 20, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions
OJ or Carmelo?
Don’t you mean OJ and Carmelo. When the fundamental premise of a trade that another GM is an idiot, it’s hard to take that trade proposal seriously.
My plan as GM:
Make as many trades with David Kahn as possible.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
by Prevenge on Jul 18, 2010 11:29 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
Gotta get our hands on some T-Wolves draft picks. Then we can find another Noah level steal.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 19, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Kahn is now
trying to stockpile his team w/ SF
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 19, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
James Johnson for a first!
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 19, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
He's got better upside than Wesley Johnson
Guy can’t even see PT in Summer League.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
ok, maybe he's injured
but whatever. I remain unimpressed by the 0 games of his I’ve watched. I’m sure Kahn has watched the same number of games. Maybe we can send him a JJ highlight reel and get him to send us two firsts!
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
JJ and a 2nd rounder for Sessions and Ellington?
Wolves trade the pg they’re trying to dump and a cheap young shooter for a pick and a cheap young (less-refined but higher upside) slasher. That would leave the Bulls with roughly:
Rose 36 / Sessions 12
Brewer 30 / Ellington 10 / Korver 8
Deng 34 / Korver 14
Boozer 26 / Taj 22
Noah 32 / Asik 10 / Boozer 6
by from the window to luol on Jul 19, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Timberwolves are stockpiling wings this year, right?
Sure, why not, it looks like it’d work.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
by Prevenge on Jul 19, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would...
Sign Lucas III as backup PG. Sign one of the other summer league guys to a one year deal (Byars?, I like Boudin but I think he needs the D-league.) Sign Kwame Brown as 3rd center. I hate to say it but he’s the best on the market… good news is we don’t have to give him much for money or years. I’d also resign Alexander and give the guy a shot to win the 12th spot on the roster in preseason… he would compete with Byars.
I guess you could sign Joel Anthony over Brown, neither option is exciting… But you do need to sign someone who physically capable of playing a chunk of minutes in case Asik sucks or there is an injury. Both Anthony and Brown have some experience starting and should come cheep. In a perfect world, Asik should be able to be the main backup by mid year, and then whoever you sign can be traded / relegated to bench warmer.
Keep the vast majority of the cap space and use it mid way through the year to fill the SG need… The pickings are slim at this point and you’re not going to find value for the extra $s.
Kurt Thomas and Josh Boone are both better options than kwame brown
Pat Riley is the devil.
by Poloplaya14 on Jul 19, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thomas is 37
and he only played 1000 minutes last year. At least Brown can still play defense…. I’d put Boone on the same level as Anthony…. I guess I wouldn’t hate Boone, but no way on Thomas.
I don’t like Brown either BTW, I just don’t think there is anyone else better out there. You need that extra big guy for those games against Howard and Perkins. The point is you want someone who is capable of playing the minutes until we’re comfortable with Asik.
We don't need Kurt Thomas to play anywhere near 1000 minutes. He's only there in case someone gets hurt.
That happened for the Bucks last year and he came in and filled in admirably for Bogut.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 19, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
He's your Asik Insurance
And if Asik sucks, then we’re stuck playing Boozer out of position at C.
point is he could potentially need to play 15-20
minutes per game… I don’t know if you can count on that for Thomas. Maybe 5-10.
I feel pretty confident in saying that Asik won't suck, especially in the limited minutes he'll be asked to play.
The Bulls will win 50 games this year and (hopefully) the Central Division for a top 3 seed.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 20, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL... I know, but as a bench guy
I don’t think he’d be that bad. Everyone hates on him because he was a #1 pick. If he was a second rounder people would think he was decent player.
BTW, I’m happy with the Watson signing, but the main point is keep a buck or two lying around for the deadline. Despite what you here on CNBC, the economy isn’t going to rebound soon and there will be teams desperate to make a deal come the deadline to save some cash.
Kwame is a decent post defender and rebounder. His hands suck and he’s garbage offensively. But he wouldn’t be a bad backup defensive big.
He is Stephen A, to remind
you guys about Kwame Brown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PP4RT-vv-o&feature=related
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 20, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
That made my day
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
I dont really have any problems with the wait and see approach
but when you title this thread as “my 15 minutes as GM”, I guess I was expecting something groundbreaking. Otherwise, you have just wasted your 15 minutes.
Anyway, if I am the GM of the Bulls, I would try to exert more influence in the NBA draft. The Bulls play in the 3rd largest US market, and is, by most accounts, the most profitable team in the NBA. I would use that financial backing to my advantage by paying the $3M to buy late 1st rounders and/or try to improve the Bulls’ draft position in many drafts. While it is understandable to not pay the luxury tax when the Bulls is not a serious contender, the draft is a great source of cheap talents to help the Bulls to bolster their bench, acquire assets, and maybe find some diamond in the rough. When you buy other teams’ draft picks, you also deprive the other teams of those same assets.
You are aware that we are ALL wasting our time here… right?
The problem with the draft picks is that it usually includes taking on a bad contract along with it, similar to how we got ride of Kirk. But in theory, I agree that anything that accumulates assets we can potentially put together in a package down the road for a real core player is exactly what we want to do, and taking some financial risks to get longshot draft picks is fine by me. I’ve no problem spending my owner’s money. He’s got plenty.
TALK ABOUT CONSERVATIVE
I f-ing tired of all this crap about when the bulls can win and how many years it will take etc., and when we can realistically “get our hopes up”. We have a good core, if there are chances to improve it, then take advantage of the opportunity. Meanwhile, let’s go and KICK SOME ASS!!! Every game, every season counts! Let’s not turn this into the infamous “Wait ’till next year” tune of the Cubs, please.
by GriggsBriggs on Jul 20, 2010 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
For what it’s worth, I agree with you and it’s why I was not angry about the Boozer signing. Of all the players still available after LeBron confirmed his conspiracy, Boozer was the best suited to help us win games this year and make us a threat for a deep playoff run. No longer will we be a bunch of high energy youngsters trying to surprise the league. we should win a lot of games this year. But we won’t win a championship, and a championship is what I want. And nobody left on the free agent market gets us there, so let’s figure out a different way even if it means taking a pass on a back up that might win us one more game this year than a replacement level guy.
It's true that a championship isn't our best bet for next season
And I want a championship too. Every true fan wants a championship. But it doesn’t mean that this team can’t succeed in the playoffs. As for the roster, don’t worry, the chances to improve it will come, and I have faith that our management will do the best.
by GriggsBriggs on Jul 20, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions

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