Summer League Open Game Thread: Bulls vs. Kings
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 17, 2010 7:00 PM CDT
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PrintAnother televised* contest.
*Wow, besides getting that wrong and the opponent as well, good job by me.
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is it halftime or soemthing
i cant seem to watch this on atdhe
JJ is good
at being athletic
also at MMA
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Televised? I have Clips/Kings on NBATV here.
Fortunately, I’m going out tonight. I think I’ve had enough of summer league.
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Nice pass by Bouldin
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
I'm warming up to Samuels
I hope they give him lots of looks today.
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 17, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Samuels is Only 6-9...
We need a guy that can play backup center and power forward. However, we could use Samuels as insurance for trading Taj and maybe james johnson to try and get a shooting guard that can defend and shoot the three
He was rated higher
Than Greg Monroe out of high school. There is some question as to whether his stock would have been better if he would have played with better talent in college.
How well is Ogilvy playing?
Havent heard much about the big guy and I know he was pretty good in college.
He's played terrible
He appears athletically overmatched by everyone around him.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
by NBA Observer on Jul 18, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
And that's being nice....
Becuase he actually…is in the present tense…and will be in the future…athletically overmatched by everyone around him.
Chris Richard is SO BAD
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
I wouldn't mind keeping him around
just to have him goon the shit out of Bosh in the playoffs
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
I'd rather have an unretired Luc Longley for that
or Adam Morrison
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Take that charge Johnson!
Or get out of the way. One of the two.
His court judgement makes Tyrus
Look like Thurgood Marshall.
by H. Vaughn on Jul 17, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Samuels > Richard
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
by Sir Buckets on Jul 17, 2010 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Cousins seems lazy as hell this game
He’s not moving or anything.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Samuels should definitely be a Bull next season
he would make a good 13 or 14th man
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 17, 2010 7:57 PM CDT reply actions
Scary that James Johnson
is the Bulls’ 2nd best ballhandler
*on their nba roster
Summer league too evidently
Fortunately
Rose handles the ball 37 minutes a game, so it shouldn’t be a huge deal, especially once we sign a backup PG
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Brewer might be better
but, point taken. They really need to sign a pg.
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 17, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Offensively, Brewer is mostly a slasher and shot-creator thanks to his fantastic ball-handling skills. Being highly fluid and extremely intelligent, he can dribble the ball with purpose using either hand, allowing him to get into the lane almost whenever he pleases. He’s extremely aggressive attacking the rim and is a great finisher once he gets to the basket, being very creative and having the strength, toughness and intelligence to either finish the play or get to the line.
From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ronnie-Brewer-64/#ixzz0tzWXSSe5
http://www.draftexpress.com
2 guards don’t handle the ball in Utah’s offense. I think he will be more of a creator with us.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 17, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Unfortunately he shoots 23% from 3 and 72% from the line.
They need another shooter.
by Jerry Mumphrey on Jul 17, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
He may even run a little point for us too
I thought I heard that he did in college.
i would be fine with him initiating the offense
as along we can pair him with a shooter. We need to get a shooter to back up the 2. First preference is Rudy Fernandez, but we will see who the organization gets.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 17, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Interesting stuff
nice find Smurf. I see he averaged 4+ ast/40 in college. If he can just be a drive and kick guy, that would stop defenses from doubleteaming Rose.
Did they just say that almond had a bunch of 50 pt games in d league last year?
by DisCUBbobulated on Jul 17, 2010 8:19 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, something like that.
I dunno if they were all in the same year though.
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
my favorite guys on the summer league roster
samuels, almond, bouldin, byars. I would invite them all to vet camp, and hopefully, keep 3 of the 4 on the roster in the 12-14 spots. I hate when teams keep vets who can’t play there. We don’t need Hunter providing advice anymore.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 17, 2010 8:22 PM CDT reply actions
i take that back
after the bulls get a vet big man and 2 more guards, that only leaves 2 roster spots. I would sign Samuels to a minimum deal and let the other three fight it out in camp for the last spot.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 17, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he's in.
He’s the right kind of guy that, under Thibs, could log 10-15 mins decent basketball. And it won’t hurt to have another young big off the bench to eat fouls if necessary. Between he and Omer, I don’t think the loss of Miller will hurt too much.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jul 17, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Swirksy with the unintentional lolz:
Samuels-Louisville-Cousins-Ketucky banging each other in the post-love it
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
by Illini15 on Jul 17, 2010 9:04 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
This might sound dumb, but I think
Johnson needs to take some of that arc out of his shot.
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
From what i've seen today..
Johnson is the best ball handler on this team.
Samuels is the most skills basketball player on this team.
Almond plays absolutely NO defense, but has a real advanced offensive game.
Everybody else.. meh
Also, Johnson seems to do everything above average (namely, dribbling, help defense, blocks, slashing, passing..) but does NONE of those things well enough to be dominating even this level of fringe players.
[only built for cuban linx]
Bouldin has court vision to spare
He casually and effortlessly gets passes into the paint to anyone who crosses through. And his ball-handling is very good as well. Unfortunately I never see him take shots or get aggressive. That kind of mentality will prevent him from making the squad.
Can he shoot? Can he at least try to finish at the basket? That’s what is hard to see.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jul 17, 2010 9:15 PM CDT reply actions
Bouldin doesn’t appear to be able to drive, defend, finish, or shoot. That’s going to make it real hard for him to make any NBA team.
[only built for cuban linx]
by Mighty Healthy on Jul 17, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty much
Doesn’t help that he’s pretty scrawny too.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jul 17, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
He's the prototypical massive vision - no athleticism PG.
I want him to succeed! :) He’s like me, only … more athletic. … [sigh]
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
I think I read somewhere
that the reason was he was told he could easily get a roster spot. So, he’s just setting up other guys to give them a shot. I think they said that the Bulls would have drafted him. But, I don’t have a link, sorry.
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 18, 2010 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Samuels
Say the Bulls did decide they were interested – do they have any contractual advantages over other teams because he’s representing them in the summer league?
What is samuels first name?
"It was a perfect situation for the Brewers," Hill said. "They had a guy up there at the plate [in Counsell] who takes a lot of pride in what he does and he practices those situations, so when it does come up, he gets the bunt down to the right side of the field. They have the perfect guy on first base [in Gomez], who is one of the fastest guys in the league, and they had one of the worst fundamental teams on the field, so it was a perfect situation for them."
agreed
I would just feel better doing it if they had signed Miller and I knew more about Asik
"It was a perfect situation for the Brewers," Hill said. "They had a guy up there at the plate [in Counsell] who takes a lot of pride in what he does and he practices those situations, so when it does come up, he gets the bunt down to the right side of the field. They have the perfect guy on first base [in Gomez], who is one of the fastest guys in the league, and they had one of the worst fundamental teams on the field, so it was a perfect situation for them."
by louslovechild on Jul 17, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
why the fuck is
chris richard in on a final shot attempt?
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Good game
We still owe you one after last year ;)
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 17, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Could've taken a dribble or two and took less of a deep three there.
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
Oddly..
JJ played better last summer league. I still think he played a pretty good game, regardless of that last TO. Samardo Samuel HAS to make the team, his footwork is very advanced.
[only built for cuban linx]
On top of a lack of size..
shoot, if he had ANY type of mid-range jump shot he would have been in the first round. He’s an actual low post player. He clearly should have stayed in school, but as it stands, if he was in the NBA right now, he probably has a top 10 low post skill-set.
[only built for cuban linx]
by Mighty Healthy on Jul 17, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Thibs is gonna shank Myers in the lockerroom.
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
by Sir Buckets on Jul 17, 2010 9:29 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
FAT JAMES JOHNSON
was still VERY athletic. His new body shape makes him less effective it seems. Last summer, he wouldn’t have gotten his pockets picked like that. He was too wide. The defender simply reached around him and poked the ball.
[only built for cuban linx]
I'll still give jj a chance
JJ is still adjusting to his body. imagine paul pierce suddenly playing in a ray allen body. I really think JJ can be solid player in the nba. not an allstar but a solid contributor off the bench
Stop making excuses for JJ
The guy sucks and hasn’t worked on his game, he even said that he needs to get much better. Listen, i know it’s just the summer league but how can you be the worst player on the team on summer league, playing with a bunch of rookies and d-league players. The only guy i see making team is JJ by default and Samuels……….i personally would like to see JJ sent to the D-league if he doesn’t improve this summer
Worst player on the team?
Were you watching the same game that I was watching? He was being asked to do more than anyone else on the team. He didn’t play great today, but he was far from the worst guy out there.
exactly..
The only other guys asked to do something more than catch and shoot was Boulin and Samuels.
[only built for cuban linx]
by Mighty Healthy on Jul 17, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I totally agree on sending JJ to Dl
I also want to see him play where he is not the focus of the defense. He’s just a complementary player at best
by trig on Jul 17, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That doesn't really make sense
If JJ goes to the D League he is likely to be the best player on his team, meaning he would be the focus of the opponent’s defense. Let’s wait and see how he does in training camp and exhibitions before relegating him to the D League.
The "Shaqtus," a Bull? I HOPE SO NOW MILLER'S GONE, Shaq is better than Kurt Thomas
No fear with Shaq on the team could be very effective Playing certain Team’s like the magic
Between Shaq ,Boozer, Noah The comment’s alone are worth the signing
Link
http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/hoops-in-view/2010/07/the-shaqtus-a-bull.html
My attitude is that if you push me towards something that you think is a weakness, then I will turn that perceived weakness into a strength.
Michael Jordan
Now that I've looked at all of the options, I am OK with Chris Richard returning to the team.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Shaq>Chris Richard
chicago jazz, now playin
by Juan dela Cruz on Jul 17, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
If you saw more than 0 Cavaliers games last year
you wouldn’t say that.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
I'm fairly sure he's a good defender
His measurements are pretty massive, similar to Daniel Orton, and he seems quick with good hands. Even though he’s terrible offensively, he’s at least useful, and I’d rather sign him to a cheap deal than sign Kurt Thomas who will just cut into Asik’s time.
but asik is still not proven
chicago jazz, now playin
by Juan dela Cruz on Jul 17, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you more confident in Kurt Thomas?
9.8 PER last year, 38 years old now. Sure he’s proven in the past that he’s a good player, but I don’t think that means he’s proved a thing for next year.
so by "now", you mean today is actually october 4?
that is the day bb-ref lists for kurt thomas’ 38th b-day. shaq is 38, though.
i think the pro-kurt camp is a response to the pro-shaq peops. an "if it’s vet center presence that’s needed, why not get a guy that can still defend and won’t fuck up the team?’ kinda thing.
chris richard, morris almond, samardo samuels, plus somebody-else-ball-handler is fine by me.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Why the hell is J.J. getting schooled at summer school (league) in his 2nd year?
..not looking good so far
by KentuckyBullsFan on Jul 18, 2010 12:32 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
What's with all these 1 pt losses?
Anyway, you know you are excited for the upcoming season when you are actually following the summer league!
How well is Ogilvy playing?
Haven’t heard anything about the big guy…
james johnson, with lucas sitting out especially, was running a lot of offense this game
he reminded me of an aggressive boris diaw, with the ability to go left, however. in every other way, he would make a worse comparison to that player: lack of scoring move(s), ability to put the ball in the basket or set up teammates consistently, and terrible decisions or i.q.
tantalizing potential that begs the question: better to have known skills and not use them to the max, or better to actually know how to play basketball using those skills?
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
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