Bulls have their starting two guard as NBA sources say they agree to $12.5 million three-year deal with Ronnie Brewer
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Let Ronnie Brewer era begin
well, at least was cheaper than JJ
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 16, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let me start off by saying SWEEETTTTT!!!!!
WOOOHOOOOOO!! I am sooooo STOKED about getting this guy!!! I have been checking everyday multiple times a day to see if the magic had matched reddick so we could sign this guy. I liked reddick’s shooting but the size and athleticism this guy brings to the table is what we needed. I had the bulls getting big z, Mike Miller and Brewer in the free agency. The first two, didn’t pan out but this is exactly what we needed!! A second ball handler, A BIG (6’7) athletic 2 defend and drive the lane!! Can’t wait to see what coach thibs does with this already good defensive 2!
As stated by another random fan….This should be our new theme song….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5-yKhDd64s
Seems like a good price!
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 16, 2010 1:06 PM CDT reply actions
PHEW
We can field a starting lineup now
There are really only two plays: Romeo and Juliet, and put the darn ball in the basket.
-- Abe Lemons
albeit with no outside threat
Unless Rose’s 3 is for real. But even if it is, there needs to be shooters on the floor with him. Hopefully Deng can step back around the arc, not just the corner.
There are really only two plays: Romeo and Juliet, and put the darn ball in the basket.
-- Abe Lemons
Korver will be used when the floor needs to stretched.
I also see the Bulls reaching out to Matt Barnes who can shoot the 3 as well.
Semper Fi
by ChicagoMarine on Jul 16, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry bro..
Shooting 31.9% from three doesn’t suffice for “Shooting the Three” … Chucking the three maybe..
True.
I was thinking he was closer to 40 than further…
… Defense and intensity would be good though.
Semper Fi
by ChicagoMarine on Jul 16, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Outside threat = Deng
He’ll continue to lead the league in long 2’s.
(Also, per Draft Express, he shot 39% from 3 last year, mainly from the corners, I’m sure).
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Almost 80% of his attempts were from the corners, per hotspots
He was over 40% shooting on each side.
No Pargo in the starting lineup
Suck it, Brussard.
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by E-Grizzle on Jul 16, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
i love
LOVE all these 3 year deals. bulls are def playing it smart.
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by Jaina on Jul 16, 2010 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Especially since one of those years
there won’t even be any NBA basketball !
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 16, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don't want to think about this
We still haven’t full recovered from the first lockout.
Carlos has provided us with a great winter drinking game. Evertime Booze puts up a shot, you put one down.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 16, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, that's cheap.
Magic should not match just to fuck with the Bulls. Then the Bulls would be awesome!!!
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Hell yeah!
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 16, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I am warming up to Brewer
He doesn’t give us that outside shot that we could use but I like the athleticism and his defensive abilities. Considering it’s a 3 year deal, I can’t be too upset.
BREWER!
FINALYY SOME FLASH WITH THE BULLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brewer and Rose are going to be so exciting to watch!!!
I love this!
Fantastic
Finally, an big athletic two guard who can D IT UP, and take it to the RACK!!
Chi-Town sports fan
by Cap10_Kirk on Jul 16, 2010 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Heh, they got him cheaper than Thabo, too.
It all works out.
(that’s because it was basically between these two for the 2nd draft pick in 2006.)
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Jul 16, 2010 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Especially considering the past three years didn't really count
I liked Ronnie then, and I like him here now. Good signing.
I will never doubt the Chairman again.
thabo's salary
is actually less on a per year basis: $3mil+$3.3mil+$3.6mil+$3.9mil
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ha
me too… well not pissed, but disappointed. thabo had some of that euro intrigue. i think ford or someone was pimping him pretty hard as a sleeper.
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That's a good starting lineup.
And there’s still about $7.5M – $8M in cap space left, I reckon.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 16, 2010 1:13 PM CDT reply actions
Why not just make this a 5 year deal
Dude’s 25 and this is insanely cheap. So a little downer there, but otherwise WOOOOO!!!
Also
Imagine a Rose-Brewer-Deng-Taj-Noah lineup with Thibodeau in charge. Talk about lockdown.
what happened to Boozer?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Imagine that lineup
5 mins into the game.
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 16, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Imagine that lineup
after Boozer tears his ACL
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Agreed
$4 million/year for Brewer is insanely cheap. Even better than the deal that Morrow got. I would like to see us use the rest of the cap space to fill out the rest of the team. I wonder if he didn’t want to sign a longer deal b/c he thinks he can prove himself on the Bulls and then get a bigger deal later.
"I would like to see us use the rest of the cap space to fill out the rest of the team."
uh…what else would they do?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sit on it
I don’t know. But I mean to add a meaningful rotation player. Another shooter would be nice.
Unhappy and awesome backcourt > happy and less awesome backcourt
IMHO, and Rudy can back up at 1, right?
We've seen how Rudy plays when he's unhappy
Nothing awesome about that.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
Sure there is, especially if (when) Deng goes down
Brewer can play the 3 and Rudy can play PG passably.
Brad Miller is god.
I don't think the org has the guts to trade any more draft picks
Even though that’s often what championship level teams do.
Carlos has provided us with a great winter drinking game. Evertime Booze puts up a shot, you put one down.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 16, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
its because
championship level teams tend to stay among the top 10 teams in the league, so the most they usually give up is a 20th overall draft pick. Deng, Noah, and Boozer all are possible to go down this year, and we can go from a likely 5th seed, to a lottery pick in a blink of the eye. Still, i think if rudy is available you go for him, a team of Rose/rudy/brewer/taj/Asik might be competitive enough to stay out of the lottery
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Robinson re-signed with the Celtics today
I really don’t think they go near West.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm not a big Nate fan
but he would have been perfect as the instant offense guy off the bench. and he can defend. i wonder how Thibs felt about him.
As a bench player, I take him
Just gald Brewer was in place first.. Starting Mason would have given me a mini heart attack.
Carlos has provided us with a great winter drinking game. Evertime Booze puts up a shot, you put one down.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 16, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
They can get another big, maybe at the minimum or get a wild card like McGrady
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I think, at this point, I'd rather Howard
Even though he’s out until January. He is still less of a question mark than McGrady.
Carlos has provided us with a great winter drinking game. Evertime Booze puts up a shot, you put one down.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 16, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
A 4 mil a year deal is Awesome for a potentially starting shooting guard...
thats the equivalent of a top 5 rookie contract. We signed him to three years because of the Free agency in 2013 when the big three decide that it just inst going to work and there is another stellar free agent class.(Oh and we should finally be able to get rid of deng’s contract.) We didn’t sign boozer to a 3 year deal because, well he wouldn’t have signed with us. (That would have been a backup dream scenario considering we didnt get any of the big 3). Now all we have to do is convince Denver there is no way Carmelo is going to stay with them and that for the price Deng is the best thing to happen to the SF position since sliced bread, pull off the trade..and we will be in the hunt for a title this year!
Perhaps Dude realizes he's 25
and wants a deal less insanely cheap in 3 years instead of 5
you're forgetting the 2013 plan
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Bulls are going all 3 year deals so that when Rose's extension comes up they can cheap out with the surrounding pieces.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
rec!
but don’t depress me yet, the signing is less than an hour old :)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
2007-2010 Jazz=2011-2014 Bulls.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 16, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
and a better SF
(compared to last year)
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 16, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not so bad
The Jazz made it to the WCF, which is far more than we’ve ever accomplished.
I’m happy with the Brewer signing, because it’s cheap and because Brewer is insanely athletic and a good defender. He’s not a horrible starter, given what else was out there.
I also give the Bulls credit for having him in their back pocket so they could get the signing done if/when Redick was matched. It reminds me of their fast move on Boozer.
That said, I still think we could use another shooter (in particular, a natural 2 who could shoot), and I hope we make a trade for Rudy or another SG who’s a 3-point threat. I think that having Rudy/whoever + Korver in the game together would present matchup problems and would be great late in games if we need a 3. Plus it would give us more lineup flexibility and the ability to create matchup problems for opposing teams.
by RM on Jul 16, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe not EVER accomplished.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Ugh
That’s not necessarily it at all…they could also be realizing that around the time of Rose’s extension is a good time to restructure their team. Depending on how Rose and Noah develop the players they want to surround them with could change in three years. Putting it at the time of Rose’s extension just makes sense.
Debbie downer.
Please...staying out of the tax obviously the reason
Look at the Bulls history and JR’s own words about when he’d be willing to pay the tax. If a Bulls team were to come out of nowhere and win the championship, he’d pay to retain it. But with Miami hosting the best team in NBA history for the next 5 years, the Bulls are not title contenders. JR will not pay the tax. They are setting up to be able to re-sign Rose and surround him with minimum deals to stay out of the tax. Sometimes the obvious reason is the truth.
by hitlesswonder on Jul 16, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
"Sometimes the obvious reason is the truth."
There’s even a name for this phenomenon — something about a Razor …
by jpx7 on Jul 16, 2010 3:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Making money is his main concern
If we’re winning championships, there may be more money to be had paying the tax, then not paying it and getting knocked out in the first round every year.
This is probably exactly what they are doing, but playing devils advocate a little.
New CBA will probably limit how teams can spend. My guess is that the tax will become harsher. Reinsdorf, Gar, and Paxson could be simply setting up that the tax won’t be an issue to sign Rose. You know set it up so the cap isn’t a hindrance to sign the franchise guy.
Part of that rec had to do with your screen name.
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by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 16, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Fantastic.
Now let’s get B52 and a quality backup PG.
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by Dash2112 on Jul 16, 2010 1:15 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I am fully on the James Johnson for Jose Calderon bandwagon.
It’s expensive, but it’s only 3 years, too.
Rose – Calderon
Brewer – Calderon – Korver
Deng – Korver
Boozer – Gibson – Noah
Noah – Asik – Miller
I wouldn’t have thought they could have done better. That’s a well-balanced team.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Wow.
I like that a lot.
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A 9 million dollar backup point guard?
Really?? Have you not seen any of the signings so far this off season? You want to pay $29,342,978 across a 3 year deal to a backup point guard??? You are out of your mind!
by mazzimo on Jul 16, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kirk was a 9M a year backup when Rose was first drafted.
"Did Jordan join the Pistons? No, he stayed in Chicago until he beat the Pistons."
Calderon filling the overpaid backup guard role?
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't Calderon pretty much exclusively a PG?
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
sure, same way Hinrich was.
Only he’ll shoot 40% from 3. And he’s been assisted on 88% or more of his 3’s the last three years. I’d say he can catch-and-shoot.
10-15 mpg, he spares rose at PG.
10-14 mpg, he plays SG next to rose, rose plays off the ball. I’m happy for it.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
That would be a damned fine pickup.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 16, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
if you want defense out there, you keep Deng and Brewer.
you want both D and shooting, you mix calderon/brewer and deng/korver. you want some long-range bombers, you go rose, Calderon, Korver
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
He can't play SG next to Rose, do you know how badly he plays on defense? Epically bad. One of the worst in the league.
That’d be the worst defensive backcourt in the league when they were on the court together.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jeeze
it’d also be one of the best offensive back courts in the league. and it’s only TEN FREAKIN MINS. Less if the game calls for it. It’s not like he couldn’t handle being out there for 5-10 minutes when they’re going against… i dunno… Devin Harris and Courtney Lee.
Plus, if he’s in there, you give Boozer a rest and put Taj or Asik at the PF spot. That’s mad help D inside with Deng, Noah and Gibson/Asik.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Its awesome that we have a coach that
I trust to think along these lines next year.
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 16, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I should also point out that I don't think they will just give Calderon away. Colangelo loves him
and only planned to dump him earlier because he was getting Tyson Chandler AND Boris Diaw out of the deal. That’s a pretty steep drop off down to just James freakin Johnson. He’s not going to salary dump him.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
only three years
i do fully expect this team to compete for conference championships over the next three years, however.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Hinrich could only play SG
because he was to defend SGs. Calderon is not a good defender no matter what position he’s guarding.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
he also only uses about 17% possessions
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
He's terrible on defense.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
and he's awesome on offense
it’s 10 mpg, in a selected situation each game. not every team has four guards who are awesome offensively.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
His ORtgs have certainly been pretty great for a lower usage type guy.
I just think he’s too weak defensively to put in a backcourt rotation with Rose and Korver in it.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Jose Calderon?
Michael Jordan says: no.
by Dogfishhead on Jul 16, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
huh?
was that a schtick?
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
MJ vetoed trading for Jose Calderon
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
I don't have Korver in my backcourt rotation
I just don’t like it.
I do like the idea of not having to worry if Rose gets injured at any point in the next three years.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Meh if Rose goes down we're boned anyway. Calderon isn't going to make THAT big of a difference.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
i think it would
if rose misses 20 games in the middle of season, it’s not over. I’d rather finish 3rd or 4th and not nose-dive because eddie house is running the show than finish 6th or 7th and have an uphill battle every round of the playoffs.
to me, a few games difference is worth it.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Even if Rose missed most of the season
That team should grab a play off spot, unless other stuff goes wrong too. Then if Rose came back we’d at least have a shot. If not, at least its a little extra entertainment, and money in Reinsdorf’s pocket.
Main issue of course, is how well would it work when theyre both healthy
yeah, I guess not turning it over is defined skill
nor is “not aking bad shots” in a way. you don’t think he shoots well?
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
calderon
is probably the fourth most efficient offensive pg in the league, Hes a deadly free throw shooter, never takes a bad shot, and i think he was at some point leading the league in terms of asst:turnover, and that mightve been the year chris paul took the hornets into the playoffs…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
i like calderon, a lot
he’s super efficient-type shooter-pg, a bit like nash that way. (unfortunately, he’s paid almost as much, so one can’t exactly call him a poor man’s nash!) terrible defender too.
i’ve thought about this (too much, so thanks for nothin’ tyger), even to the point of wondering if it would help with the imagined acquisition of rudy (spanish jazz!). even to the point of trading my boy deng. but it’s just too much, i can’t see a way. maybe if tyrus was still around to play some 3, or a similar guy like anthony randolph.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
if you get rudy and calderon
you can always have brewer play sf
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
i know. i want more.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
I mean, I agree, it'd be bad defensively for those two together.
But again:
A) it’s only 10-15 mins max per game
B) you can sub in Taj for Boozer and have a very good defensive front court (what are the guards going to do after they get by those guys? pull up from 15 ft? they’re not getting to the rim)
C) you can choose, when Hinrich’s out there, put rose and calderon out there; when marquis Daniels is out there with Rondo, put rose adn calderon out there, etc.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
BC isn't going to salary dump Calderon. He likes him. He onluy tried to deal him because he was going to get two rotation guys
for him. (Diaw and Chandler).
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
As long as we get rid of JJ I'm with it
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I like this, BTW
but as I figured, we became much more ecstatic over Brewer signing if only because he was one of the last options.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think so, compared to JJ Redick
Defense over shooting? Heck, we needed both at that position, but getting both at this price range wasn’t going to happen. I do like the added athleticism to the team, I expect Brewer to be better on the break than Redick would be, and Thibs claimed we’d be a Defense+Rebounding→transition team (though every coach says that)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just hope Brewer isn't the Tony Allen type
who can make a lay up if left all alone
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 16, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
He's a better version of Allen
Bigger, more athletic.
by JSB on Jul 16, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
And he doesn't take stupid shots, from the looks of it.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 16, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
He really doesn't
Hollinger’s scouting report calls that one of his strengths, and that’s why he has such high shooting percentages..
by msquared10 on Jul 16, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brewer has much better handles and finishing ability in traffic than Tony Allen. His jump shot is better than TA's too.
He just can’t shoot from behind the arc because of a broken arm when he was a child.
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I tend to agree
I wanted them both. And at that price for Brewer I don’t understand why we didn’t snap him up a week ago. Unless Redick would have meant some sort of magical transformation where there would have been wide open lanes all over the place, Brewer probably makes the team better. With Redick we are unathletic at three positions. With Brewer we have elite top-of-their-position athletes at 3 of the 5 positions. Potential for some lock-down defense too.
maybe Brewer doesn't take this a week ago without the minutes guarantee
plus, there was not a lot of cap out there considering Redick’s first year offer. It’d have to literally all go to Brewer.
Hey, maybe we didn’t backload this contract either.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the starting gig was key
Looks like that was what Brewer valued above all else. That also means we aren’t going to get Mayo or Rudy or any other player that would need to start.
we could always lie to him in case those guys become more available :)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
we would never get Mayo
And even if Rudy comes Brewer will get a lot of minutes with Thibs
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 16, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
If the Bulls picked up Rudy
he would seem more suited to be that scoring option off the bench as a 6th man than brewer
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 16, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
And a backup Pg
He and Brewer on the floor with Korver, Gibson, Brad Miller would be a sweet second team to throw in when up by 15 in the second quarter.
Carlos has provided us with a great winter drinking game. Evertime Booze puts up a shot, you put one down.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 16, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I trust that Thibs means it...
Defense+Rebounding→transition team (though every coach says that)
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 16, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
We are going to need that big two in the East. He’s athletic. He can draw fouls. I’m thinking playoffs not regular season games. Playoffs is more of a grind.
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by Cap10_Kirk on Jul 16, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm looking forward to at least not seeing them walk out on the court overmatched physically
at the two
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
Plus, with Deng, they'll at least be able to match up on D with James and Wade.
I’m not going crazy here. I’m not saying they’ll shut them down, but I like our chances a little more.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 16, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don't see Deng ever really slowing down LeBron that much but
LeBron is supposed to be a facilitator/PG for them. However, with Brewer on Wade? Noah on Bosh? Lebron isn’t going to have nealy as much help as he expects he’ll have when matching up with us.
On top of that, we have a wildcard named Rose… our BEST offensive player who might be shootin’ threes come November.
Carlos has provided us with a great winter drinking game. Evertime Booze puts up a shot, you put one down.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 16, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Deng slows LBJ down.
He doesn’t stop him, but then, no one does
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Tom Thibodeau stops LeBron.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 16, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
i assume it'll be quite a different LBJ than we're used to.
should be interesting. the one-on-one matchup will likely be quite a bit less. he could easily be Magic Johnson on steroids.
Yeah but I think
Lebron and Antwon Jamison would beg to differ.
Deng kept LBJ away from the basket
He just made every damn outside shot against us.
by tuluse on Jul 16, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
They had no dunks...
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 16, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Don't remind me
I still wake up in a cold sweat muttering, “give him a little space, JJ”.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
I think the fact that he signed so quickly...
gives a lot of ammunition to the thought that we had him waiting in the wings all along. I think it’s pretty obvious that if Orlando matched we knew we were already going to get Brewer.
by BoxingHideout on Jul 16, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Seems like once we get these
guys we all calm down and realize the pluses of the pickups. Still need another shooter though but Brewer is young and has some talent. Good pickup.
I'd be fine with Almond
At this point a shooter that has the body of a SG is all we can ask for.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
Really the Bulls set the goalposts firmly last year
when they filled out the roster with Aaron Gray and Jannero Pargo.
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 16, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, they were like 10 yds away
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Ok this is growing on me
What’s next guys? Barnes maybe?
I'd be all for that
I think I read Bernstein called him a “live wire” which I think is perfect.
by dbrown25 on Jul 16, 2010 1:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Barnes says he's got a deal already
Just waiting for the reports to confirm it.
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by NBA Observer on Jul 16, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
From whom?
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Didn't say
but now he says two more teams in the mix.
http://twitter.com/matt_barnes22
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by NBA Observer on Jul 16, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
"The Decision," starring Matt Barnes. Coming to a local public access channel near you.
Or perhaps YouTube.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 16, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Ironically
Also hosted by Jim Gray.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
by NBA Observer on Jul 16, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
he's not very busy
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Soooo
11.8 – (12.5/3) = 7.6 million in cap space ?
Thats still enough to give Brad Miller all of it !
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 16, 2010 1:19 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Go after Eddie House, sign some sort of backup PG, bring back Brad with whatever's left.
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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 16, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
sounds solid to me
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
EDDIE HOUSE!
the pride of ASU!!!!!!!
plus he’s awesome on 2K
All I want in life is for UC fans to chant: Deeeeeloooonte during Heat games
Fuck his annoying ass is right.
"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub
Eddie house is a Point Guard...
Lol who is green thumbing these things??
lol, who has seen Eddie House handle the basketball?
I like watching teams that have more than 2 guys who can dribble, if you don’t then watch the Big 10.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 16, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm just saying
The idea of having a 6-1 SG as absolutely absurd!
I'd rather sign Jennifer lacy
6-3, 54% 3pt
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 16, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
jose calderon for james johnson!!!
brad at the vets minimum
do it!!!!!
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Rather have Dooling than House. House is the better shooter, but they need someone who can handle.
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we need a new BaB logo.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 16, 2010 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Well, jazz is more appropriate to Chicago anyway.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 16, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
ROSE -—
BREWER -— JJ
DENG – KORVER
BOOZER – TAJ
NOAH – ASIK -—
Thats looking a hell of alot better than last year!
Still Need:
Solid backup PG (preferably a vet)
Solid backup SG (preferably bogans imo)
Solid Back up C (B Millatime)
-remember, boozer can spell noah and vice versa. noah boozer taj can all help with minutes for the big men
JJ at shooting guard?
The guy’s 6’8’’, 235 lbs. That’s slightly ridiculous—in a few years, he’ll probably be playing the 4 more than the 3, anyway (since that’s usually how these things happen).
by msquared10 on Jul 16, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
i left that as a question mark spot
he has been playing the 2 in the summer league fyi
by livin21 on Jul 16, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
not well, he hasn't
There are really only two plays: Romeo and Juliet, and put the darn ball in the basket.
-- Abe Lemons
He has?
I don’t think JJ is playing SG.
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by NBA Observer on Jul 16, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
i'd rather get a shooter at the backup 2 (house)
than bogans.
There are really only two plays: Romeo and Juliet, and put the darn ball in the basket.
-- Abe Lemons
Bogans is good knocking down the
corner 3, your typical 1 spot on the floor shooter
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 16, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Eddie House is a PG!
He is 6-1 and 1-75 pounds… Why are so many people wanting him for the two.. Lol do some research!
all the better that he can handle the ball
but dude can shoot:
http://sportsblog.projo.com/2009/03/eddie-house-clo.html
There are really only two plays: Romeo and Juliet, and put the darn ball in the basket.
-- Abe Lemons
i see it as something like this right now:
Rose/?
Brewer/Korver
Deng/Korver/JJ
Boozer/Taj/Noah
Noah/Asik
i think our next move should be to try to get a 1/2 who can hit the three if possible (heh, barbosa would have been a good choice, or delonte if he weren’t totally nuts) – or at least… preferably a 1/2 but if a true PG then that’s OK.
and then another C like miller or kurt thomas. dunno if we’d be able to afford anyone else.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
jaina, please
delonte isn’t “totally nuts”, nor is he “batshit crazy”. he’s been diagnosed with bipolar personality disorder.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
i know
but i’m not the only one who have used those terms on this site, why am i getting singled out for it?
and not only that, but i know people who have the same diagnosis, and i dont see any of them riding a motorcycle with loaded guns and knives in their backpacks. just saying.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
dunno,
why am i getting singled out for it?
maybe it’s ‘cause you’re memorable?
bipolar diagnosis seems to cover a wide range. i’m not even 100% sure that is delonte’s diagnosis. memory tells me it was either that or manic depression, which is seemingly even more popular.
if i were you i wouldn’t worry about the bulls signing the problem guy. (are you seriously worried?) i wonder if the motorcycle alone wouldn’t be enough for them.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
bipolar
is the same as manic depressive… and yes as far as i know that’s what he was diagnosed with.
i’m not worried in the least about them signing the guy. i’d actually want him, honestly, i think he’d be a great fit for the team skill wise. and i actually thought it was awesome when he came out talking about his mental health issues. but i just question how much he actually has it under control.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
i see
i had it a bit backwards though. it’s really that i hear the term bipolar more often than manic.
it still seems quite widely diagnosed, with a wide variance in symptom adversity (if that’s proper wording).
ever see “the devil and daniel johnston”? now, that’s pretty scary! although as a artist he felt the meds hampered his creativity. not sure if delonte’s leveling meds hurt his basketball creativity though, and one would think he could be kept away from the likes of the butthole surfers amusing themselves by feeding him lsd.
i would like to see the bulls open to giving him a shot. it’s probably worth a fanpost to write up a stat table and minor essay, but for the unlikelihood vs effort (by me?). as of today’s news, the roster has a 7 man rotation. with one of 8/9 being an assumed backup big, leaving an estimated (by me) 18 minutes for a combo guard. a combo guard, not a backup point for 10 and a backup sg for another 10 (or less). they need one good all around guard because they’ll get more quality for the money spent, with maximum flexibility. delonte’s simply the best doing what it is the bulls need: defending both the 1/2, three point shooting, running the offense. posts up too.
i suppose my hypothetical fanpost would compare and contrast some likely suspects and show how close (or far) keyon dooling comes to filling the role. but i’m way lazy.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
yes
bipolar is a more common term now i believe, manic-depressive is the old term, but easy to see why they refer to the same thing, bi = 2, with the poles being manicism (? is that a word) and depression.
i haven’t seen that – i think it might be in my netflix queue though lol.
and yeah i hear ya on the lazy part. you def pinpointed exactly why (imo and obviously yours, ha) delonte would be perfect for us. i’m just not sold he’s in a good place mentally that he’d really be able to take care of himself right. i don’t mind giving a supposed bad apple a chance, as he seems to be fairly consistent on the floor. but i don’t see the bulls doing it.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
the daniel johnston doc is something else... highly recommended!
not on netflix streaming, unfortunately.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
I'm gonna stick wih batshit crazy
It’s a lot more fun than saying “We shouldn’t sign him because he’s been diagnosed with Bipolar personality disorder”
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 16, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did you see the police video of his arrest where he's driving all over the highway in his 3-wheel motorcycle?
Deng/Boozer/Noah: All your rebound are belong to us.
Are we at the point where we can't call crazy people crazy?
I’m not sure what the clinical diagnosis of his kind of crazy is, but i’m sure it fits under the umbrella.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
by runningman on Jul 16, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The correct term is 'differently sane'.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
most people with bipolar personality disorder
do not get arrested for carrying guns around.
in fact, being bipolar is an especially good reason to not carry guns around. so yes, i think it is okay to fault delonte west on this one.
So the Heat got LeBron. Thought of hittin' the Booze, but then I realized I don't give a Deng. We've got long Rose of banners and we'll be getting some more. You Noah I'm sayin?
by Osaka on Jul 16, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed. no problem with faulting, unless that means
no chance. again. forever.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
which has absolutely nothing to do with my post
by the way
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
calderon, calderon, calderon
I’m going to pound this one until they do something else as long as Sports2 and yfBB pounded Iggy and Monta ellis.
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it is
very
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Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Maybe that is why Tyger likes pounding him so much.
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 16, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's what...
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
Is Josh Howard still an option?
It’d be nice to have a scorer off the bench.
"Did Jordan join the Pistons? No, he stayed in Chicago until he beat the Pistons."
No
Not unless he is really cheap!! He brings nothing to the table except for maybe creating his own offense.. He shoots around 33% from 3 for his career so that isn’t good enough to justify signing him.
that's what Korver does off the bench.
you want to a guy who can create on his own for the second unit.
"I'm going to enjoy an apple in bed." - Derrick Rose
Then what is he good for?
Well if he cant create a 3 then he would back up brewer and deng. If he can’t shoot lights out from three then he is korvers back up. If he’s not athletic then he is james johnsons backup. When would this guy every play?
So now the question....
What is our #1 priority now?
I say back up PG
followed by back up SG
and then back up C
Backup SG
We need another shooter since Korver is still pretty much our only outside threat.
Although, Toliver or B Miller could suffice to an extent.
Carlos has provided us with a great winter drinking game. Evertime Booze puts up a shot, you put one down.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 16, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
Still really need another shooter. Would be great if Rose really can shoot the three now, but I don’t like walking into the season with only one guy that can make a three. A shooter and an guy who can play point 10 minutes off the bench and I think we’re set though.
by BoxingHideout on Jul 16, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
House or Mason Jr.
I tend to like Mason Jr. for his size, but House can get into some insane rhythms.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 16, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
With Brewer on board I would rather have House
House + Brad Miller + Keyon Dooling would be a nice bench.
I wouldn't mind House.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 16, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
when i was asking about house
towards the end of the season, people claimed he wasn’t really a PG and didn’t handle the ball too much…
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
House fills two needs
a Shooter from beyond the arc and a backup Point guard. We have to have a backup point guard to fill the roster and we desperately need another 3 point shooter… House fills the first need and as an added benefit, helps with the second.
House really can't play backup PG
The Celtics gave up that dream pretty quick
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, they pretty much just had to run Ray Allen as their point guard when Rondo was out and had House
run around as the undersized SG. It worked but only because Ray Allen is still freaking good.
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Who's left?
The Bulls obvious need is another ballhandler. We have our backup C in Asik, and Korver can be the backup SG.
Ramon Sessions is available in a salary dump.
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
calderon does both
and then miller at the vet minimum
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i know
who else will they get that’s better?
you can find two guys that do the same thing he does for the same price… but would be two people.
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He won't stop. It was a 6 months of Lee before this
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
because I think adding him and Miller
make this a worthy team of competition in the league.
They are prepared for injuries. They are balanced with both offense and defense. They have 3 pt shooting. Rebounding. Passing. Ball-handlers. Defenders. Shot-blockers.
It’s just an all-around very good, to great team. If Rose makes a leap and Thibs is a great coach, it’s a great team. Top 10 offense, top 5 defense.
Favored to be No. 2 in the easy and Top 5-8 overall. I can’t see it getting better than that.
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Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
We're not going after Calderon. The math is actually really simple.
Next year he makes more than we currently have in cap space. He’s not a combo guard, so all he would do is back up Rose.
Can we put this idea to rest?
Only if you learn math.
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Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I'd love for you to explain.
He makes $9M. We have around $8M in cap space. We still need to sign another guard and a big man.
Am I missing something, or are you just getting defensive because no one likes your new pet project?
Calderon at PG/SG
would be a disaster
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
please explain
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by tyger1147 on Jul 16, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
he would be a above average backup pg
but from what Ive seen from him he is nowhere near a SG. He is a pass first pg with a decent shot but I dont think he could play SG on either side of the ball. If Rose and Jose are on the court together Rose would be the SG. Jose is more of a distributor rather than a play maker. Plus his contract is a but much considering he would just be a backup to our best player. That smells of Kirk all over again but without the defense.
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
kirk was very good at defense
what “smelled” about kirk was how he didn’t put an iota of real pressure on a defense, and his mediocre scoring efficiency, especially in the clutch.
calderon averages 8.7ast/36 for his career, including a weak rookie year and last year’s friction with hedo. ast/to of 4.08(!) he can run a pick and roll offense! hit the nash-stick 50/40/90% once, and barely missed it twice more. you remember he only missed three fts all year two years ago? how many fts do you remember hinrich missing in the clutch?
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
his best year
he played 30 mins (starting 56/82), so the problem is: can he be effective as a backup, and would rose be too jerked around on his potential development as point guard by swinging over to the 2 a bit to make room.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
they send back james johnson
and they coud get other guys on minimums. You’re right. The math is quite simple.simple.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
BREWER
Turned down the C’s to join the bulls!
Suck it Boston
by livin21 on Jul 16, 2010 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
for once, a free agent chose money
I feel like wrongs have been righted.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
Because he wants to start
also because Korver recruit him to join the bulls
Brewer to Yahoo Sports
Brewer says Celtics offered similar $, but starting & re-joining Utah teammates Boozer, Korver were main draw. Utah never made strong run. 10 minutes ago via TweetDeck
“I got an opportunity to start (in Chi). Both (Chi and Bos) are storied programs. It came down to where I could excel more,” Brewer told Y!. 12 minutes ago via TweetDeck
Ronnie Brewer tells Y! Sports he turned down Boston offer to sign 3-year, $12.5 million deal with Bulls. Big pro for CHI was chance to start 14 minutes ago via TweetDeck
I will never doubt the Chairman again.
the Celtics couldn't have offered similar money
they didn’t have any exceptions.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Would have been a sign-and-trade
with Tony Allen (possibly), according to Marc Spears
I will never doubt the Chairman again.
ahhh
got it.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Just throwing this out there
I know a lot of us wanted Lee over Boozer, but it looks like Boozer played a role in convincing Korver and Brewer to join him. Maybe if we’d gotten Lee instead, we’d have Keith Bogans instead of Brewer and Eddie House instead of Korver?
Brad Miller is god.
Well if we had 11.8
And brewer’s is a minimally ascending contract
3.95, 4.15, 4.4
Just a hair less than 8 million.
Carlos has provided us with a great winter drinking game. Evertime Booze puts up a shot, you put one down.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 16, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
some were around 4,170,000 a season... $12,510,000
leaving us with about 7,630,000 For a
Backup PG
3 point shooter at the 2
A backup Center
We could possible sign a 3 point shooting one like Eddie House
THEY
are looking at mike boulton at backup point during summer league
Does he have the voice to make the team?
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by NBA Observer on Jul 16, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice
cheaper thatn redick and young. Let go bulls!!!!
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by Sir Buckets on Jul 16, 2010 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
And Rose for DWill
Thibs for Sloan!
JR for the dead car salesman
Ok, went too far
by Bill Cartwright's Elbow on Jul 16, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Possible FA backup PG's
rafer alston, carlos arroyo, will bynum, eddie house, acie law, sebastion telfair, jason williams, earl watson, pargo, chris quinn, travis diener
by livin21 on Jul 16, 2010 1:33 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh god, I was just thinking that
Looking through list of FAs “Who is a PG/SG the Bulls might add who can shoot the 3 somewhat, penetrate somewhat, and play defense somewhat?” Oh. Oh oh no.
by YaoPau on Jul 16, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No Telfair, Please!, this
guy can’t shoot for shit.
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 16, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like Telfair
It’s true, though, his shot is about as great as Ronnie Brewer’s 3pt … only his arm wasn’t broken.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
not that it matters
but Telfair is under contract to the Cavs. I’m sure they’d dump him on us ($2.7m) if we asked.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
First choice is Acie Law for me second Rafer Alston
by KDS22 on Jul 16, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rafer Alston's dumb ass shouldn't come anywhere near the Bulls
He’s a chucker, and he has an ego completely disproportionate to his skills. Recipe for disaster. Good defender, though.
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by Thom_not_Tom on Jul 16, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
diener please
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."
by boyonthedock on Jul 17, 2010 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions
we are going to crush the boards this year.
There are really only two plays: Romeo and Juliet, and put the darn ball in the basket.
-- Abe Lemons
werent we something like 3rd in the nba in rebounding last year?
we got rid of hirich – a reb. non-factor
and added BOOZER, KORVER, BREWER
wow
to be fair
korver is a rebounding nonfactor
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by cakezula on Jul 16, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
7th in DREB%, 16th in OREB%
man, wasn’t it like the opposite a season before?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Hinrich actually rebounds a little better than Brewer
size doesn’t automatically mean good rebounding
See: Andrea Bargnani
by darksmokepuncher on Jul 16, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Per game averages doesn't automatically mean better.
Career Reb rate
Brewer-6.6%
Hinrich-5.6%
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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 16, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You could also argue that rebound rates don't automatically mean better rebounder
because rebound rates are dependent on how many shots are actually missed.
On a team with a smaller amount of missed shots, its easier to have a higher rebound rate than it is on a team with a ton of missed shots (the bulls come to mind).
this is just going to go in circles though.
my point is just that I wouldn’t call Hinrich a non-factor in terms of rebounding and expect a significant upgrade from Brewer simply because he’s taller.
by darksmokepuncher on Jul 16, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I ignored the original claim that Hinrich was a non-factor at rebounding, he was decent for a guard.
From watching Brewer, I get the feeling he might not help too much on the defensive boards, but he hangs around to clean up misses.
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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 16, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Thibs might even have him
going back on defense early because of the great up front rebounding.
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 16, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Ozzie posted their Total Rebound Percentages...
Which is a stat that adjusts for how many shots are missed.
Brad Miller is god.
we're going to have to
to make up for the lack of 3-pointers
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Good Player, Good Price, GOOD
Fill out the bench and consider some trade deadline deals during the season. I like it.
Doesn't Korver have to start?
Not having a single 3 point shooter in the starting lineup will let teams pack it in on Rose/Boozer too easily.
by ap3604 on Jul 16, 2010 1:36 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Deng, dengdeng, deng deng (to the thong song rhythm)
Besides, if Rose and Deng can just sorta kinda hit the 3, we’ll be find spacing the floor. That’s what the Lakers did this year.
by YaoPau on Jul 16, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Deng certainly has the ability to hit 3s. He's just gotta step back a bit more.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 16, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll settle for him simply taking 3s.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Deng will be key
Most teams don’t have a Redick/Korver type bomber in their lineup. There aren’t that many of those guys in the league and most aren’t starting caliber. We should be ok.
The only thing I worry about
is the Bulls being below average at 3pt shooting AND drawing fouls. Normally a terrible combination. But if we can just be average offensively and good defensively..
Rose should get much better at that
I am hoping he develops in that department much like Devin Harris. I really think he misses out on 4 FT per game or so due to calls. He needs to use his body better to draw contact, but I am hoping those star calls will go up.
Throw in an actual offense designed to get plays at the rim and not just mid range jumpers, the drawing fouls should go up.
Actually
I am not too worried if their defense steps up. To me it’s about differentials. If they are not good at shooting threes, then they need to play good defense to prevent opponents from shooting threes well. Same with free throws.
Lakers were a strong example of that last year. Their FT rate was below average, but they didn’t send teams to the line often either. Even their eFG% was not that great, but their differential was top 10. If they won a championship with a middle of the road eFG% and FTR, combined with excellent rebounds and low turnovers, the Bulls can follow a similar recipe for success.
Dude..just gotta say
as along time Bulls fan, and going thru the suckage since 99’..it feels GOOD, real GOOD to know that we atleast dont have to worry bout gettin the 8th spot
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JJ+Boozer would make us a force...
…for a couple of years
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 16, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
To bad Atlanta
went out and paid JJ the GDP of a medium-sized nation, eh?
by kozzer on Jul 16, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sad to think about but true =(
by ap3604 on Jul 16, 2010 1:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Joe Johnson is an above-average player masquerading as a top-tier one
And his ball-dominance is detrimental to any team he plays on. The Bulls dodged a bullet on that one.
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by Thom_not_Tom on Jul 16, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
you were right on rafer above, tnt
but wrong on joe. (unless you mean at a $16.6mil max deal, not the initially reported $13mil one.)
how about iggy?
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Bulls should still try to trade for a sg
like Rudy Fernandez, Brewer is a good pick up but the bulls need a sg that can shoot from outside and hit 3’s
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When I linked to dimemag.com in the previous Redick post it brought in a trojan horse.
If anybody checked out the article on the 10 worst contracts, I suggest you run your virus program asap.
Happy with Brewer but the Bulls still need another long range gunner.
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by Tyrusmancrush on Jul 16, 2010 1:40 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
ugh, I'll delete it
didn’t click it, because it was RM’s Gordon delusion syndrome
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I like this signing!
I never thought he’d come so cheaply! Now we have good defenders to counter Wade and James (not that we’d stop them, but Deng and Brewer will make them work) and Taj coming off the bench + Noah should stop (yes I used that word) Chris Stupid Bosh.
Maybe all that’s not reasonable, but I’m excited for how this team is coming together!
That would be awesome if he puts up numbers like he did in 08-09.
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by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 16, 2010 1:40 PM CDT reply actions
Chris Duhon as a backup PG
wouldn’t have been a bad pickup not that I think of it.
Dhon only has range when he plays against golden state
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Brewer on Wade
Deng on James
Boozer/Noah on Bosh
I like.
eat. sleep. hoop. repeat. become legendary.
Very good matchups.
Obviously, the big 3 will get theirs, but this gives us a little more of a shot.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 16, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Noah can't guard bosh
He is the only guy we have right now to guard Big Z..We really need size at the Center!
There's a lamppost on my block that can guard Big Z, too.
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by ColonelFatheart on Jul 16, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions 10 recs
"We really need size at the Center!"
wut.
JoNo and Asik are both like… 7 ft. tall…
And god forbid we let Z get his lol
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by Sir Buckets on Jul 16, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah
He could get on one of those hot streaks and destroy the bulls offensively…or was that kobe…i can’t remember anymore. They’re just so similar
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 16, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Meh, Z works mostly from the outside anyway
He’s like a taller, balder, more Lithuanian version of B-Rad
by kozzer on Jul 16, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
With less ability to drive to the hole than Brad.
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
the bald
makes the eyebrow fake less effective
"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
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by boyonthedock on Jul 17, 2010 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Size
I can’t help but think any team we match up against is going to have a tough time in the paint.
Boozer is just such a big body to put next to Noah.
Brewer and Rose are a very athletic guard duo
Deng as we know is mightly long, korver is no shrimp himself
Taj coming off the bench with Asik a 7 footer!
I love the moves the Bulls have made, really surprised me with their aggressive nature
A 38 year Shaq was alot for Joakim to handle we need Some Lbs. at the Backup center
I agree with everything you said except I think we should not put pressure on Asik to produce rite away (unless he is that good)He needs the year to adjust to NBA and the USA .
and just in case Joakim’s planters fasciitis comes back.we need the 3rd option to fall back on
hopefully it will be Brad but kida hope it’s Shaq, for if any reason so Joakim wont have to guard him.
In any case
Asik is pretty skinny – so if you think we need bulk beyond what someone like Brad Miller can provide, I’m not sure who’s out there. Personally, I’d be very happy if they brought Miller back to round out the C spot.
I think Asik's like
265-270, and there were reports that he’s gained a lot of muscle since his injury last year…
I mean, he’s skinny compared to Shaq or Othello Harrington, but he’s not a twig or anything.
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Pictures I saw of him must have been from a couple years ago, then
Because he did look like a twig, or at least that’s how I remember it
I've alway's liked brad and if we where to bring him back i'd be fine with it
I just want them (GARPAX) to spend to rest of the cap in a out of the box way(Shaq,T-MAC)
I would rather have FLIP back as backup PG other than a summer league player too.and I hope we bring him back.
Was this because the refs?
The 3 fouls on Noah in a row?
We need to worry about Dwight Howard. And it is not all about size in defending Howard.
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by NBA Observer on Jul 16, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, if you don't have Kendrick Perkins-like strength
You need to have weight instead to stop Howard from backing you under the basket. Size is simply easier to find.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
the suns had no problem against howard and the magic with just amare, it's true!
the key was they were fast, once they got slower though….
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jo is gonna be bigger this year
thrust. i mean trust
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Why would we want barnes?
Ronnie brewer and Barnes are exactly the same size 6-7 227… Barnes isn’t a 3 point shooter…He won’t fill any needs….
by mazzimo on Jul 16, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Barnes fills the "nasty SOB" need
Seriously though, we probably don’t need him now. Need another shooter more.
Looking over the roster
isn’t the last guard going to be a ball handler?
If Rose, Brewer, Korver is the guard rotation then we are seriously lacking another ball handler.
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"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
He sucks,
all he can do is handle the ball, the man is pure trash.
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 16, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully a ball handler that can hit the 3
enough to keep defenses honest. And if they can play a little D, so much the better.
Acie Law or John Lucas
they’ll go cheap
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jul 16, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
If its between those two I'd want Lucas (3pt shooting).
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 16, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Him too I guess
we’ll see how the rest of summer league goes, I think since Lucas has been around the block a couple times he’d be a steadier player.
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 16, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope we keep Bouldin
But I still think we need a PG. I like Law over Lucas.
I want someone because I’m deathly afraid the club will bring back Pargo.
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by NBA Observer on Jul 16, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
What about Jeremy Pargo?
I know, I just blew your mind.
"I'm going to enjoy an apple in bed." - Derrick Rose
by E-Grizzle on Jul 16, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Janerro's bro
plays on some team’s summer league squadron
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Brewer is a good ball handler...
What we need is a pg that can hit a 3 for when rose if off the floor and brewer is on, and a SG that can hit a 3 for when he is on… Korver is a good 3 point shooter but we need to have 2 wing players that can shoot the three that can be on the court whenever needed.
Line Ups
Rose
Korver
Deng
Boozer
Noah
Bench
Possibly house
Brewer
James Johnson
Taj
Asik
Korver won't be starting
Brewer will
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
We finally have a running mate for D Rose
3 point shooting aside, he’s a lot better offensively than people are giving him credit for. His jumper looks weird because of a childhood injury to his elbow (I believe it’s the elbow) but he’s effective and doesn’t take many bad shots.
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What did we do..
with Flip Murray?
he came on at the end of the season
If by "came on" you mean shot under 40% from the field...
Then yes, he definitely did.
I'm on board for this one
I love this signing. We are tranformed from an undersizd team to a long, potentially excellent defensive team. If Rose and Deng improve their ability to knock down the 3 we are going to be a dangerous team. Hinrich cost more than both Brewer and Korver. No bad contracts here. The combination of Brewer and Korver is better than Hinrich (even though i like Hinrich). This is a winner.
What about marcus williams from memphis? kid was great for uconn in college and gets limited (14 or so) minutes for them
telfair, marcus williams
are you masochist or something?
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 16, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm happy with Brewer.
This is going to be an athletic team that kills on the boards. I’m anxious to see just how good we will be defensively with Thibs at the helm.
Check any youtube of Brewer…easy to see that this team will be even more fun in transition next season.
I like
how quote says “the Bulls have found their starting two guard.” No one can really say he’s a shooting guard; not a good one for that matter.
Jeff from Cleveland wrote- I've figured out the moral of the story: Stay in school. Wade: 3 years at Marquette, Bosh: 1 year at Georgia Tech, the kid from Akron: no college. The most educated guy convinced his dumber friends to come play on his team for less money.
Now all we need is Dan Gilbert to come out with a plan to make sure LBJ doesn't win
And the only I see the Cavs doing that is finding someone to break LeBron’s leg when MIA visits CLE
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 16, 2010 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
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by Sir Buckets on Jul 16, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Finally, something JJ is good at.
Isn’t his dad a former champion kickboxer?
JJ's an MMA athlete
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Good Lord, did Brewer really sign a 3 year deal with us this cheap?
If you woulda given me a choice between Brewer at this price or Redick at 20 mil over 3 years, it would have been a no brainer.
Brewer is a complete steal at this point.
The Bulls starting 5 is nearly a perfect team from a fantasy basketball perspective.
Every position fills major needs except 3 point shooting.
This team sure is gonna be that much funner to watch now with Brewer alongside Rose.
And to echo above, the matchups with the Heat are respectable now.
Still got money to fill in the depth chart.
And please, keep going after Rudy.
Brewer is making backup SG money. He’ll be fine with it!
by Option27 on Jul 16, 2010 1:55 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
It does seem quite the coup, doesn't it?
Brings a smile to my face, and optimism for this season. Cautious optimism, of course,
Now just bring in Keyon Dooling and Kurt Thomas or Brad Miller and we're all set.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Yes Dooling
That’s the first name I’ve seen that makes sense. I’d love to see him on this team next year.
Very solid combo guard who can slash a bit, handle a bit, and shoot a bit. Plus he's adequate defensively.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
is 3pt shooting that important?
I really like having Korver and I think adding another bench player like a eddie house or the like would be a great signing….I usually have agreed that we need a 3pt shooter in our starting lineup to help the floor spread, but looking over the last bulls 3-peat, we didn’t have a single 3pt threat in our starting lineup…in the 95-96 season, our lineup was harper, MJ, pippen, rodman, longley…MJ, harper, and pip all shot about 28% that season in 3’s…not good…so if we just have like korver and maybe a house type player off the bench, coulnd’t that be enough if we are efficient, push the ball, and play great defense?
You could just look up facts instead of making stuff up.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1996.html
Jordan-42.4%
Pippen-37.4%
Add in Kukoc, Kerr, and Buechler, that’s 5 guys who were capable of hitting the 3 during that season.
The 3-point shot is important to any successful offense, it has been for quite some time now.
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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 16, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I figured those original stats were wrong.
I want to say that the three point line was moved in for that season as well…which certainly played to the Bulls advantage that season.
It was moved in that year, a crapload of players set career highs in outside shooting.
Just look at MJ’s career 3-point shooting percentages, 95-96 is a giant anomaly.
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by Ozzie Montana on Jul 16, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
From ESPN
Rashad McCants has a sweet game, a clean record and plenty of run still left in him. So why can’t he get a job in the NBA?
It’s an insider… Anybody has the answer?
Because he's a headcase?
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
McCants
Took an invite from the Cavs to join their SL roster over waiting for a camp invite. He hasn’t played in 2 SL games. Expects to play in the last 3.
Apparently there is a huge knock on him around the league for having awful body language.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
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by NBA Observer on Jul 16, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Ronnie Brewer gives us everything that Andre Iguodola would have!
Except he’s like one third of the price!
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and is not as good at passing, rebounding and scoring
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 16, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
He is a poor man's Iguodala
But the difference between Brewer and Iguodala is a lot narrower than the difference between Iguodala and LeBron (don’t laugh I saw the comparison on this site).
by JSB on Jul 16, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also, we don't need much usage...
Brewer can provide those things almost as well, at much less price, and not dominate the ball as much…
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Sessions?
Korver and Brewer both bargains. Get depth. As a blog community, we are undervaluing the backup point guard position. Trade with Minnesota. Sessions as a salary dump maybe even Ellington (doubt it but that would be sweet?) Backup point guard for 4 million a year is a lot better than what they used to pay there backup point…
I would force the TWolves to give us a pick to take Sessions off their hands because they bungled that situation so badly.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah right?
They have Flynn, Ridnour, Sessions all making 4mil and above right now. They can’t carry that all season. Kahn is the worst GM in the league.
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 16, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Contract isn't that bad
2010/11 $3.964
2011/12 $4.257
2012/13 $4.551
Plus, its a 3 year deal.
They have 3 PGs all making that kind of scratch, one has to go. It's Sessions.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Positives
-24 year old backup
-Reasonable salary
-only 3 year deal
-has shown he can run the show
Negatives???
None. We would do well to get him. Derrick could easily coexist with Sessions.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
one drawback
is that it’d be another guard that can’t shoot
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
Ridnour would be a better choice. But it would take a complete retard to dump him days after signing him to a 4 year deal.
Lucky, David Kahn is just such a retard.
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
"That boy is BAD"- Stacey King.
heh, well even if wanted to
can’t trade new contracts until December
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
My dream scenario would be to trade a future first rounder or two for PG Rodrique Beaubouis.
This man is a future all star. Can drive, Pass, shoot the three (nearly 40%) last season. He could work wonderfully with brewer on the floor. Play rose at the 2 with him at the one and you have tow players that can drive pass and a great three point shooter at the point guard and have Korver on the wing.
Dallas is NOT letting that guy go!
So, a dream it shall remain
by kozzer on Jul 16, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha well I'm just sayin..get him for a couple of first rounds and a bad salary...
before he does actually start. and I can dream…we here at blog a bull dream of titles all the time…do we not?
Beaubouis is not going anywhere.
He is actually probably going to start for Dallas
Another option to trade for that nobody is talking about is jarret Jack.
He is cheaper then Caulderon, can drive the paint better and Shoots around 40% from three. Caulderon is just waaaayyy to much for a backup point guard and completely eliminates our ability to get a 3 point specialist at SG and another backup center.
True but he isn't the starter right now
and he would be a great option for us…I think the most important thing right now is to find a Shooter wherever it may be..at the one or two…
Who has a list of the 2013 free agents?
by Option27 on Jul 16, 2010 2:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
no, it won't
they’ll all sign extensions next year
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Chris Paul won't.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
that's true
All =/= everyone in my book
hah
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
we will have a chance until we don't
and they we’ll say we had no chance
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep, this is all very weird
i’d expect them to sign 2 years contracts so they can re-hire Kirk.
But maybe they will work a sign and trade with all those expirings
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 16, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really reminds me of a more athletic guard version of Luol Deng cause they both have huge wing spans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIgFIWyU_Og
i dare you to move.
Yep. Pretty good comparison. Or the guard version of Iguodala.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Those steals are awesome.
He just explodes into passing lanes. I’m getting more an more excited about this signing the more YouTube highlight reels I watch.
Does anyone know anything about Trent Plainstad?
Could he fill the last Big man on the team role? Obviously I’d prefer Miller, but I think he’s going to Houston from the sounds of things.
I'd watch every game.
Jessica Alba, there’s a towel twirler I could get used to watching. Alba>>>Gray
So the Heat got LeBron. Thought of hittin' the Booze, but then I realized I don't give a Deng. We've got long Rose of banners and we'll be getting some more. You Noah I'm sayin?
Brewer
Some really good points:
1. Played on a winning team
2. Experience with a good pg (d will), will fit right in with d rose
3. Fans loved him
-on any jazz sight, you tube vid, etc. about brewer the fans comments all were about how brewer was going to be missed in utah. i think thats a positive sign. he plays hard, and knows how to get things done. he is a scrappy defender and a guy people enjoy having on their team
nothing but positives from me for brewer
And from Sam Smith's article:
Deron Williams, the Jazz’ All-Star guard, was particularly upset with the Jazz last season over the trade of Brewer and mostly refused to comment, saying, "I have nothing good to say about it."
I like everything about this guy – his athleticism, ability to defend, and especially his price tag.
3 million less than Reidck in yr one
means three more to spend on a backup SG… Luther head?
Carlos has provided us with a great winter drinking game. Evertime Booze puts up a shot, you put one down.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 16, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
What is heads deal?
“Failed” a physical or something? i would love for luth to come back to illinois
They used his physical as an excuse to back out
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
- fundamentallysound
Which is good for us..
Any bad feedback on a player is good for bulls contract negotiations
Damn! Just noticed: another bad FT shooter
who will shoot our technicals
I imagine tyger votes for Calderon
Noah.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 16, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Korver will shoot technicals. If not him, then Derrick.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
can't call 2 players on 1 since you can't play with 6 on court
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 16, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Brewer is a better player than Kirk by himself. So there's that.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
He'd be wrong, so that's too bad.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
He's better at some things, not as good at others
So it really depends on what a team is looking for. He’s a good pick up, considering what’s out there.
I'd say on the whole, he's better.
Far more efficient player. Better rebounder. Probably a bit better defender because of the versatility that his athleticism gives him over Kirk. Obviously Kirk is the better shooter and passer and ball handler.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 16, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
He is more efficient, but that's because of their styles of game
He’s much better at the rim than Kirk, and those baskets make a huge difference. Ignoring his time served in Memphis, last season over 50% of his shot attempts were “inside,” with an eFG% of 65.2%. Blows Kirk’s 48.6% inside out of the water, absolutely. But Kirk only attempted 14% of his shots inside.
47% of Brewer’s attempts were jump shots, and on those he hit at an eFG% of only 33.8%. Even in what was considered a horrible shooting year for Kirk, he kills Brewer there. Rebounding is pretty close, especially when you consider what Kirk gives up in height and athleticism. He does have more physical ability to be a good defender, and I like his defense – but that’s offset some by needing yet another guy on the roster for backup PG duties. In spite of playing inside more, he doesn’t shoot a lot of free throws, and he doesn’t shoot them well.
It’s really irrelevant, because Brewer is both cheap and available to the Bulls, neither of which Kirk is. On the other hand, for all the talk about needing good shooting to spread the floor, we’re going to have to sit our presumptive starting SG to get his backup on the court.
by wjb1492 on Jul 16, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It looks like the Bulls screwed up big time in making an offer to Redick.
They could have signed Morrow (a true backup since he literally has no value outside the jumpshot) and Brewer.
We’ll probably end up with a guy like Roger Mason or House so it won’t be a huge drop-off. Also, I’m on year 3 of believing Luol Deng can start hitting 3-pointers.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 16, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I have endless faith that Lu can hit them
I’m a little shaky on whether he’ll actually take the shots. ;)
Maybe they could set up one of those invisible fences at the arc during practices, so Lu gets zapped every time he steps just inside the line and lets it fly…
But if the sum...
Of both players brings more overall value to the team, then you can. Not to mention the extra money.
Someday we'll go all the way...
by CubsBullsBears on Jul 16, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I haven't seen the contract breakdowns for either
Are they collectively cheaper than Kirk this season? It’s $27.5 mil over 3 years, so it’s got to be close.
yup, 7:30
a new thread will be up then
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
How bout this trade...
James Johnson + charlottes 1st round pick + $3 mil FOR Rudy Fernandez and Jerryd Bayless
Not sure why Portland would do that
but I think the Bulls would jump all over that if it were possible
I think you'd be lucky to get just Fernandez for that
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, i figured it was heavily in bulls favor
but remember the rumors of portland wanting to include bayless in trade for deng….dont know how valid that trade was though
Probably not much to it.
Plus, they’ve signed Matthews so they’re another team that has no interest in taking Deng’s contract.
Fernandez isn't happy in Portland...
Which is a factor, but I’ve heard he wants to go back to Spain, so I’m not sure he wants to play here either. I’d think CHA’s first round would get Fernandez if he was willing to play here.
Does anyone want James Johnson right now?
From espn chi
It’s a three-year deal worth $12.5 million, although the third year is not guaranteed.
That much better I suppose
Wow
Did Gar negotiate that?
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
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by NBA Observer on Jul 16, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
CJ Watson is still available I think
I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen him play, but his stats are nice. Career 13.8 PER, .556 TS%, 35% from 3, 1.9 steals per 36. DraftExpress says he’s great defensively, he looks really athletic and he was great at scoring inside last year. I dunno, anyone know much about him? Seems like a good complement to what Rose brings.
by YaoPau on Jul 16, 2010 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I like Watson
but I think, given who the Bulls already have, he’s not a good enough shooter. Though you could certainly do worse than his 2.1 steals per 36 minutes. And he’s pretty decent at handling the ball, though he needs to work on his passing.
BoozER, KorvER, OmER, BrewER.
We need to stop discussing players whose name doesn’t end in -ER…
I’m kinda hoping the -ER can be somwhere IN the name though. Keeps FERnandez in play…
by BAB-Bass on Jul 16, 2010 4:21 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
How about Goo-BER?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 16, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Well it doesn't END in ER
But I’ll head to the Emergency Room for a heart attack if I see Pargo suit up this year
by Stacey_Is_King on Jul 16, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I say thumbs up to Brewer
Brewer is a bigger, more athletic and better defender than Hinrich. He’s quite a bit worse than most of our players offensively. He does have a nice first step though.
Still, I’ll give this deal a mild thumbs up. As far as use of cap space goes, 3yrs and $12.5M is a decent deal for one of the league’s better wing defenders.
We might still be able to swing a trade for a major player if we wanted, although by front loading deals, the Bulls are signally that they hate the idea of actually trying to win anything. So even if we can, we won’t.
Given that, Brewer is the closest approximation we could get to the defensive super-team strategy I think is the best we could hope to employ against the Heat. Maybe Rose and Deng get good enough at shooting the three we keep opponents honest on offense anyway.
Also, he can probably fill in at the 3, so if we find a good deal for Luol, we’re not totally boned there.
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by Sports2 on Jul 16, 2010 4:35 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
What I like about Brewer is that he can score without the ball.
From what I’ve seen of him in Utah, he’s perfectly happy getting his points in the flow of his offense off of cuts, lobs, curls, etc. In contrast, Hinrich and Gordon were both most effective with the ball in their hands. Brewer brings more to the table defensively than either of those guys and can get us an efficient 13 or so ppg. He also is a great running mate with Derrick, something he’s been lacking since he’s been a Bull. Luol, Ben, Kirk and the rest of the guards and forwards we’ve had were horrible on the break.
classic!
he can score without the ball
by LeBryaneWosh on Jul 16, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I knew I was gonna get a comment for wording it like that.
“be effective off of the ball” would have been better.
He's magical!
I heard he can also hit a home run without a bat.
by pooriejay on Jul 16, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahahahaha
"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub
Last 3 seasons:
Player A: 15.9 PER, .572 TS%, 4.6 OREB%, 11.0 AST%, 9.5 TOV%, 17.1 USG%
Player B: 16.0 PER, .525 TS%, 6.0 OREB%, 10.4 AST%, 10.3 TO%, 22.0 USG%
A is Brewer, B is Deng. I don’t think Brewer is bad offensively. He’s limited by his jumpshot, but he won’t hurt you, his passing has improved, and his steal rate should mean a couple easy buckets a game. Factor in his defense and I think it’s a phenomenal signing, just wish it was for more years. I’d think 25 year old 16 PER players with very good defense are worth $10-12 mil per year, not $4.
by YaoPau on Jul 16, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 10 recs
or maybe Deng is worth $6 million a year
YaoPau good comparsion!
"Maybe Paxson influenced has been a bit silenced :-)"
by exult463 on Jul 16, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Rec'd
Although I think the percentage numbers understate how much better and more versatile Luol is on defense. Brewer is in Tyson Chandler/Tyrus Thomas territory on his jumpers, so it is an issue. While Deng is very good when he’s set up in his (longer) range.
On the other hand, Brewer is legitimately good at taking it to the hole, and Deng sucks at that.
I’m more than willing to give him a shot though.
BullsTwo > Back up and running!
If this dude story's legit then weve gotta be stoked
hope it is
the first one on the page
link below
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=510513
Well this Brewer kid looks good on his 08-09 highlights on Youtube
Good defense and steals in the passing lanes. Dunks well and has a decent mid range jumper. No assists but that’s Derrick’s job anyway.
DONT
forget brewer,korver,booz already know each others game
I think the Celtics, if they manage their minutes in preparation for the playoffs, will still be a tough out.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 16, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Everyone forgets about Orlando
Who’s guarding Dwight on Miami? Bosh? LLgauskus? It helps Orlando that their biggest strength is Miami’s greatest weakness.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
Ronnie Brewer according to Yahoo
"I got a chip on my shoulder to prove myself to the Bulls and everyone else," Brewer said. "We’ll have a great team."
i dare you to move.
by dannyp07 on Jul 16, 2010 5:04 PM CDT reply actions 8 recs
THATS WHATS UP!!!!!!!!!
All I want in life is for UC fans to chant: Deeeeeloooonte during Heat games
Bulls are ballin'!!!!!!!!
"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub
he can score
if a defender loses him, he’ll punish him with a mid range jumper or a slashing move to the basket (excellent finisher).
"Maybe Paxson influenced has been a bit silenced :-)"
Look who is passing to him
Not a Deron Williams passer among them, but they’re pretty good in Rose, Deng, Boozer, and Noah.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
by NBA Observer on Jul 16, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Sweeettttt
Besides the 3 headed monster….(A deal that everyone thinks was preconceived and it probably was…)Besides that, Gar and company has been stellar….
Is it me,or do the Packers really suck???
by I love football! on Jul 16, 2010 5:16 PM CDT reply actions
To be honest...
When you look at all the ridiculous contracts this summer, the Bulls have made 3 solid deals. Neither Boozer, Korver, or Brewers contracts have been too high. I hope they can still pull a deal for a scoring backup SG but otherwise i’m content.
what about Almond?
isnt he like a poor mans Joe Johnson?
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
More like a homeless Joe Johnson.
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 16, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
okay me and my bro are trying to predict the bulls roster going into 2010-2011
this is where we are at
rose/lucas
Brewer/Korver/Almond
Deng/JJ/Korver
Boozer/Taj
Noah/Asik
who else do you guys think the bulls are gonna sign? Does hinrich clone get a shot? Didnt the bulls get the rights to another international forward who is a great mid range shooter (and like 6’10)
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
a quick update
rose/lucas
brewer/Almond/bogans
Deng/JJ/Korver
Boozer/Taj
Noah/Asik
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Does Korver play?
The 6’10 guys is Vladimir Veremeenko. He’s not good enough to play in the NBA.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
by NBA Observer on Jul 16, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I imagine Korver will play SG
He played a lot of it on the Jazz last year
yea hes just a 3 pt specialist
i imagine you can fit him anywhere and its the same result…3 pt shooting, bad defense….
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Bouldin will be our back-up pt.
Rose, Bouldin
Brewer, Korver
Deng, Korver, JJ
Boozer, Taj, JJ
Noah, Asik, Corpse of Brad Miller
Remember, we need to carry 15 guys, with 12 active.
"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub
13 with 12 active, but I agree with your prediction.
We need two more. Should go into the trade deadline with $5 million in cap space.
What kinda minutes are Taj and JJ going to get?
Did they get stronger?
Who did they workout with this summer? Grover?
"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub
Since Tyger's pimping for Calderon
I’m gonna keep pimping Henry, cheap ass Heisley doesn’t want to pay the poor kid. He definitely can come off the bench behind Brewer and provide some shooting and still play good D
Cavs Get: PG Mike Conley from Memphis and SF James Johnson from Chicago
Grizz Get : PF Anderson Varajeo from Cleveland, 1st round pick, and $3 mil from Chicago
Bulls Get: Rights to SG Xavier Henry, SF Jamario Moon, and 2nd rounder from Memphis
I think everyone gets what they want out of this deal
I dont think this works
Cleveland wont trade Varajeo unless Dan Gilbert comes off of his delusion’s of knocking of the heat.
Memphis, I don’t see them taking on the money owed to Varajeo. They have Randolph, Gasol and Thabeet making a lot of their payroll and taking up minutes. They also can’t just dump Conley until theyre sure Mayo will work.
Alston?
Career 3-point percentage: .354
House: .390
Maybe that’s a bigger difference than it seems, but doesn’t Rafer bring a bit more in everything else to a back-up PG role?
I'd rather have Dooling than Alston
Dooling isn’t a sieve on defense and he is a career 35% 3PT shooter. If we are going for pure offense off the bench can’t really beat Eddie House.
we need a defensive pg....
its always good to have versatility (obviously) so if we have a stellar offensive pg, id like to have a good defensive pg come off the bench…ditto for all other positions. For sg i think we have pretty much the right depth, especially if we sign keith bogans, with basically a stellar defender, a pure shooter, and a solid defender/shooter, at sf we might have a bit more of a problematic stretch (although i figure brewer can fill in during a pinch) since our backup is primarily JJ, who still seems not ready. Pf is set with Boozer and taj, and i am fine with center with noah and asik (although they are pretty similar). It would be nice to have one more sg/sf and maybe one more big with a defensive pg.
Basically say we play a team with a stellar pg, like the hornets, or even the nets. If rose needs a break it causes our offense to take a huge hit, but if a chris paul like player is still in the game, not only are we not scoring many points on offense, but that pg might continue to punish us…instead id rather have a defensive minded pg to step in for rose (since the rest of our roster seem like solid defenders, so that while we may not have our best offense in the game, the other team also wont be able to easily score with their pg.
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
No
Having been a Rockets fan for a while, I can tell you that Rafer Alston is the opposite of what you want in a basketball player.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
He turns into Jannero Pargo at the oddest times.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Kyrlo Fesenko next?
his the only freeagent left from utah and the bulls do need a center
lol, he is serviceable though
chicago jazz, now playin
by Juan dela Cruz on Jul 16, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Украина является лучшей!
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
by marionette on Jul 16, 2010 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
When Bosh,Wade and Jame's told GARPAXDORF to go "JAZZ " themselves I didn't think they really would
After thinking on it I have no beef with our version of the friend’s club Utah style
the Bull’s will be 2 real next season
NO BEEF FOR YOU!
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
The Jazzy Bulls vs. The YaYa Sisterhood
Eastern Conference Finals. ;-)
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jul 16, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
funny that we're paying brewer
less than we’re paying his backup…
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
by Jaina on Jul 16, 2010 10:08 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I noticed that too....
Well, he picked a bad year to have his worst career PER, and Korver picked a great time to have his 2nd best. Hopefully, Brewer bounces back and earns a big contract when he turns 28.
Just thinking...
Final minute and a half of a tight ball game, time out at nearly every possession (and many NBA games end this way), really like the Bulls line-up both ways:
offense:Rose, Korver, Deng, Boozer, Noah
defense: Rose, Brewer, Deng, Taj, Noah
That defensive unit will really be able to swarm all over the court.
Yeah, Taj gets to back up Boozer
which means he can fulfill his natural tendency to foul out in 15 minutes without hurting us too much.
So the Heat got LeBron. Thought of hittin' the Booze, but then I realized I don't give a Deng. We've got long Rose of banners and we'll be getting some more. You Noah I'm sayin?
I dont get this comment
He averaged 26 minutes a game in his rookie season and managed solid per 40 minute numbers. I’d say with is aggressive defensive and rebounding tendencies, the foul trouble he would get into was reasonable.
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on Jul 16, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
He averaged 4.6 per 36 minutes which wasn't that bad in the grand scheme
It rarely kept him out of games.
Noah averaged 4.4 per 36 in his second year, and that dropped down to 3.7 last year. Seeing as how Taj was just a rookie, there’s no reason to believe he won’t improve his foul rate, both by getting smarter and by the refs getting to know him.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
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