Bulls Nuggets Summer League Thread
by dakoose on Jul 13, 2010 3:05 PM CDT
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Print[From the FanPosts. How dare the Kyle Korver press conference overshadow this.
Here's an update from David Thorpe (via commenter RM's destroyed fanshot): "@coachthorpe James Johnson looks far more conditioned and focused than he did last year." So that's good. Lots more on the rest of the roster here from Sham, and here from CSN's Aggrey Sam. -ed.]
I didn't see one so I'm making one. So far Byars looks good. And WTF, JR Smith is in the summer league?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 13, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha
kevinarnovitz James Johnson’s summer league teammates spend a lot of time in the half court telling him where to set up.
James Johnson with a big time finsh.
I like the left hand.
Ty Lawson and JR Smith playing is unfair
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 13, 2010 3:14 PM CDT reply actions
usually really good rookies don't play
i would count him as a really good rookie
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 13, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe he means guys who were really good as rookies.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
He never misses
an opportunity to chuck up shots.
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 13, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Lawson looked pretty good last year when he got to play
his per36 numbers are nice, for a rookie:
15 pts
5.6 ast
1.3 stl
3.4 reb
51% fg
41% 3fg
Yea i watched him alot last year
looked great…sucks, we could really use him this year…
DA CUBS DA BEARS DA BULLS
Yeah, but it was a fantastic pick for Denver
he’ll be ready to take the reins once CBill starts declining
Starts?
I think he began that towards the end of the season last year.
Jeff from Cleveland wrote- I've figured out the moral of the story: Stay in school. Wade: 3 years at Marquette, Bosh: 1 year at Georgia Tech, the kid from Akron: no college. The most educated guy convinced his dumber friends to come play on his team for less money.
good job timberwolves
you took all the crappy point guards, and the good one you took, you decided to trade to Denver!
KAAAAAAAAAAAHHHNNNNN!!!
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
that was an absolutely horrible call against Samuels
he got killed
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 13, 2010 3:27 PM CDT reply actions
btw
i think Samuels looks like the best Bull prospect out there (i missed Byars appearance)
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 13, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
we are getting raped on calls
looks like a prelude to us playing the heat this year.
DA CUBS DA BEARS DA BULLS
JJ
@coachthorpe James Johnson looks far more conditioned and focused than he did last year.
why do the Bulls refuse to play JJ at the 4?
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 13, 2010 3:32 PM CDT reply actions
I don't think it would go to good for them, he's a little small for the 4
"Vinny think, THINK!" - Some knowledgeable fan
by him_joke_NOAHmore on Jul 13, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
he is never going to be a starter
but as a back up 4 maybe he has a chance to be effective
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 13, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to see if he could at least defend 2 guards
to compliment the other (offensive) players the bulls are signing at SG
"Vinny think, THINK!" - Some knowledgeable fan
by him_joke_NOAHmore on Jul 13, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
C'Mon young Bulls (Calfs?)
Just because Vinny’s gone doesn’t mean you can’t play with THRUST!
"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."
by windycitywarrior on Jul 13, 2010 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Holy shit these announcers are annoying
its 2 bad i cant tell whats going on and need them to understand which guy is which.
DA CUBS DA BEARS DA BULLS
by Rudey on Jul 13, 2010 3:34 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Nope
"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."
by windycitywarrior on Jul 13, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
his hands aren't looking great so far
"Vinny think, THINK!" - Some knowledgeable fan
by him_joke_NOAHmore on Jul 13, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
how many fouls again in summer league?
"Vinny think, THINK!" - Some knowledgeable fan
by him_joke_NOAHmore on Jul 13, 2010 3:42 PM CDT reply actions
I thought it was unlimited...
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
i think I remember Taj fouling out of a summer league game last year
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 13, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
NBA TV
You aren’t missing much though. Bulls are getting destroyed.
"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."
by windycitywarrior on Jul 13, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Summer league just isn't much fun when you don't have rookies to be excited about
Seeing JJ was fun for the first few minutes, but not worth watching the entire game.
(Especially not this one!)
it does suck to have no rookies this year
"Vinny think, THINK!" - Some knowledgeable fan
by him_joke_NOAHmore on Jul 13, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
What are you talking about...?
There are a ton of rookies out there…John Lucas looks like he can play a bit…Matt Bouldin has not looked terrible…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
no drafted rookies
"Vinny think, THINK!" - Some knowledgeable fan
by him_joke_NOAHmore on Jul 13, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
John Lucas had a nasty 3
All I want in life is for UC fans to chant: Deeeeeloooonte during Heat games
Not if JJ has anything to say about it.
"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."
by windycitywarrior on Jul 13, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
George Karl deserves a shot in the finals
All I want in life is for UC fans to chant: Deeeeeloooonte during Heat games
by Belize on Jul 13, 2010 3:47 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
We just signed Asik
it doesn’t pertain to this game, but figured it worth a mention.
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
"That boy is BAD"- Stacey King.
sweet. what are the numbers?
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Terms undisclosed
per team policy.
http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=6211
Not the most reputable source, but I trust it.
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
"That boy is BAD"- Stacey King.
I like Samardo Samuels
I got the skills to pay the bills and that's about it
by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 13, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude can shoot it, but can he do much else?
Still, we’re going to need somebody to back up Rose
I would prefer Acie Law or Shaun Livingston
but Lucas is giving himself a shot with his play.
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
"That boy is BAD"- Stacey King.
Think of him as this season's version of Acie Law...
In long pants on the bench more often than short pants.
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
JJ
looks like he spent the entire summer working out instead of shaving.
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
"That boy is BAD"- Stacey King.
by Cosmis on Jul 13, 2010 3:58 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
thats fine with me
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
He's got what I call a "Devious Wizard" beard
"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."
by windycitywarrior on Jul 13, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that because of those devious Wizards who had that beard contest?
(Gooden and Stevenson, I think)
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
n/m Gooden obviously wasn't a wizard
shit
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Why
is J.R. Smith playing today?
That was ridiculous.
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
"That boy is BAD"- Stacey King.
He never passes
up a chance to get his gun on, wether it be summer league, pre-season, or regular season.
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 13, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Chris Richard is pretty terrible.
"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."
by windycitywarrior on Jul 13, 2010 4:00 PM CDT reply actions
yep
"Vinny think, THINK!" - Some knowledgeable fan
by him_joke_NOAHmore on Jul 13, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
and the bulls love him
he’ll make it over samuels
he must say yessir and nosir a lot
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Jul 13, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Samardo Samuels
is the exact same size with a significantly higher skill level
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
"That boy is BAD"- Stacey King.
JR cause he's too good
I haven’t seen much of JJ, cause I just tuned in.
by Stacey_Is_King on Jul 13, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I'm glad Kyle Korver is our back up 2/3.
I’ll leave it at that.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
by MPG on Jul 13, 2010 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
if Rose was there watching for support....
he whould of put his GEAR on and get us back in the GAME.
by RED_BULL on Jul 13, 2010 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
he'd leave...and wouln't be a bad teammate for doing it
"Vinny think, THINK!" - Some knowledgeable fan
by him_joke_NOAHmore on Jul 13, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol I'd like to see Rose come out here and just clown these guys.
by Stacey_Is_King on Jul 13, 2010 4:05 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
how almond fare?
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
hasn't done anything
but he’s only played a couple minutes
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
"That boy is BAD"- Stacey King.
I like Jack McClinton
if only because of his name.
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
"That boy is BAD"- Stacey King.
Dude is like Eddie House
He can absolutely fill it up when he’s hot, but like House he’s too short for his position
Don't think he was in the league last year
He may have been on a roster, but I don’t think he played.
I like Matt Bouldin
Because he looks like a giant Frodo Baggins.
"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."
by windycitywarrior on Jul 13, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Johnson sure does look like he's in better shape
Game doesn’t look much different though
by Grinder in Training on Jul 13, 2010 4:12 PM CDT reply actions
And committing unnecessary fouls
By being out of place / not knowing what he’s doing.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 13, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
He's a lot like he was in college...
Capable of pretty much anything on the floor, but doesn’t really know how to put it together.
Wow, that's an ugly shot by Almond...
but it went in nicely
JJ isnt a star, he is a role player. It appears as though the bulls are lookin to him to carry this summer league team – not going to happen.
Bouldin, John Lucas, Almond etc. need to try to prove something. Make some plays. Dont look for JJ. He will get his in the flow of the game
BAD first showing from the bulls. hoping to see a point guard form out of lucas though
Yeah, none of these guys look like they deserve meaningful minutes...
I wouldn’t mind seeing Samuels get carried at the minimum as a 13th/14th man, with the hope that he can develop over time.
Trent Plaisted
certainly isn’t lacking in effort.
"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
"That boy is BAD"- Stacey King.
WHY DO WE HAVE
Oglivy on this roster? We cant scrap a big center from the D League over this?
by livin21 on Jul 13, 2010 4:17 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
It looks a lot worse than it is me thinks.
We’re severely overmatched talent wise this game.
"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."
by windycitywarrior on Jul 13, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
This was also our first game. Denver's already played like five of them.
No rust for the Nuggets, tons of rust on us.
They also (to the best of my knowledge) have won all of the games they've played (Including this one)
So while I agree that our squad is rusty, my point still stands.
"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."
by windycitywarrior on Jul 13, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't being severely overmatched worse though?
I mean a lack of talent can’t be fixed. You say it’s not as bad as it looks, but if it looks bad because we aren’t as talented, I would consider that a pretty big problem. It’s one thing if they are rusty or not used to playing with each other.
I realize none of these guys outside of Johnson are really expected to contribute so I guess it doesn’t really matter.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 14, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that does sound a bit contradicting.
I guess what I’m trying to say is they looked completely terrible in contrast to the good Nuggets squad that was out there. They’re still awful, but they won’t be playing teams like that every game. They’ll have better games (I hope?)
I do agree with you that JJ is is the only guy that’s expected to contribute, and I doubt we’ll be talking a lot about Summer League when it’s over.
"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."
by windycitywarrior on Jul 14, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Bouldin looks pretty good
even though he’s passing to bunch of scraps. This the Nuggets 4th SL game and our first. It shows.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
by NBA Observer on Jul 13, 2010 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Almond looks better than the scrubs on the floor...
he can score against inferior competition.
Bouldin
Is a smart player. Doesnt turn the ball over and can hit shots. I really dont mind seeing him as the 3rd pg… and hoping he can develop
Does anyone think John Lucas can back up Rose?
I don't think Lucas is a backup PG on a good team...
I think he’s a fringe roster player.
I think we can find a veteran for the minimum or close to it...
someone that can play defense and run the offense for cheap.
Lucas had a nice shooting game, but that’s about all he did. There has to be a better option.
There are
better options, Lucas is a career 13-15th man on an NBA roster
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 13, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Nate Roberstson, Acie Law
Earl Boykins ? Will Bynum ? There are still some PGs left.
by JockstrapNoah on Jul 13, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
There are probably any number of veterans available...
Lucas would be WAY down on the list.
no,
he’s tiny, and i question his ability at getting into the lane. Granted I’m only going off of what I’ve seen this game.
by BigBabyCollin on Jul 13, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
where is Joe Alexander?
I was kind of excited to see him play
Injured I think...
was originally on the roster
James Johnson actually looked better
last year
I met one of Hinrich's Professor's at Kansas, but he never met Hinrich.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 13, 2010 4:28 PM CDT reply actions
Well
I hope this is a wake up call for our summer team. I would have liked to see a little more passion out there. Granted, its summer league but we dont have a full roster. These guys are fighting for potential spots. Hell, i wouldnt even sign JJ who some think to be our 7th-8th man!!!
I don't think anybody on this team will be more than a 10th man for us...
I expect Korver, Gibson, Asik (or Brad Miller), and a veteran PG to play the meaningful bench minutes. Johnson was the only guy on the roster who has a shot at regular minutes, and even he has a numbers crunch with Deng and Korver ahead of him at SF and Boozer and Gibson ahead of him at PF.
amazing
@chadfordinsider Team customarily give player 120% of salary scale. Grizzlies owner Michael Heisley offered less. Thus … no Henry in summer league
I don’t know who looks worse, the player or the owner.
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 13, 2010 4:32 PM CDT reply actions
Owner will get 95% of the blame
Heisley makes it look as though he is admitting he made the wrong decision picking Henry OR demonstrating extreme cheapness… or a combination of both.
Henry should play in the summer league anyways, but that will be overshadowed by the crooked look Memphis fans give Heisley. It is as though he thought no one would find out he lowballed his brand new player
I met one of Hinrich's Professor's at Kansas, but he never met Hinrich.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 13, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Why does that equate?
He lowballed Henry probably because he took on so much money with Rudy Gay. He is trying to limit spending. Mayo is a great talent on a rookie contract—no reason to move him.
I met one of Hinrich's Professor's at Kansas, but he never met Hinrich.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 14, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Bouldin looked solid for a 3rd PG type of guy...
other than that, I agree. Lucas and McClinton just looked to shoot and played no defense.
The Nuggets D had a factor in that.
Lanes were constantly being closed, really tight 1-1 defense. Nuggets knew what they were doing. Bulls looked like lost.
"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."
by windycitywarrior on Jul 13, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Also they kind of suck.
"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."
by windycitywarrior on Jul 13, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Bouldin has looked good in this last quarter
couple of 3s and a nice laser pass inside.
Bouldin should make the roster a 3 PG/SG
he only has 22 and could turn improve a lot. He has BQ IQ and a good 3 point shot. I really like his game. He could become a real backup point guard in a year or 2.
well
it depends on the amount of slots the bulls need to fill at the end.
trust me he will impress in one of these games
he was great in the fourth quarter, knocked down shots, gave some assists and moved the ball without trunovers. I like this kid.
I lost picture, was watching online. What did JJ do?
I met one of Hinrich's Professor's at Kansas, but he never met Hinrich.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 13, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Man, if he could really develop that outside shot and prove it an asset
His entire game changes. He’s not spectacular off the dribble or mid range. But if defenders have to respect him from deep, his pump fake will actually hold water.
I met one of Hinrich's Professor's at Kansas, but he never met Hinrich.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 13, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep..
He’d have a long career if he can just hit the three. Would take him from a towel waver to a rotation guy.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 14, 2010 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not that down on him
He has too many skills to be a 4 year and out guy. He’s better than Alexander.
He just needs to “get it”. Much like Earl Clark, but Clark also needs to fill out. Johnson, as we can say, had plenty of papa johns last year.
Those skills don’t make any freaking sense right now, but having a three point shot is foolproof. Nothing keeps a defense honest better than a consistent shooter.
My hope is that Thibs works the ever-loving piss outta this guy and actually teaches him. Del Negro, of course, only did the former—if that.
I met one of Hinrich's Professor's at Kansas, but he never met Hinrich.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 14, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL JJ
"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."
by windycitywarrior on Jul 13, 2010 4:40 PM CDT reply actions
ChannelSurfing.net
I met one of Hinrich's Professor's at Kansas, but he never met Hinrich.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jul 13, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Should we or should'nt really trade Deng (to shed contract to go after another FA next summer)
with the small forwards that are left on the market with Deng’s productivity (18 and 9, and with a rejuvenated roster and a matured Rose he could potentially post more than that)? Is it worth getting rid of him for an old Carter and lower tier SF? The Bulls have been making moves for the future instead of for “now” for years, it didn’t work. Now its time to start building a team that can contend ASAP.
"Cleveland suck's" Joakim Noah
Deng is an excellent defender, a great rebounder and a pretty good offensive contributer.
Why trade him, what will we get back in return that will be of equal value?
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Jul 13, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
No, who thinks we should?
I think the only reason we would have traded him was if LeBron was available. I could see moving him if you really like Iggy I guess, but really the SF’s in the league better than Deng aren’t available. You keep him around unless a superstar tells you he wants to play in Chicago and the only way he can, is if you move Deng’s contract.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 14, 2010 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Derrick Byars has to get John Lucas off the floor
Byars can’t do anything with Lucas trying to run things. With Bouldin looking to facilitate Byars, Almond, and Samuels can actually get a good pass.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
Everyone's complaining about JR Smith playing in the summer league
But isn’t it equally/more odd that OJ Mayo is playing the summer league for the T-Wolves? Just sayin
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 13, 2010 5:06 PM CDT reply actions
Yep
And I forgot that J.R. Smith is only 24. He seems like he should be older, since he’s a vet now. I wish we could get him, but I know he’s not available.
by RM on Jul 13, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh right
sorry lol. He’s on the Grizzlies. My mistake
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 13, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
OJ is playing
in summer league to work on his PG skills, Memphis wants badly for OJ to develope into a PG, they aren’t big fans of Conley
by QUINTEN DALEY on Jul 14, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh
That makes sense, I guess. Any chance we can get Conley as a backup? Yeah…I know i’m grasping at straws here
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 14, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
he's pretty expensive at $4.9mil with a q.o. of $6.5mil the year after
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Why not?
OJ is a polished scorer in the NBA. He averaged 17.5 ppg and played 38 min. per game as a starter…JR just kinda chucks up shots and jumps really well. He’s much more in need of development and evaluation than Mayo
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 14, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
JR Smith is who he is
he’s not gonna change, he doesn’t really need development, because he’s already found his niche.
by Stacey_Is_King on Jul 14, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
JJ :(
@coachthorpe The Bulls have a very poor entry here this week, and James Johnson can not change that. But he’s allowed the game drain his energy.
Here is a stat that really jumps out at you and is pretty good indicator of how the game went:
Bulls FT: 10/17 Nuggets FT: 27/35!
JJ was responsible for a lot of those Nuggets FTs.
8 PF, Ouch.
"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."
by windycitywarrior on Jul 13, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Disappointed in Johnson and Byars...
Bouldin looked like a guy who could handle the ball and run an offense as a 3rd PG, but I don’t think he has the athleticism to do much more than that. Almond could definitely score against weaker comp, but I guess the defense question remains.
But basically nobody looked like a rotation player in this game. That’s not surprising (none of these guys were expected to be much more than end-of-the-roster guys with the exception of Johnson.
Johnson did look in better shape, but he still was too lazy with the ball and didn’t seem to play with any focus. And Byars just didn’t show enough to suggest he’s anything more than an end-of-the-roster guy, either.
Hopefully we’ll see better things tomorrow, but I don’t expect much from our summer league team.
How many of yall think Asik will contribute rite away or will it take a year or two to get used to the NBA game
I hope he does from the video Ive seen , seems like he can defend and block pretty good .
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I wouldn't expect a ton from Asik right away...
but then again not much will be expected. With Boozer, Noah, and Gibson, that’s most of the frontcourt minutes anyway. If he can give 8-12 mpg off the bench, that’d probably be all we’d ask this year (barring an injury to Noah or Boozer of course).
yeah
the problem is there’s not really another center in our current frontcourt rotation, as taj and boozer shouldn’t be in that position.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
Boozer can play a few minutes there as needed
And there’s always the possibility we bring Miller back for a minor role.
i don't want to see booz get minutes at the 5
hope asik will be good enough, otherwise i don’t mind seeing miller get some minutes.
but since we have a big time PF and taj we shouldn’t need to do the noah/miller combo we saw last year, thus limiting miller’s minutes more than before.
"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"
I agree
But we should probably sign Miller before we count on him playing!
Miller seemed to have such a good time here last year that he might just resign on the cheep… But the evil golden ring in Miami is calling out to him, so he might prefer to sign there.
"I do not aim with my hand; he who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I aim with my eye.
I do not shoot with my hand; he who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father. I shoot with my mind.
I do not kill with my gun; he who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father. I kill with my heart."
by windycitywarrior on Jul 13, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I do think we need One more big To Help with Asik development and not to put Pressure on Boozer or Taj who are Like 6'8 and would be Dominated
Id rather NOT see Boozer play center and if Noah planters fasciitis come’s back it would not be good.
If we add One more Big PF/C 6’10 to 7’0 ft and a Half way Decent Point guard to back up Rose , we are really deep and ready to go at it.
Regardless of getting Redick ,Brewer or Barnes(who is more suited For the 3 or 4 than SG He played both for the suns and magic)I think the Bull’s need to add those piece’s
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Chicago Jazz almost complete.
“He reached out to me and we talked about it, for sure,” Korver said. “I was texting Ronnie Brewer earlier. We’re trying to start the Chicago Jazz here.”
Brewer would Be nice pick up: defensively
I like that Boozer is recruiting for us .What do you think?
Now all we need Okur,Just kidding
link] http://blogs.suntimes.com/bulls/2010/07/chicago_jazz_almost_complete.html
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Bulls, Celtics battling for Howard
Here’s the link to that one
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Bulls-Celtics-battling-for-Howard?urn=nba,255315
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I agree, rather have Livingston on the Bulls
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by joaroselabrosh on Jul 13, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Why the either-or?
I like Livingston and Howard, and both can likely be had on decent deals, unless Boston offers Howard a large deal out of desperation. It’s nice that the Bulls want to develop JJ, but when Howard’s healthy he’s as good of a player as Luol. It would be nice to not lose any production at the 3 when Luol leaves the game. Howard would also be a really nice piece for games against Miami or another team with a really good two guard.
Because they should get a young player or two if they're any decent.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I think it was perfectly suited.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Our day is coming
LECOWARD JAMES
Bulls 2010: Leave. No. Witnesses.
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by joaroselabrosh on Jul 13, 2010 9:58 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Anyone see Matt Bouldin's postgame interview?
I want him on the team just for that.
Vanilla Gorilla 2010!
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
by DocPepper on Jul 13, 2010 11:02 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Swirksi interviewed him the other day
http://blogs.bulls.com/2010/07/bulls-enjoy-summer-league-appetizer-against-cavs/
Bouldin sounds like he’s coming into the situation as if the Bulls already want him on the roster. He’s pleased he wasn’t drafted. Had already talked to Bulls about how they wanted him but had no picks to use to select him. He’s looking to pass in Summer League and not chuck shots like guys competing for a roster spot.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
by NBA Observer on Jul 14, 2010 5:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Random Summer League thought of the day:
Could we have traded something, ANYTHING, for DeMarcus Cousins? I mean, geez.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Rose
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
by NBA Observer on Jul 14, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
OK, forget I asked
[sighs]
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
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