After signing Ramon Sessions to a four-year, $16 million contract a year ago, Minnesota Timberwolves general manager David Kahn is trying to unload the guard to teams able to absorb his salary, league executives told Yahoo! Sports.
"They’re basically looking for a salary dump," said an executive with a team who spoke to Minnesota. "That won’t be easy."
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I'd like Sessions
He was awesome in Milwaukee, and that contract is nothing. Maybe we can somehow get Corey Brewer in a package.
I don't know...
Sessions has been very good when given the opportunity…Corey Brewer on the other hand has been bad and given plenty of opportunities…
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by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 12, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Really?
Sessions is an abysmal 3pt shooter. His TS% is very low. He seems fairly inefficient overall. Perhaps you see something that I don’t, but TS near 50%, inability to shoot outside of 15 feet, and his assist rate and turnover rate are not any better than Rose. I’d rather have a guy that can either shoot well from distance, or is an excellent pass first PG. Sessions does not seem to be either. Aside from the 17 games in 2008, he hasn’t been anything to write home about.
(now I will wait patiently while YaoPau proves me wrong, but I tried)
I'm not sure what happened last year
But I remember this stretch from his rookie season:
Date Opp MIN A PTS 2-Apr @WAS 24 8 8 4-Apr IND 31 7 11 6-Apr @IND 42 10 8 8-Apr BOS 37 7 13 9-Apr @TOR 36 10 6 11-Apr @BOS 43 14 8 12-Apr NJ 43 13 12 14-Apr CHI 44 24 20 16-Apr @MIN 53 14 25
And I remember him putting up 44 and 12 against Detroit in year two, with a 17.6 PER for the season. He’s 6’3" in shoes, DX calls him a decent defender, he’s just 24. At worst he plays 15mpg of solid ball and he’s a possible trade chip. We have no other ball handlers besides Rose, and we’re dangling half our remaining cap space on JJ Redick. I see no downside to this.
by YaoPau on Jul 12, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree
A seemingly solid backup PG he’d be….perhaps better than Acie Law (though I do find it puzzling that Acie Law looked good when he actually got minutes for us, then never played again….perhaps we were trying to keep his value low to resign him…..
But Sessions is a solid backup.
I’d like Ridnour if we could get him for less than the $4M/yr on Sessions, just because I think Ridnour is a wee bit more proven and well more importantly didn’t have a bad year like Sessions oddly did last year in Minny…..
I was excited about Sessions last summer though, and wouldn’t mind him.
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Fair enough
He may have just had an off year. That TS% bothers me a bit. It very well could have been minnesota’s system. It seemed like he would just have long stretches where he was not good. That’s a great stretch in his rookie season though. I suppose I am missing the point that he is still 24 and he played for a shitty team last year.
I’d love to take a swing on Ellington or Brewer with the trade. Both guys are still young and athletic (Brewer much more athletic). Ellington was a pretty solid shooter at UNC and did pretty well his rookie year. If he could tighten up the D a bit…maybe a good risk. I think Brewer could become a solid defender under Thibs, but many probably could.
Maybe Minnesota is just where you go to suck ass.
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that's what she said
I got the skills to pay the bills and that's about it
by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 12, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
i like brewer
i think he just aint playing with effort stuck down there in sota
Bosh + Wade plan = FAIL
i didn't realize Brewer has actuallybeen decent from 3 the past two years
still a career TS of .477 is yucky.
I don't know, I always wonder about guys in this kind of position
I don’t know Sessions is a locker room problem, or low IQ guy, or whatever similar reasons a team might want to trade a guy. But you look at Sessions production and it seems crazy that he hasn’t gotten more of a chance. It’s not like he’s played behind guys who were much better, and it’s not like he’s been on a bad contract.
Isn't that exactly the kind of guys the Bulls should target?
If there aren’t questions about a player, he isn’t coming at a bargain. I’d rather those questions be about something other than their production.
Sessions would be kind of a waste on the Bulls, unless Derrick got hurt. He's starting caliber (seriously)
when given minutes. To spend $4 million on a backup PG behind Derrick when Acie Law is available for likely a quarter of that price and much better suited to the role of backup, just doesn’t make sense to me.
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 12, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
that implies he's only play 8 minutes a game
wouldn’t Sessions get some time at the 2 as well? especially considering we have zero of them?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 12, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
It wouldn't be a bad idea to play Derrick off the ball when Sessions is in
because Sessions has terrific court vision
by LoveForTheGame on Jul 12, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
I though he may be a back-up PG option, but his salary makes me second guess that thought…
… Especially w/ Ridnour and Livingston being considered as replacements along the fact he’s stuck behind Flynn, who I wasn’t really impressed with.
I will say I haven’t seen Sessions play much in Minny, but I did like him when he was with the Bucks.
if Redick gets matched, I like him alright.
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Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
David Kahn is genius
but only on February 29th.
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Like Sessions
he could play some 2 alongside Rose, right?
I’m starting to worry about underselling the backup PG need. I think the actual role of a dedicated backup point could be had for very cheap, but it’d be nice if we also had a 2 that could swing over for some point. Otherwise we’re very vulnerable if Rose is hurt, but that’s the case regardless, right?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 12, 2010 10:26 AM CDT reply actions
Yeah, we could use someone to at least bring the ball up and defend well
But they should at least be able to pass or shoot well. Perhaps someone on the summer league roster? Jerel McNeal? McClinton? I remember McNeal being a solid creator in college at Marquette. Not sure how well that has translated overseas or how it would work here.
Why not just re-sign Law to a minimum (or close) deal?
by Stay Chisel on Jul 12, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I would be willing to bet that Acie is probably coming back.
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 12, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
i hope so
i liked what i saw out of him. i dont want to lose him for nothing and have him succeed like shannon brown did with kobe.
I'm cuckoo for Kukoc!!!
Shannon Brown is the same guy he always was. He's just on TV more now and asked to do less in LA.
Basically all he has to do is dunk on breakaways and get in someone’s jersey on defense. And he does it fairly well. Doesn’t make him good, though.
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 12, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah i get that
but when he was here… he not only wasn’t on tv, but barely in any games. we just had him sitting on the bench. acie gave some good minutes when rose was hurt and then was never seen again, under the brilliance of vinny.
I'm cuckoo for Kukoc!!!
I like that too
but in addition to getting another rotation player to handle the ball.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 12, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Delonte!
:)
This must be annoying by now.
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 12, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
That's why we should have looked at getting Barbosa It's also why Delonte West makes all kinds of sense.
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 12, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Barbosa, West and Acie Law all make (or made, in Barbosa's case) sense to me
who else are we looking at? Just Howard, Redick and Brewer?
I got the skills to pay the bills and that's about it
by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 12, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Sounds that way. Rubbish.
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 12, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd be very happy if we brought West, Law and B-Miller in
it solves our three most pressing needs. Plus, we could probably still squeeze in Sessions if we wanted, so long as we just sent away JJ
I got the skills to pay the bills and that's about it
by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 12, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
exactly.
I got the skills to pay the bills and that's about it
by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 12, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I could live with that, but we've gotten no indications that Delonte is being looked at by the Bulls
and they made no effort to grab Barbosa who would have been a solid fit and has a better track record of above average play than Redick who really only became good in the last year.
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 12, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I know it was a small 4 game thing
But Howard looked rejuvinated before that awful injury agianst us last year in his new uniform. If he is close or back to his self, he’s a solid pickup as a versatile 2/3 super Salmons that would likely be on the cheap.
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I like Kyle Lowry as well
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 12, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
can he play any minutes at SG? That's part of why I like Delonte. He can defend either position and work the PG and SG spots competently on offense. I think Lowry's
a very good PG defender but he seems a little small for most SGs. That and he seems to be more of a penetrator than a shooter don’t make him the best fir for SG minutes on this team.
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 12, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
delonte is the man
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
I think Darryl Morey likes him, too. That's a problem.
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 12, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
I like him, too, but he is purely a backup PG. He can’t play the 2 as he is a spotty shooter and pretty small (maybe he’s 6 feet tall). If we could get him for cheap, I say do it.
by Stay Chisel on Jul 12, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Barbosa
Has been hurt it seems the last 2 yrs (he played a lot more 2 yrs ago, but I thought played hurt a bit too.
Plus he’s been downright bad in the playoffs each year, he makes $7-7.6M the next 2 seasons, isn’t a good enough ball handler to play decent PG, cannot defend given his size and has falled further away from defense the last 3-4 yrs, which is concerning, and cannot get many assists on a Phx team that’s all about shot makers.
I think he’s a big step down from Kirk.
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Maybe it's just me
but I liked Acie Law last year. Maybe to Bulls are just going to stick with him. Not exaclty sure why he lost playing time but if he isn’t cut, I think the Bulls are going to stick with him as the back up PG.
He'd be fine as the backup PG. He's basically Derrick Lite. I want the Bulls to get someone else at the SG slot
that can handle the ball, defend, and make 3s at an okay rate. Delonte’s the guy I like for that spot, but he’s nuts so he probably won’t get picked up.
Redick’s not really athletic, he isn’t much of a ball handler / creator, and his defense is okay, but not great (because of his limited athleticism).
I don’t really know who else is out there that’s starting caliber that fits the criteria I’d like next to Derrick in the starting lineup.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 12, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Would the Cavs be willing to trade us Mo Williams now that LeBron is gone?
That would be a dream come true. He would be the perfect fit next to Rose.
by LoveForTheGame on Jul 12, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
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