7/1/2010 - Early afternoon roundup
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 1, 2010 3:41 PM CDT
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The latest, somewhat:
- Rudy Gay re-signs with the Grizzlies for a 5-year ~$82m deal.
- Chad Ford now has a source saying the Nets are the frontrunner for LeBron after their presentation. I'd hope so, since they went first.
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Anyone know when Woj will be on B&B today?
Or did I miss it?
Reposting my POP QUIZ: Tomorrow: sources from both the Heat and the Clippers will be:
a. Feeling cautiously optimistic
b. Expecting a second meeting
c. Considering their respective teams the frontrunners
d. All of the above
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
I'm guessing the Clippers won't even make it
Their plane will crash on the way to the meeting, in yet another example of the Clippers franchise being doomed.
Riley will start telling people he already signed Lebron because he refuses to be denied
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Does Sterling buy his planes from the same guys Pippen got his?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
My prediction
Clippers will set the bar so low that whoever presents immediately after them is a virtual lock to get Lebron.
Brad Miller is god.
I'm gonna leave all my negative vibes in the last thread. HE'S COMING!
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
LOL
you were tripping, I mean I fear NJ but still think he’s coming to Chicago
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
there ya go!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah!
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
That's Matt McHale
Different Matt.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
Bullshit! It's the SAME guy, different facial hair!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Same basement, different mother.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 1, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
Brother by another mother
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
That’s Matt McHale, aka Basketbawful
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
That's ban worthy on this site
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
haha, I can't ban anyone
It was a JOKE.
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
you're such a silly goose!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
:P
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Hottub time machine
Bulls sign Tracy McGrady and Grant Hill to multiyear contracts.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
Has he officially been signed?
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Well last I heard Sam Smith hasn't hung himself yet
So he probably hasn’t signed yet
by Bullbo Baggins on Jul 1, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Phil Jackson
coming back next season
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
Link?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
my bad
http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dimelive-100701/daily-dime-live
STEIN_LINE_HQ: Lakers just announced that mega free agent Phil Jackson will be back next season
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
Thanks.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Just saw the crawl on ESPN. We'll see the Lakers in the Finals next season!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
http://espn.go.com/nba/dailydime/_/page/dimelive-100701/daily-dime-live
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
I'm cautiously pessimistic
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
You think he doesn't?
Remember – Brought to you by TMobile.
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
How does Luol's contract look now?
With Rudy Gay signing a max extension…
I mean seriously, how does Rudy Gay get a max deal?
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jul 1, 2010 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I said the same thing
And was told Rudy Gay is a far superior player, and that it’s not irrelevant. I disagreed.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 1, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow. Far superior player...
I am glad I was busy working to miss that thread…17/5 with a 15 PER for his career vs. LUol 16/6 with a 16 PER for his career…not superior, more like similar.
Lu’s contract looks good to me…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Yeah. I said pretty much the same.
One is a year younger, though. Whoopteedo.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Channing Frye 5 year 25 Million
That looks pretty good compared to the Drew Gooden contract…
http://www.sbnation.com/2010/7/1/1547551/nba-free-agency-channing-frye-contract-suns
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
I would've been ok if we ended up with Bosh, Ray Allen and Channing Frye (on that deal)
I got the skills to pay the bills and that's about it
by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 1, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree.
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder how this is going to sound on the CBA talks
with teams spending money like dat
by JustAnotherFan on Jul 1, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Just for some perspective. I thought it was interesting.
From Deadspin:
What do I know that all the other pundits don’t?
1.) I know Gloria James, the Unholy Mother. I know her dire backstory. I know that her son is more mature than she is and how much support and protection her son — and the Cavaliers — provide for her. This is a prior existing condition, a de facto factor that can’t be exploited by any other team in the course of their pitches to LeBron — he wouldn’t stand for that subject to be addressed, nor would he raise it. And he knows that no other media market in the country would enable him to maintain a shield of silence around her.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
What's the deal with her?
I got the skills to pay the bills and that's about it
by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 1, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
two words
delonte west
Deng might be your cup of tea..me personally? I don't like pieces of sh*t in my tea.
oh I knew about that
I assumed it was a given that no one would bring that up. Can you imagine that being part of JR’s pitch?
“LeBron, I just want you to know: I, nor any member of my organization, will plow your mother into next Sunday. That’s a guarantee.”
I got the skills to pay the bills and that's about it
by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 1, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
There is no way Gar would agree to that
He would fuck the shit out of her
by Bullbo Baggins on Jul 1, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
nice handle
haha
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
Come on, our media is nice. KC doesn't like to report on interesting stuff like that
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Presumedly the national media is also aware of her situation. No one else has leaked it.
No one reported the delonte west story. And basically everyone has heard about that.
Colin Cowherd
said there’s a ban at ESPN for discussing it.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
It's silly.. but that honestly might be a selling point.
JR keeps shit in house.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 1, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
and NY most certainly does not.
There are really only two plays: Romeo and Juliet, and put the darn ball in the basket.
-- Abe Lemons
If this is really a major factor, then I really can't see him going to NJ or NY.
Can you imagine the field day the NY Post would have with her? Holy shit.
Then again, who knows if it’s a major factor?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
The story is that Lebron's people
had to call the New York Post and beg them not to publish the Delonte story, they had it ready to go. He probably had to offer them a scoop in the future or something too. I think that’s an underrated factor that might push Lebron out of NY/NJ
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
Maybe they're saving it for if/when LeBron tells them both no.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I've never seen a story about any other player's mother
so they aren’t that nice. Its not like the Tribune is doing exposes on Derrick Rose’ father
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 1, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
great, he's gonna read this and turn down the bulls.
"The superior man blames himself. The inferior man blames others." Don Shula
by TonySoprano on Jul 1, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rudy Gay 16.4 average a year
That’s fucking ridiculous. He just bastardized the whole free agent market. The 2nd-tier FAs are thanking God for Gay.
It makes me wonder how these owners made their millions (or billions) in the first place.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 1, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Heisley is a turn around specialist
in everything other than basketball.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
I work at a big investment bank in chicago and I've actually talked to Heisley about how he made his money
When it comes to private equity deals, he really knows his stuff. The guy is actually quite smart.
It's all over
Hedo Turkoglu thinks LeBron is going to the Clippers.
We may as well cancel our Saturday sit-down with LeBron and his peeps.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
wonder where he thinks he's going?
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
Hedo; everyone's a fuckin expert!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
SIGH
A minor Blackhawks trade forces the Score to talk Hawks.
They’re still the fifth team in the city. Go away.
and Phil just confirmed he's back for LA
the beats keep coming?
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
The Hawks are awesome and there is nothing going on with the bulls.
We don’t even meet with the king for a couple of days.
by BoxingHideout on Jul 1, 2010 4:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Everyone that thinks the Hawks have surpassed the Bulls, I have a question:
If Alex Ovechkin and Sudney Crosby were free agents, would they get this kind of run?
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
No, but that's also because the NBA as a whole is much more popular than the NHL.
If the Bulls were in the running for Wayne Gretzky in the middle of his prime, you can be sure Chicago would be pretty nuts right now.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 1, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Why does it have to be a contest? I like all the Chicago teams...
excepts for the Cubs.
by BoxingHideout on Jul 1, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish I could agree with you
But, sadly, I’m a Cubs fan.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 1, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm sorry for you.
Josh Beckett and his strike out of Sosa in Game 5 2003 say hello.
the thigh bone is not connected to the free throw bone.- Shaquille O'Neal
by BULLieving in Miami on Jul 1, 2010 5:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
get your ice off my basketball court!
There are really only two plays: Romeo and Juliet, and put the darn ball in the basket.
-- Abe Lemons
Phil's already prepared his motivational speech for next year:
“It will be the last stand for me, and I hope a grand one.”
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Would be his 4th trifecta of championships
Unbelievable.
"You ain’t as hot as I is / all of these false prophets is not messiahs /
You don’t know how high the sky is / the square mileage of earth or what pi is." - Nas
Oh man ... I can only dream about a Bulls-Lakers final for Phil's last stand.
Toss in LeBron vs. Kobe …
Just a dream.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
so...
if this is the perfect storyline, the Lakers win in this Finals, right?
And this is for everyone, including the Bulls. LeBron’s already lost one Finals, losing a second, this time to Kobe (for his 6th) and Phil (who got his start in Chicago and won his first 6 of the 12 and first two three peats).
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
No, I like tyrus4prez's interpretation better.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe the year after
when Kobe is trying to win his 7th with no Phil. LeBron gets revenge. Gotta have a back and forth for it to become legendary for the history books. (Magic didn’t beat Bird every time).
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
I'd prefer domination over legendary.
If LeBron wins 8 in a row, I’m quite sure people will call him a legend, regardless if we lose one before we go on that run.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 1, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell NO!! Lebron gets his first title AND the torch as best player in the league!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
meant as a response to tandur.
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
phil should leave while he is on top
cuz if the lakers meet the bulls next yr phil will lose
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 1, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
this ends debate about Byron Scott getting the job due to LeBron
it’s obvious now that Shaw pulled out once he got word from Phil that he was returning, and Scott become 100% interested once he also got word that Phil was returning.
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
Ladies and Gentleman
Rudy Gay signs a 5 yr 82M deal…
Luol Deng is now a discount…..
Thank you,
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I hear you
I’m glad to see Deng will be a bargain come the trade deadline at worst….
But I’d like to think we can keep Luol. He’s a SOLID 3rd option and might be a 4th option….
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Agreed
Luol was never a bad player. He was just a bit overpaid. Now that his contract is a bit more reasonable hopefully, he will get more love from the fans and the media.
I like how one overpaid player makes us feel good about that Deng contract.
By us I mean you guys.
It’s not like Turkoglu’s contract last year or Dampier/Miller/Dalembert’s ugly contracts should make us feel better about Deng.
Ok fine, Ben Wallace’s deal does make Deng’s look decent. Decent is the key.
Surround this team with two big stars and we can live with Deng’s contract, but only because we’ll be eating the luxury tax like any other big market team in the upcoming years (Rose, Noah reups, max FAs will have escalating salaries and Deng’s contract climbs as well).
Still, if you think you can get anything back but expirings and maybe a rotation player for Deng, you’re smoking the same shit Heisley is.
Turkoglu wasn't a factor last year
We weren’t trying to move Deng then.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 1, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Deng's contract isn't great and it's not easy to trade, but
you also can’t acquire a player of similar ability on the free agent market for less money than Deng is being paid.
The only problem with Deng is that he is actually basically worth his contract. That’s of no use to a team where winning games is no longer a priority, and majority of the teams that are interested in winning have already paid their own Deng type players and are dealing with luxury tax issues.
by Scotter on Jul 1, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So much of a steal that Toronto is Kosher with taking him in a S&T?
Or maybe the Minnesota-Toronto-Bulls 3 way being bandied about on these fair boards?
by Stan Mikita's Donuts on Jul 1, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Since Minnie wanted Gay....
/that sounded wrong…
by Stan Mikita's Donuts on Jul 1, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Corey Brewer (SG/SF) versus JJ Reddick for Bulls shooting guard easy midlevel (5/25) contract! after signing top FA(s)
"JustThrewUp."
"TheBullsAreSoSmallTime"
Reddick is much better shooter
But Brewer is younger and is a better scorer.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 1, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
jj going to be asking for max money too
you just watch
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Worst case (no LBJ or Wade) Let's just overpay for Dirk
And try desperately to bring in Morrow (who I know was talking but not signed).
I mean Dirk initially not overpaid, but who knows in a few years.
If we win 1 or 2 it’s worth it, and a Rose-?-Deng-Dirk-Noah team is a contender….
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I didn't say dynasty
I said if we win 1 or 2.
Dirk’s still fantastic today, and he can get 4 yrs today, not 5 or 6 given his age, so why not.
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I would be all about Dirk
But I don’t really think a max is overpaying him. I am pretty sure he is getting the max from Dallas
by Bullbo Baggins on Jul 1, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I really think
Dirk is more up to leave than many of them. I know Cuban’s facilities are nice and Cuban makes moves, but he’s rarely made a good move (he and Nelson that is).
They’ve continually overpaid for aging vets, shipped out the young, and left it be Dirk with a scrub, and for chrissakes, they let Nash go.
The issue with Dirk for Max is that he’d burn up what $25 of our $30M….
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I would rather have David Lee over Dirk because of age, plus Lee would be less money, so we can get more players in from FA
by LoveForTheGame on Jul 1, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
But Dirk is better than Lee
And it’s not all that close. Dirk’s contract is 4 yrs…..that’s not an albatross and he hasn’t Ben Wallace fallen yet nor with his vast array of skills that do not rely on pure athleticism should he.
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What I should have said was
I would be all about Dirk if we struck out on the big 3. But yeah with his starting max we could only get him and a roll player or 2
by Bullbo Baggins on Jul 1, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
a 7 footer with a deadly three? Plus Rose is a completely better PG than he has had in the past . Spunds like winner, esp if we add melo next yr
Deng might be your cup of tea..me personally? I don't like pieces of sh*t in my tea.
old kidd
HUGGGE difference
now if he was with Kidd back when he was with the nets….
Deng might be your cup of tea..me personally? I don't like pieces of sh*t in my tea.
I still wouldn't say completely better PG just yet
Especially because Kidd is an amazing passer…not the scorer that Rose is but a far superior passer
true
id still say Rose is a far better upgrade. Plus Rose’s scoring in the end of games will balance Dirk’s scared tactics
Deng might be your cup of tea..me personally? I don't like pieces of sh*t in my tea.
I don't even know if we'd need to swign for the Melo fence
Though obv talent wise sure….
I seriously think Dirk’s got at least 3 good years in him seeing as his PER is in the low 20’s and his playoff PER has been at the 28 level the last few years….he can still game. He’s a great scorer and one that is not guardable, especially with a Rose and Deng and defensive/athletic big. I think we’d be on the verge of a SUPERMAVS.
Plus I don’t think anyone outside of Dirk competes with Rose, Deng or Noah these days, just a bunch of overrated, overpaid vets. Kidd ain’t at all as good as he was (even though his stats are decent, he’s got a bunch of scorers around him, the Matrix is getting worse. Bulter’s always to me been overrated, Dampier kept them from a title, Jason Terry is like a Mo Williams, nice to have, but not a game changer….
They’ve got nice players, but have been a 1 Man superstar team for years, and what have 10 straight 50 win seasons in the West, which has been clearly better than the East, and Dirks been a top 1-5 PF for the last 7-8 years….
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u speak good kung fu sir
Deng might be your cup of tea..me personally? I don't like pieces of sh*t in my tea.
we should be pushing for a melo trade while we wait for saturday to come
id rather have melo than lebron if at all possible
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I'd prefer Wade to the bunch still
Even if it’s a pipe dream, it’s my pipe dream.
Lebron is better than Melo, but Melo might be what the doctor ordered with a better post game and perhaps a better team (less ME) game.
I could be fine with it. But what can we trade? I don’t want to give up Noah-Rose And I’d prefer Deng with Melo….
Plus I don’t see a Deng-Taj-next yr first being enough.
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i just love melo's game and think his game would mesh with rose PERFECTLY
outstanding shooter and much better catch and shoot than wade/lebron imo
wade and lebron like creating their own shot more (not that melo cant do that)
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
plus drose
is billups-ish..and we saw how he helped melo
Deng might be your cup of tea..me personally? I don't like pieces of sh*t in my tea.
At first glance
I was like, no. But yeah I like Melo here, much more, he’s a SCORER and can be impossible in the post to defend, even if he’s a 3….too quick and has the size to attack the post.
I’d be all on for that one. And he’s what 25/26? He’s better than Bosh too.
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yeah and everyone keeps talking about how we need a post scorer
well melo can do that too if needed. i love his versatility on offense and any holes on defense i think were erased by his performance in the wcf + he’d be here under thibs
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Melo is not better than Bosh.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
i would say he is
his denver team has always been in the playoffs in the west.
with or without billups he always got them in the postseason at least
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
yes, one player makes a team
good call
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Jul 1, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Melo is better than Bosh, no question
by LoveForTheGame on Jul 1, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
why?
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
That's, um, not true.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 1, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Carmelo is going to extend to the max soon.
Denver is obviously going to offer him max money, he has a good team around him, teams aren’t unloading space for next year like they did this off season, I’m sure Melo has some fantasies but if he has a responsible agent he’ll sign on the dotted line. Just like Durant will.
Holy shit, according to Jalen Rose, D Rose has a twitter account:
jalenrose RT @IamDerrickRose: what up tweet-fam…Follow my brother from another mother…cool homie & one of the best PG’s in the NBA
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
Crazy.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
haha
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait, this can't be D Rose:
@RajonRondo Wassup my man??
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
i didnt believe it either but i guess so
KCJHoop No longer a free agent: DRose joins Twitter. @IamDerrickRose
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
They never seem to hate each other
I don’t know why you would think that wouldn’t be him because of that.
Just playin around, I'm sure they're friendly
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Deng might be your cup of tea..me personally? I don't like pieces of sh*t in my tea.
second!
Just gonna post that.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
Too Funny
@CharlesOakley34 no one believe that this the real Derrick Rose!!
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
no maybe?
Not sure either
jalenrose RT @jalenrose: RT @IamDerrickRose: this is not the REAL Derrick Rose of the Bulls..my BAD…I was gone show the homie love(NOT VERIFIED)
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
He says it isn't
KCJHoop
Former Bull @jalenrose says @IamDerrickRose is NOT the real DRose. So does his trainer. My bad.
by BoxingHideout on Jul 1, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
yea
didnt rose JUST do an interview where he said he doesnt want a facebook or twitter account because it gets you in trouble, i dont see the kid turning around and getting an account made a few weeks later…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
However many the 2010-2020 Bulls get.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
by wrigleyrocker12 on Jul 1, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
its like porn
you know it when you see it
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by DartmouthCubsFan on Jul 1, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Chicago Bulls of the 90's = Backdoor Sluts 9
by NittanyCub on Jul 1, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
You mean obscenity, not porn.
That is, if you’re referencing the famous phrase by Justice Stewart. Maybe you’re just saying that you’re very familiar with porn, I don’t know.
by arjoseph on Jul 1, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
probably a three peat but if we have lebron
theyre not going to consider it a dynasty until he wins 7
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
nope in his skin
(bahahahaa)
Deng might be your cup of tea..me personally? I don't like pieces of sh*t in my tea.
yep
http://twitter.com/chrisbosh/status/17510203712
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
the NJ "frontrunner" thing combined with our Wade meeting today has me thinking
what if James and Bosh do go to NJ? does Wade bolt Miami to come here? because i don’t see a viable roster that could be put together in Miami to compete for a title. but
Rose
Wade
Deng
PF (Boozer/Lee)
Noah
still has a shot.
Boozer and Lee would have to get something near max money,
considering Gay just received 5/82. No way they settle for anything under than 14/year.
except Lee can't get more than that
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
my fault
I read it as 14 million in the first year.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Gay is also only 23.
And everybody knows that Wallace, the Memphis GM, is an idiot. I don’t know how much this set the market for those guys.
hes got a ring
hes never said hes all about winning
i have doubts about his real motivation and thats why i place my bets on lebron coming here
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
so he'd just want to be a whipping boy in Miami for the rest of his career
come on, really? maybe he loves Miami enough that competing doesn’t matter to him, but i can’t think he wouldn’t at least strongly consider it.
no thats not what im saying
what im trying to point out is that hes not in win now mode.
hes got a ring. its not panic mode. he can afford to wait a year or two to rebuild again if necessary. or at least he’s shown no signs of panic mode and win now
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
that would be a pretty big gamble
the Nets with LBJ/Bosh is a dynasty. what’s coming along that could help that Heat team compete with them that is better than what we could put together now?
Only if we got Boozer
and all that other stuff happened is the only scenario I see that happening. Wade would be wise to join forces if he wanted to win anything
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Miami has lots of options
Amare, Boozer, Lee
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
we have those same options
plus Rose and Noah.
i’m not saying i think it’ll happen, and my scenario assumes Wade wants to compete for titles now (and i don’t know if it’s even possible to keep Deng). i just don’t think that with what would be left (if LBJ and Bosh go to NJ) that you could put together a team in Miami that really threatens that NJ team.
So... is it good that I'm happy that Derrick Rose follows Ryan Bowen.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
who the hell is that?
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
The Iowa Hawkeyes new video coordinator!!!
(seriously)
He’s probably had the most unlikely long career ever.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
oh thanx. learned sumthin new.
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
KC tweeting . . .
Early indications are the Paxson/Thibodeau visit to see Bosh at Trump Tower was more informal. Meeting at UC still scheduled for Friday.
No Gar huh? Heh
Multiple meetings is usually good.
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This won't work again will it?
Chicago and Toronto agree to deal.
http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/4312
Your Chris Broussard relief for today.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
cant see past jordan's shadow
where he at?
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
That's why it's dark outside
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
holy shit it's Blade Runner!!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
haha
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
You gotta get better with that reply button man
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously, explain this to me:
Am i just not as fast with the button as you guys are?
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
no, you just aren't clicking it
You need to click “(+) reply” in red between “up” and “actions”
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I gotcha, you mean the button i've BEEN CLICKING!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
obviously not all of the time
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
RRRAWWWRRRR!!
I see this tyger’s got some bite!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
'preview" before "post"
too, you can thusly double check that your intended comment is moved somewhat to the right…
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Thanx! You're not the puppet i thought you were!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Do robots dream of electric sheep?
I got the skills to pay the bills and that's about it
by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 1, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice.
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
lebron's not coming
i mean seriously, you see that fool playing without a headband??
and what it would look like if the organization changed its rule to appeal to the king’s wishes. would just lebron get to wear a headband or the whole team now be allowed? if so, who else on the team would wear one next season??
gar and thibs
rocking the headband during the lebron signing press conference.
*reinsdorf refuses to participate
i'm afraid James Johnson may show up in a full mask
like a Mexican wrestler. Signing Lebron james could set a dangerous precedent
by Basketball Smurf on Jul 1, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
james johnson on every 13th game, or...
friday game comes out playing in the jason mask a.k.a. rip hamilton get up.
but all white mask.
headbands are the last thing on his mind right now
and if lebron says he will only play for chicago if he can wear a headband, you let him wear a headband
they eventually let wallace wear one remember
they did a team vote (in which i suppose 90% of the roster at the time, just shrugged and said they couldnt care less) and wallace got to wear his head band…..then got his ass traded
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
Lebron: Aint this a bitch!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
no get lebron and trade for bosh....then
sign a midlevel SG
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 1, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
We don't have the MLE
You don’t get the MLE if you’re under the cap, even if you go over later.
by RM on Jul 1, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Melo
I prefer Bosh too, but it’s a moot point anyway … we don’t have enough to offer the Nuggets to get Melo. They’re not going to give him up for Deng + a pile of trash.
by RM on Jul 1, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I could handle trading Noah if it got us Melo
Noah + Deng for Melo
then we sign Bosh and some roster filler. I know, never gonna happen.
I got the skills to pay the bills and that's about it
by Rose Colored Goggles on Jul 1, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
It's an old issue
Unless Curry is conspiring to get his own contract voided the story is just about Curry being Curry.
His lawyer is looking for ways to get Curry into court.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
What I don't get...
How the hell did the whole headband rule become an issue??? (not saying you guys are serious, but I think some people may actually believe that) It’s a completely illogial supposed negative of lebron going to chicago
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 1, 2010 4:51 PM CDT reply actions
It was apparently a Pax thing
Pax came in. ERob and Jalen were moved. Headbands apparently were banned as a team rule.
Ben Wallace broke the rule. Then the team had a stern talk with him. He stopped wearing the headband.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
ERob was the main reason head bands got banned because he his
wore his headband around his neck like the idiot that he was. This cause Paxson to have an existential crisis. Is it still a headband if it’s not worn around the head? The Notre Dame graduate acted quickly and banned headbands before he was forced to fully contemplate that conundrum.
by Scotter on Jul 1, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
existential crises = "crazy"!
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Lol
Ok, i could’ve sworn some people completely seriously presenting it as a flaw. At least bulls fans aren’t that stupid haha
by ChiTownSportsMaster on Jul 1, 2010 4:55 PM CDT reply actions
Raptors look at sign-and-trade options
This sucks!!!!
The Toronto Raptors have talked to six to eight teams willing to do sign-and-trades for Chris Bosh(notes), but front office sources say general manager Bryan Colangelo has ruled out bringing back the expensive contract of Bulls forward Luol Deng(notes).
what else do we have to offer???
Nothing that will get us a second max spot
So that means one of two things:
1) If we S&T for Bosh without trading away Deng, we won’t be able to get LBJ too. That can be okay if LBJ already turns us down.
2) We can trade Deng to a third team with cap space.
Otherwise we can just give picks, or Taj + picks, and we’ll settle for Bosh + some non-max FAs.
by RM on Jul 1, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
how do you say that?
correct me if i’m wrong but, im pretty sure the bulls are a few millon away from being able to sign to maz guys. I think getting rid of taj or/and James johson would be enough
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 1, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we are less than 1 million away
Assuming you get rid of JJ and taj
by Bullbo Baggins on Jul 1, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Cap holds
If you trade Taj and James Johnson, in their place we’ll have minimum contract cap holds because we have two less players. Those cap holds are large enough to eat away much of the savings from trading the two of them away.
Even if we trade them away, we won’t have enough to S&T Bosh for the max and then give LBJ the max. We’ll need to get rid of Deng to do that.
by RM on Jul 1, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
dont rule out a three team trade with a desperate team
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I bet the Knicks will get pretty desperate
And we know they have a bunch of cap room. We could trade for Duhon!!
by Bullbo Baggins on Jul 1, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Trust me, Deng will be tradeable.
And the Raptors will gladly take back a 1st round pick.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
three team deal...
With MN, Al Jeff to Toronto, Bosh to Chi, Deng to MN.
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
for what it's worth
(and probably very little), that is the date doug thonus said he’d heard lebron would commit to us
http://ExtendtheGame.blogspot.com
I hope it's July 3rd.
I plan on getting drunk that night anyway.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
latest Free Agency news...
..LeBron seeks team accepting of a 2headband rule. as it is getting increasingly more difficult to cover his receding hairline with just one headband. looks to be of economical value to the NBA store in terms of headband sales.
Hollinger writes about why LeBron, Bosh, and Wade could be bad.
Putting three superstars together via free agency requires a full-on roster evisceration that would make even the 1998-99 Bulls shudder. Miami, for instance, is pursuing the trio by working a sign-and-trade of its last three contracted players to Toronto for Chris Bosh. If successful, the Heat could have a roster of Dwyane Wade, LeBron James, Bosh and 10 empty slots that could be filled only with second-round draft choices and minimum-wage contracts.
"That pitch wasn’t down and in, that pitch was down and up." Tim McCarver
that would be pretty dumb for mia then...
you need role players
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 1, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
You wouldn't go far in the playoffs with that team, though. Not enough depth.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jul 1, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't disagree with that
In fact, I thought Hollinger was pretty damn optimistic – which is why I thought the little bit posted was a bit of a misrepresentation.
He also goes on to say that one of the remaining 10 slots could be a little more than minimum wage and might be enough to attract a decent player who wanted the exposure of playing with the big 3 – a one year contract there, then recoup the sacrificed salary down the road.
I thought depth was less important in the playoffs.
You can win in the regular season if you have a good team with 10-deep because injuries and fatigue don’t play as big of a factor for you as others. But when you get to the playoffs, your best players are playing 40-45 mins a night and the other starters and backups are playing 25-30, leaving little time for the 8th, 9th and 10th guys.
At least, that was an explanation I read three or four years ago about the Bulls and it made sense.
I could actually envision the reverse. The team wins 50-55 games because they hold the three studs to ~35 mins per game and/or they get tired and/or injured. Their depth is so bad that their second teams get crushed. Then, in the playoffs, as long as all three are healthy, they play 45 mins a game and they are much tougher than their regular season record suggested.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Unless the coach doesn't limit the PT during the season and they're exhausted.
I think the playoffs could also present the issue of better competition – if you normally count on your starters winning the game early so the scrubs can get in, but suddenly they can’t build up quite the same cushion and the scrubs are getting slaughtered. There’s also the possibility of foul trouble screwing you up there.
Foul trouble could definitely sway games
But if you have 3 first team nba players, you can probably survive it.
You simply never put the scrubs in. Your superstars can take it, especially with the way the NBA now give 3 days off even between home games.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
Except when one of your three studs is the one on the bench with the fouls
That reduces you to two studs – which might be plenty on a normally structured team, but has to hurt if you end up with 3 scrubs out there at the same time.
I agree with this
The team will be more effective in the playoffs than in the regular season. I don’t think they’ll kill themselves for 5 extra wins in the regular season. Just look at Boston last year. Their lack of depth had everyone believing they were done as the lost their way into the playoffs. Everyone got healthy and and talent level of their top 7 shone through (starters plus Rasheed and Big Flopper). Nate Robinson and Tony Allen came in only to fulfill a role and to buy a couple of minutes.
Rajon Rondo averaged 41 minutes per game the last two years in the playoffs while averaging only 33 and 36 in the regular season.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
That's true, but this would be a similar although opposite situation.
That team wins in the regular season because there’s no way that over half the teams in the league can match that kind of talent.
In the playoffs against the top handful of team’s in the league where teams’ top three players are much closer in ability to that big three, the rest of the team could be exploited int he playoffs. Look at either the Lakers against that team. Bryant guarding Wade, Artest guiding, James, and Gasol guarding Bosh and then the Lakers still have Bynum, Odom, and guards at least as good as minimum salary players. Boston is a similar situation, Orlando with Howard clogging the paint would be able to compete. Certainly James, Wade, and Bosh give their team a solid shot to win a championship, but doesn’t necessarily set up a dynasty.
i obviously don't want the James/Wade/Bosh team to happen
but i’d love to watch a 7 game series with them (and their merry band of scrubs) against the Lakers.
i still say
we pick up dwade and bosh. lebron can get with jigga and the russian billionaire in new jersey and be the face of brooklyn in years to come.
wade is hometown kid. can play alongside rose. bosh and noah rock the post & boards and we retain deng at sf.
or plan c:
boozer, ray allen, channing frye (and resign acie law)
maybe:
david lee, eddie house, kyle korver, (roger mason or malik allen)
Don't dream about Bosh
Chris Bosh
Off to a great start. First one went well. Pat Riley is very passionate about winning
Bulls fan since 1986.
he's just saying this shit to so stir more rumors
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 1, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe
but he didn’t tweet anything about the informal meeting with Pax and Thibs.
Bulls fan since 1986.
by Dominicanbull on Jul 1, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Because it was informal, I'm guessing.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, let's hope so
Bulls fan since 1986.
by Dominicanbull on Jul 1, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm going to go ahead with my own "no shit" statement.
These meetings, with all the pomp and circumstance, are all theater, from the motorcades to the presentations to the Twitter updates afterward. Much of it feels scripted.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, but that's the biggest "no shit" thing anyone can say about Pat Riley.
We all can say that, and I’m sure few or none of us have had the pleasure of Pat’s company.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
He's just being polite.
He’s not going to trash these people or anything…
by agradecimiento a dios on Jul 1, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
i still am sure hes coming to us
jalenrose RT @LAIreland: B Shaw says in 2 days of interviewing, over 16 hrs, CLE execs never intimated that Lebron will leave—Cavs think he’s staying
Yeah, why would they suggest to a coaching prospect that ...
… oh, by the way, we don’t think LeBron is coming back?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah thats what im thinking
kinda a retarded point. obviously you sell your product as awesome even if its fail
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
they said it was next
then commercials were played and now theyre talking fifa
and lebron is like 6 topics up on the sidebar. gdamn
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a shame
Because I’m sure you were about to turn sportscenter off and leave BaB as soon as you saw that report, and now you’re forced to hang out another 5 minutes or so. To hear the exact same thing we’ve been hearing for a week.
Let me guess
The Bulls feel the have a young team that’s ready to compete now. And they’ve won titles, and it’s a big market for LeBron to become an icon like Jordan was. And also, debate whether Gar Forman is what Scottie Pippen would look like if he were a white person.
Does this pic look fantastic to anyone else?
http://sendlebrontochicago.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/lebron-photo.jpg
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
Anyone post this yet? From Rotoworld:
Hedo Turkoglu has changed his tune about the Raptors recently, and could be involved in a sign-and-trade that would send Chris Bosh to the Bulls for Luol Deng.
Turkoglu acknowledged mistakes in his dealings with Toronto, but it’s still hard to imagine him playing there again next year. If the Bulls could get Bosh and lose Deng’s big contract, it could mean they would also have a better shot at getting LeBron.
by pooriejay on Jul 1, 2010 5:40 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
If luol
goes to the raptors and bosh/turk come back, how much cap room remains?
I know we don’t want Turk, but if it makes getting Lebron and Bosh possible I’ll give him a ride from the airport myself.
DEJESUS!!!
who cares whether we have cap room left?
At this point we need to lock up a top FA before we end up with boozer and Brewer
by Scottie's Nose on Jul 1, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I care
Because it is unlikely Bosh would agree to the sign and trade if we didnt have room to add another max deal.
by Bullbo Baggins on Jul 1, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
What's better:
Deng and Taj starting, with $29 mil in cap space … or Turkoglu and Bosh starting, with $12 mil in cap space.
I’d say #1. As much as I’d love to get Bosh, Turkoglu’s four remaining years are a huge weight to carry, and I think we can get more value for $19 million dollars. If we miss out on LeBron and are looking to trade, I’d take the Evan Turner and Elton Brand for nothing trade over this one if it’s still available.
Eh, having second thoughts
I guess you gotta take the best player in the deal, especially one as good as Bosh. $12 mil in cap space won’t do much though, and we’d need to fill SG and hope to god James Johnson overtakes Turk soon. Rose – Korver – Turkoglu – Bosh – Noah is crap to start.
doesn't Turk make less than Deng?
I think it frees up another 1.5 million. Throw in JJ and I think we would have enough to offer Lebron the max
by Bullbo Baggins on Jul 1, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
It depends on if LeBron is part of the equation.
With James on the Bulls I would definitely take Lee+Deng over Bosh + Hedo. The value of Bosh’s shot creation ability and Hedo’s on the ball skills are really minimized if you have James.
If the Bulls can’t get James then Bosh and Hedo becomes better than Lee and Deng because Bosh’s ability to be an elite scorer trumps what Deng and Lee can provide and the team would need another player that can handle the ball and pass with Hinrich gone like Hedo did in Orlando..
by Scotter on Jul 1, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We could grab Ronnie Brewer...
…and maybe Ray Felton.
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Your numbers are off
It’s Deng ($11.4 mil) and Taj ($1.1 mil) with $29 mil in cap space vs. Turkoglu ($9.8 mil) and Bosh($16.5 mil) with $15.2 mil in cap space. That makes a big difference, because if we then move James Johnson, that gives us just enough cap room to grab Lebron.
Brad Miller is god.
i'd prefer a 3-way trade
that would leave that $9mil for a sg over turk, who turns 32 next year (march) and actually gets more than deng over the life of the deal (extra year, at age 36!).
rose
$9mil
james
bosh
noah
gibson
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
haha, was he on Sportscenter?
And if so, was he doing that creepy smile thing?
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
for about 10 seconds before they turned the mic to him
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh dear
Doesn’t he have friends or family to tell him that he looks like a serial killer? He’s gonna scare Lebron away!
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Wanna play a little "would you rather"?
Wade and Bosh
or Lebron and Boozer?
I’d take Wade and Bosh
"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub
Tough one.
I’m liable to pick the pairing with LeBron, though.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Bron and Boozer
Better over all talent, younger, and less injury prone.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
I agree
We can get Lee without giving up Deng. I think Deng would be good coming off the bench and when his contract expires he would be a good chip in a S&T for more talent to add to a Noah-Lee-LBJ-The guitarist for the Chili Peppers-Rose core.
Doesn't anybody remember....
that Bosh said it all starts with Bron? What makes everyone so quick to assume that we’ll hear anything important anytime soon?
it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs
Lebron has a Basketball camp starting Monday.
Word is he wants his decision made by then.
"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub
So we'll know about Bosh Tuesday?
it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs
by BigforkBullsFan on Jul 1, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
bosh is an idiot
where he goes is a huge factor. i think bosh actually the most important piece of this free agency
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Richard Jefferson opted out of his 1 year 15 mill contract
Who is gonna give his washed up, sorry ass a multi-year deal?
Is Michael Redd gonna opt out?
"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub
yeah but fish can give you 20 a night
Jefferson can give you a 2-9. I watched a lot of Spurs last year. He is in a severe decline. A completely useless player at this point, since he was completely relying on his leaping ability
"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub
bucher on sportscenter
says speculation is wade may have met with nets/bulls in order to waste bulls time
and bosh wants s&t to mia/chi and other pf signings probably wont happen until bosh signs
Has he been reading the comments here?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, what's that supposed to mean?
lol
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought you were insinuating that the readers here were dumb.
I’m just kidding.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jul 1, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm starting to wonder if Wade
is regretting his recruiting tactics. I think he may have painted himself into a corner by not leaving himself options. If Bosh somehow comes to Chicago and Lebron comes too or stays in Cleveland, then Wade runs the risk of having an even worse team next year than the one he had this year.
It makes no sense for him to go on visits to Chicago and NJ unless in the back of his mind he’s deciding to leave himself options. He’s have a better chance of getting FAs to come to Miami if he stood firm, signed his deal, and went all out on recruiting others.
What idiotic speculation
Like the Bulls would be dumb enough to not protect their time or let him fuck with them for too long.
They’re savvy enough to know how this thing works.
Right?
Maybe they let him talk to Gar..
I mean Pax is the real GM after all, I don’t think it’d really matter if we’re wasting Gar’s time.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 1, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
These rumors
are basically one circle jerk after another. Wade, LJ, and Bosh are all laughing somewhere.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
that last part is probably definitely true.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Steve Kerr told Colin Cowherd he thinks LeBron will stay in Cleveland and
most current free agents are not worth max contracts. He said maybe 5 guys can justify max money and Amare, JJ are not among them. CC interviewed some Cleveland sportswriter who said the signing of Byron Scott improves the Cavs chances of keeping LBJ to 55%. Kerr said huge dollar payouts combined with home town loyalty will make it difficult for him to jump ship while the lesser FA’s will go wherever they can get max money.
I was shocked to hear Gray got a 5 yr 82 million contract. The Bulls should have locked him up when the White Panther was here, especially now since Richard has been waived.
If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost. You can still call him vile names.
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You know what cracks me up the most..
is all these “chances” and “percentages” of Lebron going where. “The cavs chances of keeping LBJ to 55%”….was that saying? That 90% of polls/percentages are created on the spot?
"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"
I think you looking for
72.9% of statistics are made up on the spot
Its getting to a point where the best player on everytime will be near a MAX salary
Are there 30 guys worth a Max?
Paul
Durant
Howard
Melo
etc…
A team cannot afford to lose thier best guy, so he is worth the MAX. The owners will fight back with a severe cut-back in the next CBA. No doubt a lockout will occur.
"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub
It is true that a team over the cap can't recover from losing a top player
So they absolutely have to overpay, or immediately start rebuilding.
I’m not sure how you fix that in the CBA. Lowering the max means the teams with a genuine max player will have even more of an advantage, as they become an even bigger bargain.
Memphis and Atlanta are still not helped to compete in that scenario.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
Shorter guaranteed contracts would help
I saw a proposal I thought had a decent start a while back – contracts that are guaranteed in year 1, then gradually decrease in the percentage that is guaranteed each year over the life of the contract.
I think that was Thonus, but I’m not positive.
That makes sense to me
NBA players definitely need to be easier to cut for teams not in the race. You pretty much have to lock the players out for 2 years to get that kind of concession, though.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
What you really need is simply a hard cap and to do away with the current
fixed contract structure. If Chris Bosh wants the biggest contract possible let him sign for 80% of the cap and play with a bunch of scrubs.
The owners lack the ability to police their own spending. Smart business people can’t stop themselves from doing stupid things financially in sports so they can’t operate in a world without a cap or luxury tax. So the next best thing to a free market is a hard cap if you want salaries structure to reflect the fact that their are less than ten true difference makers in the league and everybody else is grouped in much larger tiers.
A hard cap would do it
But of course it would never happen. Not only would the players form another league before they agreed to that, the owners probably don’t even want that. The kind of parity that would force would be scary for everybody.
Plus the logistical nightmare of getting the Lakers salary down under the cap.
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
A different Idea
I always thought there should be a system where the contract signed by a player stays with the team that signed him, for salary cap purposes, even if the player is traded. So if talent wise the Lakers wanted to trade Kobe for Darko they could, but their cap would be bound by their own signings.
Wade > Lebron
"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub
this is either him....
happy cuz he knows lebron is not comming or
he knows he coming wit lebron
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 1, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
haha is that really him after meeting with chi?
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 1, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm glad he's not just waving his middle finger at Chicago
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by Tyrusmancrush on Jul 1, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
replace 'douchbag' with spy.
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"HAHA, GOTCHA BITCHES!!!"
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hahaaa.
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Hilarious
Stage one: Fire Vinny (check)
Stage two: Hire a good coach (check)
Stage three: Draft a SG who shoots 3 (failed)
Stage four: Sign a top 3 FA
Stage five: Trade Deng, Hinrich, whoever not named Rose or Noah to get another top FA (partially check)
Is it wrong that I still have a man crush on Pax?
Dude is just a cool customer
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
Whether it's okay to have mancrushes is based on a man's looks?
Whatever floats your boats.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Yeah I admit that I love how the Bulls are playing things right now
They are the quietest of the bunch and just playing it cool. Going to see Bosh informally just to say “what’s up?”. The bringing in the Chairman Saturday for the serious business with Lebron. Even Rose acting humble and saying the right things. They are acting like a professional business right now.
He did a video interview
with a local writer (Can’t remember his name) and spoke about how the team is ready to win and how you have to be willing and ready to be unselfish and do what ever it takes to win. I just think that if I’m Lebron, and my right hand man on the team is already prepared to be my Scottie Pippen and he’s 4 years younger than me, that he’s the guy I want to grow with and try to win rings with.
by Dils on Jul 1, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
They're the least desperate of all the teams, and they're acting like it
Hopefully Lebron doesn’t find desperation endearing
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
sources tell me that the Knicks' pitch
was an hour straight of Alicia Keys’ “New York” with changed lyrics like “Big lights, playin with Gallo in the Big City” and so forth.
"I'm going to enjoy an apple in bed." - Derrick Rose
by E-Grizzle on Jul 1, 2010 6:11 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
haha, I can imagine Walsh and D'antoni just sitting there bobbing their heads saying "Take that! Take that!"
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Or they could go more nuts with the song
by Bullbo Baggins on Jul 1, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I am SO tired of that fucking song!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on Jul 1, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
fucked up posting the link
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1931187
Also how the hell do you post a link? I have been messing with the button to put in a link but it didnt work
by Bullbo Baggins on Jul 1, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Type some text that you want to be linked,
click the little chain link button, and then enter the link. Viola!
Otherwise just copy and paste the link, right?
That's hot
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
sometimes my life feels shitty
chadfordinsider Cornstein deserves a Lifetime Achievement Award. Negotiated $58 mil for Darko over his career + $65 mil for Dalembert + $32 mil for Beno
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/17490/dining-with-rockets-brad-miller
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm sad too
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"I don't want a massage I want a FACIAL!"
--stay strong, Stacey King.
im watching sportscenter atm
before they went to break just now they showed cli[ps of mj/lebron and said what will it take to make lebron a bull coming up next
by sin on Jul 1, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
damn it i missed it...
just went on espn…. and knicks head coach left with a huge simle on his face
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 1, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Basically
Some dude was on there playing with the big fancy ESPN computer board thing saying that we cant get lebron and bosh…..Bosh would have to take a 400k pay cut the play with the bulls…aka chump change
''I'm not in the gym every morning now for the Cy Young. I want what the boys did in 2005. I want that dog pile, that memory, that ring.''
by TheIronSchenk on Jul 1, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
400k
lol he’ll make that up as soon as he would sign with the bulls and his jersey came out
haha thats it? really I thought it was more then that....
chris broussard i remember saying lebron might be the one who took the pay cut
by Da Bears2333333 on Jul 1, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
thats if we sign bosh straight up….logic points to doing just, making lebron take the 400k pay cut, then letting nike take care of the rest.
''I'm not in the gym every morning now for the Cy Young. I want what the boys did in 2005. I want that dog pile, that memory, that ring.''
by TheIronSchenk on Jul 1, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
just that*
''I'm not in the gym every morning now for the Cy Young. I want what the boys did in 2005. I want that dog pile, that memory, that ring.''
by TheIronSchenk on Jul 1, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Plus
the first title probably triples that.
''I'm not in the gym every morning now for the Cy Young. I want what the boys did in 2005. I want that dog pile, that memory, that ring.''
by TheIronSchenk on Jul 1, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
rudy gay contract
you guys think gay’s contract will make deng more attractive to trade
gotta go
new thread at 8
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 1, 2010 6:25 PM CDT reply actions
there is another one on the bottom left..
he’s entering the trump Tower after the Heat did. He looks nervous.
Bosh definitely has an acting career ahead of him
He’s very good at pretending like he doesn’t love the attention
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sure
I think he both loves the attention but is genuinely socially awkward.
by Gentleman Jim on Jul 1, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
If I'm Paxson tomorrow talking to Bosh
I say,
“Hey, I hear it’s between us and Miami? You wanted to leave Toronto because the lack of attention, right? Here’s Miami’s attendance numbers. Here’s ours. Oh, and by the way . . . we’re actually onto something here in Chicago. K, bye”
Forbes has the Knicks presentation to Lebron
They have the 15 slides.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
I would love to hear someone disprove that nonsense
There’s just no way playing in New York makes that much of a difference
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
You have to read slide 8
Section: Franchise
It’s incredible what the Knicks admit.
I can predict the future using Norm Van Lier's crystal balls.
"Sam has a tendency to denigrate reports coming from any reporter who didn’t also cover the day Naismith first put up the peach baskets." - snley
That's great, "We suck, if you make us not suck, you'll be a lot cooler"
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's the response..
1) More money in Cleveland than Chicago? Are you fucking kidding me.
2) MJ is a billionaire, from an era when guys made less money and there was less media opportunities and advertising opportunities, how the hell does not become one in Chicago?
by Grinder in Training on Jul 1, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
yep
wasn’t any basketball talking going on…all about money.
"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"
And the money isn't even accurate
The fact is that stats are lies. I know this because I have a stats degree. You can pretty much take any set of data and mix it around with the data to get the desired result. Lebron James is the best player of this generation. That fact alone makes him a outlier and very difficult to forecast. I really hope he has someone with some math sense on his team.
Gar is going to fuck the shit out of your mother
by Bullbo Baggins on Jul 1, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not really a bad tactic
They can’t do much to talk up the basketball, and its pretty well documented that LBJ is into the business side of things.
Add in that athletes tend to have egos (not that other people don’t!) – LBJ might figure he can make them a respectable team.
Really, it’s their only shot.
the thing is
he’s got to win at some point to make that much money. if he goes to NY, it will already become clear he’s about the money, and immediately some people will lose respect for him. if he doesn’t win there, then it just gets worse. eventually people will simply stop responding to him if he’s just a guy that loses in the semi-finals every year. be part of a dynasty, and you’re still getting endorsement deals well beyond retirement. who’s gonna care about LeBron in 10 years if he wins nothing? probably nobody.
I'm not saying I think they're right
I’m saying New York had virtually no other option for a pitch. And they had to come up with something. They couldn’t walk in there and beg him to save their jobs, and everyone knows how bad they’ve been basketball-wise.
But they talked up the wrong business
The majority of the presentation seemed to be about how LBJ would help the Knicks not how the Knicks would help LBJ. If anything it seemed like a reason to go to the Nets.
"Our roster kinda sucks, so here are some misleading and skewed statistics!"
God, this could blow up in their face so bad.
this is hilarious
I hope LBJ realizes how stupid that was.
by The90sBullsRevival on Jul 1, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I love the basic overall premise
Please come to New York! But if you don’t want to come to the Knicks please stay in Cleveland!!!
And notice how the Nets were conveniently left out.
Seriously a 1% chance of a billion dollars in Chicago?
If LeBron has anyone worth a damn on his team, he’d see this report and tell them to get the fuck out. If you are going to blatantly lie to me, I don’t want to work for you.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 1, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
That was my immediate reaction as well.
He’s 50x likelier to make a billion dollars in New York than in Chicago? That’s BS.
It's just.. unacceptable math. I mean it's not just biased, it's a god damn lie.
There is a big difference. The fact they put this out in public.. just embarrassing. What the hell are they thinking? They have to know this information looks like a joke, how is an agent go to look at the Knicks when they know the team is just outright lying to it’s players?
More money in Cleveland than Chicago? They should be ashamed.
No one who needs a legitimate analysis would ever go to this company. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Knicks ownership happens to own Interbrand. Unbelievable.
by Grinder in Training on Jul 1, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
This might tell us how poorly New York thought of it's chances,
that they’d have to come out and drop this pile of shit on Lebron.
Pretty sure the people on this blog could put something better together
in the next few hours
it is so frustrating that the best place to chat about the bulls is dominated by a whiny drama queen moderator with a man crush on an average SG......6 recs
by BigforkBullsFan on Jul 1, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
even if it's true, did they tell him why he shouldn't just join the Nets?
i’ve gotta think JR and the boys will have a nice rebuttal to all this.
I wonder if Bosh would take whatever comes as part of a James Johnson sign and trade.
It wouldn’t quite be the max, but I would guess it would work out to him making more money per a year than a 5 year max signing with us outright. Then we would still have Gibson as our 6th man.
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4th of July weekend
Sucks that we have to go the entire weekend with trying to log on to BAB and the various sites to see if the bulls sign anyone. I would much rather PAR-TAY all weekend in either celebration of signing a big name FA or drinking my sadness away from the bulls not signing one of them.
In any case i wish just one would sign tomorrow!
"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"
Chris Sheridan giving the Knicks super-head on the radio
Dissing the Bulls and talking up the Knicks lmao.
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/player?rd=1#/podcenter/?id=5346928&autoplay=1&callsign=ESPNRADIO
If LBJ goes to knicks he will get so much shit in the media
He’ll be all about the money, not about winning, and that will hurt his “brand” more than anything
by The90sBullsRevival on Jul 1, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
What does Karrine Steffans have to do with this?
So…gotta say it: this sort of vindicates the Ben Gordon thing.
-by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM PDT
A lot of these writers are gonna have what equated to a wicked hangover when this is all over
The day after Lebron signs they’re all gonna be like: “Aww shit, what did I say?”
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
.....
That Knicks presentation is such a load of crap. Even if the Knicks signed LeBron they wouldn`t be winning any championships with that shell of a roster. Besides, who is to say LeBron wouldn`t sell more shoes here….
I wonder who has sold the most shoes in the history of the NBA?!?!?
..
Man, I hope to christ LeBron is smart enough to see through that bs. I don`t want the Knicks signing anybody rhis summer. I`d rather see LeBron in New Jersey or Miami.
I hope this is done by Friday night and they can have the press conference next week..
and the Parade next June.
Come work for Donald Sterling!
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by fundamentallysound on Jul 1, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Lebron James on facebook
http://www.slate.com/id/2258799/
Gar is going to fuck the shit out of your mother
god that's gold
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"I don't want a massage I want a FACIAL!"
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my favorite
part was the russian guy asking about nickel mines in akron. good stuff
DEJESUS!!!
I think it's safe to leave BaB for a while
Nothing more to see for the rest of the night. Time to resume normal human behavior.
Nice.
Heat offers contract proposals to Chris Bosh during “impressive and productive” meeting, but gets no early commitment
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Please come to the Bulls Chris, I beg you!!!
Stage one: Fire Vinny (check)
Stage two: Hire a good coach (check)
Stage three: Draft a SG who shoots 3 (failed)
Stage four: Sign a top 3 FA
Stage five: Trade Deng, Hinrich, whoever not named Rose or Noah to get another top FA (partially check)
Very good news for Bulls fans everywhere
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
Amare on Tuesday
Amare to meet with NY Monday, Chicago Tuesday and ding ding ding new team interested after call from Toronto and old pal Bryan Colangelo
At least they’re interested
The Bulls want Tony Allen?
Tony Allen has received interest from many teams in the first day of free agency. Last night, several teams looking for a defensive stopper made calls inquiring about Allen and it’s clear there are teams ready to bid for his services.
The Los Angeles Lakers, New Jersey Nets, Miami Heat, and Chicago Bulls are among the teams that expressed interest in the guard.
Stage one: Fire Vinny (check)
Stage two: Hire a good coach (check)
Stage three: Draft a SG who shoots 3 (failed)
Stage four: Sign a top 3 FA
Stage five: Trade Deng, Hinrich, whoever not named Rose or Noah to get another top FA (partially check)
Didn't he need bodyguards the last time he came here?
(I know he’s from here, but something was going on)
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you're talking about Eddie House not Tony Allen
Stage one: Fire Vinny (check)
Stage two: Hire a good coach (check)
Stage three: Draft a SG who shoots 3 (failed)
Stage four: Sign a top 3 FA
Stage five: Trade Deng, Hinrich, whoever not named Rose or Noah to get another top FA (partially check)
No, I'm 99% sure it was Tony Allen
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Cause Eddie House played a lot
The guy that needed bodyguards missed a couple games in Chicago
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, you're right
My bad
Stage one: Fire Vinny (check)
Stage two: Hire a good coach (check)
Stage three: Draft a SG who shoots 3 (failed)
Stage four: Sign a top 3 FA
Stage five: Trade Deng, Hinrich, whoever not named Rose or Noah to get another top FA (partially check)
Amir Johnson
Toronto Raptors have reached agreement to sign centre Amir Johnson to a five-year, $34 million deal, agent Kevin Bradbury tells Y! Sports.
Damn, I wish I were tall. And male.
OK, not really – but I’ll be lucky to make a couple million in my lifetime.
Whoa, what the hell is going on?
So much for getting David Lee at a discount. Every guy with a name is getting MAXED.
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
That was a mis type
I meant to say: Every guy with a name (like a semi-star) is gonna get the max. Obv not every player is getting the max
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jul 1, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Like the pine trees lining the winding road
I’ve got a name (PAY ME!)
I’ve got a name.
I think it’s time to break out some tunes.
I got a million of 'em.
Not Croce specifically – but I have Musical Syndrome – all sorts of things bring a song to mind, and I’m always starting to sing something for no damn reason and to the complete bewilderment of everyone around me.
I wish I was an NBA free agent right now.
I could probably get at least $3 million a year the way these contracts are being handed out.
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Bosh latest tweet..
Chillin on the couch and watching ESPN News. Seeing if there are any new developements
2010:The year that changed everything
Our boy Tyrus
Minny, Denver, Knicks and Nets showing interest in Charlotte RFA Tyrus Thomas, sources say. Charlotte insists it’s motivated to keep him.
Woj
Just wait until the Knicks give Tyrus the max.
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Denver would be a good fit
They need help on the frontline like nobody’s business. Melo and company can’t compete against the Lake show without another body. They showed interest at the deadline, but the Nugs had no one that interested the Bulls monetarily.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
marc spears:
Jazz free agent forward Carlos Boozer has had “great meetings” with the Jazz, Miami Heat and Chicago Bulls, a NBA source tells Y! Sports.
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