A couple morning-after Hinrich trade thoughts
- I neglected to mention this in the big Hinrich post, but what I really whiffed on earlier this year was the assumption that once the Bulls failed to move Hinrich at the trade deadline, they were stuck with him, thinking there was no way a team with cap room would take on Hinrich's contract instead of playing the FA market themselves. Instead, by waiting, the Bulls still got the desired result, and didn't have to roll the dice with the end of last season with Tony Allen (or something). Not that the team's performance against the Cavs meant that much in the FA pursuit, but it didn't hurt. And maybe that doesn't happen if Kirk was moved at the deadline. Nice of the Wizards to help us out, I think they underestimated the power they had as someone with cap room this summer, if they hold out for 7/1 maybe they could extort more from the Bulls or another team looking for last-minute cap room.
- What could this trade say about the power dynamic and Gar Forman's role? After the VDN firing press conference, it was almost laughable how they tried to prop up Gar, while Paxson comes in last and gave his fiery 'I'm not going anywhere' line, relegating the GM (by perception, anyway) back to puppet status. But now Forman was the only one at the Thibodeau opening presser, and while I have no knowledge of this...was Gar's increased decision-making power the reason Hinrich was finally dealt? Paxson always seemingly had an unreasonably high opinion of the guy, and maybe it was Forman who pushed them to finally trade him.
With that...I'm gone for the weekend. I know, sorta bad timing. But wjb1492 is going to be the substitute teacher, so you're in good hands.
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why letting kirk for salary cap space?
kirk hinrich is big help why he has to leave chicago , there is other player who will fill up the salary space needed to sign free agent .Like acie law ,james johnson,alexander.or other bench player who was not enough use in terms of playing .he is better shooter,and chicago needs a player like him.
by Jolly IbaƱez Jr. on Jun 25, 2010 12:49 PM CDT reply actions
Bad timing? This is the best time to take a break
I wish I could leave for the next week
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 25, 2010 12:56 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I've got vaca days from July 2-7.
I’m gonna have to force myself away from the comp and tv…might drive me insane.
You can! (But I know why you can't. Too much fun and too much invested).
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jun 25, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
We're all going to be on the ESPN/Hoopshype rumors
like white on rice… I personally have no self control about this anymore.
I met one of Hinrich's Professor's at Kansas, but he never met Hinrich.
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Jun 25, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
If I don't check my computer every hour
I start to have a panic attack. Someone please make it stop!
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 25, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
With wjb in charge, should we expect quick bans for people taking pot shots at Kirk on his way out the door?
It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.
George Washington
by snley on Jun 25, 2010 12:56 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
wield the ban hammer!
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jun 25, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Not sure if I should take that personally
It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.
George Washington
Nah, I just love the term "ban hammer." Copyright yfBB.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jun 27, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Trading Kirk for cap space is as much of a slam dunk as Kirk missing an open three or layup!
[pokes sleeping bear?]
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
by Prevenge on Jun 26, 2010 2:35 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
At first thought I was like (AWWW…………Then when u think of it, the trade makes perfect sense…..
by I love football! on Jun 25, 2010 1:00 PM CDT reply actions
perfect sense
as much as I like Kirk, the salary relief will bring a better player
In the 8th grade Mike Ditka won his school's Science Fair with a model of a working volcano. There were 17 other working volcano's made that day, but only one named Mount Ditka.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Jun 25, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
McGraw
Joe Johnson is willing to take less to join LeBron on the Bulls, but would Bosh?
Does he know something? He keeps saying JJ is a sure bet to come to Chicago
Maybe Gar's not as loyal as Pax, and would back out on JJ for Bosh
Which would be kind of funny after Wade criticizes the Bulls for lack of loyalty in an effort to get guys to Miami.
Yeah, I'm starting to think McGraw is a bit more outta the loop than usual
He also wrote to not expect anything big on draft day. That itself made me question his knowledge surrounding the team
i don't think its that Gar isn't "loyal"
I think that Pax really did look at Hinrich as the prodigal son after he drafted him. Maybe Taj is Gar’s Hinrich?
don't let the bed bugs bite
by Rex Grossman on Jun 25, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't mean for trading Kirk, but for backing out of the presumption that JJ is unofficially signed already.
ahh ok
I think Reinsdorf has a hard on for Joe Johnson
don't let the bed bugs bite
by Rex Grossman on Jun 25, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he is JOHN.
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
I do not understand this
Why would they put all their eggs in the Joe Johnson basket?
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 25, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
The same reason they put them in the Kirk, Deng and Noc basket?
I got the skills to pay the bills and that's about it
by Rose Colored Goggles on Jun 25, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
that's hard to believe considering JJ originally left a great Phoenix Suns team to join Atlanta
by KentuckyBullsFan on Jun 25, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
He probably regrets it in the way KG regrets signing that albatross of a contract with the timberwolves
Joe Johnson HAS to want a ring just as bad as any NBA player.
don't let the bed bugs bite
by Rex Grossman on Jun 25, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Not all NBA players want a ring equally
Remember Larry Hughes?
The Three contracts of an NBA life
Contract 1: Make yourself known (rookie)
Contract 2: Make your money (get overpaid)
Contract 3: Make your legacy (win)
I wonder if the Bulls might still deal Lu (handshake deal again like Hinrich) between now and July 8th
and then pursue Lee
Rose
Joe Johnson
LeBron
David Lee
Noah
That’s a team with All-Stars at 4 of the 5 positions, plus Noah, who rules. That’d be crazy.
2010 Offseason Motto: Get Greedy, Bulls. 1 top FA down (Thibs), 1 (or 2) to go.
by fundamentallysound on Jun 25, 2010 2:41 PM CDT reply actions
that team fits well with lebron/rose too
cuz with rose and lebron the PF/C need to be hustle players. Plus david lee can hit a jump shot if needed. Joe johnson can hit a 3 and play defense.
That is why that Orlando makes some sense in retrospect...
They could ship Luol to Orlando in a three team deal with Toronto, and take back Bosh and Pietrus while Toronto lands Gortat…
Then, it looks like…
Rose
Johnson
James
Bosh
Noah
With Asik, Pietrus, Gibson, & Johnson off the bench and minimum salaried veteran ring chasers to fill out the depth…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Why would Orlando or Toronto do that?
Toronto, I could see, if Bosh forced their hand. But I still find that scenario unlikely.
this just combines the deng > gortat + pietrus trade and deng > bosh sign and trade
that have been bandied about ad nauseum. except toronto gets gortat in lieu of deng.
i could definitely see the magic wanting deng because he’s a better use of $51mil than the $50mil for two middling reserves. (have you seen the polish hammer’s “cuban” contract? the raptors would have to really love him*.) and toronto could want bosh to go to another team, with a better s+t compensation, but bosh is the one ultimately deciding.
i looked at this to see what could be wrong with d2.0’s fantasy team: $64.5m + asik’s pay ($3mil?) only leaves just league min (not vet min) for the last three spots before lux tax ($69mil?). not sure if james johnson wouldn’t still need to be dumped for a future to get both joe and lebron….
main issue (as in any of these) is planning for contract extensions of rose and noah.
it looks pretty clever and fairly awesome but unlikely, even in our magical dream worlds. ‘cause as much (or little?) as orlando would be helped in adding deng, they’d be setting up a seriously dangerous team for as long as joe johnson holds up.
*i think colangelo was there back when gortat was picked in the second round by phoenix.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
I would prefer Bosh over Lee…..But Bosh will ask for max……..Even if JJ takes a pay cut and we trade Deng, that would be pushing it…………For are bench, when ppl enter the UC, The bulls org will just hand out raffles..Who ever gets the winner number, can play for the bulls bench for one night! !! lolol bc thats about how much money, we would have left for r bench.if we sign JJ LBJ and Bosh……….
by I love football! on Jun 25, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I would prefer Bosh over Leeā¦..But Bosh will ask for maxā¦ā¦..Even if JJ takes a pay cut and we trade Deng, that would be pushing itā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦For are bench, when ppl enter the UC, The bulls org will just hand out raffles..Who ever gets the winner number, can play for the bulls bench for one night! !! lolol bc thats about how much money, we would have left for r bench.if we sign JJ LBJ and Boshā¦ā¦ā¦.
by I love football! on Jun 25, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
noah should be an allstar next year
i just see it
Deng might be your cup of tea..me personally? I don't like pieces of sh*t in my tea.
If Boozer and Bosh both come to the East
It could be hard, but I think he should make it.
As long as Boozer jumps it'll be OK
because then Noah can just dunk on his dumb ass.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
What about this...
I keep hearing that Joe Johnson is ready to commit early to bulls and there might be a silent handshake between his agent and Reinsdorf, which is why Kirk was traded already. Lets say that Johnson signs with the Bulls for a 4 year/60 mil contract with 13 mil offered the first year. Then the Bulls sign Bosh to a max contract. Can the Bulls then trade Deng + James Johnson + 2012 Charlotte draft pick to cleveland for Lebron? With the trade would the trade exception be able to net the bulls Johnson, Lebron, and Bosh? This would make a lineup of Rose, Johnson, James, Bosh, and Noah; quite possibly best starting lineup in the history of the NBA.
Fans of other teams must think our hypotheticals are crazy
by LoveForTheGame on Jun 25, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Wonder if they look on us like we looked on the Blazers Edgers 2 years ago
It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.
George Washington
and knowing that the cavs will go ahead and make the trade?
i think its easier to do sign and trades before signing free agents…after signing them teams get a chance to see what you have and where you are going…i think the cavs are more likely to let lebron walk for nothing as opposed to hand us the nba championship for the next 4 years….
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
I wouldn't want to be the GM that traded a reigning 2-time MVP
but, on the other hand, if Cleveland offers the hometown Max and he walks, well then LeBron is the “bad guy”.
thats probably why Cleveland has no GM.
don't let the bed bugs bite
by Rex Grossman on Jun 25, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Except they do.
They promoted Danny Ferry’s lead assistant when Ferry left.
Ask me about Tom Thibodeau!!!
www.kidronmusic.com/podcast.html
If they already have Joe Johnson in the bag
and they’re dead set on bringing him in, that might be all the cap space they’ll ever need. Why trade some cheap, young depth with potential when you don’t have to?
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 25, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
In 3 years
I’d rather have James Johnson than Joe Johnson
If LeBron watches TV, and I assume he does
He’s hearing all this hype surrounding Chicago right now.
He’s hearing how it’s the most logical fit for him.
He’s seeing how serious the Bulls are about winning.
He’d be a fool not to and it would hilarious to hear his reasoning if he chose not to.
i know dude
Heād be a fool not to and it would hilarious to hear his reasoning if he chose not to.
this is what i’m waiting for, ‘cause i still don’t believe it will come to pass (no matter what world wide says – too good to be true perhaps?).
4/5 of the starting lineup remains of the playoff team it took you playing out of your mind (long “crazy” threes) against to beat in 5 games. and the one lost soul is their one bad contract – gone to make room for your new super-sidekick. or you can rejoin your old roster full of bad contracts and near nil flexibility. or take a flyer on a wide open roster in miami or ny/nj.
duh?!!!!!
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Right? It's almost too good to be true
It’s like the twilight zone right now. Everything is “Lebron to the Bulls”. I don’t know if I should be happy or sad, because if he doesn’t come here now I’ll go into a serious funk
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 25, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm new around here, so please be kind ...
This place has been like crack to me over the past few weeks, so I finally decided to join up. Plus, I’m a Bulls fan deep in the heart of Knicks country, so it’s nice to find some like-minded folks with equal disdain for the blue and orange.
Anyway, I’m really fired up after this Hinrich thing, and I suspect Deng is the next to go. The question is: will it be in a sign and trade for Bosh or will it be for another deal like that Orlando one that’s been floating around? Which would be most feasible for the teams?
I’d prefer dealing Deng and getting something in return along with cap space before signing Bosh, but I don’t think that’s going to happen. And I think a three-way would be far too complicated to pull off. It’s hard to find a team with the will out there, unless the Magic want Turkoglu back.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jun 25, 2010 4:53 PM CDT reply actions
Make that: and I *EXPECT* Deng to go. Duh.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jun 25, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Welcome to skid row
This place is like crack to all of us.
Although I’m kinda needing a new high. LeBron should take care of that for me
Hell yes.
I’d be content with LeBron and some other good, not-necessarily-elite FA signings. Fill out the roster with talented pieces, with LeBron, Rose and Noah, and you’d still have an elite championship contender, one miles ahead of the Cavs during any stage in LeBron’s career so far.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jun 25, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Welcome to the crackhouse man!
In response to all your ideas, I think the key thing to remember is that all of the heavy lifting is basically done. I have to believe that any other tweaks to the roster will be done after we find out who wants to be on the team. Imo, we should only move Deng is Lebron is coming. If we add Joe Johnson and a power forward to Rose/Deng/Noah we’re still pretty money, even if it’s not ideal.
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 25, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
And that fits in perfectly with what Bosh said recently ...
… that he thinks LeBron will have to come first. LBJ signs with the Bulls and bam! sign and trade for Bosh. Holy shit it’s almost too good to be true. Thinking about this pains me. I feel like I’m setting myself up for great disappointment, like expecting an NES on Christmas morning only to end up with one of those Tiger handheld games …
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jun 25, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I haven't found one yet, but it's coming up on Sportscenter if you're near a tv
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 25, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
yep im watching it too right now.
im so fucking pumped
by Da Bears2333333 on Jun 25, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
This is AWESOME news
So much for showing him the celebs and the buildings NYC! Now you gotta sell Gallo and Toney. Good luck!
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 25, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy shit. What could this mean?
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jun 25, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Only good things imo
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 25, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
An abandoned warehouse
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 25, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
This shit is rich
Instead, the Cleveland Cavaliers’ superstar will visit with individual clubs at a neutral site once the free-agency period begins July 1.
James’ decision throws a monkey wrench in the plans of several clubs that hoped to sell him on non-basketball-related enticements such as the vibrancy of their city, the social life it may afford, or the A-list celebrities that support their teams.
James, the most coveted player in this historic free agent class, wants the focus to be entirely on basketball and doesn’t want it to turn into a spectacle.
THIS ONLY HELPS THE BULLS
by Option27 on Jun 25, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Holy shitballs this is awesome
That’s it, it’s over. He’s coming. He must not want to dissapoint all the celebs that were lined up to talk to him.
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 25, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't believe this..... it's true he's all about winning
he’s coming to chicago
D-rose – Noah – LeBron – ? (2nd max guy – pretty much whoever Lebron wants)
and then Deng – who could be traded
and don’t forget one ofthe best defensive coaches in the league
by Da Bears2333333 on Jun 25, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Which should benefit Chicago
Certainly has to be causing a heart attack in New York.
I’m really hoping that as part of all this, Reilly promises to come down and coach as an enticement, then they don’t get the guys they want anyway. I’d love to see him backtrack from that after screwing over Spoelstra, or look like a total idiot coaching a team that doesn’t jell after he removes a promising young coach.
by wjb1492 on Jun 25, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
pat riley - DO NOT LIKE!
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Guys, I'll be very happy to report on the Knicks schadenfreude firsthand.
I have a buddy who’s a Knicks fan. He says he doesn’t see how anything other than LeBron wouldn’t be considered a failure in this city, especially after all the Isiah shit and the Walsh purges.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jun 25, 2010 5:17 PM CDT reply actions
In my Lebron madness and quest for free agent knowledge
I sometimes I listen to NY radio just to gauge the feelings over there, and I think for the first time since I started doing that, today was the first time I heard people seriously doubt that he was coming to NYC.
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 25, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure the NYC disappointment will be fodder for ESPN's 60 at 60.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jun 25, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh it's not. Not yet.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jun 25, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I meant. The schadenfreude will be mine.
Sorry I wasn’t clear.
"Smith stripped. Smith stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen!"
by ColonelFatheart on Jun 25, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
grrrrr!!!!!
“it’s organizations that win championships, not players”…. am i wrong that it was krumbs krause, not chairman reinsdorf who said that? shouldn’t michael wilbon know that?
propaganda pisses me off!
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
but it WAS krause, not chairman. right?
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
i can't believe i wasted time switching from the ball game on that......
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
What did you expect them to say
other than all we read everyday?
by JustAnotherFan on Jun 26, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions
it was a no hitter!
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
I feel a little bad for Kirk
I’m so happy the Bulls made this trade, but Kirk is going to have to don the ugliest jersey in the NBA and worry about Gilbert Arenas shooting him….
Oh, and the Wizards suck. And the Bulls are about to be a dynasty.
Poor Captain.
Ask me about Tom Thibodeau!!!
www.kidronmusic.com/podcast.html
Kirk is a good guy. I've always liked him as a quality backup and a great personality guy
John Paxson enhanced and also screwed up Kirk’s tenure here in Chicago by overvaluing him.
I really envision Kirk coming back home within two years, retiring as a Bull.
Regardless if one is either a Kirk hater or lover, I believe we all believe he is a good player and asset, maybe not the 11 to 9 million asset as a backup.
John Paxson now and always needs the “Ax” cause he screwed up as usual, and Paxson is still on the clock until we rid ourself of Luol Deng..
"JustThrewUp."
"TheBullsAreSoSmallTime"
i actually did laugh out loud!
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
I can't believe
The amount of people that still think Kirk is a decent player. He’s logged 500 or so games and he is done. Physically he simply has no lift, and we are stuck with 3-11 shooting nights 95% of the time.
it happens. He will never average more than 10 pts a game in Washington, yet many wonder why the Bulls would simply give him away. I don’t get it, Im talking about journalists and pundits, not just fans. !Nick dreidel called him a good player, what has he been watching the past 3 year!
"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub
I can't believe that the people who are so concerned about convincing people Kirk isn't a decent player
(and decent is not exactly a high standard there) feel the need to drastically exaggerate stats to make their point. If Kirk is as bad of a player as you believe, the actual stats will be absolutely sufficient to prove your point. Yet you resort to hyperbole?
totally agree
Captain Kirk had his run, he was loved by the fans but sometimes ya just gotta let go, there are bigger and better things and the cost of keeping kirk was much more than simply 9 mil, but also the opportunity of getting a Lebron and Friend.
Don't the Bulls get a giant $9M trade exception too
they can use that to supplement their free agent signing by “helping” cheap owners unload good players with long contracts.
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
by ignign*kt on Jun 26, 2010 6:31 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You guys are gonna get either Lebron or Bosh, but
not both. Still great move by your organization though.
Lu has to go, going to be difficult though...
LeBron should come to the bulls, if bosh follows as well, watch out. I’m not so sure about Joe Johnson, three wing guys who like the ball in their hands could be interesting, but hey look at the celtics: Rondo, Pierce, and Allen did just fine. Of course it would be amazing to have lebron, bosh and JJ but realistically our bench wouldn’t look too good. I’d much rather sacrifice either bosh or JJ and try to get maybe 2 solid players who can produce off the bench. On any championship team, the play of the bench factors in heavily – just look at the spurs, celtics, or even lakers, all had major contributions in at least one game per series from the bench (Shrek and Donkey, Shannon Brown/Odom, Ginobili when he came off the bench, and Brent Barry, Horry used to hit big shots). Regardless, I’d be ecstatic just to get Lebron, and with Bosh, the Bulls are well on their way to making things happen.

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