2010 NBA Draft open thread OVERFLOW2
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 10:09 PM CDT
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Halfway through 2nd round, expect a Hinrich post later tonight.
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jerome james to mil?
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
ugh
*jordan
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
We should buy Solomon Alabai...
We do need depth…are we banking on two max FA’s AND a bunch of dudes who will take large pay cuts for a possible ring?
Seems exciting but we should add SOMETHING in this draft
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jun 24, 2010 10:15 PM CDT reply actions
Sounds like the logical move
But considering they already gave the Wizards money in the Hinrich trade, they might not be willing to spend anymore
That's weird
We gave them A LOT, I hope the return is good. What’s the going price for a mid-late 2nd rounder?
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jun 24, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
i thought they paid us
but i guess it makes more sense this way ::sigh:: poor (rich) kirk!
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
what the F**K
i want to talk about what the bulls should do next!!!!
by Da Bears2333333 on Jun 24, 2010 10:15 PM CDT reply actions
your friendly bulls blogger is a nazi
by Da Bears2333333 on Jun 24, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
um, aren't we talking about that?
all the fucking time? like right now?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
gani lawal - this year's taj gibson?
suns fans hope so
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
I kind of enjoy watching interviews with him
Knowing he could have been coaching the Bulls instead (on his part) and being glad he’s not (on my part)
I still wish we hired him
remember: we hired Vinny Del Negro
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I haven't been all that impressed with his dealings with diversity
Even allowing for the past two years, I’d rather have that and be sitting here with Thibs now than be stuck with D’Antoni.
Part of that is undoubtedly sour grapes, but I still don’t like him. :)
I assume you mean adversity
unless there’s a donald sterling thing I’m not aware of
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Not me...
He is somewhat overrated as a coach IMO…look at what he has done the past two seasons in NY compared to what happened in Phoenix this season without him…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jun 24, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
i miss the glib mr pringles
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
you just hate deng!
truth is, two mle level contracts for mediocre players is much more damaging to a salary structure than deng’s above avg salary for his above avg play.
if miami has two top guys to go with wade, and orlando gets chris paul, you’ll need deng a lot more than gortat and pietrus.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Why not?
Sign and trade Joe for Deng right away, then sign LeBron and Bosh :)
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jun 24, 2010 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Well if you look at it that way...
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 24, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
What kind of car does Derrick Rose drive?
because I saw someone who looks exactly like him driving outside Chicago today
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
Hes got a Bently Coupe...
And a Range Rover..
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jun 24, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess, there is no reason to watch the draft anymore
since the bulls probably won’t buy a 2nd round pick because they need the money for 2 max contracts in freeagency
This just freaks me out..lol....captions anyone?
by mrdope on Jun 24, 2010 10:26 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
So much for sleeping tonight, thanks!
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 24, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Jay Bilas is impressed with his long arms
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Who are the Bulls going to draft?
Going through the list of available players. I don’t know who I think the Bulls would want
Albi makes sense because of his over all ceiling, but I think Scheyer might be bought.
granted I haven't been following it for the last hour or so
but I don’t believe the bulls have a pic?
yeah but there hasn't been any confirmation that there considering that, has there?
the way you said it, I thought it had been established that they will
Bulls may as well spend no money and get the undrafted guys
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
We need to buy
Willie Warren…No way in HELL he should still be on the board.
I thought at first it was just KC's opinion but now it scares me to know that a source is where he got the idea from
A league source said the Bulls have held internal discussions about bringing back free agent Chris Duhon as a third guard.
for what?
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jun 24, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought we were getting Mike Miller
haha
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by Sayre Bedinger on Jun 24, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
In case you haven't noticed, KC doesn't have an opinion
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 24, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd be okay with that
If it was for the veteran’s minimum. After we signed everyone else.
by DickFractal on Jun 24, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Confused?
Who exactly is the second guard to which KC refers?
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jun 24, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Since you replied with a name, and not the initials of a small forward on the Bulls roster...
Do you think Joe Johnson to Chicago is a done deal? Does the trade of Kirk mean the Bulls are signing Johnson?
Gotta say, I think it sucks if he gets a max contract (my level of pissedness declines with each million below the max for which he signs)…additionally, if he signs for the max, the Bulls will not have the cap space for another max player (assuming $56M cap).
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jun 24, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
There's not Way in hell Joe johnson get a max deall
noway
by Da Bears2333333 on Jun 24, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
He shouldn't
he’s 29 years old and only played well in the regular season and played like crap in the playoffs
As many have mentioned before
He may already have a deal done under the table. Something a little less than the max to enable them to sign a max along with him
maybe a 4 year, 60 million dollar deal
That's been the suggestion from both KC and McGraw
And fits with what those two and Sam have been saying since the trade deadline
Which suggestion wjb?
That Johnson will be the second guard…or that he will be signed to a max contract?
I read amongst the piles of bad internet rumors that the Bulls had a handshake agreement for 4 years, $60M, which with Max raises would set a year one salary at $13.3M…this would leave the Bulls just enough room to sign Bosh or Lebron to a max deal (not Amare, and more than enough for Lee)…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jun 24, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I trust KC
mainly because he seems to be the organization’s bitch, and thus he probably does know something we don’t know / is being told to make us like that which we do not know.
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by dantheman3k on Jun 24, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
According to Doug from Bulls confidential JJ has a handshake deal for 4 years and 60 milli.
Bosh 2010!!!!!
it's actually according to
the the gospel of JOHN
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
so JOHN...
is saying the 4 years, $60M…first year would start around $13.3, which would leave enough cap space for LBJ or CB4. (not Amare).
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jun 24, 2010 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
God, I get that there is JOHN over at RealGM
but I still have a hard time buying into his rumors, even if they seem to be coming true.
oh wait, whats that? John reported only the Clippers rumor? nevermind.
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by dantheman3k on Jun 24, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Duhon as a third guard? I wouldn't mind that
"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."
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by J Theory on Jun 24, 2010 10:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
you gotta be kidding!!!!
god no!!!!!!
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
noooooo
i was so happy when he left. almost as happy as when pargo left the first time. and he came back to haunt me too. :(
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by Jaina on Jun 24, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
yea that deserves a rec
no likey duhon either, that hinrich wannabe…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Jun 24, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
i was anticipating it since the trade deadline of this year
its not like im unfazed by it or anything, i mean i was getting giddy about seeing how hinrich would play back under a disciplined system and defensive minded coach…i was really looking forward to it..
i lived my entire lifte in franklin park, and about 6 years ago i moved to bolingbrook, after the news broke it felt like that day i moved to bolingbrook away from my friends and what was familiar.
but whats more surprising is that im not as mad or as angry as disheartened as i thought i would be…perhaps it hasnt kiked in yet, perhaps i understand what metamorphosis the bulls can encounter now…i guess it had to be done in order to usher in the new bulls era…i guess having derrick rose and hopefully chris bosh will make me happy…
I guess sue might be feeling way worse than me, maybe she can easily make the switch and accept the wizards, i know i cant do that. Despite the reputation ive undoubtedly created for myself, i really am a bulls fan, and this team’s success matters to me, I also believe that hinrich will return to the bulls at some point, maybe two years from now…maybe sooner…
Right now im actually splicing all the games i have on my computer, im trying to create the Kirk Hinrich Chicago Finale mixtape as a tribute to my favorite player…ill still follow his stats and try to catch a wiz game whenever possible, and ill trade for him in 2k, but for now im hoping we land bosh and lebron and dominate the league….
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Jun 24, 2010 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm kind of at the same place
Having more cap space could end up being really good for the Bulls – they have to go for it. And I’m actually kind of excited to get to see Kirk play for a different org. I’ll stay a Bulls fan because I’m attached to other guys on the team as well, but I won’t have a problem cheering for the Wizards as well. I am sorry not to get to see him in Thibs defensive schemes though.
i love bilas scouting report
long arms
long arms
long arms
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
Do we know Bilas's wingspan?
He must be compensating for his own inadequacy. I’m sure of it.
by DickFractal on Jun 24, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Scalanbrince and Harangody on the same team? :/
I vote for Thomas to play, play more and play regularly.-Sam Smith
No need to light hte gym
Just have them wear short shorts
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by Sayre Bedinger on Jun 24, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
wow
Maybe knicks paid the judge, so they can void Curry’s contract
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Lebron dates women.
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by dantheman3k on Jun 24, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
huh?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Magnum Rolle's actually a pretty ballin' name
Too bad he’s not that good at basketball.
He should be a cornerback
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 24, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
so who are bulls taken in the 2nd round?
maybe we can get another gem like taj?
by Da Bears2333333 on Jun 24, 2010 10:38 PM CDT reply actions
Taj was in the first
-Nazi
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
damn thought he was 2nd rd...
anyways who are we takin with the wiz pick
by Da Bears2333333 on Jun 24, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
i don't think the Wizards even have a 2nd rounder
and for as much talking as you’ve done about this trade, you should consider reading at least one of thee articles about it…
grrr. rec, don't +1
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Should Willie Warren and Jon Scheyer happen to go undrafted
It might not be a terrible idea for us
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jun 24, 2010 10:38 PM CDT reply actions
I'll take Scheyer over Duhon.
Spurs take James Anderson and Ryan Richards. I’d have been satisfied if that’s what the Bulls happened to do tonight. Obviously, I’m more pleased with the Hinrich thing, but if that hadn’t happened (I would have dismissed it as a rumor), and they ended with those two guys, it wouldn’t have been horrible.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
NVM
Warren is out
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by Sayre Bedinger on Jun 24, 2010 10:38 PM CDT reply actions
Clippers are going for the most undersized combo guards in the league.
At least GOrdon is awesome. Not sure about Bledsoe and Warren.
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Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
will miss kirk
and will be a wiz fan for this, sorry guys, im a kirk fan :p
i mean not really a wiz fan
just bec of hinrich :p
who are these people?
what is this Blog a Kirk
dont let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya !
i like hinrich too but
9mill for him was not worth it
by Da Bears2333333 on Jun 24, 2010 10:45 PM CDT reply actions
wtf
u dont like hinrich period…dont front…ive read ure comments….
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Jun 24, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
more long arms, incredibly long arms on derrick caracter!
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
one of torrance, thompson or robinson will be left for the suns at #60
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Yeah, he's just terrible at everything else
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jun 24, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
except passing and "basketball IQ"
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
He's probably packing his bags
heading for Chicago right now :)
PS, I hate Duke
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jun 24, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
But all the duke players are so good
just look at Chris Duhon!
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Gerald Henderson!
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Kind of funny when they try so hard to find positive stuff to say about guys
in the late second round, when you know they just want to point out the chances of the guy actually making the team are incredibly slim.
is Vazquez still on the board
is there some website tracking the picks?
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
drafted 28th
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
ha yea
found it, bad habit of posting hte comment and then looking for it myself…
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Jun 24, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
also
try espn.com
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
thanks found it
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
by piccolomair on Jun 24, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to see them give Collins a shot
(I know – KU – big surprise). He’s incredibly tough and would be a nice backup
who will make it from this year's second round?
i think one of the wide bodies and one of the foreign bigs (‘cause there’s always somebody from the second), but no idea which ones. not really feelin’ whiteside or alabi….
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Did Charracter get drafted?
I like him…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jun 24, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
yup, lakers
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Hmm...
If he gets any PT behind Bynum/Gasol/Odum, he could be my second round surprise pick…I really liked his game when he played at Louisville for Pitino.
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jun 24, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
yes - lakers - "INCREDIBLY LONG ARMS" - bilas
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
wow whiteside dropped big
wasnt he supposed to be a late lottery pick a week ago?
I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!
hmmm
heard bit on Alabi to Raptors but is that bulls S&T link have any basis to it or are you just putting it out there as a question
link man…. link!.
I think
The open mouth smile was a giveaway
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by Sayre Bedinger on Jun 24, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
The link
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
by Prevenge on Jun 24, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Obvious question :p
not even a question really, just thought it was interesting them picking him up when he was on our board…when we had a draft board.
DA CUBS DA BEARS DA BULLS
yeh i clearly commented to quickly hehe
during this crazy period I see ‘Bulls’, ‘Bosh’ and ‘S&T’ in the same line and loose my mind, gotta lay of the caffeine.
I'd love to get Collins as our backup PG
Let's sign LeBron and dance our way to the NBA championship. It'll be so crazy!
god dam..
I need to turn the vibrating twitter notification off on my phone, these non stop draft updates are giving me wood.
uh, oh, sportscenter post-draft roundup
is all about LeBron and free agency. Somewhere, Woj is pissed at the overshadowing.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 11:10 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
When's this Kurt post? Should I go to bed?
Let's sign LeBron and dance our way to the NBA championship. It'll be so crazy!
I'm honored.
It’s almost done, but I’ll let this draft thread simmer a bit. Maybe midnight?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Dang, gotta be up early for work, I'll catch it at lunch tomorrow.
Appreciate your work.
Let's sign LeBron and dance our way to the NBA championship. It'll be so crazy!
Wow, a dig at Woj? I'm impressed!
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 24, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I still like that he gets pissed at everything
but it is funny to point out :)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I bet BAB is his favorite SB Nation blog
Let's sign LeBron and dance our way to the NBA championship. It'll be so crazy!
no, probably Blazersedge
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought he hated Pritchard? They're all KP-worshippers. God knows if that blog will still be around tomorrow.
Let's sign LeBron and dance our way to the NBA championship. It'll be so crazy!
honestly I missed your joke
I thought you were being sarcastic about what blog he would like, not that he’d like BaB because we’re all mean :)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm a little disappointed there weren't more contingent trades. there were only like, 6 or 7.
my draft sheet is a bit messy.
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
Good news for all you Scheyer Lovers:
KCJHoop Yes. RT @MarkCaro: @kcjhoop Jon Scheyer undrafted. Any chance the Bulls take a flyer?
KC
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
I'd rather we sign Collins, but Scheyer would be solid
Let's sign LeBron and dance our way to the NBA championship. It'll be so crazy!
Collins would be a nice back-up PG.
All he would be asked to do is give Rose a 10 to 12 minute break a game.
Bosh 2010!!!!!
He might be worth a shot.
averaged 18ppg and 5apg for Duke last season.
Season high of 36 points 9 assist and 8 rebs.
Come home Sherron- come back to usssss...
/diabolic laugh
/wags finger in a beckoning motion
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
and we're tired of you
Hinrich got traded, you can basically go now.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I gues I shouldn't say 'we'
Me. I’m tired.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Depth is more important when you have star players on your roster.
Trading Deng with nothing to show for it is pointless, since he’s actually productive.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 24, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
umm
Pietrus and Gortat would be solid.. I mean I guess it depends on who the second free agent is.. if it’s Bosh I’d do that deal.
I wouldn't. Pietrus is a much worse SF than Deng, and he's just as injury prone.
I’d only do it if we got LeBron.
Let's sign LeBron and dance our way to the NBA championship. It'll be so crazy!
same.
Even if you get Bosh, yes we need depth – but we’d also need a quality SF, of which Pietrus really and truly isn’t.
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by dantheman3k on Jun 24, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Depth is overrated...
Once a team makes the playoffs, only seven or eight guys play significant minutes…what matters is the talent of the top players on the team…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jun 24, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Talent is better than depth. LA had 6 good players and won a title.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 24, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
hmm
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Pau Gasol
3. Lamar Odom
4. Andrew Bynum
5. Ron Artest
6. Derek Fisher
I’d make the argument that Shannon Brown is a pretty decent bench player. but. err.. hum. yeah.
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by dantheman3k on Jun 24, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah but look at their first 3 (2000's) title teams.. they were loaded.
I personally don’t think they’ll win next season.
good point
the merely two straight championships, and not three, proves that you’re correct.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Jun 24, 2010 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
more relevant perhaps: were the Spurs built on depth or superstars?
honest question, as I don’t recall much on their team outside of the names everyone knows, just as I’m sure I’ll forget who the Lakers bench was this past year in about 5 years time.
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by dantheman3k on Jun 24, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Definitely superstars
Without Parker/Duncan/Ginobili the team was awful.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
I mean I wouldn't be upset if Deng is like the 6th man..
but I just think having two pretty decent role guys to fill out the bench would just be better.
well, let's envision what I consider to be a somewhat realistic scenario at this point
2010-11 Chicago Bulls
PG: Derrick Rose, …Chris Duhon
SG: Joe Johnson, …Chris Duhon
SF: Lebron James, Luol Deng, James Johnson
PF: Taj Gibson, Luol Deng
C: Joakim Noah, Omer Asik
now tell me, is that team better or worse than the following
2010-11 Chicago Bulls:
PG: Derrick Rose, …Chris Duhon
SG: Joe Johnson, ….Mickael Pietrus
SF: Lebron James, James Johnson
PF: Taj Gibson, Marcin Gortat
C: Joakim Noah, Marcin Gortat, Omer Asik
obviously, both of these teams are worse than the following
2010-11 Chicago Bulls:
PG: Derrick Rose, a janitor
SG: Dwayne Wade, a custodian
SF: Lebron James, your mother
PF: Chris Bosh, my father
C: Joakim Noah, their newborn baby.
but that won’t happen. I don’t think.
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by dantheman3k on Jun 24, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I liked option 1 out of the first 2, myself.
I just don’t trust either of the two magic players like you seem to.
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by dantheman3k on Jun 24, 2010 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
well I can only speak for myself..
I have watched a lot of the Magic and I have always felt Pietrus had a nick anderson game about him and he can hit big 3’s for you. Gortat is just a big body vet that can give you some beef behind Noah.
I'm going with option 2
purely based on matchup flexibility. I like Deng way more than Peaches, but having a huge body as a backup (Gortat) is always useful if you need to go down tempo or defend Shaq or Howard. Asik you really can’t trust until he gets a season of NBA action.
Bosh or Bust
by JockstrapNoah on Jun 24, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
they'd have to trade the janitor and your mother with Deng for Jefferson
and you know how much Gar/Pax likes your Mom….
god I never thought I would post that.
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by dantheman3k on Jun 24, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Why the hell would we keep Deng while Lebron is here
instead of dealing him to go after a better PF?
by Stacey_Is_King on Jun 25, 2010 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Huh?
With or without Lebron, the best players will be on the floor when it matters most…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jun 24, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm assuming JJ is a done deal, and now the race is for Bosh or LeBron.
Getting both is not happening.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 24, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
hypothetically it could happen.
Lebron signs, s/t Deng + future 1st rounders for Bosh. Deng’s not too attractive to Toronto, but hypothetically a 3 team deal could be worked.
It won’t happen. God it won’t happen at all. But. er. I’m halfway split between uber dreaming and just saying “well, we got one free agent.”
A true friend stabs you in the front - Oscar Wilde
by dantheman3k on Jun 24, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what's so hard for me to swallow
Instead of going for Bosh and LeBron, they’re happy with Joe Johnson and likely any other power forward or LeBron
I have to believe they've found out for whatever reason they can't get LeBron or Bosh
Because up until this point, they’ve done things that make sense. Even with the Arn Tellem thing, I would think they’d favor Bosh over JJ.
Let's sign LeBron and dance our way to the NBA championship. It'll be so crazy!
I agree.. they know he's Miami bound and wasn't there a rumor
about Bosh, Wade and Allen teaming up like two weeks ago?
yes, it was one of those silly ESPN insider rumors
however, er, “can’t get Lebron”? what?
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by dantheman3k on Jun 24, 2010 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you know Gortat's contract situation?
Are you just looking for a new player to hate?
Over the next 4 years . . .
$6,322,320
$6,790,640
$7,258,960
$7,727,280
It’s a bit much for someone fighting Noah, Gibson and FA for minutes
Yeah, I’d much rather have Deng. A small forward whose better than his counterpart more than half the time
Yeah...
That Gortat/Pietrus deal only really makes sense if its Lebron and Joe Johnson…then we could use the help in the front court that Gortat could give with 25 minutes a night…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jun 24, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Asik's coming to town.
I’m still mixed on the Deng for Gortat/Pietrus deal.
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by dantheman3k on Jun 24, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
Five players under contract next season, and you don’t see the point of the second best player…I would at least for a free agent to be signed (making Lu redundant) before shipping him out for the Polish Hammer and French chucker…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Jun 24, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I get the feeling that trading him hinges entirely on getting Lebron
Can’t say I argue with that. Really know point in trading a good player, and leaving a hole at the position if Bron doesn’t come. A lineup of Rose/Johnson/Deng/New PF/Noah would still be pretty damn formidable
He may not be married, but he's got plenty of Thibo-hoes.
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 24, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I would bet it's entirely contingent on LeBron signing, since McGraw reported that the Magic is the team that put it on the table
Let's sign LeBron and dance our way to the NBA championship. It'll be so crazy!
How excited were you for this Kurt trade? I missed your "reaction"
Good to see you’re still alive
Let's sign LeBron and dance our way to the NBA championship. It'll be so crazy!
i somehow responded to option (who certainly does not hate) above by mistake
you just hate deng!
truth is, two mle level contracts for mediocre players is much more damaging to a salary structure than deng’s above avg salary for his above avg play.
if miami has two top guys to go with wade, and orlando gets chris paul, you’ll need deng a lot more than gortat and pietrus.
eh, kinda bleh, kneejerk emotion response, i guess. i won’t miss deng terribly, unless it’s a poor/illogical trade like that for pietrus and gortat. though a three way with toronto wherein they get gortat and deng goes to orlando on a sign and trade for bosh is pretty great, seeing how there’d then be money for joe johnson too – lbj/bosh/jj – all three! plus the precious pietrus!
The name of the team is ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS - "I tried to convince them that what they were doing was an aberration, an imbecility, a stupidity without name"
?
why are we getting Joe Johnson? Cant we ST Deng for Bosh, sign Lebron, and have money for a good bench/decent 2
even with a 4 man starting lineup, that team challenges the 72-10 team
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
The last sentence is ridiculous, so we'll ignore it.
Toronto is not going to trade for Deng when they have Turkoglu (a worse player and older) under a similar deal.
I don’t want JJ, but at this point the Bulls pretty much know they can sign him without quarrel, and if it’s for the rumored 4 years, 60 million it’s not a complete disaster. Still have the cap space to go after LeBron or Bosh.
Only way a S/T happens is if Bosh basically forces Toronto to move him, and I think he’d rather just wait and see what LeBron does and follow suit.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 24, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
It has the same feel as drafting PeesOn did
Commitment made early that doesn’t feel nearly as promising when the moment actually arrives. Yet, Chicago is loyal (ahem, Wade) and sticks to their word.
ok thanks
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
by blackoutsox on Jun 24, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
What are the rules for undrafted players?
Does it work like the NFL a la sign whoever you can get your hands on/ invite them to a camp?
I’d say Collins, Scheyer, and Scottie Reynolds
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
I'm kinda setting myself up for LeBron dissing the Bulls
But still, with or without LeBron . . we win
Joe Johnson is extremely better than Kirk Hinrich. Let’s say they’re able to sign any of the big name power forwards, this team is set to make a title run immediately.
Rose
Johnson
Deng
Bosh/Boozer/Stoudamire/Lee
Noah
That’s possibly 4 all stars in your starting 5. Deng is no pushover himself.
So yeah, LeBron or not . . . I can’t help but think big things
Exactly.
That’s why Joe Johnson doesn’t kill me now. If he helps bring LBJ – great. They’ll be awesome. If we follow him with one of those pfs, we’re still championship contenders.
Holy shit. I think they’ve actually done it.
Time for sleep.
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Fun read for Knicks haters:
detailing how the Kirk deal totally screws NY.
In serving the Wizards, and only the Wizards, Grunfeld might’ve singlehandedly re-routed LeBron James from the first city to the second.
“We want LeBron!” shouted Knicks fans inside The Theater at the Garden.
They got Andy Rautins of Syracuse and Landry Fields of Stanford instead.
Donnie Walsh still has his precious cap space, but Grunfeld just sent him this little note:
Good luck convincing LeBron James to fill it.
And this fun bit of history:
“Ernie and I hated Chicago more than anyone. We wouldn’t do one thing to help them when we were running the Knicks. In fact, we even tried to kill deals we heard the Bulls were working on. We’d call agents and tell them, ‘Why would you send your player there? Are you kidding? Don’t you know what’s going on inside that organization?’”
by wjb1492 on Jun 25, 2010 12:01 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Why do I not see more outrage about this JJ stuff?
It’s a lot easier to find a shooter than a quality PF, which there are 3 of available, how do you not go after one? You go for JJ if Lebron passes
by The90sBullsRevival on Jun 25, 2010 12:03 AM CDT reply actions
You go for JJ if we can't get Lebron or a PF.
by Stacey_Is_King on Jun 25, 2010 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions
But since we can sign two guys now
The only way I will accept JJ is if he brings a friend.
by Stacey_Is_King on Jun 25, 2010 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions
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