Your choice for the 2010-11 Bulls coach
by chgobr on May 5, 2010 7:26 PM CDT
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PrintI am curious to see if there is a consensus among BaB contributors on who is the best choice for the next Bulls coach. Another Afflicted Chicago Fan completed a great summary that you can agree or disagree with. Sam Smith has a huge list with his thoughts. I truly hope the Bulls don't interview 75% of the candidates listed in the poll. If they do the decision will not be made until September.
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I think if any all of these coaches are REALLY available, the choice has to be Van Gundy.
He’s got a long and proven track record of success. Sure, his teams were slow, but they were also centered around plodding 7 footers (Ewing and Yao).
by fundamentallysound on May 5, 2010 7:32 PM CDT reply actions
IZZO.
He’s probably not available. But he’s the choice if they all are open to coming to Chicago.
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by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 5, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
#1 JVG
I think #2 has to be Byron Scott. He took Kidd to the finals twice and had some good season with Chris Paul. While it’s true Rose has no one on the perimeter to make shots this season, I wouldn’t mind seeing his assist numbers go up.
by The90sBullsRevival on May 5, 2010 7:53 PM CDT reply actions
Can I just throwTyrone Corbin and Jeff Hornacek
in the ring if either of them know how to implement Jerry Sloan’s offense? I don’t know their personalities, but I would love the bulls in that offense.
by Basketball Smurf on May 5, 2010 8:02 PM CDT reply actions
I wrote this over at RealGM, so I'll just paste it. The Bulls aren't going to hire my guy Dave Joerger. So here's my case for JVG:
Things to like about JVG:
- Proven winner. He has only had a losing season once and it was 34-48 in 2005-06 and it was sandwiched between 50+ win seasons. That season T-Mac played only 47 games and Yao for 57 games and the rest of the team was dreadful. He’s coached a team to the finals.
- He recognizes that Joe Johnson is NOT a maximum contract player.
- He believes in Rose and Noah and thinks Bosh would should be the #3 option in FA behind LBJ and Wade.
- His teams are always excellent on defense. He’s never had a team that he coached for a full season fall lower than 6th in defensive efficiency and most of the time they are in the top 4 or 5. Given the Bulls’ current personnel, I think they could quite easily have the league’s best defense with JVG’s schemes.
- Seems like he’s really interested in the job. Otherwise, why bother coming on CTL and Waddle & Silvy on consecutive days immediately after the VDN firing?
- Funny, engaging interview.
Things that are questionable about JVG:
- His teams haven’t been particularly proficient on offense, his best performances ever on the offensive end had his teams at 15th in the league. In fairness to JVG, his teams’ best offensive seasons were some of his most recent ones.
- His teams have played at quite a slow pace. In fairness to JVG, they were centered on plodding 7 footers (Ewing and Yao).
- JVG is a Riley disciple and part of the reason his New York teams’ defenses were so good was that they were very rough and aggressive. I don’t know that you can get away with that kind of bully ball in today’s NBA. But the Rockets were still able to defend at a high level just 3 years ago, so he can clearly do it.
All things considered, I’d take him over just about every option that’s currently available.
by fundamentallysound on May 5, 2010 8:17 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Rose, Noah, and an incoming free agent (likely) in a city that sells out every game and is desperate for a winner?
Vinny the buffoon was able to hit 41 wins in consecutive seasons with lots of hurdles, despite being a buffoon. A competent coach should be drooling at this job and JVG is more than competent. It’s a good job, GarPaxDorf silliness notwithstanding. So I’m not surprised he’d be interested.
Jeff Van Gundy '10
by fundamentallysound on May 5, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
He wrote the book
on the pick and roll
Bosh or Bust
by JockstrapNoah on May 7, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice
Joakim on whether he ever tried tennis: "I played a little bit. If anybody on the Bulls wanted to play me, I would kick their ass."
I'm assuming Scottie Pippen isn't an option for the Bulls.
All of a sudden, they want somebody with coaching experience.
Two years with the foot on the pedal, but the parking brake is engaged.
by benhertz on May 5, 2010 8:59 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Ive wanted Scottie forever!!!!!
As a player Scottie was a fiery leader with a Skiles like discipline. I just hope that wouldnt put us in a situation where we are in the triangle. Alot of people dont know this but you need a post scorer or two to make that work and considering we have none that would be challenging. A post scorer does not have to be a big man Michael was our best and we all know how that worked.
by TRiCioNeRo on May 5, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I've got Calipari fever
I’ve really given up on anything involving X’s and O’s I just want a guy that makes a splash. Collins and Van Gundy both aren’t even getting interviews according to KC, so Calipari is likely my only hope for someone that is interesting. We’ll probably just end up with Mo Cheeks and overpaying for Joe Johnson though.
If you're reading this signature, there's a good chance you don't like Vinny Del Negro.
Calipari won't have the upper hand in free agency, because he can't pay them like he did with recruits.
by benhertz on May 5, 2010 9:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
One of the reasons I don't like Rose
How come nobody talks about Rose’s family spreading the word that Bruce Webber is a racist around chicago? Something about UofI not paying him like Cal would. Ya know, cause Rose needed the $
Kirby Moore for Heisman
Nobody probably talks about it because he plays for the Bulls now and he's awesome.
If you're reading this signature, there's a good chance you don't like Vinny Del Negro.
by Juiceboxjerry on May 5, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
of all the things people don't like here
Rose is infallible. I’m an Illini grad and I’ll happily say Bruce Weber is a racist if Rose told me so.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Rose had 'dislike' immunity for at least one year...
from the date of his monstrous dunk on Dragic. He gets an additional year for his 39-5-7 game against the Celtics to close out the season. Tack on one more year for proving that not even The Drama King can guard him. :P
by Dr. Handsome, D.D.S. on May 6, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
if Bruce Weber doesn't want to worry about paying players
than he should move to the NBA, where the GMs handle it.
by Basketball Smurf on May 6, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
I figured you guys would be fine with that. Just seems to me that he’s in it for money and fame a little too much. I’m positive he loves the game, but his off-court issues have been some weird/overlooked ones.
Kirby Moore for Heisman
They're all in it for money and fame...
Have you ever listened to a Rose interview? Guy’s ridiculously humble for a star NBA player.
Brad Miller is god.
Oh my gosh...
Derrick Rose is from a big family and one of the most violent, drug infested, poverty stricken area’s of the country. The Chicago crime on the West side is so bad they are literally talking about bringing in the National guard to help police the area.
I’m sure that besides God given talent, his hunger for money is probably the reason he’s so damn good and motivated. The proverbial carrot on the end of the stick was a outrageously different (better) life for him and his loved ones.
As far as his off the court issues, I think part of is that Derrick is SO unassuming. When people tell him, “You don’t have to take your SAT, trust us, this is how it goes, just don’t talk about it, but every good ball player does this…” I’m sure he listens. And when a sleaze like Calipari gets his mits on him, all bets are off.
But, I do think Derrick is genuine, I think he’s a good person, and I love him as a ballplayer, so, yes, I’m wiling to rationalize and overlook some off the court issues. As long as he’s not raping anybody or shooting up strip clubs.
2010... where relevant basketball in Chicago happens!
Who cares? Go be pious anywhere other than a freaking Chicago Bulls blog.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on May 7, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd take Kevin Mchale
or JVG
As long as we can get spend our max money on a max player
"Michael Redd's owed 18.3 million next year. He can either opt out like an idiot or opt in like a douche bag." - NittanyCub
by Trey23 on May 5, 2010 9:36 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
NO COLLEGE COACHES
I can’t think of any truly succesful college coaches in the NBA ever.
I generally agree, but would make an exception for...
Izzo.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein
by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 5, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Larry Brown?
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Gregg Popovich?
Chuck Daly?
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Voted Calapari
For recruiting purposes only. JVG teams do not do well on offense but if we get LeBron or Wade JVG would be best for intensity reasons. Another thing Calapari is fishy like Pitino…. JVG is a coach and in his head will always be a coach a genuine love for the game.
What is with this Bill Laimbeer thing!?!?
Its either you are 16 and dont know your past or your 61 and you forgot it.
Thats like saying Rondo or Posey will coach the Bulls in 20 years. Hire Laimbeer and grab the taser because I wont let him sit on our bench.
by TRiCioNeRo on May 5, 2010 10:53 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Bill Laimbeer basketball for N64 was good though....
I said something nice im not a hater now.
You do realize Laimbeer won 3 titles...
He obviously knows a thing or two about coaching…especially in the X’s and O’s department….
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on May 5, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
or the y department
as in chromosome. get it?
(apologies…for reading D2.0. Kidding he did have a point here, Lambeer has some coaching chops)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 6, 2010 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good one!
He is a good coach anyone as competitive as him would be but….. Hes Bill Laimbeer. Thats a huge pill to swallow. If someone told me that Bill Laimbeer should lead my team 20 some odd years ago I would of thrown up times have changed though I just get an ulcer everytime someone wants him here.
I still wish the Bulls had hired Rick Carlisle when they had the chance.
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by Shawn Domagal-Goldman on May 5, 2010 10:53 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
if we got jeff hornacek...
would he rub derrick’s cheeks before he went to the line?
by Uncle Stanley McGoober on May 5, 2010 11:30 PM CDT reply actions
How about Mike Fratello?
Read somewhere just now that Hornets want to interview him for the job. And how come we don’t hear any of that from the Bulls?
"You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless! You gotta hope even more, and cover your ears and go 'bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla!'"
I certainly wouldn't mind JVG
But I put him on the same tier Lawrence Frank, Kevin McHale, Dwane Casey, or Sam Mitchell. Yeah JVG won before, but he also had very talented rosters to work with. He’s only an average coach IMO. Then again, nobody here really stands out as a potentially great coach, except some of the assistants like Corbine or Thibodeau, but we want somebody with experience, supposedly.
Anyways, my choice is Calipari. If the rumors that he could sway Lebron are remotely true, he should be the no.1 option. Players win championships in the NBA, not coaches.
Brad Miller is god.
We are rumored to be looking at
coaches with NBA head coaching experience, but I’m curious about Brian Shaw… he’s who I wanted when we hired Vinny.
2010... where relevant basketball in Chicago happens!
I'm thinking Mo Cheeks
Van Gundy just doesn’t appeal to me at all. The defensive philosophies I like, but I don’t think he meshes with our players, he seems more like a coach for a team of vets.
Scott, Frank, Johnson, and Collins, I put all in the same boat as guys that I don’t want to even come close to getting on the sidelines for us. Even though, Scott may be the one I’d be the least opposed to if he has some strong assistants.
McHale and Laimbeer are intriguing picks. McHale has always seemed to have success with less wheneva he’s had to take over Minnesota. Laimbeer has to have a great strategic mind, cuz that’s what basically wins in the women’s game.
But my choice, and I know he’s a darkhorse is Mo Cheeks. I think the Philly experience was a disaster waiting to happen, but with the Jailblazers, he put together solid seasons, even though the teams were going thru so much trouble. Those teams always seemed fairly fast paced to me, and he worked well with young talent. He knows how to teach a PG, look at what he did with Damon Stoudamire, plus he was always known as a strong defender from the position (Rose’s biggest weakness). I heard he would probably bring Ron Adams back as an assistant for defensive purposes. Right now, they both r assistants on the OKC Thunder bench and look at that squad.
by Ceasaleo on May 6, 2010 3:37 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
hire barkley, kenny, ernie and webber
that will be a lot of fun
by trig on May 6, 2010 4:51 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Casey didn't even make the list?
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by Grinder in Training on May 6, 2010 8:29 AM CDT reply actions
God there are too many candidates - I should have included him
It is late but I added Casey, Fratello and Brian Shaw
I voted Tom Thibodeau
I still think that’s the best choice. Solid defense, previous head coaching experience, lots of NBA assistant coaching experience. Only downsides are no NBA head coaching experience (I think?) and questionable offense, but I think a good assistant coaching hire can fix the 2nd thing.
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Kirk Hinrich... if that opens cap space
Well, think about about. He would keep the team together. He is a glue guy (so glue nothing can remove here from chicago)
jvg has to be the choice if he is truly available
after that its pretty meh… youve got calipari the recruiter, or guys like scott/avery/frank/casey.. id put scott last of that group. i dont want any coach who plays bobby brown over darren collison and marcus thornton
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Wayne Casey?
Like the guy from KC and the Sunshine Band?
I guess he’s a better choice than Mike Dunleavy, who is also in this poll.
I DON'T CARE!!!!!
I WANT THE BEST FREE AGENT AVAILABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by JustAnotherFan on May 6, 2010 2:30 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Things change pretty quickly - everyone wants this job
There are twenty candidates on this list – unbelievable!
I dont like JVG, hes an freaking asshole
by summeralicia20111 on May 7, 2010 9:23 AM CDT reply actions
RUDY T,
we have a gig for you, I hope your health is okay, “Never underestimate the HEART OF A CHAMPION”.
Sam Mitchell gets 0 votes?
and now I’m all about Sam Mitchell. Ahh, I should have voted for realistic candidates…
Bosh or Bust
It'll be interesting to see what this poll looks like a week from now.
or even a month from now (knowing that the bulls won’t yet have a coach by then).
Bosh or Bust
by JockstrapNoah on May 11, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
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