Bulls-centric draft lottery thread
by MPG on May 18, 2010 6:49 PM CDT
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As we all know, tonight's the night that badly managed organizations, like the Bulls, can fall ass-backwards into a franchise changing star. Make no mistake - if that 1 and 7/10ths ping pong ball hadn't bounced our way, we'd be sweating it out right now, watching highlights of John Wall in his weirdly tight jersey and baggy shorts. Unfortunately, tonight, similarly low odds have the chance to bite us in the ass.
It's debatable how much of an impact the worst case scenario can have in determining free agency. Everyone seems to think the world of John Wall, for instance - who might have led the nation in turnovers as a point guard if it hadn't been for Evan Turner - despite the fact that he could not do with perhaps 4 first round picks what Derrick Rose did with none. So let's debate it. What's the doomsday scenario for us, and what's the best?
And the always popular - who you got at 17?
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At 17
I’m on the James Anderson boat, I have a feeling the Nets won’t land the No. 1 pick, it will be the Pacers, followed by the Jazz, and Kings
I'll take the Warriors, then the Pistons, then the Timberwolves
Wait, what? I’m not even sure what we’re doing.
But just for fun, let’s play NBA Conspiracy Game. Pick a team whose front office has screwed up miserably in recent years, but has enough talent where a #1/#2/#3 pick can either turn them into a contender or save them from relocation! See: 2009 Clippers, Grizz, Thunder, 2008 Bulls, Heat, 2007 Blazers, Sonics, Hawks. Not sure how the 2008 T’Wolves (#3 pick) slipped through.
In my opinion, bottom-10-record teams who would most benefit the NBA with a top 3 pick:
1. New Jersey
2. Sacramento
3. Philadelphia
4. LA Clippers
5. Detroit
Sorry Timberwolves, Warriors, Wizards, Jazz, possibly Pacers. You have no future and there are no rumors of moving your teams. Maybe next year.
lol
I would up Detroit to 4 and move LA to 5, maybe 6. Maybe trade Philly and Sacramento.
Back from the dead
by JustAnotherFan on May 18, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
defnintely rumors of moving the Pacers
so put them in :)
I want a webcam at TJ Ford’s place (or the club he happens to be at) if Pacers get #1 overall
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 18, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Pacers get #1 pick(they are due)
TJ Ford begins to down a fifth of vodka
by QUINTEN DALEY on May 18, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Realizing Bird
is about to SHUT DOWN THE CARTER on his stint as a Pacer.
by QUINTEN DALEY on May 18, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
and then you lost me.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 18, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
You know...."SHUT DOWN THE CARTER"...
You get it, right?
uhhhhh …Actually….Yeah, I don’t get it either.
Then I’m leaning on NJ & the Kings…
Tyreke is gonna be a big star and getting Wall may give the NBA a big money making franchise again…
That and NJ’s going Russian soon…
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The Jazz or Hornets would be most interesting...
Who would they take #1 overall or would they become the first team since the Magic to trade the #1 overall pick for three future first round picks and the #3?
Detroit and Indiana can suck it, no team in the Bulls division deserve any sort of breaks…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
id like to see NOH get it. chris paul needs a team.
"Oh don't look so smug. You try skating and blowing into a jug while your heart is breaking."
I'd agree with that.
Western conference so doesn’t hurt the Bulls as much as many otamsher te, and fun to watch.
Would make it a Must-See game for me again when he comes to town if he had another elite player.
"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times
by Grinder in Training on May 18, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
i wonder who they would take if they won? i think id go for cousins, but it would be nice
to see paul finally play with a dynamic wing player in turner.
"Oh don't look so smug. You try skating and blowing into a jug while your heart is breaking."
They still wouldnt be that good
CP3 has got to get out of there
Who knows could always trade the pick.
Lots of options for a team like that.
"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times
by Grinder in Training on May 18, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
An even better team to root for:
the Utah Jazz; just to stick it to those arrogant Knicks fans.
Of course the Jazz would probably select Turner at #1, but I can’t help but laugh at NYK fans and their presumptious ownership of LeBron’s thoughts and aspirations. They deserve to be let down.
Me too
Id like to see the Kings get it…Wall and Reke would be fun to watch.
Lance Stephenson
This guy is going to be good.
Lance Stephenson
Last year he was ranked top 5 of his class. I have him as the 7th best prospect.
Wall
Turner
Cousins
Favors
Johnson
Henry
Stephenson
I wouldn't mind the bulls pick him,as long as he learns how to stay out of trouble
Stephenson will be a good pick for some team but i don’t think the bulls will draft him in june, becasuse they only work out paul george, james johnson, xavier henry and samardo samuels the last couple of days ago. I would like the bulls to move up and trade up and pick henry, i think he is the best outside shooter in this years draft.
I was listening to the Dan Patrick show yesterday
and they had Chris Mannix on, who has to be just awful at his job, because they asked him about the Lebron sweepstakes and he said the lottery is gonna be a game changer. Why? Because if the Bulls get the number one pick and have a chance at Wall that could sway Lebron towards Chicago, Umm…
If you're reading this signature, there's a good chance you don't like Vinny Del Negro.
Haha,
that’s pretty misinformed. Like he googled some shit before the lottery and then got Chicago and New Jersey mixed up…
2010... where relevant basketball in Chicago happens!
Wow
Joakim on whether he ever tried tennis: "I played a little bit. If anybody on the Bulls wanted to play me, I would kick their ass."
As long as it isn't NJ or LA
And I’m not sure about anyone else but I’m gonna be watching the Raptors pick closely.
I’m pretending their fate is what would have been ours if we missed the playoffs
One thing is certain
Check out Larry Birds face during the lottery
Larry Bird might need a traquelizer after tonight
dunno mayne
havent been following it..thought maybe it was the actual draft
"The Bulls Are Back" - D. Stern (2010)
Um...
You do know the season isn’t over yet right?
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on May 19, 2010 2:29 AM CDT up reply actions
2008 lottery retrospective
I cannot imagine the Bulls without Rose right now … phew! Like I did last year before the ’09 lottery, I got a kick out of rereading these posts and reactions.
http://www.blogabull.com/2008/5/20/523665/the-sum-of-all-hopes
http://www.blogabull.com/2008/5/20/524148/bulls-win-lottery-receive
http://www.blogabull.com/2008/5/20/524276/just-remind-yourself-every
Where 79-44 lead turns into a 4 point loss Happens
Wade 2010
Man, what if we drafted Beasley
and the Heat had Wade and Rose….?
by Stacey_Is_King on May 18, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Best case scenario from our perspective is this
1. Minnesota
2. GS
3. Jazz
4. Nets
5. Kings
6. Washington
7. Philly
8. Detroit
9. Clippers
The Nets missing out on a top 3 pick skewers their 2010 chances. The Clippers slipping to 9 also hurts them. The Kings getting a top 3 pick would also be bad. I don’t know why their name hasn’t come up in the 2010 discussion, but they have max cap space and Tyreke Evans + Wall/Turner would have to be very enticing for any free agent big. Throw in Carl Landry, Jason Thompson, Spencer Hawes, and Omri Casspi, and they have a ton of young talent.
Finally if the Jazz jumped up to no.3 and landed Cousins or Favors, they’d be a lot less likely to try and resign and Boozer, which is also good for us.
Brad Miller is god.
Oh, and GS landing Wall or Turner would make them a lot less likely to match offers for Morrow
Brad Miller is god.
Nice angle.
I hadn’t thought of that.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
I could see all 3 passing on Wall
The Kings, Bullets, 76ers, or Pistons have to pick before the Nets
No way in hell 3 teams pass on Wall
If Wall slips to no.3, Utah gets on the phone and trades the pick and there will be plenty of takers.
Brad Miller is god.
Regarding the Kings
Add Donte Greene to that mix of young talent, too. Plus, Udrih, Nocioni, and Francisco Garcia are also all signed through next year and each of them shoots 37%+ from 3-pt range. Why the hell aren’t the Kings looked at as a top 2010 destination? Let’s say they land Evan Turner and sign Bosh. That gives them this:
PG Udrih/Evans
SG Evans/Garcia/Turner
SF Turner/Casspi/Nocioni
PF Bosh/Landry/Greene/Thompson
C Thompson/Hawes
Are they a contender? Maybe not quite, but they’re at least as good as the Thunder were this year, and not one of those guys is over 30 except Noc, who probably plays less than 10 mpg on that team anyways. Maybe consolidate some of that talent by packaging a couple of their young bigs and Nocioni for an elite defensive-minded player at SF or C (Luol Deng would actually be a really good fit) and that’s a hell of a team.
Brad Miller is god.
because they are in sacramento
And unless they get a new arena they are leaving at some point.
by The90sBullsRevival on May 18, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Expanding on that
Let’s say they got any free agent PF and we got Lebron. Wouldn’t a trade of Luol Deng for Carl Landry, Francisco Garcia and Casspi make a lot of sense for both sides?
Brad Miller is god.
Despite all the hype about Lebron,
I’m still hoping for Bosh – I see the Knicks in the King’s future. As long as Toronto doesn’t win the lotto, I’m pretty happy.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
The problem is...
remember Durant and what’s his name. Portland “won” and Seattle “lost.” Well, not quite.
it doesn't actually matter who gets the player
Just what the perception is for free agents.
I'm not impressed by the russian dude
and I don’t get why everyone thinks he’s going to have a huge impact on the league. he has a lot of money? so what? a lot of owners have a lot of money.
The idea...
Is that he would be willing spend above the luxury tax with little financial conscience…ala Mark Cuban or James Dolan; and as such, money would be no object for his team’s pursuit of a title. This is contrasted with the ownership group in Chicago, who refused to pay tax for shitty teams in 00’s, and would not pay tax for Ben Gordon…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
ANDERSON
ESPN got anderson at 10. I really hope we can get him. He can shoot the 3
When the Bulls won, they had a 1.6% chance
How come no one has a 1.6% chance in this one? Have they changed the percentages?
It goes from 1.1 to 2.2
The 9th best chance (which is what the Bulls had in 08) is the one with a 2.2% chance
Interesting...
I think it was a 1.7% chance for Rose… but yeah, wierd.
2010... where relevant basketball in Chicago happens!
It was...
But the percentages can change if teams’ records are tied at the end of the season.
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
the lottery is onlly for the first 3 picks
after that they go by whoever has the worst record
by Basketball Smurf on May 18, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Can't they have a camera wherever Bron Bron is?
I wanna see his reaction when the Nets get the 3rd or 4th pick
by Option27 on May 18, 2010 7:13 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
in hindsight.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
Hey what time does this start?
(at work.. contemplating dipping like dippin dots)
"The Bulls Are Back" - D. Stern (2010)
Look at that watch on Tyreke!!!
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Kahn...
“We have good young players who are mostly young”
Idiot.
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Finally, its starting!!!
No surprises this far…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Aaron Brooks looks like Raj from "What's Happening?"
2010... where relevant basketball in Chicago happens!
by kidronmusic on May 18, 2010 7:20 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
LOL he looked EXACTLY like him
Joakim on whether he ever tried tennis: "I played a little bit. If anybody on the Bulls wanted to play me, I would kick their ass."
the one that looks like Aaron Brooks.
"What the fuck man?! GAD DAYUM!" -Ben Gordon, after being fouled by Chris Bosh, with no call.
Come back home, Ben.
haha!
That’s exactly what I was going to say!
He’s the one with the glasses.
2010... where relevant basketball in Chicago happens!
Dont be scared...
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
man..the hornets guys face is priceless
Bet Granger feels like a dumbass
"The Bulls Are Back" - D. Stern (2010)
Happy the Pistons missed out..
76ers and Washington moved up!!
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Sucks...
All three top picks are in the East…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Its tough to speculate with big men...
I mean Bosh was #4, Gasol #3…I think KG was like #7…you never know…but, I understand your position, Wall is probably least likely to “bust”…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
good competition with rose
rose vs rondo
rose vs wall
rose vs jennings
i can dig it
"The Bulls Are Back" - D. Stern (2010)
Withuy a little help from a guy
you know big free agent comingf to CHICAGO Rose is gonna tear them apart every given night!
General manager needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen.
Sir Paxdorf.
by Azabullsfan on May 18, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I want the Bullets to get him...
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
fuckin Nets.
I bet that Russian guy would give Lebron one million dollars a day under the table…
Eh,
I’d rather the Wizards get #1, but the important this is Nets as low as possible…
2010... where relevant basketball in Chicago happens!
wow just a random thought
wall goes to philly..and iggy sign and trade to cavs for lebron
"The Bulls Are Back" - D. Stern (2010)
Cavs wouldn't do that
They still couldn’t make any other moves, and all you did was substitute Lebron for Iguodala, locking yourself into financial inflexibility for a team that’s significantly worse than the one that couldn’t pass the 2nd round.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
Nets #3!!!!
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Jigga FAIL
"The Bulls Are Back" - D. Stern (2010)
by Belize on May 18, 2010 7:26 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Bullets Forever!!!
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Who will be their next Kwame???
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
Irene Pollin:
“I’d like to thank Gilbert Arenas for bringing a gun into the locker room.”
by Big D on May 18, 2010 7:26 PM CDT reply actions 9 recs
Ha!
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
LMAO
That’s the post of the night.
Joakim on whether he ever tried tennis: "I played a little bit. If anybody on the Bulls wanted to play me, I would kick their ass."
Suck it, Nyets!
No more talk about how pairing Lebron with Wall.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
Great news for the Bulls.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on May 18, 2010 7:29 PM CDT reply actions
john wall was the nets only chance.
thats that.
by Revlution4ever on May 18, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Favors has so much upside and Cousins is a nice low post threat
I’m just saying, they’re gonna be nice in the future
And if they get Gay or someone like that...
Harris
Lee/CDR
Gay/Williams
Favors/Yi
Lopez
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on May 18, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the draft work out better for the nets
picking either cousins or favors, most likely cousins, they need another big man, to play the powerforward position, instead of another point guard
Yeah it is
and it’s not like PG was really a need anyway.
Joakim on whether he ever tried tennis: "I played a little bit. If anybody on the Bulls wanted to play me, I would kick their ass."
Man, if the Wiz kept Butler and Jamison
they could have built around Wall and try and dump Arenas contract on sum sucker
"The Bulls Are Back" - D. Stern (2010)
No one was taking Arenas
They knew they were stuck with him, which is why they traded everyone else.
They can trade Wall, but the enthusiasm factor makes that a really bad sell in Washington.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
Is it even a given that the Wizards take Wall?
Probably, but would they be better off with someone else?
"What the fuck man?! GAD DAYUM!" -Ben Gordon, after being fouled by Chris Bosh, with no call.
Come back home, Ben.
Do they want Arenas arround to "corrupt" Wall?
I’m not sure they can get rid of him if they want to. Maybe to the knicks?
by The90sBullsRevival on May 18, 2010 7:31 PM CDT reply actions
That's the best part
They have to take him and will never be able to unload Arenas’ contract. And they have no more trade assets besides Blatche
Only if they fail miserably
in free agency. Is anyone in NY excited about Arenas plus one of the available Free Agents?
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
That might all the knicks can get
New york might be popular but you need players or at least one good player there to attract others to come and i don’t see anyone coming that wants to win a championship……like lebron, wade and bosh coming to N.Y
They're probably better off waiting another year
for Carmelo, then. Of course, D’Antoni will have committed suicide by then.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
He sure is.
1.7%? And now this?
We’re probably gonna end up signing Lebron + Bosh.
by Stacey_Is_King on May 18, 2010 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions
You know how this ALSO benefits the Bulls?
With Favors and Cousins available at the 3rd spot, they won’t be spending all that free agent money on a PF. They need a wing badly. They just might be the ones who overpay Joe Johnson!
by Option27 on May 18, 2010 7:36 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This couldn't have been...
much better for the Bulls. I never bought that Lebron would go to NJ to play with Wall. But, I did think he could be used in a possible sign and trade for a 2nd free agent (i.e. Bosh) to couple with Lebron. I was waiting for Prokhorov to start flipping tables. The ball is very much in our court – pun intended!
Wow, John Wall with Arenas as his swagger coach? This will be interesting.
Cousins to NJ would just be too easy of a self-fulfilling prophecy for Derrick Coleman 2.0
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
question
do the wizards have any cap space?
i cant recall. i know they were stuck in shit when they started the season but i was under the impression they traded to get cap space when they blew up their team
They have a ton of cap space.
Even with Arenas, they should have 25 million in space.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on May 18, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Hahah. Someone will make that argument.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on May 18, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Leave that to Biden.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on May 18, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
With over 40 days until free agency?
I’d bet my house on it.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
And play in MJ's shadow?
No way :)
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on May 19, 2010 2:36 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
They have space
But he’d be better off staying in Cleveland. They have a better supporting cast than anything Washington can offer, even with Wall.
If they decline the options on Josh Howard and dont offer Randy Foye the QO
They have a lot of cap space.
http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/wizards.jsp
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
From True Hoop
Washington Wizards: $41.02 million in 2010-11 payroll
It’s a safe bet that they’ll decline the team option on Josh Howard’s $11.84 million. If we project that Quinton Ross exercises his $1.15 million player option and the Wizards hang onto their high draft pick (let’s project it as the No. 4 overall pick) and Cleveland’s late first-rounder, they’d be committed to roughly $33 million for eight bodies. Do they extend a $4.8 million qualifying offer to guard Randy Foye? If they do, that brings them up to approximately $38 million, maybe enough wiggle room to offer a max contract. Without Foye, they’ve got plenty to offer a max player.
They probably resign...
Miller and Howard for cheaper.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on May 18, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
They'll both be free agents
Why sign back with Washington when you can go anywhere?
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
We dodged a bullet (ha! two puns) fellas.
Better yet – with a low post presence in Lopez, perhaps they don’t need cousins? Because I would LOVE the cousins/Noah front court.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Cousins is a head case
Has a lot of talent but he is going to cause an organization a lot of headaches.
Thomas and Cousins are entirely different players.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on May 18, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolutley right.
Thomas is out of his mind. Cousins is out of his FUCKING mind.
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
by The Red Menace on May 18, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
They'll probably trade the pick
as the talent drops off and they won’t want to reach….but yeah it sucks for them
you could turn Jefferson into value at other positions and
then bring in Cousins who will probably (at some pt) be a similar player to Jefferson
Excellent point.
They’re going to need a wing. Sign Lebron – then Deng for Jefferson?
Rose
Draftpick
Lebron
Jefferson
Noah
Championship?
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
fuck richard jefferson
Please find Jay Cutler some help...
by Jbasic89 on May 18, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i literally was scrolling down and saw the name jefferson and was immediately angry
Please find Jay Cutler some help...
He's kidding.
Right?
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Jefferson not best option
LBJ and Cleveland played better without Shaq. Sign & Trade Lebron for Deng. Sign Troy Murphy and JJ Redick.
not sure bud.
watching boston…it really is great to have a) post play b) a strong defender.
The poster formerly known as Freethefro.
Unless Jefferson turns into his healthy self again.
Most great teams have a low post scorer.. it’s not like he’s going to be standing directly in front of the basket stopping Rose from getting layups (there’s a rule for that).
That's what I'm thinking
Although I don’t want him. Would have said yes a couple years ago, but that knee will always be an issue and he’s a black hole once he gets the ball. This team needs a guy who can play with Rose well.
they should take Aminu
Aminu, Love, Pekovic, Jefferson….
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Another added bonus.
John Wall vs Derrick Rose at least 3 times a year. Wall/Rondo/Rose fighting for All-Star spots for years to come, I’m happy.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
I think i just jizzed.
Must… purchase ….season tickets!!!
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by The Red Menace on May 18, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks.
Now i got THAT image in my head!
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by The Red Menace on May 18, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
And frankly, I'm pleased he's in Washington.
They’re really quite awful. Some Wall vs. Rose: good. Wall four times a year? Could be a headache. I’m quite happy to have Derrick as the undisputed king of the central division guards. Let him fight for best in the east.
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The East is so crappy, it's good to see the top 3 picks stay in one conference.
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by Ozzie Montana on May 18, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
with the exception of wall
i dont see those other 2 picks making a huge impact on the balance of power in the league
with the kind of attention john walls been getting
i think he might get voted in by next year. hopefully rose gets voted in but dunno. it’ll be interesting to see
he's going to be on Washington...
there are no other players there! Teams will be able to focus solely on Wall and force him into jumpers. Also, it’s hard to get voted into the ASG playing for losing teams. Rose came into a team with some talent as did Jennings and they both missed the ASG.. not to mention Deron Williams and Rajon Rondo who each took 3-4 years. I think with Rondo getting hyped like he is now, expect him to have a good shot at making the ASG next year if healthy. Wall could end up in Deron Williams position, great player but stuck in line for an ASG berth.
something tells me that wall's gonna end up shooting more free throws than derrick
I'm cuckoo for Kukoc!!!
Will he finish at the rim or hit floaters as well as Derrick?
That’s the true test. You can’t live on free throws and jumpshots unless you’re Steve Nash or Kevin Durant.
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by Ozzie Montana on May 18, 2010 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
rose wasnt getting the attention walls been getting for the past year maybe 2
rose wasnt a number pick until his little run in the tournament
wall has been getting hyped since he was in highschool as the number 1 pick.
i hope rose gets voted in but i see wall stealing a good portion of votes in a year or two
That's only because of the talent surrounding Rose in that draft class
But he was getting a lot of attention
west and east, perfect symmetry now
rose/rondo/wall
vs
cp3/d-will/tyreke
nice!
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by anorexorcist on May 18, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Lebron and Bosh!!
Get your popcorn ready!!
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-Jake Lamotta
I like jennings too,
but he’s not at derrick or rondo’s level. nor will he be.
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Kirk Hinrich: Dudes!! This purple haze is AWSOME!!
Soooo what’re you guys talkin about?
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by The Red Menace on May 18, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
After watching Wall play, he might be a tad overrated.
he can’t shoot off the dribble, and he gets no elevation on his jump shot…it’s almost like a set shot
The stars are lining up - it's almost.......too perfect.
I mean, could this not be going any better for us? It’s scary.
Don't you DARE ruin my buzz!!
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by The Red Menace on May 18, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
Sorry just dont wana get hopes up ….I cant actually imagine Lebron as a bull and chicago having sucess again because of 11 years of dissapointed
It's cool, Mr. Ross...
You’re still the mutherfuckin boss!
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by The Red Menace on May 18, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
one more star: suns 4-0 comeback and knock the lakers out
phil announces hes not coaching lakers next season
phil to return to bulls
yes lets make it happen!
Actually, a Lakers championship win...
would be the best scenario for the Bulls. The Lakers would be far less likely to do a Bynum/Bosh sign and trade if they know they can win a title with what they have now.
by rinconen on May 18, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I actually think the opposite.
If the Lakers win, what else does he really have to prove? We don’t even know if Phil will coach any team next year. We do know Bosh will play next year. I’d rather have Bosh still in play than Phil.
i agree with option
phil will stay if they win. thats a team more than capable of winning another ring
the allure
of being able to say he coached jordan, then kobe, then lebron, and got all 3 of them their titles. says it all, IMO.
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by anorexorcist on May 19, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Bosh in LA
Is good news for Lebron in Chicago. That would be an amazing team in LA and Lebron would have to pick the best winning option which is Chicago. He can’t beat Bosh/Kobe/Pau team with what he has in Cleveland and what New York has. But the Bulls give him a shot if they can add someone like Joe Johnson or David Lee in a sign & trade.
Lakers Championship gives Lebron even more reason to come to Chicago
Think about it, Lebron will be going “Oh man Kobe’s got 5 already, I need to go and start winning some rings”
Ultimately, it will be be all about winning for Lebron- and Chicago has that answer
….I hope
do we really want Phil?
I don’t think it matters what coach we have if LeBron decides to come here
im sorry but i dont believe lebron alone can win a championship
we need a qualified coach if we get lebron. by getting lebron we give ourselves the talent to win it all but it takes a good coach to put that talent together and make the best of it.
if we get lebron that means we really are going all in for a championship and if thats the case we need a good coach and not another random hire
LeBron and a S/T with Deng for anyone would give the Bulls the best talent in the East
If we get Bosh or Joe Johnson along with LeBron then it’s a lock to win a championship. If we get LeBron and keep Deng then we might lose to the Lakers next year in the Finals.
Regardless of who are coach is. Put Pete Meyers at head coach and we’d still win.
you win the east most likely sure
but can you guarantee we beat the lakers?
look at all that damn talent the cavs had. if you have no coach talent is wasted. talent only goes so far.
you need a coach to put it all together.
i promise you the spurs arent 4 time champs without pop
and the lakers dont have a three peat without phil
obviously we need a competent coach
but like jordan said during his HOF speech, “It’s a players’ league”
I just don’t think we need Jeff Van Gundy or Doug Collins to bring us to the Finals with LeBron. We can get it done with Lawrence Frank, Sam Mitchell, etc.
i think frank and mitchell are fine
but definitely not a random scrub or whatever the hell lebron says he wants.
it needs to be a decent qualified coach.
and fuck jordan’s player’s league bs
you need a gm to trade/draft/build the right team
you need a competent coach with a gameplan
and you need a star player to execute those plans on the court
The president supports lebron to the Bulls?
wait. that kinda happened.
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This really is...
Reinsdorf’s summer to screw up. I mean, if he can’t sell Chicago to any big free agents, he must be the worst sales person ever.
Agreed.
This whole thing is his to lose.
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Fuck! I was gonna say that!!
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by The Red Menace on May 18, 2010 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
i thought what he did
was like a breach of the contract, and they had the right to cancel the deal with him? i thought I heard that when he first got into all the trouble.
I'm cuckoo for Kukoc!!!
My guess is...
Knicks
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by JustAnotherFan on May 18, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
i hear new york city has some pretty strict gun laws
Please find Jay Cutler some help...
by Jbasic89 on May 18, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We need to get Redick and Bron-Bron.
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by Super-Structure on May 18, 2010 8:11 PM CDT reply actions
one suitor out, another in?
Wiz have max cap room…
nah.
I still think that Nets have a decent case in terms of roster even after this. Also a good case of, er, ‘boldness’ for LeBron. Bad case of Newark.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 18, 2010 8:16 PM CDT reply actions
i dont think wizards have a legit chance at lebron
but we all know the media is going to spin it.
the only tiny thing they have going for them is that john wall and lebron are supposedly buddy buddy and lebron has been trying to recruit him to join his marketing group or whatever but i doubt lebron makes a basketball decision based solely on his marketing ideas but who knows
LeBron tried to recruit him, but failed.
Wiz are certainly a big media market. They got a good coach too. But their present-day roster pieces could be seen as having upside, but is just way too unknown. Even the aged Cavaliers at least have some certainty in their play.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 18, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah i dont think its going to happen either
but you know the media is going to make some nonsense out of that little tidbit
I'll swipe this joke from a RealGM poster
LeBron wouldn’t play in Washington since it’d be in Jordan’s shadow
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 18, 2010 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Now THATS funny!!
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by The Red Menace on May 18, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Fantastic
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by Juiceboxjerry on May 18, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha!
I said the same thing above then just read this!
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on May 19, 2010 2:45 AM CDT up reply actions
No way....
Lebron goes to Washington. What was the last championship team to have a rookie starter?
well, that's an airtight case.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 18, 2010 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If Lebron goes to Washington i will fucking kill myself.
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by The Red Menace on May 18, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
thought that too
Smith was the starter, but Casell was the rookie.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 18, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah couldnt remember who started in that scenario
i thought he mightve been a 6th man guess not hah
Lebron + Obama
Obama would go to every Wizards home game.
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by NBA Observer on May 18, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
as I told Mike over there
it just means a month of them pretending to argue that they won’t take Wall :)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 18, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
They gotta talk about something
Although I have no idea who they go for in free agency.
They don’t need a PF and don"t need a SG. Maybe Rudy Gay?
not a bad idea, even if he's not likely to be 'worth' a near-max deal
he’s at least young.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 18, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
He's from the area too
not D.C. but Maryland.
Joakim on whether he ever tried tennis: "I played a little bit. If anybody on the Bulls wanted to play me, I would kick their ass."
Two sides
Mike Conley is not so good
But…
Zach Randolph + Arenas = Memphis Bullets
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by JustAnotherFan on May 18, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Mayo play SG, arenas would be PG
Then they trade Conley for a SF.
But I don’t think Gay would like to go there
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by JustAnotherFan on May 18, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
the lebron wall is a nice angle for the media
but seriously? if lebron wants to win, there’s no way in hell he’s going to washington.
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
The wizards should pick Turner over Wall
right now, i think turner is a little better than wall, specially shooting the ball and the wizards already have a point guard and probably won’t be able to trade him either
The NEW LOOK BULLS will be winning titles in the meantime.
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by The Red Menace on May 18, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
lebrons 25 correct?
i can see us winning 10 straight titles.
lets go big and aim for russell’s record!
by sin on May 18, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Arenas contract is a monster
Good luck trading that. Although, if the Knicks strikeout this summer I think they’ll pursue Gilbert.
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by NBA Observer on May 18, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
It could be a last move for the Cavs to hold LeBron
if he likes Arenas
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by JustAnotherFan on May 18, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
My ultimate dream is that the James-Rose Bulls win 4 straight titles.
This is something the Jordan-Pippen Bulls never did! This is for the NEW generation of Bulls fans!
"You never got me down, Ray. Ya hear me? Never got me down."
-Jake Lamotta
If we get an offensive big to go with James+Rose.....
It COULD happen!
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by The Red Menace on May 18, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
personally id rather have a defensive big that wont need the ball
lebron and rose are going to be taking enough shots as it is
So...
Does this pretty much book it? LeBron the Bull? I have to say yes. LeBron should be a Chicago Bull. Maybe the Heat is the only other real threat now. Fingers crossed.
The ULTIMATE battle....
This is like a SPEILBERG movie!
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by The Red Menace on May 18, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Lebron is OURS!!
Screw Pat Riley and his perfect hair! And screw Cleveland with their………..their………
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by The Red Menace on May 18, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Screw their factories!
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Flats.
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
I'm still feelin the Knicks, Lebron just seems like he's that type of guy
Gotta say these rumors are spicing it up though
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by Juiceboxjerry on May 18, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Right now it looks like we have a very nice chance of nailing either LeBron or Bosh
I’d rather have LeBron but I won’t be sad with Bosh. Won’t be sad at all
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by JustAnotherFan on May 18, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
poor, naive, SoulEater
don’t come to me when you’ve driven your car onto train tracks and/or in a lake.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 18, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well since you of all people show hope
We’re already fucked. Time to buy my Joe Johnson jersey.
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by Ozzie Montana on May 18, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lol, we need to come up with a name for it, like "The Souleater Kiss of Death" or something
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by Juiceboxjerry on May 18, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I haven't read through this whole thread to gauge what people are thinking
but this has gotta be considered a dream scenario for the Bulls right? I guess we could’ve wanted the Nets 4th, but that’s being a little greedy. The Wiz are no threat to us.
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Pretty much. This woreked out damn well.
There’s no way Washington is as attractive as Chicago, New Jersey got screwed, All Jefferson might become expendable, and Toronto can pretty much bid adieu to Bosh. All and all: Bron’s one’s step closer.
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Oh yea, I forgot about not wanting the Raps to get it, very nice
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by Juiceboxjerry on May 18, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I think this is a great draft
So I’m a little disappointed that three eastern conference teams won the lottery. The Sixers getting Turner is massive since they need a shooting guard. Nets could have an all-NBA interior for a long time. But yeah, no Nets #1 is nice.
hasn't that been said for the past few years?
yet the East always seems to continue to blow
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 18, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's see who will be this year's michael beasley
“maybe better than durant” they said…
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by JustAnotherFan on May 18, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't look at it like that
by sheer numbers of quality teams, sure the Western Conference is superior. But I like to look at it by the number of elite teams in each conference. I would say there’s only one elite team in the West while there are three (Boston seems to have shockingly joined this group) in the East. All it takes is the improvement of one or two teams in the East and age catching up with a couple teams like Phoenix and Dallas and we should start seeing a power shift.
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by Juiceboxjerry on May 18, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
i think if anything these playoffs proved theres really only one or two elite teams in the east
atlanta is far far far far away from one. cleveland is a one man show
id say boston and the lakers are the two elite teams and maybe orlando a close 3rd
that being said the west has a ton more quality teams which makes the playoffs alot more exciting and the playoff race
meanwhile you have the east where no one. and i mean NO ONE had any doubt the bottom 4 were going to lose since they barely even belonged there
One thing though: Washingtons' got Obama...
No wait….WE got Obama! HA HA HA HAAAAAAAA!!!!
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LOL Holy shit!!!
Hilarious!
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by The Red Menace on May 18, 2010 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
i dont know
you may be underestimating the amount of guns in kentucky
Please find Jay Cutler some help...
it was supposed to be a play on words
seeing as to how badly that kentucky team failed in the tournament from lack of shooters
Spewing?
His head will explode!!
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by The Red Menace on May 18, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
If Knicks dont get Lebron or Bosh
How many more years will they suck for? I wish there was a way of working this out
Depends on who the overpay for...
But at least 3, because, I think they’ve traded away their next 3 first round draft picks. And if they max out their cap room on Joe Johnson and Carlos Boozer, they will be a lottery team in 3 years, and might get better if they draft well.
I’d guess that NY is bad for at least 6 more years.
2010... where relevant basketball in Chicago happens!
My two cents:
1. Sign James
2. Trade Deng + cash/pick to Portland for Rudy Fernandez + Webster
3. Trade Gibson to Utah for Millsap (free some cap space for Utah)
Any thoughts?
Firstly Salaries dont match
Millsap : $10,300,000
Taj : $1,039,800
Secondly : Millsap is a Way better player than TAJ
been in the League 3 more years than TAJ
And is About the same age as TAJ…( one year older)
Averages Better numbers than TAJ playing off the Bench
Millsap : 11.8 PPG off Bench 53% Shooting off the bench
Taj : 9 PPG as a starter, 49% shooting as a starter
Millsap as a starter : 13.5 PPG , 8.6 rebounds, 53% shooting
Utah signed Millsap a 4 year 32 Million Contract this Season
This move makes no sense for Utah
the salaries don't have to match
we have cap space
Where did you get the salary for Millsap?
My sources tell me he is making $7.6M next season…
I read the same rumor, that the Jazz would be willing to trade Millsap when they resign Boozer…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
not sure how much Gibson for Milsap improves us
I’d say better offense but maybe worse defense
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by JustAnotherFan on May 18, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Then maybe we keep Gibson?
Is a starting lineup of Rose-Fernadez-James-Gibson-Noah enough to win a title?
I like Fernandez attitude
But I have a problem with his lack of consistency.
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by JustAnotherFan on May 18, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
You are not sure how a four year veteran...
With a career 17.3 PER, 114 ORTG and 103 DRTG would improve the Bulls?
Millsap is much better than Gibson, and would be an ideal compliment to a team with Lebron, Noah and Rose…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on May 19, 2010 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
If we somehow sign LeBron and draft someone like Anderson or Henry, we will be fine.
"You know what Neil, stop being such a sourpuss." - Stacey King
I'm assuming we would need to get rid of Deng...
So, I guess my main question is whether we could put together a trade for another scorer.
Why not play Deng at 4?
Taj is fine off the bench. If we sign LeBron I don’t see any problem with trying Deng at power forward. He’s not a natural there but I don’t see the point in trading him for players of lesser talent just because they play power forward.
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you dont see a problem playing deng at the 4 until you run into the lakers
where their front court will destroy ours
Am I the only one...
who thinks Taj is a legit starter?
yes, I think you are
(or I hope you are)
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by JustAnotherFan on May 18, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
he's a legit starter for a 45 win team
not a team trying to win a championship
No
It depends on who the rest of the starters are. You don’t need an all star at every position, and a Taj without plantar fasciitis who improves even a little over how he played at the end of the year could certainly be league average.
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mean sig.
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right under the picture of an old, old lady?
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on May 19, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Boston won again
Is this going to make LeBron think his team didn’t suck that bad?
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by JustAnotherFan on May 18, 2010 10:37 PM CDT reply actions
im more worried about how its going to effect us getting doc rivers
Please find Jay Cutler some help...
at this point it already would be really dump to fire Rivers
even if they lose the next 4
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by JustAnotherFan on May 18, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Neither will they let him go w/o comp
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by JustAnotherFan on May 18, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's more like
Why the hell is this team going to make the Finals (sorry Orlando no faith in a team with Dwight and VC) when they were a .500 team after Christmas? Pretty shocking how quickly it’s become Rondo’s show.
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by Ozzie Montana on May 18, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Because Boston is...
the only team in the East that understands the playoffs are the only thing that matters. The regular season is just a glorified pre-season.
Boston is the only team that can beat the lakers
they are better than when they won in 2008 because they have a much improve rondo
A hard flagrant foul from Howard can do that to you
dirty player……just ask rose…….twice
No, not really.
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by Ozzie Montana on May 19, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
It might make him say:
“Hell if Boston can roll on a team that beat us last year and that would’ve probably beat us again this year, what does that say about us?”
Wall doing his rose impression upon discovering Wizards won lottery
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by JustAnotherFan on May 18, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I feel sorry for Wall
He is going to one of the worst team in the nba and will not start unless they trade arenas. If the nets or sixers had the number 1 pick he would be starting and would be on a little better of a team too
If he's as good as all the hype, which I doubt, they shouldn't be one of the worst teams in the league
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by Juiceboxjerry on May 18, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree, i think he is overhype and might struggle in the nba
until he improves his jumper
rose (his first year) and rondo do just fine with a crappy jump shot
i think he’ll at least live up to the hype. dont know how far he can improve the wizards on his own though
I don't know about that
The Wizards are really bad. Let’s say Wall goes out and puts up a PER of 18, averaging 20 and 6, with a TS% of .530. That’d be living up to the hype, no? It’d be better than Rose’s rookie year.
Well that’s exactly the production that Tyreke Evans put out this year, and Sacramento still ended up with the 3rd worst record in the league.
Brad Miller is god.
and they even had "okay" contributions from Udrih, Casspi, Hawes, Thompson and then Landry.
I have no idea how they were so bad.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
They were a crappy defensive team...
…and Kevin Martin missed 32 games to injury before the deadline; then he was traded away and Francisco Garcia missed 55 games…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
theres absolutely no way hes not starting
if anything theyll move arenas to the 2 position (he plays like one anyways)
2 small to play the 2 position
Arenas will get post up all day by bigger guards and they will shoot over him all day
That's why the bulls were so bad this season
plus, kirk is better defender than arenas
im saying size doesnt matter
if thats what they have theyll do it. theres no way they dont start him. i guarantee it to you
If that's the case
we will all see them in the nba draft next year either picking number 1 again or in the top 5
its the east. it aint that hard to win a few more games
besides the way its looking. cleveland is going to bump every team up a spot in the standings next year
isn't that good for them
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
arenas is strong enough to guard 2s. and with his knee the way it is it makes more sense
for him to guard them anyways.
"Oh don't look so smug. You try skating and blowing into a jug while your heart is breaking."
so i heard #11 is retired by the bullets
i remember when we had all the fun guessing derrick’s number
How about 22 or 44?
Then Arenas could switch from 0 to 357.
by caffeinater on May 19, 2010 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm really interested in where Aminu might go.
I think he’d be an excellent fit for Minnesota. Favors or Cousins are probably the better players, but with Jefferson, Pekovic and Love, I’d “trust” that I have my front line and take Aminu. After that, you screw the Bulls and take James Anderson or Xavier Henry with the 16th pick. Flynn/Rubio + Anderson/Henry + Aminu + Love + Jefferson/Pekovic has got to be there best chance at building anything worthwhile.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
T'Wolves position is good for us
They probably will go big. That could put Al Jeff on the block, that we could trade for Deng if we get LBJ
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