Quick look back and ahead at the Bulls/Raptors race
by Dash2112 on Apr 5, 2010 9:36 AM CDT
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Print[From the Fanposts. I've been without Comcast service for the entire weekend, so nothing new and exciting for you today. But we can talk schedule: Bulls have caught a break (literally, ha!) with Andrew Bogut's injury hampering (and perhaps demoralizing, though never count out Skiles) the Bucks as the come into the United Center on Tuesday.
Toronto has a much tougher opponent in Cleveland, though they've just clinched home court throughout the playoffs and have nothing to play for anymore. At least they face the Bulls once again too in these potentially LeBron-resting games. First round opponent, don't want to show the Bulls too much...or something? -ed.]
The Warriors just beat the Raptors in Toronto.. even though they tried their best to give it away.
Chris Bosh had 42 and 12 and got a little bit of contribution from Andrea Bargnani and Jarrett Jack, with 18 and 19 respectively. All other Raptors scored in single digits.
They went up big on the Raptors early in the game, but in the 4th quarter, the Raptors scored 33 to the Warriors' 25 to nearly steal the game back.
But they didn't.
Thanks Golden State. :)
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Just looked at Toronto's remaining schedule
vs. CLE, vs. BOS, vs. ATL, vs. CHI, vs. NYK.
Could definitely go 2-3 or 1-4 during that stretch.
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The result
of this game is totally ideal if you’re a Bulls fan – Bosh showing that he’s up to the task in a big situation, but the Raptors losing because everyone else sucked. Hope this keeps up.
by tas7b on Apr 4, 2010 9:20 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I think its obvious Bosh isnt staying in Toronto
but my money is him going to the Heat.
DA CUBS DA BEARS DA BULLS
My money is against
the Heat, Bosh wants to be the man, he won’t be the man in Wade County, unless D. Wade is coming to the Bulls
by QUINTEN DALEY on Apr 5, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Bosh
Also wants people who watch….and nobody goes to the Heat games. Heck they might not have even sold out some of their playoff games a few years ago….
7/1/2010: D. Wade comes back home
Bulls still are a top 3 in attendence club
I think we’re more popular outside of Chicago than inside of Chicago though…
7/1/2010: D. Wade comes back home
Even better, sell him that the arenas will be fuller at home and on the road when he's a Bull
It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.
George Washington
who has the tiebreak? us or toronto?
raps are definitely losing tomorrow, so we would be tied if we beat the bucks.
Toronto.
How can we have the worst offense in the league when everything about our team owner and coach is offensive?
by Khalid El-Amin on Apr 5, 2010 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions
This game was another reason why the Bulls don't need Chris Bosh.
Taj Gibson can put up those numbers easily. Plus, his veteran savvy helps him get to the line more often.
"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"
by chapuforyou on Apr 5, 2010 7:47 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
also, he wouldn't choke with the game on the line
part of bringing the lunchpail to work every day means you can easily digest no matter what time in the ballgame.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
hahahahaha
Out coaching VDN, so easy a cave man could do it.
Taj knows all those old school moves, too.
You know, the underhand freethrow, the deadly and newly invented (at the time) crossover dribble, the 30 foot 2-point FG…
"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"
He still doesn't understand the 4 point play.
"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"
by chapuforyou on Apr 5, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm still trying to figure out if you're being sarcastic or not
by Option27 on Apr 5, 2010 11:06 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Gibson really amazes me
Chapuforyou you wrote what I’ve been mulling over. How does Gibson’s starling development impact who we go for in free agency? Taj’s play really has shocked and impressed me. Yes Bosh, Stodemire and Boozer would be better than Taj but how much better? It seems we would be best if we could steal Wade or with Joe Johnson than have Gibson back up one of the top 3 free agent power forwards.
I never in my wildest imagination would believe Gibson should even be mentiooned in the same sentence as Bosh, Stodemire and Boozer. Please – I am not saying Gibson is better than those three but he is a game impactor at an incredibly low price. With Gibson so impressive it seems we need a shooting guard more than a power forward, particularly if Gibson improves next season. This is still his rookie year. I was upset that Tyrus didn’t get the starting job back after his broken arm healed. You have to give Gibson and the Bulls coaching staff credit as well as Paxson for the find of the draft. I was furious Paxson took Gison over Blair. Paxson 1 chgobr 0. This kid is the real deal. I think he makes the layup Bosh misses.
That assumes he'd actually catch the pass...
I think he makes the layup Bosh misses.
I borrowed this response technique from Ozzie M… sorry, I like to cite my work.
"Some people want it to happen, some wish it would happen, others make it happen." - Michael Jordan
by PeteRoc on Apr 5, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Taj would drop the pass.
It would be depressing. Then the Warriors would have the ball again, and score.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
oh my.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gibson's impact an interesting topic for discussion
I was as big a Gibson skeptic as anyone here. He has not only played well but is now contributing crunch time for a playoff contender. I am also shocked about my change in perception. This is hard for me to digest as it is for others. Gibson will be 25 next year. He is a much better player today than the start of the season. His post game is better; his free throw shooting is better; his shot is improved; and his defense is excellent. I do not know how much better he will be next year. Maybe I’m seeing this through Bulls’ red or Rose colored glassess. Gibson has become a consistent contributor as a rookie on a playoff contending team. Re-evluating our free agent needs in light of Gibson’s significant improvment is a topic worthy of discussion.
No, it's not. You're talking about passing up a top 10 player because a rookie playing less than 35 minutes is having a nice season.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 5, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No he's talking about taking passing up a top 10 player to sign a different top 10 player because a rookie playing less than 35 minutes is having a nice season.
Honestly, it does change things a little bit. I’d still prefer Bosh to Wade, but not by as much. And I’m starting to question whether JJ might be a better signing than Boozer.
Brad Miller is god.
by Poloplaya14 on Apr 5, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wade, sure
Joe Johnson, no.
I’m up for trading Taj now, he’s already clouded our thinking too much and I see many BaB arguments because of it. Do it for me, Gar Paxdorf.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure we can get Joey Dorsey for him.
He’s a diamond in the rough!!!!111.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Is JJ really that much less attractive an option than a guy like Boozer?
I mean JJ will decline due to age, but so will Boozer, and JJ’s a surer bet to stay healthy.
Brad Miller is god.
I find them to be equally unattractive.
I would rate Lee and Scola above Boozer…and certainly would look for Rudy Gay or maybe Ray Allen on the cheap before Joe Johnson.
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
You will have to pay
close to the max to get gay, Boozer is way better than Lee or Scola
by QUINTEN DALEY on Apr 5, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
How is Boozer "way better" than David Lee?
They seem pretty similar, only Lee is 2 years younger and has no history of injuries.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 5, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
His game is much better,
can rebound, play the PNR, post up option, better shooter, and commands a double team
by QUINTEN DALEY on Apr 5, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't call him a better shooter
I went to Hoopdata and looked at each player’s %assisted, expecting Boozer’s to be lower, as he seems better at creating his own shot. Surprise, Boozer’s at 75.6 while Lee’s at 64.4. This seems to indicate that Boozer benefits greatly from playing with Deron Williams, and that if he wasn’t playing alongside an all-star PG, Lee would have better numbers.
Brad Miller is god.
Boozer is still
the better player, he balled in Clev and is still balling in Utah, I don’t care what your fancy pants stats say, Boozer still commands a double team, the Bulls need another player besides Rose that commands a double team, he is a better post player than Lee, thats what the Bulls need a post scorer and somebody that commands a double team
by QUINTEN DALEY on Apr 5, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
"I don’t care what your fancy pants stats say"
Yeah that’s right, ignore cold-hard facts that are completely objective. If you rely on subjectivity, nobody can refute your argument.
Brad Miller is god.
Oh man
‘I don’t care what your fancy pants stats say’ kinda lowers your credibility.
by Stacey_Is_King on Apr 5, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
credibility around here
is fleeting.
"The people we lost, I'm sad we lost them because they helped us. But the organization saw something in these players. They're going to help us. They don't have any attitude problems. They just want to ball." - Derrick Rose
Well
I But since some people here underrate Joe Johnson people wouldn’t like a guy who can play PG, SG and SF and can also take over a game.
I'd like either
I’ll accept anyone willing to take our money at this point. Thus why I don’t think they’ll have their choice of FA, and shouldn’t worry as much about PF vs. SG.
Johnson takes over games in a bad way sometimes, too.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Well there was a certain player we had who takes over games in a bad way too. i.e Ben Gordon
I would love to have anybody good. Like Bosh, Boozer JJ, and Wade. I just think that people underrate JJ too much. Thats just the problem I have. And I can see him and Rose causing some damage and being a worthy opponent for the Cleveland Lebrons.
maybe for a couple seasons
But I’ve been convinced that Johnson isn’t that good now, and evidence of similar players makes me believe he will go downhill soon and swiftly.
That said I’d still be happy if the Bulls sign him.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
JJ's been underrated so much
that he’s overrated now.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
I think T.Moore is now saying the tide has turned, he's been called overrated
so now he’s underrated.
Or maybe overrated/underrated is nonsense? nah.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
So JJ was a prospect,
but then he was underrated, but then he was overrated, but then he was underrated again!!!!
Maybe he’ll be overrated again by the time FA comes out! But if we wait four weeks to give him a contract offer, he could be underrated again, and the Bulls could save money = win!
…
I think I discovered our 2010 plan.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
by Prevenge on Apr 5, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well at least he's not as underrated
As Kobe is overrated compared to MJ. I mean C’mon he missed 30 shots in a game (nba record) airballed 4 times against the Jazz.
nobody with a brain thinks Kobe is comperable to Jordan
so don’t worry about it.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
You're acting like that's surprising
Lakers fans are stupid.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 5, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
The question becomes
how much do you improve going from Taj to Bosh vs Hinrich to Wade or Joe Johnson. Hinrich is so horrible, relative to his position, and at an age where he is less likely to significantly improve that you might rather find a replacement for him and start Taj, rather than go for Bosh.
Between Joe Johnson and Wade – it’s 100% Wade. Not only is Wade the superior player, but he’s played like half the games that JJ has played. Wade is less likely to go sour.
It’s all moot though because the Org likes Hinrich too much to trade him and his contract is too horrible for anyone to be willing to take him. So Bosh it is with a very nice backup in Taj coming off the bench.
that's the first time I heard Wade's injury history used as a positive :)
less tread.
But anyway, I don’t view Hinrich or Taj as significant enough to factor into the decision. Wade’s the best player, so get him first. Bosh is the next best, so then him.
I’d soften on Amare/Lee/Boozer being debateable with Joe Johnson, but only on their own merits, not on the existence of Taj or Hinrich. Both are insignificant in a signing this big.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do think it's a positive
In that Wade has been free from injuries the last two seasons and has been performing at a super-high level. There is little reason to believe he would be injury prone.
I’d go for Amare > JJ > Lee > Boozer.
Agreed...
Anyone who is looking at Taj or Kirk or even Luol for that matter, and thinking that player should impact our free agent decisions, does not understand the magnitude of this potential signing…
I think you can win a championship with any of those guys starting, but not all of those guys…so, the Bulls would be wise to target the top guys, then work their way down…Lebron, Wade, Bosh…etc…
The real debate is the talent of that second tier…I am big fan of Lee, while others on here prefer Amare or Boozer…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
right, it's not worthy of discussion at all
Maybe if we’re talking Carlos Boozer over a SG. Plus, wasn’t an argument to not keep Gordon was that we didn’t need to spend as much resources on a SG alongside Rose?
And really, Taj would be a heckuva backup big, too. Actually, why am I even bothering?
I know the Bulls and fans who agree with chgobr can’t be actually purposely in sync about this, but then again there’s the ‘hard hat lunch pail’ announcing team as a conduit between both, and the conspiracy to make Arn Tellem and Reinsdorf shake hands at the Joe Johnson press conference almost becomes a worthy topic of discussion.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
really, just worry about who's better. That's the safe route.
Any time worrying about this+that is already thinking too much, an assembly of alright talent has proven to get us nowhere significant. We need big time talent, not worry about how one fits with friggin’ Taj.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously, just get the best player
its not like the Bulls have quality depth. In a perfect world, Taj and Hinrich are both bench players. The best teams have guys like Odom and Terry and JR Smith coming off the bench. And some bulls fans don’t want to sit Taj? uggh
by Basketball Smurf on Apr 5, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
yup, we're not looking for the final piece here
it’s more like the 2nd piece. Lots of work to do, still, and time to do so. Just upgrade our talent base and move on from there.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly,
get the best player available if it be Bron, Wade, Bosh, or Amare
by QUINTEN DALEY on Apr 5, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes.
Can always trade the other guys we have, if they don’t fit with one of these much better players.
Taj Gibson unhappy with Chris Bosh? Fine.. Taj, welcome to the Nets, enjoy your stay in Brooklyn. James Johnson unhappy with getting no minutes b/c LeBron is here? So be it JJ, have fun in Minnesota.
"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times
by Grinder in Training on Apr 6, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No no please don't pass on free agents - I've waited to long for this.
I do not want us to pass up anyone. I am genuinely confused. Gibson’s development has made an impact. I think Wade is the best fit. Wade apears to want to stay in Miami but maybe there is a ray of light shining on Chicago with the custody conflict he is in. Ozzie after that I want us to get the best player and best fit. Gibson has grown on me. That doesn’t mean we don’t take Bosh, Stodemire or Boozer. It just leans me more to Wade Johnson than before Gibson’s development.
Agreed.
Once again, nobody is saying he’s as good as Bosh or Amare, but if you look at it in terms of needing to strengthen wherever you’re weakest, then your first priority is a shooting guard. It’s ironic (and hypocritical) after all the crying over “ruining Tyrus’ development” (limiting minutes etc) that people are willing to do the same w/ Taj without a second thought.
hard pail lunch hat
its not even remotely hypocritical. if bosh had been on the team every fan would gladly
have converted tyrus into a ball boy if it meant bosh would have played more.
there is something awesome about Pargo, though.
Seriously. It’s kind of awe inspiring: he WILL shoot. He has no conscience. No remorse. He will shoot – the situation, the opponent, the country. He could be in zero gravity floating in orbit. The dude would be jacking up shots. And missing.
-MPG
by TheMoon on Apr 5, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
exactly
headphony, wtf.
Plus it’s not about strengthening the weaknesses, it’s just about strengthening. We’re weak.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
So if in a different world...
Dwight Howard were up for FA, and we sign him. Do you sit Noah?
hard pail lunch hat
by headphones on Apr 5, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes.
or move him to PF, or trade him.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh, wait, if we move Noah to PF
WHAT HAPPENS TO TAJ?!?! I hope he and Dwight Howard can co-exist, that could be a real sticky issue.
(Trade Taj now, Gar Paxdorf!)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
no
I hate it when we get good players, because then we don’t play our players that aren’t as good! :(
Man, I wish the Bulls were worse. That would be awesome.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
by Prevenge on Apr 5, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
I’ve always said that Luol Deng was the worst thing to happen to the Bulls because it meant less Linton Johnson.
Brad Miller is god.
The Celtics series could have been ours if Anthony Roberson was utilized more.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 5, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Me and headphones should start the Jerome James movement.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
by Prevenge on Apr 5, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is he eating?
What’s he eating?
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Who's headphones?
You mean Headphony :)
by LoveForTheGame on Apr 6, 2010 1:56 AM CDT up reply actions
SERIOUSLY OH MY GOD.
YOU RUINED OPENING DAY.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 5, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahahahaha
there is something awesome about Pargo, though.
Seriously. It’s kind of awe inspiring: he WILL shoot. He has no conscience. No remorse. He will shoot – the situation, the opponent, the country. He could be in zero gravity floating in orbit. The dude would be jacking up shots. And missing.
-MPG
Have your laughs, wankers.
Maybe I should have fleshed out the analogy a little more. The whole point is that there’s more to it than just signing your favorite guy, it’s naive and narrow-minded not to consider roles & respective positions. The Noah/Howard example was meant to include the situation of still being weak at SG…
hard pail lunch hat
Pargo can play SG for all I care
(ok, maybe not him)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I HATE Pargo and "like" Kirk
But I would like someone who can shoot consistently. and make Layups in Live 10 since Hinrich can’t.
by T.Moore on Apr 5, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LMAO,
he can’t even make bunnys on Live
by QUINTEN DALEY on Apr 5, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Just means more rebounds.
Pargo’s misses + Deng + Noah + Howard = greatest offensive rebounding team of all time?!?!
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
by tyger1147 on Apr 5, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
youre right, that is narrow minded and naive. but what is even more
narrow minded and naive is applying considerations of fit when they are inappropriate. this team is so far from having the requisite talent for contender-hood that it just needs to think about boosting that as much as possible. to that end it doesnt matter if taj comes off the bench or plows fields in the Urals, nor does it matter if the SG is kirk, james anderson or james lipton. the bulls need studs badly.
there is something awesome about Pargo, though.
Seriously. It’s kind of awe inspiring: he WILL shoot. He has no conscience. No remorse. He will shoot – the situation, the opponent, the country. He could be in zero gravity floating in orbit. The dude would be jacking up shots. And missing.
-MPG
Not at all.
You get the best player possible then figure out the rest. If you have two centers, trade Noah for a SG. Problem solved. You get the best player and then work your way down.
"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times
by Grinder in Training on Apr 6, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you kidding?
Dwight Howard is leaps and bounds better than Noah. Of course you start Howard and either play Noah at the 4 or have him come off the bench.
Joakim on whether he ever tried tennis: "I played a little bit. If anybody on the Bulls wanted to play me, I would kick their ass."
Sadly, people actually agree with you.
Your convoluted logic makes sense if the Bulls land Dwyane Wade. If not, you’re grounded.
by Ozzie Montana on Apr 5, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
hahahaha
….but does he make the 42 points to keep the game close?
Practice beats talent when talent doesn't practice.
by iamsasquatch on Apr 5, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I love bosh and want him here.
But he had what half of his points from free throws? 21 free throws!? Maybe it wasn’t just him that kept them in the game If you get me.
I thought the problem was he was too soft
now the free throws are bad.
Trade Taj!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
because the ref GAVE them to him
He didn’t actually earn those himself.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
aren't people always complaining about how the Bulls, particularly Rose,
don’t get to the free throw line enough? Bosh shoots 8.5 free throws per game, 6th in the league. That is a good thing.
by Basketball Smurf on Apr 5, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well. Close enough
More like the refs consistently sucking is more of the joke.
by T.Moore on Apr 5, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
NBA referees the
worst officials in team sports
by QUINTEN DALEY on Apr 5, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Taj and the way he is playing
But seriously HIM in the same breath as BOSH, S.T.A.T and BOOZER?!?! What are you smoking?
You question my amazement - I also thought Eddie Curry was going to be Shaq 2.
I did get Ben wallace right.
Don't the Cavs still need one more win (technically) for home court advantage?
by Stacey_Is_King on Apr 5, 2010 11:23 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I was just going to write this...
If Cleveland beats Toronto, they wrap up homecourt throughout the playoffs…just in time for Lebron to get some rest against the Bulls!
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
I think the Warriors are gonna be my 2nd team/new fav team to watch
until they get rid of Curry..damn that kid has a nice stroke [||]
I wanted to kill him when he missed those two free throws
He seems like an excellent player. I always have doubts with players that excel on lousy teams.
Yes I did - I believe it was the Noah dunk and you could see Taj scream in the background
Taj and Noah care about winning and even though it was sweet to dunk on TT it was sweeter because it meant we were more likely to win.
He wasn't just screaming.
He was pumping his fists too. Guess he was hyped for Noah dunking on TT I bet that he wanted to do that too. And I would have laughed if that did happen.
wrong thread
http://www.blogabull.com/2010/4/3/1404331/joakim-over-tyrus-oh-my
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 5, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
At the very least
This all keeps me interested in the rest of the regular season. Thanks Raptors!
I would take him over JJ, but not Wade
I don’t care about the age factor, just who’s better factor.
Age is not irrelevant
nor is the fact that he’s so injury prone that the Spurs moved him to the bench and sit him at random times, just so he’ll hopefully be able to walk come playoff time.
Neither the age nor injuries are going to get better, and the Bulls won’t be a championship contender next year. He’ll be 33 in july and turning 35 around the time of the 2011-2012 finals. Does he get signed to a big money 5 year contract? Even if you signed him to a 2-3 year contract, his money will still be gone when the contract is up, because Rose and Noah will have signed big extensions.
The Bulls have exactly one chance to do this right, and get the right core for a championship contender around. If they fail, they’re stuck with mediocrity for years to come.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
he reminds me way more of predator
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
"/>nice and unfortunate bone structure
Pietrus is a Guadeloupan God.
by TheNole9Yards on Mar 14, 2010 7:19 PM CDT
"I don't want a massage I want a FACIAL!"
--stay strong, Stacey King.
I have been trying to convince myself that keeping Hinrich was a good idea
and now I have finally convinced myself. Here is my reasoning (or lack of reasoning): If the Bulls get Bosh or Amare (I would be fine with either of them) than there starting five would look like this…
Rose
Hinrich
Deng
Bosh or Amare
Noah
I would go to war with this team for many years to come. This a championship level team, I think, but it may lack outside shooting. We would have have four starters that are all-stars or are nearly all-stars. Championship teams always have that one guy that doesn’t belong in the starting line-up like a Derrick Fisher type (Hinrich reminds of that).
Hinrich’s contract only has two more years left once this year finishes out. It is also a decreasing deal, which makes it more valuable. The key would be for the Bulls to deal Hinrich’s expiring during the trade deadline of February 2012. The Rockets dealt McGrady’s expiring deal for Kevin Martin (I know there were other pieces in the deal including Carl Landry, but still…) Kevin Martin-esque players are always available at the deadline from teams that want to cut salary because they suck and their owner is too much like JR. This would be the way to add that SG that we have always wanted that could hit threes and score at crucial junctures of the game (kind of like Ben Gordon, how did we pass him on draft day?)
If we had traded Hinrich at the deadline for expirings we would have absolutely no wing-depth. Hinrich can at least pass for a starter for the next year or so until we ship his expiring contract for a Kevin Martin-esque player.
Knowing the Bulls we will end up letting the contract expire, so we don’t have to spend anymore money. I am just trying to convince myself that keeping Kirk was a genius move leading up to the deadline of 2012…2010 free-agency is not the end of the shaping of our roster, it is only the beginning.
and I'll be the first to admit
that I am still pumped after Hinrich’s first offensively efficient game of the season. Kirk has 24 points on only 12 shots, including a couple threes. So that last game might be the sole reason why this post showed up. I would have never thought in a million years I would’ve have written something so insane.
by LoveForTheGame on Apr 6, 2010 2:56 AM CDT up reply actions
The reasoning has run its course...
We can survive with Hinrich on the roster, it’s just not preferable unless we are able to nab a vet SG or swimgman on the cheap. Obviously, this makes everyone think I want Salmons back. Well, we need someone somewhat similar. Childress, Ray Allen, (or, pick a Warrior, any warrior) are possibilities. Ginobli in likely outside our price range.
Bottomline: Hinrich cannot hinder us signing a max free agent and a serviceable SG or swingman and still be valuable. The cost of losing out on improvement because of Hinrich is unforgiveable.
Chicago Bulls Management - Wasting millions on moronic rosters since 1999
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Apr 6, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I had to towel
myself off after that post, Hinrich can’t hold us back, getting rid of him makes us better(which it will), I’m all for it, Hinrcih is about to go on one those streaks that raise his offseason value. Then the Bulls won’t capitalize on it during the offseason, and we’re stuck w/ the Scraptain(Scrappy + Crap + Captain) for the 2010-11 season
by QUINTEN DALEY on Apr 6, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
quick stat of the day
Toronto is 12-31 against teams .500 or better.
i dare you to move.
by dannyp07 on Apr 6, 2010 1:55 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
For those who are dumbasses
I think this thread is the best forum to vent my frustration. I have heard several people (not specifically on this thread but in other places) that are happy because Chris Bosh busted his face and is done for the regular season because it allows for the Bulls to have a higher probability to get into the playoffs.
All I have to say to those people is fuck you. I am an extremely passionate Bulls fan but I will never be happy because an individual has to go through facial reconstruction surgery because it allows my team to have a better chance to go into the playoffs. Don’t be an asshole, this individual has to go through real life hardships and you literally don’t give a fuck because it helps the team you happen to love.
give me a fucking break, he had a fracture in his face. Hes not Roger Ebert who lost his jaw to cancer and had to undergo major reconstruction.
I think your seriously confused as to what a fracture is.
There's a happy medium here
We’re allowed to rejoice that the bulls have a better chance to get to the playoffs. We never rooted for Bosh to get injured. Since it happened, though, we simply hope we can capitalize on an opportunity to benefit from the situation. But there;s no need to spend petty apologies for Bosh, shit happens to all of us. A broken cheek is tough, but its not a sports accident tragedy. We say we wish the bulls would have beaten up on a healthy raptor team. This is not ideal, but i hardly feel guilty we have a second chance because a millionaire is having surgery on his cheek.
Chicago Bulls Management - Wasting millions on moronic rosters since 1999
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Apr 8, 2010 10:48 PM CDT reply actions
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