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Kirk Hinrich closes out wild night in Bulls-land

Pace Eff eFG FT/FG OREB% TOr
Boston 89.0 104.5 46.9% 22.5 17.4 10.1
Chicago 113.5 51.2% 19.3 25.6 9.0


I have to admit, it was a bit difficult giving the game my full attention when, just hours before, the story of the VDN-Paxson confrontation broke. It didn't help that the TNT telecast spent significant time on it, and we received the bombshell from sideline reporter Craig Sager that Chicago Tribune beat reporter (writing that out to clarify that he does not actually work for the Bulls) KC Johnson actually had this story when it happened and decided to hold it.

But by the 4th quarter I had switched to the radio call, and they were much more focused on the game (and had much much less Reggie Miller). And I was happy to then keep my attention undivided, as it was a great victory by the Bulls tonight. Outside of perhaps limiting KG's minutes some and thus playing more of the truly awful Rasheed Wallace (this happened, and also had a 4th quarter possession  throwing a pass directly to the first row, and the 1-7 from the field) the Celtics had their optimal rotation and were certainly playing to win. And the Bulls took it to them.

From the outset it was a bit of a reminder of when these teams met in the playoffs last year. Or when the Bulls of '07 took out the defending champion Heat: an opponent being too old to keep up with the Bulls relentless (if not that efficient) attack. A dynamic always there with Joakim Noah, who had 16 rebounds and led the Bulls in dominating the glass all night. The Celtics lost out on a chance to get the #3 seed, and will now have to face Cleveland in the second round. But after getting a good look at them tonight, if I were a fan of that team I'd be worried about even making it to the second round.

Not that this is unique to them, but they also had nobody to stop Derrick Rose, who had Rondo in foul trouble late, and then abused Nate Robinson when Nate gave guarding him a try. Only 2 TOs in over 45 minutes, and 39 points (10 FTAs!). Great to see Rose not only produce in this (pretty much) must-win game but completely dominate the ball, which is what the Bulls offense should be more times than not. Plus he did this, which would've likely won this year's dunk contest.

Even Kirk Hinrich was able to slice through the slowed Celtics D and get to the rim. That was the story in the first half, anyway. In the second it was: "Kirk Hinrich is hitting everything" (maybe THAT's what reminded me of 2006-07?) Hinrich finished with a season high 30 points, and in the final minutes had 10 points on 3-3 shooting. No doubt his best game of the season, and better late than never. It does re-emphasize how much better this team's offense will be if they get a dependable scorer alongside Derrick Rose, though nearly every game this season was a reminder in showing us what happens when that doesn't happen. But good for Kirk in this game in stepping up, and I even used his real name in this recap.

The Bulls magic number stands at 1 going into tomorrow, a win in Charlotte or a Raptors loss against New York and they're in. No doubt the Org. is really pushing for it now to distract everyone from this latest fiasco with VDN.

That's right, a big win can't have me forget that, as it may be the most entertaining of all the stories to come from this messed-up Org. in the past couple years. In fact, I think the giddiness of following the details (not only the story itself but how it was reported) and reading all the jokes at their expense against the backdrop of a big (and entertaining) Bulls victory made this one of the more memorable nights in BaB history. Can't wait for more details to come out tomorrow. Oh, and that final game too.

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i look forward to the captions you put under the pictures each recap

hilarious

You're my assistant! You're supposed to back me up and go get me juiceboxes whenever I want. Now go get me a juicebox!

by chibullsfan03 on Apr 13, 2010 11:56 PM CDT reply actions  

They might be shots at Vinny and Paxson for the rest of the year

If the Bulls don’t make the playoffs I won’t need to watch basketball, its on to basketball.

by QUINTEN DALEY on Apr 2, 2010 12:38 PM PDT

by Option27 on Apr 14, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Im not a "kurt" fan if you will..

but the last several games should atleast give credit where credit is due , and he has hit shots, period.

by TruEChiFaN... on Apr 13, 2010 11:59 PM CDT reply actions  

VDN is fired / out the will ...

He obviously linked the story to Yahoo to stomp down the criticism he was receiving after the NJ loss. And KC obviously withheld the story to protect management. Everyone involved looks kind of silly. Life as a Bulls fan!

by Basketball Smurf on Apr 14, 2010 12:06 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

That's completely plausible

Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."

by runningman on Apr 14, 2010 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

What a crazy ass day!

If you're reading this signature, there's a good chance you don't like Vinny Del Negro.

by Juiceboxjerry on Apr 14, 2010 12:11 AM CDT reply actions  

our bench needs to come up big tomorrow

looking at how many minutes the starters played they will be really tired tomorrow

by bullzfan148 on Apr 14, 2010 12:11 AM CDT reply actions  

tomorrow is a better matchup for Warrick

so hopefully he gets some minutes. Boston is just too big/wide for him.

by Basketball Smurf on Apr 14, 2010 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Warrick's minutes have been down anyways

He must not be practicing well (it’s definitely something internally) He hasn’t played 20 minutes in 9 games. We also need James Johnson healthy. I hate our backup guards.

by LoveForTheGame on Apr 14, 2010 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

our bench needs to come up big

i wasnt aware we even had a bench…

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Apr 14, 2010 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was when I saw

Pargo int eh 4th yesterday….thank GOd he didn’t hurt us.

7/1/2010: D. Wade comes back home

by majoyenrac on Apr 14, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

If they lose

they’ll have a really long rest… about 6 months.

It’s the last game of the season if they lose. If there’s ever a time to suck it up and play tired, this is it.

Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."

by runningman on Apr 14, 2010 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

KC is a puppet and this all but confirms it

And no, I don’t feel sorry for Vinny. Like Paxson, I’ve made mistakes before. Doesn’t mean you can’t lash out on them.

As for the game tonight . . . was that really Hinrich?

If the Bulls don’t make the playoffs I won’t need to watch basketball, its on to basketball.

by QUINTEN DALEY on Apr 2, 2010 12:38 PM PDT

by Option27 on Apr 14, 2010 12:20 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

A kiss-ass? Maybe... A puppet? No.

I think KC is a very good beat reporter who knows that building rapport with a team by being classy with them pays dividends. He writes well, and knows this team on a personal level – that’s important for keeping the inside track. I actually have more respect for the guy for withholding the story – a gutsy move in a business that often reports anything if it will give them temporary glory. I don’t know if the team will pay back the favor by keeping him on the inside track, but they should.

For the record, I would have started Blanco at SS and Theriot at 2B for 2010, and released either Baker or Fontenot.

by DisCUBbobulated on Apr 14, 2010 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's a Bulls.com Writer

No one is saying he writes poorly or doesn’t know the team well. It’s just that his style of writing belongs on Bulls.com or some other team run publication. He’s not going to break big stories or give you inside dirt on the team. He’ll provide a competent recap of the day along with a few easy-going tidbits about the players.

As a beat writer for a major newspaper, you’re given access that most don’t have. You can use that to report on items such as the fight between Pax and VDN, or you can use it to regurgitate a VDN quote we can find from 300 other sources. KC decided he wants to be those other 300 sources. He’s a good writer and by all accounts seems like a very nice and classy guy. He’s just a shitty journalist.

by Niwrad on Apr 14, 2010 6:02 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rose is a closer

One of the many things I’m loving about Rose’s developing game is that he’s become a closer. Tonight was a great example of that. He hit some big shots and wanted the ball in his hands. You just don’t see that much from a guy his age.

by Niwrad on Apr 14, 2010 12:24 AM CDT reply actions  

Do you see them all?

All the big name free agents who can’t wait to play for such a classy organization.

by Niwrad on Apr 14, 2010 12:25 AM CDT reply actions  

dude come on.

Nothing wrong with a little dust up. Why is everyone in a tizzy? So our GM pushes around the coaches why would anyone deny 17 million dollars because of it?

Luol Deng 24 going on 54.

by SoulEater7 on Apr 14, 2010 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Makes the organization look like clowns

No star is going to risk their legacy by joining an organization that is a joke. Lebron, Wade, and Bosh can get $17 million from any number of teams and not have to deal with fake GMs and top executives starting fights with coaches over 2 extra minutes.

by Niwrad on Apr 14, 2010 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

But with a history of going into big free agent classes and having everyone turn and run the other way, I don’t think it’s a good idea to do anything that makes it look like you run an amateur operation which the Bulls do.

by Niwrad on Apr 14, 2010 5:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

And

This is a team that will be searching for a coach next season. Do you see any quality coach who wants to be a part of this? “Don’t play a guy a couple minutes too long or our VP will come down and beat you up after the game”.

by Niwrad on Apr 14, 2010 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I bet Bosh was

watching the game and thought about Pax muffing Vinny, probably not, he was thinking “I got to get to the Chi, Me+Rose+Noah+some interchangable parts = CHAMPIONSHIP”

by QUINTEN DALEY on Apr 14, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know who's worse at their job

John Paxson, Vinny del Negro, or KC Johnson.

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 14, 2010 12:34 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

K.C.

He should be fired for hiding facts to protect people and not being honest. What’s the point of being a beat writer if you’re not going to share the facts with the general public?

by LoveForTheGame on Apr 14, 2010 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah well there is this guy he goes by the name of Jerry.

He has a shit ton of money and it just so happens the genus has rigged everything like a puppet master. KC is saving his ass because he likes appearing on Chicago Tribune Live a show on a network that Jerry is a part owner of.

Luol Deng 24 going on 54.

by SoulEater7 on Apr 14, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

True, I can still heap blame on all 3.

But, Reinsdorf is the giant spoon that stirs the whole shit stew together.

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 14, 2010 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

So am I.

For the record, I would have started Blanco at SS and Theriot at 2B for 2010, and released either Baker or Fontenot.

by DisCUBbobulated on Apr 14, 2010 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

As much as I do not think highly of Vinny as a coach

He has been unfairly treated as the head coach for the Chicago Bulls. Management has treated this man like trash. Back in December they had reports that he would be fired, but they ended up not firing him. If management doesn’t like this man as a head coach than FIRE HIM (He won’t be here anyways next year) There’s no point of not backing up your head coach, or leaving a man in limbo.

by LoveForTheGame on Apr 14, 2010 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Vinny isn't that bad

I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but what were you guys expecting? He’s on the verge of making his 2nd playoff trip with a mediocre team. They had injuries last year and have been decimated this season. Throw a top NBA coach on this team and I don’t see them being much better.

I guess I also look at development. Rose is becoming a superstar in his 2nd year at a position that typically takes longer to learn. Noah is now one of the better Centers in the league and may just win a rebounding title next year. If Rose was struggling and Noah complacent, I’d have much more venom toward Vinny. As for now, I think he just did what he could with what he had and helped develop some young talent in a positive direction.

I actually think Vinny will be a decent coach in the right situation in this league.

by Niwrad on Apr 14, 2010 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

All the excuses doesn't cover up that he's still a bad tactician.

Unless you’re willing to concede management had a role in every crucial rotation move for the past 2 years, there’s plenty of evidence to suggest he’s just bad at calling plays.

He deserves all the credit for keeping the team relatively close and sane under such tumultuous times, where there’s a trade every 5 months. But, as an actual play-caller? He’s pretty terrible

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 14, 2010 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

And since it's obvious he'll get fired, I hope he gets hired elsewhere and matures as a coach.

Just to make Reinsdorf and Paxson look stupid. Anything to shine light on the pathetic loons who actually run this team and leech off the 90s is fine by me.

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 14, 2010 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

And...

And all the complaints don’t cover up the fact that he’s on the verge of making a 2nd playoff appearance with subpar talent that has been decimated by injuries. That Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah are really good NBA players. He makes bad play calls and substitution decisions. He also makes good ones that everyone here seems to ignore. He thoroughly outcoached Doc Rivers tonight and Rivers has a ring.

I just think the VDN hate is unwarranted. Coaches don’t mean a whole lot in the NBA. You or I could coach the Cavs to the #1 seed in the East. Phil Jackson doens’t make this a 50-win team. This was never about winning this season, they made that clear at the deadline. We wanted to see Rose develop and he has. I’m not saying I’d ever want Vinny as a coach of a team that adds Wade next year, but I think he is a decent NBA coach.

My point is that VDN is a scapegoat that the organization will use to avoid everyone pointing out the blunders they’ve made. The Bulls are a lucky ping pong ball away from being a really bad team with little to no future.

by Niwrad on Apr 14, 2010 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

it's the east playoffs

VDN is a scapegoat but he was still a shitty hire. Of course the Org. deserves blame too since they made the hire. Lots of blame to go around.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Apr 14, 2010 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

We may be .500

regardless, with all the injuries and with the 2 big trades (BG essentially out resulting from last year for $0 and BG was the face of the offense, and then Salmons out for at best Warrick, which is a step down (even though I like Warrick and his can be instant offense at the 4) he’s far from Salmons.

7/1/2010: D. Wade comes back home

by majoyenrac on Apr 14, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah but...

Look at the standings right now. It’s not like Milwaukee, Charlotte or Miami are powerhouses. They’re pretty shitty teams too, but still both Milwaukee and Charlotte have been growing as teams, and playing solid ball, to their strenghts, using what they have. The bulls don’t really look like a good team out there, play bad basketball that doesn’t really seems suited to their players. It’s pretty much still the same live and die by the jumpshot team it was with Skiles, even though they now have Rose and Noah and Gordon is out, Kirk can’t shoot that well anymore and Deng seems to be always out of position.

by grillo on Apr 14, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

so can we mention

how turrible Deng and Pargo were tonight? Really Pargo? Really?? Even Mike Fratello noted how quick and terrible his shots were.

Deng looked lost on offense and was getting completely roasted on D…

I think Pax needs to bully him around a bit…maybe that will motivate him

by NormVanBeer on Apr 14, 2010 12:35 AM CDT reply actions  

well

to be fair, Deng at least cleaned up on the boards, so he brought something of value.

Unlike Pargo…

"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.
"That boy is BAD"- Stacey King.

by Cosmis on Apr 14, 2010 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Deng grabbed 12 boards, so it's not like he was useless out there.

I was pretty shocked at how badly Pierce burned him. Usually Deng does a great job against him.

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 14, 2010 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think he was burned that bad

It wasn’t his best night, but Pierce hit some tough shots. Sometimes great players just make great plays.

Luol had a quiet game but they sort of didn’t involve him a ton in the offense. He did have the highest +/- on the court in the game.

by Niwrad on Apr 14, 2010 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tonight

Our section moaned every time Pargo got up off the bench. It was pretty funny that we were all thinking the same thing.

by Niwrad on Apr 14, 2010 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wish Barkley would stop commenting on the Bulls in these situations. He doesn’t watch the Bulls enough to talk about them in this length and detail especially for it to be national/international broadcast.

by Camry on Apr 14, 2010 12:45 AM CDT reply actions  

well,

barkley calls it like he sees it. i can’t really disagree with anything he’s said so far. he just mentioned:

1. there’s a “snitch” in the organization because, “pulling a tie and shoving someone isn’t loud enough to be overheard”. he says the snitch is probably in bulls management.
2. “the bulls don’t like vinny del negro”
3. the bulls are unprofessional for leaving vinny out to dry this winter when there were rumors he was already fired.
4. vinny’s done a good job (arguable)
5. vinny’s a good guy (apparently he and barkley are friends outside of basketball)

"The people we lost, I'm sad we lost them because they helped us. But the organization saw something in these players. They're going to help us. They don't have any attitude problems. They just want to ball." - Derrick Rose

by leeac on Apr 14, 2010 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Barkley has said he did a great job last season when hes only stunted development of players. Wasting timeouts, bad plays, bad subs, letting old washed up players play over productive ones etc etc he didn’t see all that.
We under achieved last year also that year when we had a great run the 2nd half him and Kenny said we backed into the playoffs. Which wasn’t true at all we beat the teams we needed to beat to get in there it wasn’t a losing fest between 3 teams for the 8th spot.

At the beginning of the season he said we didn’t “miss” BG. Until he had to defend Vinny then he changed his tune to “they let BG go and didn’t replace him”. Even though he also said last year not to resign Gordon.

Hes just protecting his friends husband its tiresome. He says “they don’t like him for some reason” but ignores the possibility of Vinny being a bad coach. As bad as management is they don’t hate Vinny for NO apparent reason he was a incredibly horrible hire and they’ve thought so maybe even before this season.

by Camry on Apr 14, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Last year he use to play Larry Hughes and Drew Gooden over every player under the sun. Players only get better with playing time or actual direction.

Noah only got better on his own and thanks to Brad Miller. Tyrus and Vinny just butted heads so in game 5 when we needed key rebounds to seal a win we had Brad Miller out there who wasn’t quick enough to secure one and the Celtics came back.
Rose doesn’t really have anyone to show him the ropes here it doesn’t matter how well hes playing his development would of progressed much faster with a better coach.
Instead we’ve had mostly players with undefined roles to me thats not developed.

by Camry on Apr 14, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

its sort of off topic, but id like to document here that taj has had about 6 good games in the

last 2 months. i say this because certain writers/commentators only mention him when he does well and conveniently ignore him the other 75% of the time.

there is something awesome about Pargo, though.
Seriously. It’s kind of awe inspiring: he WILL shoot. He has no conscience. No remorse. He will shoot – the situation, the opponent, the country. He could be in zero gravity floating in orbit. The dude would be jacking up shots. And missing.

-MPG

by TheMoon on Apr 14, 2010 1:01 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah

he definitely has looked pretty bad the last few weeks. Is it just me, or does he miss more little chippies than anyone in the league? He can’t seem to finish anything 5ft and in lately.

by NormVanBeer on Apr 14, 2010 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

he is outclassed by opponents with size and strength

the Taj lovefest did get a bit wild, but I think most people don’t see him as anything but a backup 4.

by Basketball Smurf on Apr 14, 2010 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

agree

which still would make that a solid pick up, but yeah, let’s still try for Bosh.

by grillo on Apr 14, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

awesome game though. kirk plays so much better when hes angry. his iPod really needs more

Rage against the Machine and less elliot smith.

there is something awesome about Pargo, though.
Seriously. It’s kind of awe inspiring: he WILL shoot. He has no conscience. No remorse. He will shoot – the situation, the opponent, the country. He could be in zero gravity floating in orbit. The dude would be jacking up shots. And missing.

-MPG

by TheMoon on Apr 14, 2010 1:07 AM CDT reply actions  

who posted this

i remember reading that kirks ipod actually had a ton of rap in it, like dre, eminem, snoop…then again theres video of him singing the lyrics of the duke of hazards…please please please let him him remain like this for an entire season…

I dont care what the D.N.A. Says, the Guy wearing number 12 Cannot be Kirk Hinrich, he is definetly Kurt. Kirk can actually play basketball!

by piccolomair on Apr 14, 2010 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Have Rasheed Wallace and Joe Alexander scored the same amount of points for the Bulls in their careers?

LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.

by hongydraw on Apr 14, 2010 4:27 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

John Paxson, we still appreciate the 3 against Phoenix, but you should be fired for this

Say what you will about Vinny as a coach. You can make an argument that he’s a good coach or a bad coach (which probably means he is average). But regaurdless of your opinion of Del Negro as a coach, you have to admit Paxson’s actions were absolutley inexcusable.

Under no circumstances is it ever appropriate for the Vice President of a professional sports organization to mash his way into his head coach’s office, grab his tie, shove him, and attempt to start a fist fight. Calling this unprofessional is a vast understatement. Vinny Del Negro, from what I have seen and heard from/of him, is an absolute gentleman, and if there was a dispute about Noah’s minutes or anything else, Paxson should have been able to have a calm and rational discussion about it. Same team here, people. We now know why Vinny was so hesitant to play Noah more in the New Jersey game, he didn’t want such an embarassing situation to happen again. Del Negro handled this as well as any person could. As happy as I am about the win against Boston, I am extremley livid over Paxson’s actions.

I’d now like to invite Tyrus Thomas, JR Smith, Ben Wallace, Ben Gordon, Tim Thomas, Eddie Robinson, and anybody else who was removed based on (soley or partially) that he wasn’t a “character guy” to collectively walk into John Paxson’s office, throw on a headband, grab his tie, and laugh.

LeBitch and KG's constant showboating, chest pounding, dunking with one hand behind the ear, dancing, and pure and simple rubbing it in is so fucking annoying.

by hongydraw on Apr 14, 2010 4:37 AM CDT reply actions  

He should be fired

And would be by most teams. But this is the Bulls, which has now seen it’s front office become some weird hybrid of the Clippers (loyalty to bad executives) and Knicks (craziness).

by Niwrad on Apr 14, 2010 7:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree about firing pax for this

As for the New Jersey game being his fault, bullshit. If I were VDN, I wouldn’t have put Noah over his limit either; however, I would have done some basic math and made sure that I could have had Noah in the full final five minutes! As a coach, if you have minute goals or imposed limits, you need to be aware of that the full game.

As for overtime, well then you can blame pax I suppose.

by DRose01 on Apr 14, 2010 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

This one is for Sue!

One more to go! Nothing so far has demoralized this team. They keep on coming. The icing in this one is Kirk – this one is for Sue!!

by chgobr on Apr 14, 2010 5:46 AM CDT reply actions  

What do you know?

Kirk shoots over 50% from the field and Miller is over 40% and the Bulls win.

Stick around Kirk. Tell Kurt to take a hike.

12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)

by NBA Observer on Apr 14, 2010 7:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Lightening ususally does not strike twice - we need more help tonight!

We need help tonight from more than Kirk and Rose. Deng, Taj someone needs to come up big tonight. Hinrich could go 4 -16 and we are in trouble. We may need the Knicks tonight to bail us out.

by chgobr on Apr 14, 2010 7:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Really dig this quote from Noah regarding the VDN/Pax confrontation

‘’I don’t want to talk about it,‘’ Noah said. ’’Things happen in an organization. … I don’t think it’s fair for us as players to be talking about that stuff. It’s nothing. Really, it’s nothing.’’

by Reed97 on Apr 14, 2010 7:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I was shocked

that at the end when Rivers went 3-guard that Vinny didn’t do the same, but left in Taj stand with Finley in the corner. Given Vinny’s proclivity for going small, I thought Flip for Taj was an eminent substitution.

by torch on Apr 14, 2010 8:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Deng has to score 18-20 tonight, Taj has to chip in at least 12 or we don’t win. Kirk isn’t going to have another 20+ night, it’s just not possible…

by C Smoove on Apr 14, 2010 9:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Was it a cooincidence Pippen was up in the box with Pasxon last night?

Usually he’s got a seat on the floor. I know they were teammates and all but Pip has mentioned that he would like to get into coaching and it is pretty clear that VDN doesn’t have a good chance being around next year. The fans already love him, he’s an org. guy, and he’ll come cheap since he has no experience. Everything JR likes.

It's true that we don't know what we've got until we lose it, but it's also true that we don't know what we've been missing until it arrives.

by MC Cleave on Apr 14, 2010 9:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Vinny is stilll pretty awful

But canning a guy after consecutive post season appearances as a coach with no experience doesn’t seem like the greatest press for The Chairman.

We all know about Vinny’s shortcomings. We all know the players are what carries Vinny. But the rest of the league hardly knows this. The national press thinks Vinny is pretty awesome. Vinny gets way too much credit for last year, but they were moves by Paxson that shuffled the roster so Vinny had better players.

12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)

by NBA Observer on Apr 14, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Players carry every coach

Every single coach. Even Phil Jackson. Jackson’s great cuz he gets them to buy in and play hard (and has the talent)….but it’s always the talent that makes or breaks coaches.

Vinny’s had these guys still buying in after crushing defeat and crushing talent reducing trade.

Heck even Flip Murray (a guy 99% out the door at the end of this year) was really cheering us on yesterday after the game…

7/1/2010: D. Wade comes back home

by majoyenrac on Apr 14, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

One thing that was even more cemented by yesterday's game

Is the thought of a Rose-Wade backcourt would be thrilling to watch. Having both of them with that kind of drive/find lanes ability….

And Rose’s amazingly awesome block of Rondo in the first 4-5 minutes of the game that was somewhat overlooked in a game of such amazing performance….just added more.

Can you imagine if we have Rose-Wade? Rose is a better ball handling/passing Wade and Wade is the better defender….

No team could stop us with Noah running, handling and passing. He might be the emerging point-Center (not a Diaw esque undersized C, but a real C with that kind of handles/passing).

Great to see Kirk step it up and remind the fans why we loved him 2-3 short years ago (throwback game). Too bad his “prime” hasn’t been as good as his early years….I sure hope we win tonight/Raps lose as I think these will be the end of the Hinrich era here, and it’s good to see him go out with a bang….

Where was Deng? I know he defended Pierce well (Despite Pierce going off in the 2nd and 3rd, no defense could stop that version of Pierce, my jaw was dropping as he’s rarely if ever played that well against us ever)…..but Deng was really really quiet and was what seemed like 1-8.

I’m a nutty crazy fan of us, I watched that game twice yesterday staying up almost until 2am doing so (fast forwarding bits), it was just a throwback to last year’s series, except this time wtih KG being solid in the game in the minutes he played (and Big Baby looking like insanely fat not what he was now that he’s gotten a contract Baby).

7/1/2010: D. Wade comes back home

by majoyenrac on Apr 14, 2010 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

derrick was just all around sick last night

he had 3 blocks – 2 on rondo, one on allen.

mannnnnn so crazy. i keep watching that gif of rose dunking over and over lol.

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Apr 14, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great defense by derrick last night.

I actually thought he blocked a third rondo shot that was missed – in addition to nearly rejecting the Jesus Shuttleworth “fast” break.

And again: you know Chris Bosh was watching. Raptors idle, playoffs on the line, national audience. So first he sees Noah go apeshit on his own team, and now he sees Rose absolutely demolish the best point guard in the east…in a critical game.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Apr 14, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

That was a horrible b.s. call, that was one of the worst, that and I think a HInrich call on Shuttlesworth.

The VDN controversy made me forget that to a degree, but those (especially the Rose clean block) was terrible—made worse that it happened with like 2 or under minutes left int he 4th.

7/1/2010: D. Wade comes back home

by majoyenrac on Apr 14, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

That game by Kirk just demonstrated how awesome

it would be to pair Derrick with a shooter. That shooter isn’t Kirk Hinrich, unfortunately – but hot damn if we add James Anderson (ddx and nbadraft project him available) it would be deadly. Kirk as the third guard. Hell yeah.

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Apr 14, 2010 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Ill be the 1st to say

Hi, I’m the dumb-ass that doubted this team.

Sincerely,

Asshole #1

by Belize on Apr 14, 2010 11:22 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Doubting this team is completely logical.

Sincerely,

Asshole #34,305

The poster formerly known as Freethefro.

by MPG on Apr 14, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

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