BaB.com T-Mobile Player/Whatever of the Week: Joakim Noah
by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 9, 2010 8:41 AM CST
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(Yes, I was supposed to be doing these, and sort of whiffed after going on T-Mobile overload during All-Star weekend.)
I thought I'd take this sponsored opportunity to open the floor on Noah, whose absence over the past week was felt even moreso than the first time this season he went out, with the Bulls getting abused by three opposing frontcourts from Atlanta, Memphis, and Dallas. Team offensive rebounding has gone into the tank, and the defense in general doesn't look nearly the same.
There's been no adjustment to the original 3-week (now 2, I suppose) timeline for Noah's absence, and how he comes back (whether it's in meaningful games by then or not) could be a big deal. He's eligible for an early contract extension this offseason, and while the Bulls have expressed how much they value him, (whatever validity we can give that) I wonder how this injury could potentially help or hurt any negotiations. Maybe it helps Noah's side lean towards security first. Or perhaps their numbers will be too far off.
Would you even offer the early extension? They do not kick in that next season (though his contract gets a 'poison pill' designation and is very hard to trade) so it wouldn't effect 2010 cap space. Not signing him by the end of this offseason means he's a restricted free agent in summer 2011. I'd assume it'd be done last after the tasks of using the 2010 cap space (and, who knows, maybe using Noah in a sign/trade) is complete.
So congrats to Noah for this illustrious award. We clearly need you...but for how much?
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In the pic. above it looks like Noah is dressed like Fez from "That 70's show".
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I doubt the Bulls seriously negotiate with Noah until after the new CBA
by Basketball Smurf on Mar 9, 2010 10:09 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
good point
I guess there’s little incentive if the rules are going to change, though that sucks for Noah. Maybe Durant gets extended from that draft class and nobody else.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 9, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Love how Taj
is showing off his max vertical jump.
Vinny: "[Thrust] means pace, it means getting the ball out, it means getting your back to the sidelines, it means extending your outlets, it means getting the ball up the court into our early offense with plenty of time."
by runningman on Mar 9, 2010 11:20 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Great pic & good point
If i was a cheap owner (*cough*cough*) then I would double check with the doc before offering Joakim anything….on the other hand, if you don’t sign him up, he could bounce back really good and hold a “BG” grudge and not want to Bull in the longrun..
..cuz as much as everyone wanted the Bulls to sign Ben last year, he wasn’t going to and never had any plans to due to the BS he endured so long here
Without the looming CBA, I'd offer 5/55.
If he has another “Top-5” rebounder season, he’ll be an All-Star and command at least $12 million a year, if not more.
I think his rebounding is legit.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
care to say why?
I think it’s a fair price for one the leagues best rebounder and defensive bigs at his age. Not to mention all the intangibles the org loves.
so ok
Noah’s a “good guy” and does one thing well…ask BG how that turned out for him in getting 5/55. I think 5/45 is more reasonable in my eyes fo JoNo.
Sure, he’s played well…but has he played THAT well? He’s yet to even play a complete season. I love what he was doing before he got hurt, but I don’t give him that if it’s me. Especially when the new CBA kicks in.
Congratulations!
…you don’t understand basketball!
(getting 5/55 worked well for Gordon, being as he got it… and he was never even the best scorer in the league.)
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
That's a weak reply by me. I apologize.
But I find your rebuttal that he “only does one thing well” is pretty damned he stupid. He actually only doesn’t do one thing well*. He can’t shoot. He can dribble. He can pass. He can run. He can finish. He can rebound. He can block. He can hedge picks. He defend 90% of NBA centers well. He can defend both block positions well. He rarely takes bad shots.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
He got it.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
ok fine
and i’ll even give you the “one thing well” argument…my point with that being that most people only notice their best attribute…I, for one, definitely knew all of the positives that BG provided, as well as Noah.
If I “don’t understand basketball” because I don’t overpay (IMO) for Noah, especially when the cap and tax have the possibility to be much much lower than they’ll ever be, then I guess I’ll never understand.
and the only reason
i mentioned the “only one thing” sentence was mainly because you only focused on his rebounding (“his rebounding is legit”) as the reason you would give him $12 million
With no Noah, we keep getting good teams whose best (or 2nd best) player is a big
I hope Boozer and Kirelenko dont each get 29 and 18
Why aren't they selling Rose's all star jersey?
OT
is that yfbb below needing a grant to school? If so, props on rocking red and black for your pic =D
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