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(UPDATE: Richard Signed, Hunter Waived) Tuesday injury report

[UPDATE by your friendly BullsBlogger, 03/02/10 2:17 PM CST : Bulls signed Chris Richard and waived Lindsey Hunter. Hunter is now 'Organizational guy'. Sham has let me know that the Bulls still get the partial reimbursement of Hunter's salary (as a 10-year vet) from the league. Though that makes me wonder why they didn't waive him earlier, as I thought if they did so they'd be forfeiting that amount. -ed.]

It was a pretty smart move, with the Bulls not playing again until  Thursday, to sortof punt Monday night's game by giving Luol Deng some rest (his first DNP of the season, and he's been playing heavy minutes) off his knee in addition to Noah's ongoing absence.

Noah sounds more optimistic than Dr. Del Negro, and clearly this injury is tricky to diagnose. I think they can get a couple wins in this stretch without Noah, but losing him and Deng is too much. It means an over-reliance on small lineups that doesn't have the perk of being able to shoot 3s, yet still having the drawbacks of not being able to rebound.

No update on Rose and his twice-banged knee, though I guess none was needed as he came back into the game and finished strong. So at least there's that.

No update on the Bulls signing another big, there were a few players waived yesterday but no big men outside of Mark Blount. Not interested in any vet outside of maybe Tony Battie, and he's still a Net. Makes one think Chris Richard coming back is a given.

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just a question...

would it be possible for the bulls to sign big z…according to some rumors i’ve seen on the interwebs, he does not seem too thrilled by the cavs ousting him and then expecting him to come back at their beckoning. maybe that would be a nice little coup? dunno.

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by paxcore5 on Mar 2, 2010 9:03 AM CST reply actions  

It's going to be hard

Z’s family and residence are still in Cleveland (children and wife).

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

- fundamentallysound

by J Theory on Mar 2, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Also

Z wants to win a title now.
Lebron > Rose.
Bulls are in shambles. He’d choose another contending team way before considering Chicago.
And money is not an issue….

by kingj41 on Mar 2, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

First & Third point

The guy has only so long to play, he’s an aging big man with prior injuries. He also has a ton of money in the bank. He’s looking for one thing this season, a championship. He’s not going to play for at best 4th or 5th seed (probably even stretching it). He’s a valuable piece to a lot of teams, he won’t settle for this year’s Bulls team.

Even if he is upset with the Cavs, he will have better options then here.

by Grinder in Training on Mar 2, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Won't happen

He lives in Cleveland. Why would he go anywhere else besides the team with the best record in the NBA?

by Poloplaya14 on Mar 2, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Roster mismanagement is hurting playoff chances

I know this isn’t a new issue, but looking at last night’s box score just pissed me off with the long list of DNPs and actually having Law and Alexander get some minutes.

James and Hunter are taking up spots that are needed for people who actually play basketball. We saw it with the injuries to Rose, Kirk, Tyrus, Noah, and now Deng missing a game. They’re fortunate these injuries have been staggered. If this team had the injuries that the Blazers have had, we’d be looking at a 50-loss season. They don’t appear to have even average back-end depth to absorb lost games by main rotation guys.

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by mdmnd9294 on Mar 2, 2010 9:33 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

totally agree.

Beasley spent the first two quarters like he was wandering through a forest.-Neil Funk

by SoulEater7 on Mar 2, 2010 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Most teams don't

not to many teams have a legit 12-15 man rosted in which everybody is a viable rotational NBA player.

by QUINTEN DALEY on Mar 3, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

If noah and Deng dont get well soon, you can forget about the play-off

I am not optismistic about this month until Noah and deng gets better.

by jamaica876 on Mar 2, 2010 9:39 AM CST reply actions  

even when they do get better

i’m still not optimistic about this month. especially the next 2 weeks or so: after our next game vs memphis, dallas and utah come to visit, then we go on a four game road trip split into two back to backs facing some teams that are very good at home (orl, mem, dal), and then we come home to face the lebrons and then travel to philly right after to wrap up a four games in five nights stretch…. honestly, if we pull out a record of 3-5 in between in that tough sequence i would be very ecstatic.

Practice beats talent when talent doesn't practice.

by iamsasquatch on Mar 2, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Deng's fine

and we’re still in the East.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Says who?

Isn’t it a little odd that he suddenly says his knee hurts and can’t play?

I had to dig around for casual mentions that he “injured” it in beating the Pacers a couple games back.

by Sports2 on Mar 2, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

it WAS a casual thing

it was a contact injury, I don’t remember it looking like he sprained it or anything. It’s also the other leg from the stress fracture last year.

I guess I’d only be worried if he missed Thursday too.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

He's also been playing on an injured thumb since at least December.

Deng is just too much of an iron man to complain :)

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Mar 2, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm willing to bet

that he was not 100% and Vinny actually made a good coaching decision by not playing.

He just needed a night off…

"I want people to fear me"- Derrick Rose.

by Cosmis on Mar 2, 2010 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

With Shaq being hurt are the Cavs looking for a big as well?

I know they might sign Z but are they looking for another big. If they are any veteran will look at them first.

"I guess I can’t do anything if you’re just irrational, but to point it out and move on."

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by J Theory on Mar 2, 2010 10:15 AM CST reply actions  

Bulls mgmt. and VDN

need to get on the same page. VDN justifiably shortened the roster this year, but is continuing all out for wins.
With one center and three forwards (only one of whom is an above average rebounder) available last night, the Bulls had no chance last night. Their third quarter comeback, while gritty, only encouraged VDN to play his starters more minutes. This increases the possibility of new injuries or aggravating minor injuries. VDN should have pulled a Skilesand inserted all the scrubs at the same time, even if it meant getting slaughtered. The lack of another big will also encourage over use of Noah.

by El Toro de Goro on Mar 2, 2010 11:37 AM CST reply actions  

BRING IN FINLEY

I think the Bulls need to pick up Michael Finley for some outside shooting.

by Tucson_AZ_Bulls_Fan on Mar 2, 2010 12:19 PM CST reply actions  

bulls are a very young team besides hunter and miller

finley is old and bulls can only get so many minutes from him. i don’t think finley would like to end his career on a sour note.

by blockedshot on Mar 2, 2010 12:31 PM CST up reply actions  

He won't come here

He wants to play for a contender. The Bulls are not that. He’s likely headed to Boston.

by Poloplaya14 on Mar 2, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Its TIME TO

SHUT DOWN THE CARTER on Finley’s career, he is done.

by QUINTEN DALEY on Mar 3, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm worried

I am concerned we will lose Noah for the rest of the year or at best have a compromised Noah. What kills me is that we agreed to allow Milwaukee to swap first round picks. If Milwaukee finishes above us they get the better pick. Our bench stinks. I agree with above comments. The roster is too short.

by chgobr on Mar 2, 2010 1:27 PM CST reply actions  

think of it this way

worse pick = lower cap hold :)

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Short roster

You’d get as much production on the court from a pair of D-leaguers as you do from Benny the Bull’s sidekicks at the end of the bench. Certainly you wouldn’t pay them as much.

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by mdmnd9294 on Mar 2, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

You'll get

more production out of Benny The Bull

by QUINTEN DALEY on Mar 3, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

who cares about a pick anyway, the bulls are in the run for a big time free agent

as long as they draft a shooting guard I’d be ok with that

don't let the bed bugs bite

by Rex Grossman on Mar 3, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

nick friedle said

there’s a possibility of letting Hunter go for Chris Richard

I'm cuckoo for Kukoc!!!

by Yibs on Mar 2, 2010 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

link?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

we all know thi s team is slightly better than mediocre at full power

and we all know that they have no depth. So why is anyone really upset or surprised that they can’t win with two of their three best players injured?

I’m just frustrated with the way Noah’s situation has been handled. But we see other teams have the same problem with the plantar injuries, so maybe it’s just a damn hard injury to get a bead on.

VDN is doing all he can IMO. He’s an average coach (we all know his flaws, not going to go into them now), not even the best coaches (Phil, Pops) could do much with this current roster.

by madvillian on Mar 2, 2010 1:46 PM CST reply actions  

IS anyone really upset?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

some people are, I don't think it's too much of a red herring

post game threads on realgm and here usually have at least a few people who think the sky is falling.

by madvillian on Mar 2, 2010 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

update: Richard signed, Hunter waived

Bulls signed Chris Richard and waived Lindsey Hunter. Hunter is now ‘Organizational guy’. Sham has let me know that the Bulls still get the partial reimbursement of Hunter’s salary (as a 10-year vet) from the league Though that makes me wonder why they didn’t waive him earlier, as I thought if they did so they’d be forfeiting that amount.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 2:22 PM CST reply actions  

NOOOOOOOO

I was just getting used to Lindsey and his spiffy suits :(

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Mar 2, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

he can still wear them!

I wonder if he goes right behind the bench now, next to Randy Brown.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously..

Will he go straight to assistant coach or it will be a gradual thing? Has a player ever gone from the end of the bench to the front of it as an assistant coach between games?

by Grinder in Training on Mar 2, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Eric Snow?

12/31/08: Fire Vinny Del Negro.(upd: 1/7/10)

by NBA Observer on Mar 2, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I think he went right to NBATV

and was still getting a player paycheck while doing so. Matt Harpring is doing the same this year.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Damon Stoudemire did this with the Griz.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Sam Cassell

Official Adrian Wojnarowski Hater.

The Ardent Optimist.

by fajunga on Mar 3, 2010 3:53 AM CST up reply actions  

you posed a good question

why didnt they just waive him earlier?

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Mar 2, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

by 'earlier' I mean at the trading deadline

I guess they figured Noah was going to come back.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

yea i knew u meant then

cutting richard was a mistake..i am sure they expected noah back, but i am also sure they realized how terribly thin they were up front while they had too many players in the backcourt (maybe they thought having a bunch of sucky players would equal a decent player?) and richard was still on a 10 day contract, they couldve just let it expire, im sure it wouldnt have been that bad.

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by piccolomair on Mar 2, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Why did they sign him at the beginning of the year in the first place?

Was he the organization’s designated “Tyrus babysitter”, and now they don’t need him? Who’s going to play Rock-Paper-Scissors on the bench with Jerome James now?
It just seems like a wasted opportunity to have some production at a position instead of just some guy whom Grampa Jer and Uncle Pax are fond of.

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by mdmnd9294 on Mar 2, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Start of the year

Basically I think they assumed they didn’t need anyone to fill that 15th spot, and whoever they did add wouldn’t have got any time on the court anyways, so might as well have the league pay for their assistant coach.

Now.. they clearly do need the roster spot, so you bite the bullet, pay for his salary as a coach and add a player that can actually help the team (Chris Richard).

by Grinder in Training on Mar 2, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

d'oh you beat me

but, yeah.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

It's easier to get it posted quickly

When it’s poorly written and doesn’t include as much information. And yes.. James, Gray & Pargo combined with Hunter on the roster is what doesn’t make sense to me either.

I guess though, if you know you aren’t winning this year, adding guys who get along with the rest of the team, on one year deals, who won’t cause trouble isn’t the worst way to go about it. If the idea is to let Noah, Deng and Rose, and to a lesser extent Gisbon improve until you can add a superstar, I guess it’s not so awful.

They aren’t going to take any time on the court, or be a lockerroom issue (although it seems Gray was a douche).

by Grinder in Training on Mar 2, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I had a twitter fight with Sham and he called me cynical!

my (somewhat facetious) theory is that the Bulls, in their neverending Org. philosophy of valuing loyalty over effectiveness, figured they wanted Hunter as a coach, but they could save money (through the league reimbursement) and give Hunter more money if he was a player instead.

I guess I could see the idea that there’s a different dynamic when the guys are listening to a ‘player’, even though they know that player is washed up and likely tattling on them to the Org.

Besides, it’s not really about Hunter’s wasted spot, it’s Hunter+James+Gray+Pargo and 4 wasted spots.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

wasted spots on a tax-straddling team, no less.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

on top of drafting a project in JJ

which essentially made 5 wasted spots.

Joakim on whether he ever tried tennis: "I played a little bit. If anybody on the Bulls wanted to play me, I would kick their ass."

by bigballa10 on Mar 2, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

True - Hunter's just the easy target based on today's news

And I know James is a special case because of his injury, but it’s easy to agree with your cynicism on the team’s use of the end of the bench.

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by mdmnd9294 on Mar 2, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

The Bulls saved no money by bringing back Hunter as a player instead of coach; in fact, they spent a sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyit load more. Assistant coaches do not get $825k salaries, nowhere close to it. And first time assistant coaches definitely do not.

The league reimbursement is not some big mystery or devious manipulation that the Bulls entered into. Not only is it automatic, but it’s also commonplace. There are 37 players in the NBA right now to whom the system applies, plus a couple more who have been waived. And 23 out of the 30 NBA teams have a player under contract right now that applies for (and will get) the reimbursement. Of those that don’t

- Utah has only a 12 man roster.
- The Lakers have only a 13 man roster.
- Houston had one to start the season (Pops Mensah-Bonsu) but were reprieved of their cap obligations to him when Toronto (another one of the 7) claimed him off waivers, only to waive him later themselves.
- Cleveland have three players earning the second year player minimum or less, and had two others at various points this season as well.
- The Timberwolves did have one with Jason Hart, whom they traded to the Suns.
- The Nets have too many bad contracts and debts to take one on.

The reimbursement is a commonplace practice, and by using it, the Bulls were both sensible and normal. It is very rare for a team to sign a veteran player to a minimum salaried contract of more than one year anyway, and when such moves take place (Eric Piatkowski at Phoenix, Devin Brown with the Hornets, Calvin Booth with the Sixers), that move is usually a bad one.

Bringing back Lindsey as a player meant spending a lot more money than the alternative would have otherwise meant, regardless of the veteran’s reimbursement thing. Why, then, did they bring back Lindsey as a player and not a coach? Presumably, it’s because Lindsey insisted. If Lindsey wanted to play one more year and wouldn’t coach until he had done so/tried to do so, the Bulls hands were tied.

by Sham-onnnnnnnnnnna on Mar 2, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Oops... I should have kept reading instead of responding to the first post I saw

That being said, the Bulls hands weren’t really tied in any meaningful sense.

They could have simply told Lindsey to take a fucking hike. Preferably a long one off Navy Pier.

by Sports2 on Mar 2, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Hinrich's already the vet influential thursty PG

Randy Brown is already the former player now development coach. Pete Myers….is there.

Hunter did dress down Tyrus Thomas at practice that one time, so that was something.

Like I said I won’t discount the value (I’ll discount it being worth a roster spot when they’re needed) of Hunter as a ‘player’ over a coach, but are NBA players so dense they really can’t see through what it really was when Hunter couldn’t play?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

(that last bit was rhetorical)

I think the players likely knew, and won’t treat Lindsey any differently if he was coaching Thursday.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Of course they had no obligation to keep Hunter, but they wanted to, and that was the cost. It is not a significant contribution; the only thing it cost us was a roster spot. And now it doesn’t even cost us that.

They could have told Lindsey to swivel, but what was the point of that? The search for good coaches is an endless and often fruitless one. If they think they’ve found one, they should keep him.

by Sham-onnnnnnnnnnna on Mar 2, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

the alternative is paying for established ones

who, and I admit, are mostly vindictive A-holes who can harm more than help, but yeah. Bulls getting in on the ground (low, low, ground) floor on coaching talent to save money keep that precious coaching fruit isn’t new.

Like, the Mavs traveling retread show of Carlisle/Casey/Stotts. I’d guess they’re making more, but yet they are not Organizational guys.

I’m not even sure what I’m arguing anymore.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

In Bickerstaff, Ociepka and Harris (RIP), do we not have enough established coaches? Those boys won’t have been cheap.

“Organisational guy” is just filler for “we’ll make your job title official in the summer.”

by Sham-onnnnnnnnnnna on Mar 2, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

fair enough, Bulls did pay a lot in established assistants last season

“Organizational guy” not only means what you say, it also means that “when you’re fired you’re still with us”, i.e. Adams and Myers post-Skiles.

 Or it means “when you quit you’re still with us”, i.e. Pax. It’s a nice status.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

They add

Hunter to Funk and King during the offseason, get that 3 man weave going in the booth.

by QUINTEN DALEY on Mar 3, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

So is Hunter a high lottery pick in the future NBA coaches draft?

That’s an interesting question I’ve never thought about?

What’s his floor? Pete Meyers with more tasteful decor?

What’s the ceiling? He replaces Vinny 20 games in next year? Sweet.

More seriously, that last one sounds quite plausible.

by Sports2 on Mar 2, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

it is interesting if that's really the Bulls angle

nurturing that future coaching fruit.

But that’s a different motivation than having him as a locker room influence for this season. I wonder how much they value it, or just liked saying it.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Lindsey Hunter, head coach?

That actually could be a possibility. I don’t know if I’d be for or against it.

by Poloplaya14 on Mar 2, 2010 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I do not know how much Asst. Coaches make

Del Harris made more, but he’s special. I suppose $800k is more like Head Coach money for the Bulls! (zing to the max)

I don’t see how signing Hunter was spending more money than the alternative, if the alternative was an actual useful player. The Bulls could’ve probably done without…whatever Lindsey brought, but they valued it nonetheless, and it was a favor to the guy to keep him Org. 4 lyfe, and it didn’t hurt them any until they needed the roster spot, which they do now. I’m not saying it’s a big deal either I just like to figure out the mad genius of the Bulls.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

See Kirk Hinrich's invaluableness ( i know it's made-up)
The Bulls could’ve probably done without…whatever (enter wasted roster spot here) brought, but they valued it nonetheless, and it was a favor to the guy to keep him Org. 4 lyfe

I always knew it was danger having absolutely zero depth.
They only had 9 guys worth playing; Rose, Kirk, Deng, Tyrus, Noah, Gibson, Miller, Salmons, James Johnson; to start the season.
They sent the Bulls secret service to go out and find Pargo and forge his signature to a $2 mil contract. They could not have expected much out of the rookies, and knew they didn’t want Tyrus around long term. Yet they WANTED Gray. WANTED Pargo. WANTED Hunter. I understand the Jerome James situation. But that’s absolutely horrible management to have no alternative in the event an injury does occur.
They’re lucky they’ve gotten what they have out of Gibson, but he will hit the wall. There is no mad genius in the ORG. This team is crossing fingers on one hand while counting their profit with the other.

by kingj41 on Mar 3, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

fuck, we're still paying Jim Paxson?

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 3, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

He used frequent

training sessions at the Golden Corall to round in shape.

by QUINTEN DALEY on Mar 3, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

This is truly the online equivalent of a couple homeless guys fighting over a ham sandwhich

For the record, I guess I agree with Sham that it wasn’t really cheapness since, at the end of the day, we were talking about the Bulls figuring out a way to pay the guy more money.

I could be wrong, but I bet the $800k the Bulls themselves had to pay out is more than the average assistant coach makes.

by Sports2 on Mar 2, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

It’s way, way, WAY more.

by Sham-onnnnnnnnnnna on Mar 2, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Sham, off topic

I’m trying to get salary data from past years, and I tried finding it on your site and came up empty. Do you have it available somewhere?

by YaoPau on Mar 2, 2010 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

No, and the only couple of sources on the net are very inaccurate.

by Sham-onnnnnnnnnnna on Mar 2, 2010 6:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Check out Basketball Reference...

They have individual salaries going way back…its not organized all pretty, but the data is available on the individual team pages…

Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.

by Dionysus2.0 on Mar 2, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Doug Collins must be weeping

He knows now that he’ll never get to say “Lindsey Lee Hunter” during a telecast again.

by Option27 on Mar 2, 2010 2:43 PM CST reply actions  

As you might presently yourselves fully be aware of, my grammar sucks. Also, the NBA reimburses teams some of a player’s salary, if they are a player with two years or more experience who is signed to a one year minimum salary contract. The keys words there are “SOME,” “two years or more experience”, and “one year minimum.” Lindsey Hunter is 76 years old and has 53 years of NBA experience, and he re-signed to a one year minimum salary deal in the offseason; therefore, he clearly qualified. The amount that the league reimburses is the difference between that player’s minimum salary and the minimum salary of a third year player/two year veteran, which is $1,306,455 – $825,497 = $480,958. And so that is the amount of Lindsey’s salary that the league pays (or rather; reimburses come season’s end). The Bulls pay the whole thing and get all but $825,497 back at the end. Lindsey gets it all.

The fact that he was waived does not change this. It would have done were his salary only partially guaranteed and we were waiving him before the guarantee date, but we clearly are not. The Bulls will be paying $1,306,455, and therefore, the league will be reimbursing the $480,958.

By the way, despite the fact that he’s played a quite solid half an hour for us this season, Chris Richard is crap and far from the best option here. This will become apparent.

by Sham-onnnnnnnnnnna on Mar 2, 2010 2:43 PM CST reply actions  

agreed on that last point

I find Chris Richard love even more odd than Derrick Byars love. None worse than Eddie Basden love.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 2:46 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I like his hair.

And it’s not going to be any less of a trainwreck than watching Brad when he doesn’t feel like trying.

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Mar 2, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Chris Richard is certainly no Eddy Curry, but...

at the 4/5 spots, Chris Richard >>> Lindsay Hunter

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by mdmnd9294 on Mar 2, 2010 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

eh

he’s a big body that can take up space, use some fouls, and give Brad a breather. He wasn’t totally useless and even put up a couple of buckets. I was lobbying to get him back too.

by NormVanBeer on Mar 2, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Chris Richard is better than Jannero Pargo.

Derrick Byars? Also better than Jannero Pargo. HE WOULD EVEN COST LESS.
I guess after your team signs Jannero Pargo to the BAE after he gets a PER of around 10 in Euroleague play, you tend to get excited whenever anything that isn’t on that level happens.

Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!

by Prevenge on Mar 2, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Only "Bulls" requirement is

Richards has to be more useful than Gray. Not much of a goal, but attainable.

Bulls don’t yet have or set championship goals!

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by exult463 on Mar 3, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

The Eddie Basden love

was riddiculous, my friend had his jersey hanging up in his closet, he loves the miscellaneous, try hard, last spot on the bench athlete.

by QUINTEN DALEY on Mar 3, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

tell your friend John Paxson to get back to work.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 3, 2010 10:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Question, how do you know all of these things? Or, are you just digging for dirt that we're too lazy to find?

Is there a NBA salary cap class in the UK? Do you have nice teeth? I’m full of questions.

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Mar 2, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Your 404 page is awesome.

As well, your server is always down nowadays in the early morning of eastern time, at least for me. What’s up with that?

by NittanyCub on Mar 2, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

LMAO!

Lindsey Hunter is 76 years old and has 53 years of NBA experience,

We miss you, Tyrus Thomas and Ben Gordon!

by Granny Waiters on Mar 2, 2010 8:57 PM CST up reply actions  

It goes down for 20 minutes every morning while GoDaddy “restarts the Tomcat server,” whatever the hell that means. They try to do it at the quietest possible hour to avoid anyone noticing, but some people stay up late.

by Sham-onnnnnnnnnnna on Mar 2, 2010 3:07 PM CST reply actions  

It would appear that I still need to piece together a basic understanding of SBNation’s reply feature.

by Sham-onnnnnnnnnnna on Mar 2, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

it's a long waiting list for the next class.

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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 2, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

It’s not my fault. You’re [generic] responding to the post at the bottom a lot, and there’s your box for typing in all set up and ready and stuff. So you type in it, only to find it’s not the right reply box. It could confuse a stupid person. I might complain in writing. Although I’d probably write in the wrong box or something.

by Sham-onnnnnnnnnnna on Mar 2, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Sham-onnnnnnnna, your comment that the reply button could "confuse a stupid person"

should be expanded to include it could confuse even an extremely intelligent person as well, for it has caught me posting to the wrong spot so many times, I’ve lost count, even though I humbly consider myself a genius in my own mind. So don’t fret YfBB will not ban you permanently the first 10 or 15 times, although you will probably drive other posters to drink even more heavily than they’re accustomed to.

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by Tyrusmancrush on Mar 2, 2010 7:17 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Perusing through the waived players list...

Does anybody else think we should take a flyer on Mike James? The guy can’t be any worse than Pargo. I think he’d certainly be more valuable than Joe Alexander.

by Poloplaya14 on Mar 2, 2010 3:55 PM CST reply actions  

i thought brown couldnt be worse than pargo...

i was wrong…very wrong…

On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!

by piccolomair on Mar 2, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah well what's the harm in bringing him in on the veteran's minimum and giving him a look

Looking at his numbers, the guy basically is Pargo except with higher %s, more assists, and fewer turnovers.

by Poloplaya14 on Mar 2, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

He used to be decent

but at this point he’s at least as bad as Pargo with a worse jumper. Besides, we need a big far more than another pg.

Joakim on whether he ever tried tennis: "I played a little bit. If anybody on the Bulls wanted to play me, I would kick their ass."

by bigballa10 on Mar 2, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I disagree

I think he’d be better than Pargo. Last year he posted a TS% of .483. Not stellar by any means, but much better than Pargo’s .432.

by Poloplaya14 on Mar 2, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

What about the fact that we

already have Pargo and Law and need a big?

Joakim on whether he ever tried tennis: "I played a little bit. If anybody on the Bulls wanted to play me, I would kick their ass."

by bigballa10 on Mar 2, 2010 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree

Definitely need a Big, that recent game against indiana said it all. The back-court is way to crowded now.

by Bullseye1 on Mar 2, 2010 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha.. this.

If Jannero Pargo is on the court at any point in the game, your back court is clearly not crowded.

by Grinder in Training on Mar 3, 2010 8:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, its crowded...just not "good" crowded.

2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"

by OznCoop on Mar 3, 2010 8:47 AM CST up reply actions  

who else would like to see AC Law get a few min?

I sure would sit Pargo sorry buttox!

2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"

by OznCoop on Mar 2, 2010 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't argue with that

We just really need somebody that can rebound and defend with Noah out. Apparently Richard is coming back so I guess this is all moot.

Joakim on whether he ever tried tennis: "I played a little bit. If anybody on the Bulls wanted to play me, I would kick their ass."

by bigballa10 on Mar 2, 2010 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

What exactly does this mean?
“We’re going to bring Chris Richard back and bring another big guy back, hopefully [Wednesday],” Bulls head coach Vinny Del Negro said after practice Tuesday. “But we need our guys to get healthy. One guy’s not going to control the glass for us. I think it’s going to help. Chris did a good job when he was here. He knows what we’re doing. He’s a good kid. So we’ll get him back in here [Wednesday].”

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=4959917

Bring another big guy back? Are they talking about Miller or Noah? Are they talking about signing someone else?

by Option27 on Mar 2, 2010 5:38 PM CST reply actions  

One things is for sure,

whomever he is rambling about is sure to suck dick, because Noah and Miller are far too slow right now to be playing.

2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"

by OznCoop on Mar 2, 2010 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting

I believe the Bulls had Steven Hill at training camp for like a day. Jared Reiner’s still out there. And dare I say Luke Schenscher.

by YaoPau on Mar 2, 2010 6:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow we're getting desperate

Jared Reiner and Luke schenscher. It’s come to that.

by Poloplaya14 on Mar 2, 2010 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Psh, remember Lawrence Funderburke after Curry went down?

We’ve seen worse.

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Mar 3, 2010 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

what was the guy's name

who got his head cracked by the D-League dude? Big Andy??

by NormVanBeer on Mar 3, 2010 12:37 AM CST up reply actions  

My condolences.

I own Dalibor Bagaric’s road jersey.

We miss you, Tyrus Thomas and Ben Gordon!

by Granny Waiters on Mar 3, 2010 4:50 AM CST up reply actions  

i liked chanting lluuukkkeeee

when he used to be here…

i miss longley

I'm cuckoo for Kukoc!!!

by Yibs on Mar 2, 2010 8:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Suit up Bill Wennington!

Are they talking about signing someone else?

We miss you, Tyrus Thomas and Ben Gordon!

by Granny Waiters on Mar 2, 2010 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

So... no Devin Brown buyout?

"You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless! You gotta hope even more, and cover your ears and go 'bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla!'"

by Teri on Mar 2, 2010 5:47 PM CST reply actions  

no, he now assumes the role of Lidsay Hunter.

 The old man who never played but made a million bucks to sit the bench and pretend like he was mentoring Derrick Rose and drawing plays up for Vinny Del Negro.
Except he gets paid more than a million.

2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"

by OznCoop on Mar 2, 2010 5:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn, I was hoping we could get a DLeague big guy or something.

"You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless! You gotta hope even more, and cover your ears and go 'bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla!'"

by Teri on Mar 2, 2010 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

HUNTER GONE?

BUT WHO WILL COACH THE TEAM

by sin on Mar 2, 2010 7:19 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I am confused

why sign Mark Blount when they could sign Mikki Moore. Moore is not good, but he is a hell of a lot better than Blount. He is a good defender/rebounder and can finish inside.

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by MJ5 on Mar 2, 2010 8:21 PM CST reply actions  

i believe

mikki is still injured though.

"They should. They better. I'm Vinny Del Negro!"

by Jaina on Mar 2, 2010 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Talked to Sam Smith on my radio show

Said we are not signing a big man, Richard is it. And yeah Devin will play again although still more PARGO! YEAH! Not really…

Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.

In Vinny We Trust!

by DRose#1 on Mar 2, 2010 8:40 PM CST reply actions  

Or maybe because he is collecting social security,

hey you gotta hand it to the guy. He conned the OrG into giving him a nice little contract to kiss pine all season. I sure wouldnt pass that deal up.

2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"

by OznCoop on Mar 3, 2010 8:49 AM CST up reply actions  

so...the current list of random d-league/teamless players the Bulls sign mid/end of the year to 2 10-day contracts and then the rest of the season...

in no particular order

Linton Johnson (who made the team out of training camp, got cut, then brought back…then brought back…then brought back)
Luke Schenshure
Lawrence Fundurburke
Lindsey Hunter
Jared Riener (who made the team out of training camp, then got cut, then came back nearly a week later)
Chris Richard
Ronald Dupree
Jannero Pargo (who then got resigned twice, then played with Hornets/Europe, then came back)
Paul Shirley
Cezary Trybanski (or did we trade for him…)

am i forgetting anybody?

Why aren't they selling Rose's all star jersey?

by hongydraw on Mar 3, 2010 4:55 AM CST reply actions  

GOOD PICKUP

Finally, the bulls added another big to help in rebounded and play defense, because everyone knows brad miller can’t.

by Jermal on Mar 3, 2010 8:45 AM CST reply actions  

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