Reasons Bulls should 100% shut it down for rest of year...
As of 3/19 the bulls are now 31-37 which is 2.5 games back of the 8th playoff spot. However, I feel the bulls should just shut it down for rest of the season. Here are my reasons why:
1. If the Bulls do not make the playoffs it will truly be understandable with all the injuries. Free Agents are not going to look at this team as a non-playoff team, because they will know it was likely due to injuries they didn't make playoffs.
2. The Clippers are only 5 wins behind the Bulls for the 10th worst record. With the bulls have a top 10 protected pick with the trade with Bucks they could get a solid draft choice.
3. Toronto and/or Miami may get swept in the first round anyways so Bosh/Wade really wont care if the bulls make the playoffs or not.
4. With Deng and Noah both possibly out for season the bulls would have ZERO chance in playoffs anyways.
5. James Johnson, Acie Law are getting some solid run and managment is able to evaluate if they are rotation players for next season.
6. Finally, and most importantly, as a Bulls fan I'd rather see them not make the playoffs because of injuries/resting players vs just sucking!!!
So, in summary, I have a new slogan for the rest of this season.... It'll Be Heaven in 2011!
Thoughts on what you guys think should and will happen????
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Reasons we should not shut it down
We can still make the playoffs. Playoffs = money for JR and entertainment for fans. Argument over.
Brad Miller is god.
by Poloplaya14 on Mar 19, 2010 9:58 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
i agree we can still make the playoffs
especially if Toronto keeps tanking. I hope we do so FA will feel good about coming here.
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by TheNole9Yards on Mar 14, 2010 7:19 PM CDT
"I don't want a massage I want a FACIAL!"
--stay strong, Stacey King.
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All the players know the bulls will miss the play offs due to “injury”. I think we shut down and let it go for the rest of the season and try and get a top 10 pick.
Lerbon said
“Derrick Rose is an incredible talent and Taj Gibson and (Joakim) Noah are bright spots for them,” he said. “They have a lot of great pieces in place when they’re healthy. It’s very difficult to play and win with four starters out like they’ve had.”
by rick_ross on Mar 20, 2010 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
From the purely odd decisions on the personnel on court tonight..
I’m not convniced that you haven’t stumbled on management’s master plan.
by DisCUBbobulated on Mar 19, 2010 11:57 PM CDT reply actions
Likelihood
There are 13-15 games left in the season for the relevant teams. (Toronto = 15, Chicago = 14, Clippers = 13). Bulls are 2.5 games out of 8th in the East and 5.5 out of 10th place in the draft. It just makes sense to try and tank right now.
"I skim a LOT of what gets said here
in a race to put in a smirky retort."
-your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
Bad typo
I meant it doesn’t make sense to tank now. We’re too close to the playoffs
"I skim a LOT of what gets said here
in a race to put in a smirky retort."
-your friendly BullsBlogger on Jul 16, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
Uh...I'm sure free agents would love the chance to play with a team whose best players
are gimpy and cannot even make the last seed in the Eastern Conference. Go Bulls!
by KentuckyBullsFan on Mar 20, 2010 10:33 AM CDT reply actions
Tanking is not going to accomplish anything
we are too far ahead of the next lowest team to realistically get a worse record than them. Being 5 wins behind with only 13 games left to play is huge. That would mean us losing every single remaining game (which would be a 24 game losing streak!), losing twice to the Nets who are on pace to have the worst record in NBA history, and for the Clippers to go 5-8 at least. It’s not going to happen and there is nothing we can do about it. Short of getting lucky again and landing one of the top picks, that pick is going to Milwaukee. The best case scenario for us is getting Rose and Noah healthy enough to steal the 8th seed from Toronto, not going the other way and tanking.
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by bigballa10 on Mar 20, 2010 1:07 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah it's simple
We’re closer to the playoffs than we are to a top 10 pick.
Brad Miller is god.
by Poloplaya14 on Mar 20, 2010 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
For all those younger pups out there who say we should tank...
I remember the Elton Brand/Tyson Chandler swap and the drafting of Eddy Curry like it was yesterday. I’m done with the draft position BS. The basketball gods shined on us when we managed to luck-into Derrick Rose. If we do it purposely, Stern—I mean the odds of chance—will not be so giving. Let’s forget about what we can’t control, along with purposefull losing, and just kick as much ass as we can en route to the playoffs. I don’t care if we miss the 8th seed as long as management and VDN puts the best product on the court that they can… Which already puts us at a loss.
Chicago Bulls Management - Wasting millions on moronic rosters since 1999
by Another Afflicted Chicago Fan on Mar 20, 2010 2:45 PM CDT reply actions
We tank it and the Knicks catch up
So how can we explain that we are better situation than the Knicks? Injuries is a bad excuse.
Well besides the injury excuse...
Players the Bulls have under contract for next season:
-Derrick Rose
-Joakim Noah
-Luol Deng
- Taj Gibson
-JJ
Players the Knicks have under contract for next season:
-Toney Douglas
-Wilson Chandler
-Danilo Gallinari
-The ghost of Eddy Curry
All things being equal (marketing, fan base, weather, etc.), the Bulls absolutely crush the Knicks in the talent department. Granted the Knicks can possible afford two max free agents, but my guess is that they’ll end up getting something like Joe Johnson, David Lee and T-Mac rather than Lebron and Bosh.
"One time I went to a social gathering, I brought a bottle of Tanqueray and a shotgun and showed those motherf@ers the best time they ever had!"- Kenny Powers (Eastbound and Down)
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by gridiron_assassin on Mar 20, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
The Bulls have already shut it down this year...
It’s called giving Jannero Pargo more than 3 minutes per game, inserting him at the most inopportune times for the hottest player on the floor, and allowing him to jack up ridiculous rainbows with all kinds of time left on the shot clock. Every time Pargo is in the game, it’s the Bulls admitting that they’re done this season.
"The people we lost, I'm sad we lost them because they helped us. But the organization saw something in these players. They're going to help us. They don't have any attitude problems. They just want to ball." - Derrick Rose
2 sides of this.
1. We make the playoffs for some of that playoff money. Also, it will give us some more exposure to our stars like Rose and hopefully Noah. It also puts in a winning desire for our young guys.
2. We don’t make the playoffs, we need to shut down our stars, Noah, Rose, Deng (already out for season, 2-3 weeks) and sit Taj, dont make him worse than it is.
Now with that said, as a fan, I want to see playoffs. If we can scratch and get in, great. It will come down to the last few games as we are getting wins rarely (tonight) and Toronto falling hard. So I say, push for the playoffs, but sit Noah, or keep him 10 min. or less like they did tonight. Don’t extend his minutes. If Taj and Rose are suffering, sit them. This year is a wash, playoffs or not. For those who watched the game tonight, Rose was visable favoring his left wrist. At times he lost the ball when he went to his left, but quickly regained control. He shot well, but in the effort, I was a little worried of re-injury.
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Not so quick
The Bulls looked really good tonight. Rose started and tore up Philly. Noah was on the court and looking like his foot was holding up. The defense seemed to get motivated with Noah available again.
Plus – Playoff experience is important – Rose, JJ, Taj, etc can use the games as a warm up for next years Championship run!
by South Jersey Wedding Photographer on Mar 21, 2010 2:23 AM CDT reply actions
You don't pack it in till your eliminated. Plain and simple.
I can’t even believe some people are even entertaining this suggestion.
United we stand and united we'll fall......down on our knees when we win it all!
by Bricks and Ivy on Mar 21, 2010 11:18 AM CDT reply actions
How can you shut down Derrick Rose?
This player improves every single game. To not give him the best winning chance possible will stunt his growth. The pressure of the playoff race especially will give Derrick Rose the reason to keep expanding his game.
Bosh or Bust
+1
Yet another reason you NEVER pack it in.
United we stand and united we'll fall......down on our knees when we win it all!
by Bricks and Ivy on Mar 21, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Pointless
Can we end the tanking talk here, please? Trying your hardest to get to the postseason is what athletics (any sport, any level) is all about. If you have a chance to make it, you try to make it. I’d rather make the playoffs and get swept by CLE in the first round than cheat (which is what tanking is) our way to the worst possible record.
I think the confidence of Rose and Noah spiked as a result of their performances in the 2009 playoffs. You want to showcase your team on the national stage for FAs and for fans. If only for 2 weeks, the Bulls-Celtics series made people care about the Bulls again. It was exciting. As a fan, I loved it (even if I didn’t love the ending).
If we were talking about tanking to get a shot at Wall or Turner, my attitude might change. But we’re not. The Bulls are on the doorstep of the playoffs and have almost no chance at drafting one of the elite players this summer. The Bulls have the 11th worst record, which gives you a .8% chance of winning the lottery. The team with the 10th worst record will have a 1.1% chance of winning the lottery. That extra.3% chance is not worth the money or player development that comes with the playoffs.
The difference in the quality of player who will be available at 10 versus who will still be on the board at 17 is negligible. If we are seriously worried about getting Patrick Patterson versus Solomon Alabi, this team has much bigger problems than where it is drafting.
The only things that matter now are player development (and I mean our real players, not Acie Law) and showcasing the team to FAs. Making the playoffs accomplishes those goals; tanking is a waste of time.
by Stay Chisel on Mar 21, 2010 4:22 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
plus, what better way to convince LeBron we're worth a look next year
than to actually give the Cavs a fight in the first round?
No
1. If the Bulls do not make the playoffs it will truly be understandable with all the injuries. Free Agents are not going to look at this team as a non-playoff team, because they will know it was likely due to injuries they didn’t make playoffs.
But you’re advocating holding out guys even after they might be healthy again, which would be tanking. Free agents will not understand our problems to be due to injuries, but due to not letting healthy players play. They’ll look at us as a bunch of douches. If we don’t tank, we can still point to the fact that our guys missed significant time, so we actually can use the injury excuse. If we do tank, it undercuts that excuse, and maybe teams just think we don’t have any pride and sitting out our best players and getting our asses handed to us
2. The Clippers are only 5 wins behind the Bulls for the 10th worst record. With the bulls have a top 10 protected pick with the trade with Bucks they could get a solid draft choice.
The Clippers will be trying to lose too. Making up 5 games in 14 is very unlikely.
3. Toronto and/or Miami may get swept in the first round anyways so Bosh/Wade really wont care if the bulls make the playoffs or not.
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4. With Deng and Noah both possibly out for season the bulls would have ZERO chance in playoffs anyways.
But they’re not for sure.
5. James Johnson, Acie Law are getting some solid run and managment is able to evaluate if they are rotation players for next season.
Well ok, there’s a good reason to avoid several million bucks worth of playoff revenue and prestige.
6. Finally, and most importantly, as a Bulls fan I’d rather see them not make the playoffs because of injuries/resting players vs just sucking!!!
Injuries and resting players are two different things. So this is basically just reason 1. Which is silly, because it reduces to somehow saying it’s better to lose because you just sit on your ass and not try than to strive and compete but come up short.
by Sports2 on Mar 21, 2010 9:07 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
yes...
after i posted this I realized how dumb I was being. I was very pesimistic about the rest of this season. I know the Bulls should fight for that final playoff spot. At the time i wrote this post there was news of Deng being out for rest of season, noah possibly being out for season, and no news on Rose. All i knew is that the bulls could be playing with the lineup of Pargo, Hinrich, Murray, Gibson, and Miller for almost rest of season.
For honor for glory.
NEVER pack it in or it will bite you in the ass. I.E. The Portland Trailblazers.

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