What Should Our Free Agent Strategy Be?
We all know who we want to come here, but who should be our 1st priority? And do we just line up visits, or should we go to whoever that #1 priority is and be at his door at 12:01AM at the beginning of Free Agency?
To me this is a big time matter. We all know Lebron, DWade, and Bosh are our top 3 targets, but they're everyone's top 3 targets. So do u wait and line up visits for each one, wine and dine em then let them make a decision. Using that strategy could be very dangerous, because what if the guy we really want, doesn't visit us first. Most teams don't let a free agent get away once they get into town. At least, that's my experience from watching the NFL, u very rarely see a guy visit and not sign with the 1st team he visits.
Or r u at ur main guy's door at the very start of Free Agency. This is the one that I would go with, and the one that has seemed to work for Paxson and Co. before, remember the Ben Wallace signing (not his actual playing, but just the signing). But the downside to that strategy is, if u do that and don't get the guy, then u've probably alienated the other 2. So if this is the way we r going to proceed, we better be 100% certain that not only this is the guy we really want, but that this guy is going to sign with us.
I have to say that I loved reading Bosh's rant on the Raptors, and I have really changed my mind and now think it's a certainty he rolls. One observation, I made from reading the comments, is that the 2 main things he is having an issue with are: selfish play and team defense. And those 2 areas r strengths of our team. We don't really have any black holes in the lineup anymore, where the ball gets to them and stops, our offense works best (well any offense for that matter, except Cleveland) when the ball is getting moved around. And before Noah went out we were a top defensive team. Another thing I saw and took notice to, was that he feels like he's doing things by himself, with not much help around from teammates. This has to bode well for the Bulls this summer. I would be at his door at 12:01AM, with max contract in hand.
What do u guys think?
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what about getting noch back?
Practice beats talent when talent doesn't practice.
by iamsasquatch on Mar 16, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I was just being sarcastic, man.
"Oh, y ahora ¿quién podrá defenderme?" "¡Yo!"
by chapuforyou on Mar 16, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah me too
Practice beats talent when talent doesn't practice.
by iamsasquatch on Mar 16, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Joke murderer.
I saw T2 at Walgreens in Deerfield he’s tall. if you’re wondering what his grocery list included: magnums, french vanilla ice cream and a 20 oz sprite
by Super-Structure on Mar 16, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Can't we just resign Larry Hughes instead?
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
I'd rather resign Hughes than Pargo
At least he’s tall, fulfilling part of the mythical M2GWDAS [or whatever the acronym is]. Pargo fulfills approximately 0% of everything. I think the Bulls might win more games with me playing than with Pargo. Pargo isn’t even a Euroleague player, and he likes taking a billion shots, and his shot % is LOWER than hughes.
Go Rockets/Nets[CDR]/Bucks[Jennings]!
Yea Right
But I wouldn’t mind taking a flier on Shaun Livingston for cheap, seems like he may have made it back from horrible knee injury. He’s playing for the Wizards and put up 18 and 8 ast the other night.
I think all
hands should be on deck, oust Vinny as coach, but put him in the front office, have Gar and D. Rose at Bosh’s door at 11:59pm 6/30/2010, Pax and Noah at D-Wade’s door in Miami same time. Also sign one of the Collins twins, we need to replace Aaron Gray’s bench warmer production.
No one can replace the mighty Aaron Gray. How dare you.
by sweetneyisfat on Mar 21, 2010 2:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I like making Bosh #1 priority
I don’t see LeBron leaving, and I think Bosh would be better than Wade on the Bulls… unless Wade really wants to come home, and give Chicago a home town discount. In that case pitch them both!
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Mar 16, 2010 11:30 AM CDT reply actions
I like this post
We all know who the priorities should be. However, we need to be sure the player will likely sign and we need to be the first one there. Look at what the Bears did with Peppers. In all liklihood, the Bears talked with Peppers before they were supposed to to feel him out, they brought him into town immediately and didn’t let him leave without a huge contract. The Bulls should do the same. Talk to agents and players off the record and get as much information as you can get away with (or heck, not really get away with), pick the most likely of the three to sign with Chicago and get them to sign within the first 30 seconds of free agency.
Who cares who you piss off by being this overt?! And honestly, unless breaking one of these rules would cost us the free agent themself, break the rules if need be. Bring one of these three to Chicago at all costs and do it day one.
While I don't think any *wink wink* deals are currently in place...
I do think those deals will be in place in advance of July 1, meaning the Bulls will already know if any of their targets will sign with them, and such, will be at that player’s door at Midnight…
We all know who we should want; Lebron, Kobe, Wade or Bosh.
Outside that big four, I would be a little disappointed with anyone else…but if we don’t get one of the true superstars, then I would target the best available PF…Amare, Lee, Boozer or Scola…
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
I would already be camping out in front of Bosh's mailbox
Why aren't they selling Rose's all star jersey?
I say we
all post up at his door step and have a barbe-que, to let him know he’ll be much appreciated in Chicago
by QUINTEN DALEY on Mar 16, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
wouldnt a technological meeting
be more appealing?
On Behalf of Sue, Wjb, majoyenrac, Bullshooter and all the other Hinrich fans...Ill keep the Hinrich Hope coming...There will be light!
I'd be fine in order
1) Lebron, give him the max, give him a say in shaping the team, do anything you can.
2) Wade, more plausible perhaps than Lebron, though who knows. I don’t really see either Wade or Lebron leave without a 6th year, and I don’t think we have the assets sans Rose to make a deal a go in a sign and trade without a 3rd team….and why would a 3rd team help us?
So let’s go in the perhaps likelies:
1. Bosh. He’s younger than Boozer and healthier and seems motivated to leave Toronto. I also don’t know if he wants to be a #2 to Wade in Miami, our biggest threat….and I don’t see the Clipps going after him hard with Griffin and Kaman and the fact that they are the Clipps. We have New York to compete with, and I would think we have the upper hand (talent, a first round pick actually, even if it’s Milwaukee’s) and Bosh seemed eager to run and gun with Rose in that All Star Game, for what it’s worth.
2) Boozer. Sure he’s had injury issues…and his D is somewhat questionable (which star’s isn’t? hell even Kobe has a better “Rep” as a defender because he is capable of being a shut down defender, but doesn’t always bring it. I guess Duncan and KG are defenders first with a nice O game….and Lebron is flashy but still sometimes lost there….but who cares, if he’s healthy….He’s a 17-10 over his career player, 2 times been over 20-10 and this year he’s half a point away from 20-11+….that’s solid. Pairing him and being able to keep a good defensive SF (Deng) and C (Noah) would be something. Plus actually having a true blue post player (he’s the best back to the bakset post guy not called Lebron that’s available). He’ll be 29 at the start of next year. We get him through the time he’s 34….it’s risky, but if we win 1, it’s worth it. And to me a starting lineup of Rose-Hinrich-Deng-Boozer-Noah is a title contender especially with Taj, and now it seems James Johnson, our draft pick (SG help), etc. I worry that the Jazz might bite the bullet and keep Boozer….I mean they get the Knicks pick to add to an already stacked roster, and they have AK47 expiring after next year (trade bait to fill the luxury gap there). Heck I’ve always liked AK47 too, even if he’s severely overpaid…..
3. Stoudemire. It’s a shame, as STAT is remarkably gifted, he should fit in perfectly on O with another run and gun PG in Rose and an athletic C in Noah who can defend….but the 2 knees, eye problems, seemingly difficult nature (rumours in the locker room, letting trade rumours severely effect his play), he’s had a lot going on for a guy on the verge of a potential 2nd max contract. Let him be the Knicks problem. A good problem to have I suppose, esp if it works out because of his talents, but I’d take those above of him first.
4. Joe Johnson. Johnson could move up if say the Bulls are convinced that there’s more in Taj than we’ve seen given that Taj has been playing with plantar facitis for what 3 months now…..and hell I’ve liked the growth James Johson has suddenly shown (looking like a nice pickup after all, after a horrendously nervous herky jerky scared to shoot first 3 months).
5. David Lee. If we had Lee I might at first be a bit disappointed, as I see us getting him means more likely the Knicks grabbed 2 of those above us here….but he could be a nice Boozer light and could make us dangerous. I don’t want to count David Lee out of anything, even if I do think the system he plays and lack of talent around him have made him better than he would be when paired with a few mega talents (Rose for sure)….I think he might be a nice option though….but the max? I hope not.
If we don’t get any of these above I’ll be extremely disappointed with the exception obviously if Kobe or Dirk became available, I’d love it, both are aging, but so what, Dirk’s skill set should keep him viable for at least 3-4 more years, and Kobe’s the NBA’s current biggest competitor (MJ-lite) I wouldn’t count Kobe out of anything….they’d move just behind Bosh perhaps on this list because of their age, though I would put all 3 in a tie.
If none of these work the last saving grace for Chicago:
1) Pry either David West out of the Hornets or
2) Find a way to deal Hinrich and something for AK47 (who expires next year).
I actually think a lineup of
Rose-free agent 2 guard(s) (not Joe Johnson or Wade as I presume it doesnt’ work out), Deng, AK47, Noah will be really good even if the 2 guard is by committee….
7/1/2010: D. Wade comes back home
by majoyenrac on Mar 16, 2010 1:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Also last saving
grace, get Al Jefferson
by QUINTEN DALEY on Mar 16, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Is there something wrong with Big Al.
His numbers are down this year.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
The Bulls shrink like a dick in cold water.
Players in mostly all sports, it
takes them a year to get back to playing at their respected level after a major injury
by QUINTEN DALEY on Mar 16, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
His totals are down
But his effectiveness is about the same, it’s just that Love is taking some touches and Al hasn’t had exactly the same role.
He is also recovering from a major injury, but his numbers aren’t horribly off the past….so I think role has as much to do with it as the injury at this point….he’s good.
7/1/2010: D. Wade comes back home
Not really
They are running a new offense and different things are expected of him now, and Love is growing up a bit. And of course the injury. He’s still solid.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 17, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Good analysis
I’ve been down on Boozer, but you’ve made me realize he could be a good fit with a decent 2-guard.
by El Toro de Goro on Mar 16, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
See I think
If we have him we’re better than the Jazz.
Derrick is approaching DWill levels but doesn’t have a post player to pass too.
Noah is far superior to pair next to Boozer than Okur, with his mix of D, athleticism, and high IQ….
And I think Deng’s a push over AK47 and with Taj, JJ, and additional monies leftover, I would hope we could surpass Millsap in the depth dept.
And I really think the Jazz are solid, I think they are like the mid 2000’s Mavs and might turn that page next year with or without Boozer if they say get the #1 pick….or top 5 pick….who knows….
7/1/2010: D. Wade comes back home
A lot depends on what seems likely on July 1
If it becomes abundantly clear that LeBron will stay, you don’t waste your time. But you can’t come to that conclusion yet, so you have to target him. I don’t think Wade or Bosh will think less of the Bulls for determining that LeBron is a once-in-a-generation player and going after him first, particularly if everyone else in the league with cap space does that same thing (and everyone will).
Brad Miller is god.
I recommended this post.
I think it is an intriguing thing to think about. Gordon agreed to a deal with the Pistons right away. Others have taken their time.
One thing to keep in mind. There is a 7-day moratorium on free agent signings. July 1st, teams can start talking to players, but they can’t start signing players until July 8th… This is so that the league has a week to figure out the financials post-Finals, post-Draft, etc., determine a cap, lux tax, max salaries, blah blah blah.
So, it’s unlike the NFL, where you can keep the guy and wow him and he won’t go anywhere else. I highly doubt A) any of these guys visit with anyone until at least the first “day” (i.e. not at midnight), just to avoid looking like they set it all up beforehand, and I’d be reluctant to think their egos will keep them from being wined & dined by multiple teams before publicly addressing who they will sign with… even if they have decided on whoever.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Good point
In the NFL, a visit essentially equals a signing. Not the case in the NBA.
Brad Miller is god.
While the team has to wait to officially sign the player, it's still can be the case that marquee free agents make their choices quickly
I recall the Duncan, Hill, McGrady trio being sorted out shortly after midnight July 1 with reports it was actually sorted out well before then. While that was 10 years ago, it was the first summer with the signing moratorium.
Baron Davis had agreed to go to the Clippers on July 1. I’m trying to find other examples of max or near max level FAs that changed teams.
Most, it seems, either signed extensions, decided on a new team quickly, or had big question marks that caused teams to hesitate at throwing max money at them. For prime FAs like James, Wade, and Bosh, I’d bet their destinations are known before anyone eats lunch July 1. The one exception I can really think of is Brand, but that situation was a little different as the Sixers scrambled to open up cap space to bring him in while he was negotiating with the Clippers.
It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.
George Washington
I understand your point.
I responded below: http://www.blogabull.com/2010/3/16/1375566/what-should-our-free-agent#32698506
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
I'm more interested in the process, which is to say sign and trades and three way trades.
With sign and trades, we can make our cap space go much further, and with three way trades we can involve teams that are over the LT and want relief.
Althought some of these players play the same position, I would be interested in Fernandez, Pryz, Bosh Gortat, Wade, Millsap to name a few. With sign and trades and multi-team trades the Bulls could make that happen. A hugh amount of flexibility.
I think a sign and trade
Would have been more sensible if we had guys like Tyrus Thomas still on the roster and not Kirk Hinrich. Guys that other teams would have wanted in return.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 17, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah, not that anyone would have wanted tyrus that badly, but guys like him (potential guys on
cheap deals) are the only ones i think would get moved in a S & T. i know some people thought a guy like ben gordon (talented and on a long term deal) would have been useful in this regard, but if im toronto and i just lost a franchise player im looking to blow this shit up, not condemn myself to 5 years of 33 win seasons starring ben gordon, hedo and bargs for a combined 30M.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
Tyrus would be an RFA this summer
I’m not sure how cheap you could get a team to accept him an a S/T. He’d at least get a 3-year deal. Plus there’s the sticky mess of getting him to play ball.
Still likely a better trade piece than Kurt.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 17, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
right, obviously he wouldnt have worked specifically. but guys like him, though earlier in their career.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
Yeah..
Probably should have used someone other then Tyrus, just picked a young guy off the top of my head. Taj or Johnson would be a better example of the types of guys that would work.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 18, 2010 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Can they even trade Hedo and Calderon?
Blow it up to build around Bargnani and DeRozan?
I’d rather run with
Calderon
Gordon
DeRozan – James Johnson
Turkoglu – Bulls’ first round pick
Bargnani – rights to Asik
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
first of all, that team is only good for keeping you from a high draft pick.
of course you wouldnt build around derozan and andrea. you need high picks, nothing else. the hedo thing is lousy, you did it to try to keep bosh and youd unload him if you could, but youre probably stuck with him. i dont see how taking on gordon helps anything at all.
"Oooohhh, cat in the wall, eh? Now you're talkin' my language."
That teams not gonna be contending for a while.
It’s easier to move hedo and calderon than it is to move hedo, calderon AND gordon. In any case, I wouldn’t want to have to rely on Toronto accepting gordon’s contract to get bosh.
Brad Miller is god.
The team they have now what be contending for awhile either.
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
Which is why they should be looking to blow it up, rather than taking on more big contracts.
Brad Miller is god.
by Poloplaya14 on Mar 18, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
even if they blow it up, they won't be contending for awhile
how many teams “blow it up” and end up contending?
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
that is one of the benifits to the Bulls front office
Paxson, Gar, and Reinsdorf can each call a diffferent FA at the same time at 12:01. Since it isn’t clear who the head man is. The FAs won’t know if they are being disrespected.
They need to
show up at the door with a core player, like in my previous post, Kirk isn’t allowed, his fiestyness might rub a FA the wrong way along with his 41% fg%
by QUINTEN DALEY on Mar 16, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
What they need to do is figure out how Adidas cloned Derrick five or six times
in the commercial and send a clone to each big FA’s house to woo him into coming to the Bulls.
Metal sharpens metal.
And this guy right here understands and knows what leadership is all about: The coach, the hall of famer......... Dick Butka! George Ryan
The Bulls shrink like a dick in cold water.
by dakoose on Mar 16, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
or just make our starting line up all derricks
sure we’d suck on defense, but we would score on every single possession, and it would be very fun to watch. plus no need to stress over FAs
Practice beats talent when talent doesn't practice.
by iamsasquatch on Mar 16, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
don't you see a scenario where these guys take their time?
No doubt LeBron at least will relish the chance to be wined and dined for a week or so. That is unless he’s definitely returning to Cleveland.
I’d bet Gar Paxdorf will at least know if they’re completely wasting their time in pursuing someone, but I don’t think that’ll be the case with anyone (unless, again, they’re just re-signing with their current teams).
I do get what you mean about perhaps Bosh being the guy you make the top priority and him responding to that. But this is a big deal, why would he jump at the first suitor either? The fact that there’s so many such suitors means it could be a different type of year.
Plus, after this season, don’t we have to at least try to sign LeBron?
It’s a process. We’re good at those!
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 16, 2010 8:29 PM CDT reply actions
I think the other thing to consider is working out sign-and-trades with current teams to get the players max money.
Toronto could hold that over Bosh’s head, saying, "Chicago is only offering us a second-round pick, the Clippers are offering us their first round pick and $3 million. Miami is offering us their first round pick and Daequan Cook. (whatever, I’m not willing to look up the best possible scenarios). If you want to sacrifice $30 million to be in Chicago, go ahead, a 2nd-round pick isn’t really “something” to us compared to losing you for nothing. If, on the other hand, you want 6 years, find a better deal."
In the past 10 years, just four team owners have not paid a luxury tax and are not on pace to pay one this year: Donald Sterling, Jerry Reinsdorf, Chris Cohen (Golden State), Bob Johnson (Charlotte).
Two owners’ teams averaged an operating income of over +$10 million per year while their teams have lost over 60% of their games: Donald Sterling and Jerry Reinsdorf.
they would get the trade exception
plus our 2019 second round pick (since we traded the rest)
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 16, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
The sign and trade component could certainly add something
But, will teams really want to circumvent the FAs to make these offers? Isn’t that just more likely to piss the FA off and encourage him completely rule out that team? Free agency in sports was fought for as much as for the money as for the players having a say in where they play.
It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.
George Washington
Though I could see a scenario of Bosh telling Toronto
“I like Chicago and Miami, just get me my $30M and work out the best deal for you”
It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.
George Washington
There is no way these guys sign immediately...
Obviously you have the Clippers and Bulls ready to offer team shaping opportunities to Bron, Wade waiting to see if the Heat can get something interesting, Bosh getting to weigh his options in general, the time it takes the Knicks to add preliminary pieces. I think anyone expecting everything to fold out in the first day is crazy.
Despite this, the Bulls should identify one player and go after him hard on day one; my vote for that player is Bosh.
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by Super-Structure on Mar 16, 2010 11:12 PM CDT reply actions
No...
They are signing immediately…it does not make any sense for them to weigh their options, as their options become limited as soon as someone else signs…the big three will sign on the first day they are eligible (July 8th I believe)…some of the second tier guys may not sign immediately, but only because they will be the consolation prizes of teams with cap space (Boozer, Lee, Johnson, Gay, Scola) and the third tier guys will catch on where they can…(Manu, Ray Allen, Nate Robinson, and the Ilk…)
Thomas, Miller, Salmons, James, Pargo, Gray, MLE, and (there is no LLE thanks to the Pargo signing) will not be here with a Max Free Agent...don't get too attached.
by Dionysus2.0 on Mar 16, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
at no point in the process will Bosh, James or Wade
be limited in their options. I can forsee a scenario where guys sign early (James stays in Cleveland or goes directly to NY, Bosh joins Wade in Miami, etc.). But I could also see Wade refusing to sign until Miami secures another big. Or James milking this thing for all its worth and visiting NY, Chicago, Miami, LA. So… its all just guessing.
by Basketball Smurf on Mar 17, 2010 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
right, I certainly see LeBron doing a nationwide barnstorming tour
a dance in each arena.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Mar 17, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Regardless of whether these guys wait or sign up immediately, the Bulls ought to be on Lebron's front porch knocking at 11:59
Actually, Jerry Reinsdorf and John Paxson should be there. Along with a tech guy with a video phone and a laptop to conference in Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade, or whomever the hell Lebron wants to teleconference in.
by Sports2 on Mar 17, 2010 2:46 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
No one is coming to Chicago!!!!
Nobody is coming to play for the Bulls but the players that are already signed with them. The Bulls have no blueprint, no direction, no philosophy on offense or defense, and no real head coach! What superstar will sacrifice coming to Chicago to play for a team that has no idea on how to win a championship, let alone; how to win period!!!! Money is no longer a factor, nor is location. Players want to be associated with winning, everything else is secondary!
not like peppers, it doesn't work
I agree that our main targets we should be there a 12:01 July 1st. On the other hand, as an organization we have done this before. Remember in 2000 when T-Mac was a free agent? The Bulls had Benny the Bull, Luv-a-bulls, 100’s of fans and staff meet him at O’Hare and what did it get us in the end? Ron Mercer…. We do have to court these guys, we have to take a chance. In the end, it won’t matter how much we parade them around. There are two things these guys want… Money most importantly and then winning. I have to say, it might be 70-30 money. With this though, I still say try. It might be silly, but I too would be at O’Hare waiting and cheering even if I knew it was a long shot.
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