The last days of Tyrus?

young guys learn from mistakes, and how can he develop confidence if everytime he makes mistakes he is taken out immediately this is just plain sad.

This is a sad situation. I love when Tyrus is able to impact the game with his blocks and watch the subsequent teams altering their shots fearing Tyrus. We see this and Tyrus not playing to his potential breaks your heart.

Vinny has become a scapegoat for every Bulls’ problem. My assessment from what I read is Vinny wants Tyrus to succeed. No other team wants him or he would have been traded by now. 3 coaches have tried and given up on him. My conclusion – Tyrus must be impossible to deal with. I do not know what the problem is but clearly it is not just Vinny, Skiles and the Boylan. Tyrus please turn the light on!!!

And I must admit I am one of those fans that once blamed Vinny for Tyrus horrible performance. But its not Vinnys fault and I realized after watching Tyrus closely when he is on the court.
1. He still doesnt hustle down court (a problem Skiles had with him) he is normally the last guy down and you only catch him sprinting if he sees opportunity for a big play (for himself)
2. His B-Ball IQ is the death of him. He still doesnt look like he knows where to go on offense. Mostly standing around the perimeter waiting to take that damn 20 footer. Which he finally realized to stop taking.

I always rooted for Tyrus and I think its mainly because deep down inside I knew Pax screwed up when he traded Lamarcus Aldridge for Tyrus. I didnt want that pick to go to a waste so I rooted hard for Tyrus. But lets all face it. That was a horrible trade. Just imagine if we had Lamarcus next to Noah…INCREDIBLE it would have been.

Until Tyrus realize that he need the bring the energy he brought when he came back from injury on every play. He will never be, and will eventually be the next Stromile Swift.

And he is an inconsistent head-case. He is NOT the only one at fault but he deserves half of the blame. I mean there have been some players that blossom under dumbasses like VDN. He’s been here for 4 years and hasn’t greatly improved and STILL makes the same rookie (retarded) mistakes.

I put some blame on the Org but still after 4 years and hasn’t produced consistently out of a top 5 pick? He has to get half of the blame.

We would be a fun team to watch

and all of Bulls nation were patting their backs for fleecing Isiah with 2 lotto picks? That fleecing just turned into

Curry = Noah & ______.

Noah’s having a great season but a semi-competent front office with a semi-competent coaching staff would have better capitalized on that fleecing.

that Tyrus is a complete asshole. I tend to side with the players in all cases, but Noah had issues with management and has developed into an excellent player; Deng, Hinrich and Gordon, all of whom were high picks have been successful with the Bulls at different times. There is a point when we have to question Tyrus’ drive and personal responsibility. His ineptitude and nonchalance on the court—at moments—has been undeniable.

I don’t feel as if this current regime of The Organization has been bad at developing players. Both Del Negro and Skiles have had issues with Tyrus; there is clearly some evidence that this is more than some money saving scheme. Obviously this degrades his trade value, and obviously it doesn’t help them win games to lose another bench player. These sorts of refutations of these possibilities follow a disjointed and specious logic.

Sometimes we make things more difficult than they have to be.

You only have to ask yourself this question:

Flaws and all, is there someone on this team that should get more minutes than TT at the PF?

You know what…..I’ll go one step further, are there five guys on this team that should get more minutes than TT? If you think so, you need to name them and state why. If you can’t, then TT should start and get at least 30 minutes a night…..period.

And those blocks/steals/monster dunks you see in only minimal minutes will happen more frequently given more said minutes.

I’m gonna get plenty pissed.

The pre-Noah picks did well against the Heat. That helped gloss over a few gross errors in the management of the team.
Noah’s emergence and Rose being Rose makes management look slightly more shiny.

All this just hides how badly run this organization has been since MJ left.

added this:

It’s just a bad situation all-around, Tyrus is clearly acting petulant here, and at a bad time. But no doubt the Org. has failed in developing him (heck, they hired and kept VDN), and won’t keep him anyway. So I can also get why Tyrus himself feels little to lose. Clearly this isn’t the way to handle things, but if Tyrus made sense he probably wouldn’t need Org. help. This was a predictably strained year for Thomas and the Bulls (and VDN in particular) , and this may have been the final blowup or just another instance of a slow demise in the relationship.

I do blame Tyrus for this, it’s likely he’s just a huge asshole, and even if you work for an incompetent: it’s one thing for us to blow up at VDN, and it’s another for a player to do it. Just can’t do that.

But it was obviously a deck stacked against him going into the season. No extension, they draft two potential replacements, and a coach who already didn’t like him to look for the first opportunity to keep from playing him. I get why he was fed up, but it shows his immaturity that he acted out on it this way.

And not sure what they could’ve done. You want to trade someone before their value is rock-bottom, but they’ve been trying to trade him.

And the Bulls can’t develop players is a bit overblown. They can’ t develop projects. They have to draft great kids from winning programs who are self-motivated and self-taught. That means the high-floor, low-ceiling output of the entire decade, except for the Rose lottery win, as the stars have that attitude AND the superlative talent.